While you're waiting, feel free to check out a nightly, it'll give you a good idea what's instore for.8, and will be years, well, months at least, more stable than.7:
No kidding, what time zone are you in Michael? This is lame, I'm used to the Slashdot with real stories without content, not these lame attempts at humor without content. Please stop it posthaste.
Is anyone else bothered that the desktop enviroment is named "Sun's Java Desktop System"? Why did they do that? From what I've seen/read about the desktop, it's Gnome, or a modified version of it, that has nothing more to do with Java than any other *nix desktop, right? Are they trying to pass Java off as a generic desktop name? When I see it I think if a *shudder* desktop running pure java! Would somebody please think about the refresh rates!
uhhh....ok, now I'm *starting* to feel like an idiot. again, I've never done emerge -k, but I thought it was possible. from everything that *I* can see, all of the URLs in my MIRRORS list, none of them have anything useful in their../grp directories!
So I think I'm coming to the conclusion that you already have! Sorry for any confusion, anyone out there know what's up with this? I'm starting to think *you* have to compile the src, then stick it on a server in some dir (named grp I guess) and then point your make.conf to it. Sounds like it's quicker to just install from source;)
current running on 3 boxes at home, make compiles fun, since the other machines get to help out. here at work it's another story, beefy Linux boxes in the server room help me out when I need to do emerges for my workstation or server. it's all good fun.
cool, I've never used the feature, but have read about it, and it sounds like it'd be a help; acting much more like apt-get (without as much variety of course). From my/etc/make.conf file:
Portage uses PORTAGE_BINHOST to specify mirrors for prebuilt-binary packages. # The list is a single extry specifying the full address of the directory # serving the tbz2's for your system. Running emerge with either '--getbinpkg' # or '--getbinpkgonly' will cause portage to retrieve the metadata from all# packages in the directory specified, and use that data to determine what will # be downloaded and merged. '-g' or '-gK' are the recommend parameters. Please # consult the man pages and 'emerge --help' for more information. #PORTAGE_BINHOST="ftp://login:pass@g rp.mirror.site/pub/grp/i686/athlon-xp/" #PORTAGE_BINHOST="http: //grp.mirror.site/gentoogrp/1.4/i686/athlon-xp/"
So change the../athlon-xp to your arch and give it a go. Hope that helps.
I think it's still too risky. think about it, someone going up that's not an astro flowing around accidentally kicking some switch on a panel breaking something. I know it's prob not *that* unsecure, but still, the point is the ISS is supposed to be this great nation-free project, but the Russian's are trying to milk it for some rubles by gambling that this "tourist" won't break anything.
call me pariod it you wish, but the stakes are too high for this.
Gentoo provides ebuilds, the Gentoo packages if you like. But when you want to install such an ebuild, you can choose between building the package and using a prebuilt package. But what are the advantages/disadvantages of both approaches, and can they be used next to each other?
As you probably have guessed, building packages takes a lot of time (especially if you have little resources or want to build big packages, such as KDE, OpenOffice.org, etc.). By building the package, you can use the USE setting to tweak the package to your system. Of course, you can also define high optimization options (in the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS variables) to compile the package with.
Using prebuilt packages improves the installation time (as no more compilation is needed), but you will lose the advantages of the USE setting and the CFLAGS & CXXFLAGS variables.
As previously stated, prebuilt packages are stored in the/usr/portage/packages/All directory, while the source code of the packages is placed in/usr/portage/distfiles. If you have finished installing a package you can remove the package or source code from the respective directory. However, you might want to keep the package/source code of the latest version, just in case you want to reinstall the package (so you don't have to redownload it)....
Installing Prebuilt Packages
When you want to install a prebuilt package, you should use the --usepkg option (-k in short). This will use the binary package available in/usr/portage/packages/All if the package and the version of the application you want to install match.
Code Listing 18: Installing a prebuilt package for gnumeric
# emerge --usepkg gnumeric
If you want to use the binary package, even if the versions don't match, use --usepkgonly (-K in short).
Code Listing 19: Installing the prebuilt package for gnumeric
# emerge --usepkgonly gnumeric
If you don't have the prebuilt package on your system yet, you can have emerge download it from a mirror, defined in the PORTAGE_BINHOST variable declared in/etc/make.conf.
To download the binary package in case this package doesn't exist on your system already, use --getbinpkg (-g in short):
Code Listing 20: Downloading and installing a prebuilt package for gnumeric
# emerge --getbinpkg gnumeric
This will download the package and the package-related information for you and install it on your system, together with the dependencies.
What site do you have to point to in order to download the binary packages for gentoo?
You don't, you only need to use the -k (or --usepkg) option with emerge. I actually prefer the way it's done in *BSD, but portage is based on ports, so I can't complain too much; it's a nice way to do things.;)
We recommend Red Hat Fedora, Mandrake Linux or SUSE for the first time switchers. These three distributions are easy to install, have good hardware compatibility and come with boatloads of software. As you gain Linux experience, you can try more difficult distributions such as Debian or Gentoo.
...and when you're not using Gentoo, feel free to dis it and spread FUD! [sarcasm]
I used to skip classes in college to play Smash TV with a friend. I got the classic arcade collection last month that has Robotron, Smash TV and other classics (the GameCube controller is great on Defender). I always thought that if you had hand eye co-ordination for Robotron or Defender, you'd have skills to do something; be it driving, construction, race car driver, something.
Ok, that's all I have, I'm still trying to get over the bike girl's nuke pics.
I assume TechTV is just one of those stations you get on Satellite, cause it doesn't come on basic cable (I don't have 'digital' cable cause I don't see the need for it).
I found this book to be much more interesting than the parent poster. It reveals far more about XP's refactoring than I knew about. Also, yep, the end ranking never matters, it's how long it's in the four to five range that counts; that's when you get replies and such. it's silly, but fun to do at work.
Slashdot Mirror
While you're waiting, feel free to check out a nightly, it'll give you a good idea what's instore for .8, and will be years, well, months at least, more stable than .7:
h tly/latest/
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/camino/nig
CB
"Mars has recently sought significant quantities of urainum, from Africa."
blech
CB
must, not reload slashdot again today! come on April 2nd!
CVBS
you must be new here. AF gets worse every year around here.
CB
Worst April Fools Day, EVER!
CB
No kidding, what time zone are you in Michael? This is lame, I'm used to the Slashdot with real stories without content, not these lame attempts at humor without content. Please stop it posthaste.
CBab
Is anyone else bothered that the desktop enviroment is named "Sun's Java Desktop System"? Why did they do that? From what I've seen/read about the desktop, it's Gnome, or a modified version of it, that has nothing more to do with Java than any other *nix desktop, right? Are they trying to pass Java off as a generic desktop name? When I see it I think if a *shudder* desktop running pure java! Would somebody please think about the refresh rates!
CB
uhhh....ok, now I'm *starting* to feel like an idiot. again, I've never done emerge -k, but I thought it was possible. from everything that *I* can see, all of the URLs in my MIRRORS list, none of them have anything useful in their ../grp directories!
;)
So I think I'm coming to the conclusion that you already have! Sorry for any confusion, anyone out there know what's up with this? I'm starting to think *you* have to compile the src, then stick it on a server in some dir (named grp I guess) and then point your make.conf to it. Sounds like it's quicker to just install from source
CB
current running on 3 boxes at home, make compiles fun, since the other machines get to help out. here at work it's another story, beefy Linux boxes in the server room help me out when I need to do emerges for my workstation or server. it's all good fun.
CB
# The list is a single extry specifying the full address of the directory
# serving the tbz2's for your system. Running emerge with either '--getbinpkg'
# or '--getbinpkgonly' will cause portage to retrieve the metadata from all# packages in the directory specified, and use that data to determine what will
# be downloaded and merged. '-g' or '-gK' are the recommend parameters. Please
# consult the man pages and 'emerge --help' for more information.
#PORTAGE_BINHOST="ftp://login:pass@
#PORTAGE_BINHOST="http
So change the
CB
I think it's still too risky. think about it, someone going up that's not an astro flowing around accidentally kicking some switch on a panel breaking something. I know it's prob not *that* unsecure, but still, the point is the ISS is supposed to be this great nation-free project, but the Russian's are trying to milk it for some rubles by gambling that this "tourist" won't break anything.
call me pariod it you wish, but the stakes are too high for this.
CVb
...unless you're referring to the limitted selection on the gentoo cd's, then no, you can't use binary packages unless you've pre-built them yourself.
l ?part=2&chap=2#doc_chap3 :
/usr/portage/packages/All directory, while the source code of the packages is placed in /usr/portage/distfiles. If you have finished installing a package you can remove the package or source code from the respective directory. However, you might want to keep the package/source code of the latest version, just in case you want to reinstall the package (so you don't have to redownload it). ...
/usr/portage/packages/All if the package and the version of the application you want to install match.
/etc/make.conf.
1) if your mirror doesn't have binaries, add one that does to PORTAGE_BINHOST (check with #gentoo or gentoo forums for urls)
2) emerge -k foo that'll emerge the binary package of foo.
more info from Gentoo's FAQ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook.xm
2.c. Maintaining Software
Building or Prebuilt?
Gentoo provides ebuilds, the Gentoo packages if you like. But when you want to install such an ebuild, you can choose between building the package and using a prebuilt package. But what are the advantages/disadvantages of both approaches, and can they be used next to each other?
As you probably have guessed, building packages takes a lot of time (especially if you have little resources or want to build big packages, such as KDE, OpenOffice.org, etc.). By building the package, you can use the USE setting to tweak the package to your system. Of course, you can also define high optimization options (in the CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS variables) to compile the package with.
Using prebuilt packages improves the installation time (as no more compilation is needed), but you will lose the advantages of the USE setting and the CFLAGS & CXXFLAGS variables.
As previously stated, prebuilt packages are stored in the
Installing Prebuilt Packages
When you want to install a prebuilt package, you should use the --usepkg option (-k in short). This will use the binary package available in
Code Listing 18: Installing a prebuilt package for gnumeric
# emerge --usepkg gnumeric
If you want to use the binary package, even if the versions don't match, use --usepkgonly (-K in short).
Code Listing 19: Installing the prebuilt package for gnumeric
# emerge --usepkgonly gnumeric
If you don't have the prebuilt package on your system yet, you can have emerge download it from a mirror, defined in the PORTAGE_BINHOST variable declared in
To download the binary package in case this package doesn't exist on your system already, use --getbinpkg (-g in short):
Code Listing 20: Downloading and installing a prebuilt package for gnumeric
# emerge --getbinpkg gnumeric
This will download the package and the package-related information for you and install it on your system, together with the dependencies.
CB
What site do you have to point to in order to download the binary packages for gentoo?
;)
You don't, you only need to use the -k (or --usepkg) option with emerge. I actually prefer the way it's done in *BSD, but portage is based on ports, so I can't complain too much; it's a nice way to do things.
CVsda
- emerge -k (packagename)
This must be pointed out before the normal Gentoo FUD starts getting thrown around. Also, before anyone slams Gentoo, they should read and learn: Dispelling the myths of Gentoo Linux, an honest reviewCvswdsf
seriously, read this, and learn before you talk about things you don't understand Dispelling the myths of Gentoo Linux, an honest review
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as was mine :) thanks for not taking things too seriously. plus, I now have Smash TV for my Gamecube, and damn if that controller isn't perfect for it!
also, if you've ever read fark.com you'd see they use 'still no cure for cancer' all the time, in a funny way as I was trying to above.
regards
cvxs
Ahh a classic troll... ...that you replied to ;)
Cvsdf
The " joke? I don't get it.
you must be new here, but if you must know, the joke is in your hands.
regards,
cvs
you must be new here, to this country we call the US that is.
VCB
still no cure for cancer.
seriously, wouldn't time be better spent on other, more worthwhile projects than building a computer in a box?
CB
Boy, you really need to get out more.
you must be new here.
I used to skip classes in college to play Smash TV with a friend. I got the classic arcade collection last month that has Robotron, Smash TV and other classics (the GameCube controller is great on Defender). I always thought that if you had hand eye co-ordination for Robotron or Defender, you'd have skills to do something; be it driving, construction, race car driver, something.
Ok, that's all I have, I'm still trying to get over the bike girl's nuke pics.
CVBD
I assume TechTV is just one of those stations you get on Satellite, cause it doesn't come on basic cable (I don't have 'digital' cable cause I don't see the need for it).
What do they cover on TechTV? Is it worthwhile?
CVS
I found this book to be much more interesting than the parent poster. It reveals far more about XP's refactoring than I knew about. Also, yep, the end ranking never matters, it's how long it's in the four to five range that counts; that's when you get replies and such. it's silly, but fun to do at work.
so don't just go by one review.
CB
I have this book... (Score:4, Insightful)
haha!