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Comcast Signs Deal To Acquire TechTV

FPCat writes "Comcast has purchased TechTV. They plan to merge the station with G4. Maybe they'll stop showing Robot Wars and put some decent shows on instead. In either case, with Leo Laporte no longer hosting The Screen Savers, I expect big changes on the station..." (Of course, at this point they've only agreed to buy.)

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  1. he hosted today? by dcstimm · · Score: 1, Informative

    Leo is still hosting, he hosted today

    1. Re:he hosted today? by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When they stop people from hosting, they let them finish everything they have planned first -- they just don't yank them off air. His time will probably be up in a few days to a week.

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    2. Re:he hosted today? by forand · · Score: 4, Informative

      Did you read the link in the blurb? Oh yeah this is /. The link says that Leo wanted to leave, not that he was getting dumped.

      However his blog doesn't say anything about this as far as I saw in my short viewing so I don't even know if the link in the blurb has it right.

    3. Re:he hosted today? by dubdays · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It will really be a shame when he's no longer hosting TSS. I remember when he and Kate were the hosts, and seriously, it was absolutly the best show on the air. It's sad, but a lot of on-air geeks really lack any real personality whatsoever. Not Leo. He is funny, interesting, insightful (you know, all the +1 words). He's the reason I began watching the show almost 6 years ago, and his leaving is the reason I'll watch it no longer. Besides, everyone else on that show is annoying as hell!

      He is, in reality, why I'm an IT manager today

      We love ya Leo!!!

    4. Re:he hosted today? by goatan · · Score: 1
      they just don't yank them off air.

      They so should it would be funny, imagaine the host doing his thing. Then the handle of a walking stick comes on from the side, hooks around the hosts neck and then, yank of they go. Not saying anyone deserves it but it would be amusing.

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    5. Re:he hosted today? by maxbang · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm with ya, bud. Leo 'n' Kate, then Kate's emigre to that game show (jeez - I can't even remember what it was called before X-play). The current host set is odd, at best. I haven't watched it in over a year because they're just not the same. It was funny as hell when Woz and Mitnick hosted - stuttering, stammering, hamfisting their way through 90 minutes of fun TV time. The most annoying to me is that Kevin Rose dude. While I admire his enthusiasm for, and advocacy of, Linux and open source, he seems to be trying a little hard to be geeky (man, I wish that was true in high school ;) I think he thinks he's 1337 h@x0r or something. One of his "Dark Tips": Kazaa Lite. WTF? I wish I could stick it to the man like that.

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    6. Re:he hosted today? by maxbang · · Score: 1

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    7. Re:he hosted today? by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While Leo might be interesting for the color he adds to the show, I have to admit that I cringe when he tries to offer help on any really technical problem. Usually he bumbles around a little bit while Patrick looks something up on the web, then Patrick can give the caller some ideas.

      Contrast that with Patrick/Kevin. In this case, Kevin starts out by immediately giving some useful advice, then Patrick chimes in with advice of his own and the websites he just found. All in all, it's better advice to the callers.

      My wife has stopped watching TSS due to Leo. With luck she'll start again. I just hope that they don't bump the 11:00 CST rerun of the show; that is the time slot I always catch.

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    8. Re:he hosted today? by markhb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shatner, your agent called, something about a margarine commercial.

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    9. Re:he hosted today? by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 1

      This is a little off topic, but does anybody know whatever happened to Stuart (Chefiet?) and that PBS show "The Computer Chronicles"? I used to watch it on lazy sunday afternoons when I was little and the 486 was the leading edge of tech. It's responsible for stoking most of my interest in computers but I can never find anything about it online. The theme music reverberates in my skull to this very moment though... yeah... good times. good times.

    10. Re:he hosted today? by meshmar · · Score: 1

      Leo will be hosting CFH (Call for Help) only. CFH will be 'live-to-tape' with all five weekly shows shot on Monday and Wednesday. The taped shows will shown at 6pm est, with 'Encore' repeats twice the next day starting April 5th. Netcammers will be accepted via e-mail only. Leo will occasionally appear in TSS (The Screensavers) spots.

    11. Re:he hosted today? by esswedl · · Score: 3, Funny

      jeez - I can't even remember what it was called before X-play

      Extended Play. I really enjoyed the promo that had Adam Sessler punching and dodging in a side-scroller, the camera pulling back to reveal Kate at the joystick of a cabinet.

    12. Re:he hosted today? by PedanticSpellingTrol · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wow, I guess I forgot to try googling with quotation marks.. archive.org has every episode, in case any other fans of the show are reading this. I have splooged myself.

    13. Re:he hosted today? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

      Leo is still hosting, he hosted today

      This is his farewell tour as host of TSS. He'll host tonight, and four episodes next week. (Friday has been a scheduded rerun day for a while now.)

      This actually is of Leo's own doing. He actually doesn't want to host TSS anymore, he'd rather be hosting Call For Help. His new work schedule, which starts the week after next, calls for him to only be at the studio two days a week, during which he'll record five episodes of Call For Help and contribute some segments to TSS. On the remaining three weekdays, he'll work from home preparing research for both his TechTV duties and also for his KFI radio show which he does live based out of a barn-turned-radio-studio on his own property.

      So, this really is the end of a overbooked 7-day-workweek schedule he's been on for about the last six months. He's basically going into a semi-retirement, while also assuring that he'll still be employed even if he's no longer with TechTV.

    14. Re:he hosted today? by maxbang · · Score: 1

      ha! wonderful! mod up +5 informative! I can't believe I forgot that graphic. It must be all this VB I've been examining for the past four hours...

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    15. Re:he hosted today? by bhsoul1 · · Score: 1

      Before that it was called Gamespot, although I don't remember if it was hosted by the same people.

    16. Re:he hosted today? by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Leo most certainly wanted a reduced broadcast schedule from TechTV. Presently, the man is hosting 10 hours a week of live TV, and then doing 6 hours a week of live radio on his weekends, in addition to his book-writing projects. He needed a break...

    17. Re:he hosted today? by IWorkForMorons · · Score: 1

      Heheh...I've watched that show a total of twice. And the second time I watched it, I was just flipping around and saw this promo for a segment all about the "dark side of the internet", or something stupid like that. I got a little excited, thinking they were going to show off Stile Project or something like that. OK, maybe not something as gross as Stile, but you get the idea. Then the segment comes up, and all they do is talk for 10 minutes about Kazaa Lite. They were talking about how they couldn't tell you where to download it, because they said they would get in trouble. Whatever. All they did was talk about the stupid little features that prevented "evil entities" (read: RIAA) from looking at your files. They even showed you how to...*GASP*...STOP SHARING FILES! That was the last time I watched that show. I don't even turn it to TechTV now, unless I'm bored and Robot Wars it on...

    18. Re:he hosted today? by adler187 · · Score: 1

      Actually it was called GamespotTV which is why they had to change the name in the first place since after the ZiffDavis split and ZDTV was sold to Paul Allen, all they had to change their name because Gamespot was owned by ZDnet and not TechTV.

    19. Re:he hosted today? by mozzis · · Score: 1

      Personally, I can't stand the man. His interview technique is to interrupt the guest whenever they are about to make a point or say anything interesting, he is embarrasingly sexist, and his self-promotion is to cringe for.

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    20. Re:he hosted today? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      He is, in reality, why I'm an IT manager today (my emphasis)
      Yep. Meanwhile, we real techies will continue to hate him.
    21. Re:he hosted today? by TechDock · · Score: 1

      You can find Computer Chronicle espisodes at the Internet Archive

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    22. Re:he hosted today? by bryanthompson · · Score: 1

      I wonder just how many people quit watching TSS because of him? I know my brother, dad, and I all quit watching (except when it's kevin and pat) because leo's such a douche. I like the way Pat and Kevin just get to the solution and don't dumb everything down to a 2nd grade level.

    23. Re:he hosted today? by jaylw2000 · · Score: 1

      I like Leo when he's being helpful, but he wastes too much time with his "schtick" (he apparently thinks he's hilarious--I disagree. I especially cringe at his childish sexual innuendos)

      Kevin is terrific. Hopefully he and Patrick will maximize the helpful content and minimize the non-tech nonsense. (No more grade B actors publicizing their crappy movies at studio junkets...)

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    24. Re:he hosted today? by Araxen · · Score: 1

      I agree some of the best programming on cable was on TechTV back in it's early years. TSS, COH, and the Dvorak show I can't remember the name off hand.

      TSS and COH are still pretty good just not as good as they were back in the day. I will miss Leo and wish him well. I just hope I don't have to put up with that script kiddie Kevin as host.

    25. Re:he hosted today? by Araxen · · Score: 1

      I cenrtainly hope I don't have to see more of "Script Kiddie" Kevin because Leo is leaving. Kevin is more annoying than Leo is.

      They need to make Yoshi the host.

    26. Re:he hosted today? by 1arkhaine · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      With the Frustration game, I don't know if you have anything to do with it or if you just enjoy it, but...It is too US-centric for me to play. According to the rules, the first X questions are easy and 'anyone should be able to get them', then the questions actually get interesting and difficult. That's fantastic, except for the fact that I have no idea about American sports team name, and they seem to be the primary focus of the earlier questions. Nor do I know US state abbreviations, I can guess based on the initials of the state, but...

      So anyway, my point is that if a non-US person starts taking this test, your results are going to get skewed, and non-US people aren't going to enjoy it at all. I was intrigued by the idea, but disappointed with the reality.

    27. Re:he hosted today? by scupper · · Score: 3, Informative
      Leo's statements in his blog about "prudent to diversify" and this below from the G4 FAQ seem to imply Leo is bracing for the boot. Notice the absence of "Call For Help" from among the shows G4 has listed will be programmed from TechTV, the only show which Leo will be hosting full time w/ TechTV pending the approval of the Comcast Deal.

      G4 FAQ: Programming http://g4tv.com/techtvmerger/
      Q: What will a typical programming day look like?
      A: The merged network will be the nation's premier 24/7 television network all about video games, technology and the gamer lifestyle. The G4 programming day will showcase many existing G4 and TechTV series such as G4's ICONS; PULSE; JUDGMENT DAY; PLAYERS, and CHEAT! as well as TechTV's ANIME UNLEASHED; X-PLAY; SCREEN SAVERS; FRESH GEAR; and ROBOT WARS.G4 will also premiere new original programming which will be announced at a later date.
    28. Re:he hosted today? by hoc2ieman · · Score: 1

      leo was a great tech tv icon, and it will be a shame that he will be gone. if g4 is gonna be a gaming station, they should get kate b back for extended play b/c x-play cant even touch the greatness of the sessler and kate's old classic tech tv show.

    29. Re:he hosted today? by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Yes, but we know that is not an exhasutive list of combined productions because they are promising more than 800 episodes per year of at least 20 original shows in other materials. That FAQ only names 10 titles, so there are at least 10 others who aren't named yet.

    30. Re:he hosted today? by Angry+Pixie · · Score: 1

      He also commutes something like 2 hours a day. That puts a lot of strain on one's life and health.

    31. Re:he hosted today? by scupper · · Score: 1

      I hope they continue to program Call For Help with him as a host. Leo is a good tech journalist/author/media personality, and not a Redmond borg, with a Microsoft EULA. If they dump him, I don't think he'll have any problem getting a tech column syndicated in major newspapers/magazines, and line up more TV and Radio opportunities.

  2. Heh. by outZider · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, because as we all know, Comcast means Quality.

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    1. Re:Heh. by t0qer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, because as we all know, Comcast means Quality.

      I know you're trying to kid around about comcast, but despite all the horror stories i've heard about their cable modem offerings, i've had nothing but "good service" from them.

      I used to have pacbell DSL. Routinely I would come home to find that stupid green light blinking while the damn thing tried to keep a connection. Sometimes it would go out for 3 or 4 days, any you would think pacbell would have prorated my bill due to service disruptions, never happened. Everytime I would call them I could never get a human without going through some hellish voicemail maze that some sado masochist set up.

      Comcast on the other hand, i've only experienced maybe 1 or 2 short outages that would last no longer than a few seconds at the most. On top of that they bumped everyone up to 3mbps now.

      Also, pacbell techs LIE. I was setting up a mandrake MNF vpn to one of my customers remote offices. Supposidly they had been set up on static IP's, and the pacbell tech that set it up charged them for that type of setup. After a few hours of trying to replace their linksys with the MNF and pings timing out, I discovered the truth by peeking inside the linksys... The tech had lied, there was no static IP's allocated to that line. Yet he charged them for it anyways.

      So even though you got a funny on that comment, it's the truth. Compared to pacbell (which may not really be "quality" to begin with) comcast is quality.

    2. Re:Heh. by outZider · · Score: 1

      Definitely kidding. I've had great service from them, and despite the horror stories I hear once in a while, I'd still rather have them than many of the other companies out there. The recent speed increases have been great, and considering the technology they have to work with, they're running a fine network.

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    3. Re:Heh. by Unoti · · Score: 1

      Agree wholeheartedly. For about 3 years I had DSL through a one provider after another that went belly up. About every month it would be down for 1-2 days. It's been rock solid since I've been on Comcast cable the last year or so, down only a time or two. And they silently handed me 8 DHCP addresses without complaint (only using one now, but that seemed awfully generous before I built a firewall).

    4. Re:Heh. by aldoman · · Score: 1

      Thats because your phone line is of poor quality to keep the DSL sync'ed.

      Considering comcast's cable has to probably go no more than 1/2 a mile to your local 'grey box' and it also runs on coax.

      DSL has to however run probably 3 miles through terrible quality copper pairs which may have streches of aluminium in them - it's a purely technical problem this.

      Also, with US DSL companies being flooded with crosstalk when they started it out (crosstalk occurs when people who are really too far away are still hooked up to the service and require huge amounts of power to keep sync, and therefore the signal starts to interfere with other copper pairs) and took whole exchanges down. Of course, British Telecom had to take this way too far and set ultra-low levels which they cut people off on. Ho-hum.

    5. Re:Heh. by Wampus+Aurelius · · Score: 1, Redundant

      I, for one, welcome our new Comcast overlords.

    6. Re:Heh. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      SBC has done the same thing as BT since acquiring pacific bell. Pacbell used to sell to 17,000 feet, now SBC sells to 14,500. However in this case it's because the FCC is fining the shit out of SBC when people have DSL downtime, so in order to improve service levels they have stopped selling out to "maximum" range. (I have friends at 17,500 feet who get their peak 1.5Mbps at all times, but they must be on a street with good copper.)

      OTOH Pacific Bell started and SBC is (slowly) continuing to use the newer two-part DSLAMs which have the signalling end on your corner and the rest of the hardware in the CO, so your local loop is much, much shorter and data is carried back to the CO on fiber. Of course, SBC cuts fiber all the time...

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    7. Re:Heh. by y0bhgu0d · · Score: 1

      i'm going to go ahead and give a nod to what aldoman said, and also this:

      they did not lie to you about static IP addresses, if they do it the way bellsouth does it. they assign you IP addresses, and you have to set the ip address yourself. if you just go with DHCP it will give you a nice random open IP.

      chill, and don't knock tech support folks. they deal with more shit than you would want to know, and people like you just make it worse. like the people that start off the conversation with "i'm an mcse so i know what the problem is" when in reality, the problem is that they don't know how to configure their unsupported linksys router to work.

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    8. Re:Heh. by t0qer · · Score: 1

      chill, and don't knock tech support folks.

      No, no and no. Pacbell is a bunch of lying cocksuckers.

      they deal with more shit than you would want to know

      Uhhm, lets see here, i've worked support for the ricochet wireless modem, i've been an IT networking guy for 10 years... So what is it you think I don't know about the business? That management says "Let's use vantive" because someone else they think is smart said "lets use vantive?" Or that the girl who gives the best head gets the promotions? Or how about %90 of tech support is just reading a script and has no real world working knowledge of the product they're supporting?

      And yes, the tech lied. He's a lying scumbag plain and simple. The router was set to PPPOE and everytime I refreshed the connection the IP on the wan side would be completely different. If they didn't have the "business DSL" service, he should have told them before charging them for a "business DSL" setup.

      Maybe we deserve to have all these call centers outsourced to india. Most of the call centers I worked at you were lucky if you could find someone that knew how to tie their shoes, let alone walk a customer through something over the phone.

  3. TechTV should be on regular cable. by emo+boy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There. I've said my piece.

    1. Re:TechTV should be on regular cable. by macgyvr64 · · Score: 1

      Darn right! I'm not buying satellite just for TechTV :-P

  4. Well this brings about a few good changes by chadamir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1) I will finally have techtv again on comcast 2) Techtv will have more funding which will provide for better programming. I guess when you can't buy disney the only thing left to do is buy techtv. It's a sad world we live in when megaconglomerates can't get everything theey want

    1. Re:Well this brings about a few good changes by DonGar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Better programming.....

      That may mean that they pull Anime Unleashed for something with a more global appear. That would kill of 90% of the content I find interesting on all of DirecTV.

      Of course, maybe they will fix the guide information so that individual shows are listed based on the series they belong to, not just 'Anime Unleashed'. My TiVo will be much happier then.

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    2. Re:Well this brings about a few good changes by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

      You may be speaking too soon; it is entirely probable ComCast will only make it available on Digital Cable (which I absolutely refuse to sign up for.) As far as I can tell the only two things that has happened since ComCast gobbled up AT&T Cable in my area has been that 1) My rate went up (again,) and this is for only Basic Cable and Extended Basic. 2) I got less channels (that I want) than when AT&T was running my local cable.

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    3. Re:Well this brings about a few good changes by Dravik · · Score: 1

      I've had TechTV on comcast for the last couple years

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    4. Re:Well this brings about a few good changes by Unoti · · Score: 1

      The G4 channel is currently on Comcast's regular and digital cable both, at least in my area.

    5. Re:Well this brings about a few good changes by quecojones · · Score: 1

      I just hope this means we can get G4 on DirecTV now.

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  5. Are either any good? by thebosz · · Score: 1

    Having Basic Cable only, I've never seen either channel. Are either any good? What kind of shows do they have? Is it worth upgrading for these? Or is my broadband connection (hence the reason for the Cable, Basic Cable + Internet Just Internet) a better resource?

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    1. Re:Are either any good? by SteakandcheeseUm · · Score: 1

      TV rots your brain.

      I have both channels though.

    2. Re:Are either any good? by bhtooefr · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't even have cable, and I've seen TechTV a lot (by watching other people's DirectTV).

      It's pretty good. The Screen Savers is a general technology talk show, and Yoshi makes a bunch of sweet cases (especially Mini-ITX). Call for Help is a good guide if you use something other than Windows and you get bombarded by requests to fix computers because "you're smart with computers". X-Play is a decent game review show. Robot Wars can be very fun (robot carnage is awesome - just watch an episode or two). Future Fighting Machines is good if you're a military nut. They've got all sorts of shows on the making of or the meaning of movies and shows - they recently had a big one on LOTR to coincide with the release of ROTK. They also have some other good shows, but most (including Robot Wars and FFM) are simply rebroadcasts of BBC shows.

    3. Re:Are either any good? by pragma_x · · Score: 3, Informative

      My $0.02. TechTV is pretty decent, with "screensavers" possibly being the closest Slashdot will ever get to being on television. You can grab most of the highlights and show abstracts of the website and save yourself some cash. G4 ("the gamer's network" i guess) on the other hand is tolerable in doses, and are obviously still in the progress of building the brand up. They only run during the core hours of the day (infomercials latenights and early mornings), and re-run content in short intervals (less than a week in some cases) with no remorse. To their credit, they're pioneering a tv genre, so I have hopes that it'll get better in a few years. Merging the two seems unlikely, but combined they may wind up with enough quality programming to fill a whole day of scheduling.

  6. who has TechTV? by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I assume TechTV is just one of those stations you get on Satellite, cause it doesn't come on basic cable (I don't have 'digital' cable cause I don't see the need for it).

    What do they cover on TechTV? Is it worthwhile?

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    1. Re:who has TechTV? by Penguinisto · · Score: 1
      I get it on DirecTV, and the answer is, outside of the Anime fests, no. The Anime goodies make it the only reason I even bother, but that's just MHO.

      (Put it this way: If Slashdot had a "Short Bus" version, TechTV's "informative" broadcasts would definately qualify.)

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    2. Re:who has TechTV? by BlackLeader · · Score: 1

      It isn't just for satellite or digital cable: Comcast has carried it in my area on regular old cable for quite a few years now. I also don't see the need for digital cable. As for thq quality of the programming, I'm sure opinions will widely vary. It definitely isn't targeting itself at the sysadmins, but I've generally found most parts of it entertaining. The various shows that review video games, however (think the current one is called X-play) bring about a level of cheese in acting not usually seen outside daytime drama.

    3. Re:who has TechTV? by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Tech TV covers some interesting things, however, if you are an experienced 'net user you have probably seen everything they cover well in advance of when it actually airs. They even covered gray area things like , DVD copying ,password "recovery", etc., sometimes I just scan it to get a reminder about new gadgets and such . .To summarize sometimes it will bring info to you that you probably would have otherwise thought of, but forget to check on etc. Albeit not the extremely technical stuff.

      It can also be used as a quick reminder of the current HOT tech topics, personally, I forget alot of stuff that I am interested in because there is so much.

    4. Re:who has TechTV? by I+Love+this+Company! · · Score: 1

      TechTV has been part of Comcast basic cable in Detroit for at least the last five years. They cover things like hardware mods, behind the scenes at high-tech places (military, TV production, etc.), computing tips, tech/stock news, video games, and all that good stuff. On the live shows that Laporte hosts, they regularly reference Slashdot when covering the news. Quite a fun station for geeks.

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    5. Re:who has TechTV? by radish · · Score: 1

      I get it on digital cable. As for whether it's worth it, to me yes. It's not deep in any sense of the word and if you're a /. regular you're unlikely to learn anything new - but for tech related entertainment it's quite fun. Personally I like xplay (game reviews) because I like being able to see games running rather than just seeing still screenshots. Plus the presenters are quite amusing.

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    6. Re:who has TechTV? by SydShamino · · Score: 2, Informative

      The shows I catch are:

      The Screen Savers - some call in help, but mostly coverage of new computer technologies, product reviews, tips and advice on photoshop, cool tricks (liquid nitrogen ice cream). I have bits of a few of these recorded on the DVR, like the advice on which color printers produce works that don't fade after two years, or the bits on the fastest gaming laptops on the market.

      X Play - Game reviews, done in a pretty good way. If you can catch it, watch the episode (on earlier this week) where they review some of the worst games they've played. (The episode called: "'LifeLine,' Shaquille O'Neal, and Games You Should Never Buy", which will reair this weekend.) I had to watch it twice, because their review of Big Rigs was SOOO funny. I hope they don't touch this show when they merge with the other gaming network.

      Unscrewed - This one is a little stranger. They talk about the dark side of internet culture - discussion of porn sites, hacking tips, guys who speak Klingon, etc. Plus they show random video clips they find on the web. (This is where I first saw the badgerbadgerbadger clip before it was overused.) This content is NOT child safe.

      Anime Unleashed - After midnight central, for an hour, they show dubbed japanese anime. Boogie Pop Phantom, the series they've shown for the last two weeks, is absolutely horrible. The one they showed before that was pretty good, though. It's been a good way to sample anime when I can't get to sleep.

      Unfortunately, X Play is on at the same time as The Daily Show. Usually when John Stewart finishes his monologue and moves to the interview, I switch to TechTV and watch it until 1:00 when I go to bed.

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    7. Re:who has TechTV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get it off Satellite, but I think its available on cable, and the pizza pans like DirecTV.

      In general, I haven't watched TechTv that much lately because its programs are mostly aimed at beginners (for help and tips, although SS does show some new technology items of interest once in a while), and I don't care much for games. It's free off Satellite, so I do watch occasionally but, I wouldn't pay to get it.

    8. Re:who has TechTV? by Golias · · Score: 1

      Boogiepop Phantom is not too bad as long as you see the whole series in context. Any given single episode just seems like a random ghost story, but they actually all tie together in a Pulp Fiction-influenced non-linear sort of way. Not the best TV show I've ever seen, but far from the worst, and certainly a damn sight more interesting than Witch Hunter Robin.

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    9. Re:who has TechTV? by proj_2501 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think ALL of slashdot is the 'short bus' version.

    10. Re:who has TechTV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's why I think digital cable is worth it - program guide. Whenever I am at someone's house who doesn't have digital cable, it reminds me that it's really nice to be able to know what's currently on each channel and what will be coming on and also to see a brief review of the content. For the additional cost [which isn't that much if you're not a citizen of Israel], you get added service. Think about it Chuck.

    11. Re:who has TechTV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the same price you can get DISH (without CBS now), or DirecTV. Then you're not stuck with looking at the guide 1/2 hour at a time.

      I hate cable companies!!!!

    12. Re:who has TechTV? by rossdee · · Score: 1

      We get TechTV as part of the normal cable package (non-digital) from Charter here in west central MN. Its channel 73 (out of 74). Had it since Nov 2002 I think.

  7. Curious by SerpentBlade2100 · · Score: 1

    Anybody else have a weird feeling that Comcast is trying to buy out the entire world.... one step at a time they are acquiring important groups... then again i'm probably just paranoid. Any idea what their real intent is with all these purchuses?

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    1. Re:Curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Anybody else have a weird feeling that Comcast is trying to buy out the entire world....

      Why yes... we are....

      Anyways... how much for your house and family??

    2. Re:Curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See the post above yours: "...since Microsoft owns quite a chunk of Comcast..."

    3. Re:Curious by kiwimate · · Score: 1

      Anybody else have a weird feeling that Comcast is trying to buy out the entire world.... one step at a time they are acquiring important groups... then again i'm probably just paranoid. Any idea what their real intent is with all these purchuses?

      Off-hand, it's probably either:

      (i) They're hoping to find a company with such appalling customer service that it makes Comcast look good by comparison; or

      (ii) They're hoping to find a company with such sterling customer service that they can point that way and say, "see? Comcast does do customer service!".

      There again, it could just be that the Roberts family dictatorship are a bunch of greedy sods.

      By the way, there's something very scummy about the way voting rights work in Comcast. I forget the details, but it boils down to something like the CEO having massive voting rights and being able to effectively control any vote he likes.

    4. Re:Curious by MadBiologist · · Score: 1

      Ya know... the current owner of TechTV is Vulcan Ventures... which is owned by Paul Allen the Microsoft cofounder... Hmm....

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    5. Re:Curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      $50 for the wife. The kids are free.

  8. Another [probable] blow to objective journalism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...since Microsoft owns quite a chunk of Comcast, once this deal goes through you will have heard the last of any criticism of Microsoft or their products on TechTV.

  9. Show of the year by Hekatchu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Perhaps well soon see Super-X-killerBOT agaist Mickey Mouse Show.

  10. lineup by millahtime · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have some lineup show ideas.... 1) On Macs 2) Chicks of teck world 3) On open source 4) Hot chicks of the tech world in bathing suits 5) Cool new toys 6) Hot chicks of the tech world in bathing suits showing off cool new tech toys 7) A show of extreme dating meets tech folks (with hot chicks only) .....

    1. Re:lineup by BMonger · · Score: 5, Funny

      Paige Davis needs to host the new case mod show called...

      "Trading Cases".

    2. Re:lineup by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

      4) Hot chicks of the tech world in bathing suits

      What, like this ? (tho that might appeal to the old mainframer crowd ;0)

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    3. Re:lineup by willtsmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      OK, that was funny.

      But that would be interesting to see geeks swap their machines and individually upgrade them.

      Does GUI customization count as an upgrade. What about a new art of home case painting???? Workspaces and desks should be included.

      Perhaps it should be called "Trading (work) Stations".

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    4. Re:lineup by trahere · · Score: 1

      And me without mod points today! Way too funny!

    5. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get tech TV anymore because I only have digital bronze cable ($60/mo). TechTV only comes with the full-fledged $110/mo plan. Fuck that.

    6. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chicks of teck world

      That's just what we need. Another place for the moderately-attactive-but-nothing-special TechTV women to camwhore (*COUGH*Cat Scwartz*COUGH*) and to parade their insecurities even more than they already do.

    7. Re:lineup by jonfelder · · Score: 1

      That's actually not a bad idea. If I had mod points today, you would've got'm.

    8. Re:lineup by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 1

      > A show of extreme dating meets tech folks
      >(with hot chicks only) .....


      Co-ed naked Junkyard Wars! ... careful with that welder, son. ;)

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    9. Re:lineup by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 1

      "Oh... my... God... did you just see... the Perl script she just wrote?"
      "It's a test of accuracy as coding meets clothing... Strip Compiling!"
      Thanks, I'm looking forward to my swimsuit issue of MacWorld any day now...

    10. Re:lineup by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...and she should be in a bikini

      (aww, frig! Now I'm showing my age!)

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    11. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Screw the co-ed part, just have the naked chicks...

    12. Re:lineup by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      1 - Macs are part of a good number of the shows.
      2 - They do have some decent looking chicks in many of the shows...
      3 - Look closely - note that there are a LOT of penguins on set on The Screen Savers...
      4 - Sorry...
      5 - I know they've got a show for that, I just forgot what it is... Hot Gear, maybe?
      6 - Sorry, no bathing suits, and no plural.
      7 - Well, I guess they're trying a bit with the Date Laura Swisher contest, but the (with hot chicks only) part isn't exactly satisfied...

    13. Re:lineup by pragma_x · · Score: 1

      You forgot: "Hot Chicks On Macs" and the obligatory "Welcoming our new Comcast Overlords".

      Hrm.. this is starting to sound an awful lot like "Spike TV".

    14. Re:lineup by Ayaress · · Score: 1

      I think it would be even funnier to do it like Monster House on Discovery. Take a family of non-geeks, lock them in an RV in the driveway, unleash a few techies on their electronics, and let them all freak out when they see important and expensive looking components tossed out of windows for a week before being let back in the house to see what they did to it.

    15. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I don't use my mod points for "Funny" mods any more...if I'm going to use them to up a score on a post, I want that person to actually gain some karma out of it. Same reason I don't mod up anon posts.

    16. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anybody know who won the voting on which TechTV chick should pose in playboy ?

    17. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no no no... Leather! oh, or maybe Liquid Latex!

      Have a nice day!

    18. Re:lineup by Rallion · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess they're trying a bit with the Date Laura Swisher contest, but the (with hot chicks only) part isn't exactly satisfied...

      And the way she acts in the ads for it is freaking terrifying.

    19. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try http://www.haxxxor.com/... (nsfw)

    20. Re:lineup by fragalicous · · Score: 1

      id rather see "pimp my pc". tell me how cool that would be. some yahoo calls in and says "i have my pII 266 with a dust bunnies in my case and a monochrome monitor. please techtv, pimp my pc!"

    21. Re:lineup by roll_w.it · · Score: 1
      Does anybody know who won the voting on which TechTV chick should pose in playboy ?
      Morgan Webb
    22. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up! I wouldn't participate in that competition!

    23. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Pimp My Rig" sounds better.

      Thanks TechTV! You pimped my rig!

    24. Re:lineup by sysadmn · · Score: 1

      She can't.
      I have it on good authority she is allergic to benzoyl peroxide.

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    25. Re:lineup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mac Eye for the PC Guy

    26. Re:lineup by lewp · · Score: 1

      And in our case, even if you have the huge digital cable plan (all the pay channels, everything) TechTV still doesn't come in.

      Had techs out to look at it several times (not because of TechTV, it's largely worthless. Comedy Central has a similar problem), they say it's a "neighborhood-wide problem" and that they need to fix it at the office or whatever. Months go by, nothing happens.

      Already getting rid of their cable internet service in favor of Speakeasy DSL. Television will be gone as soon as I bother to get DirecTV installed.

      This has only been since we moved in to our current house (about 6 months). We've had the same service in other parts of Atlanta with no problems.

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    27. Re:lineup by sharkey · · Score: 1

      or better yet, out of one!

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  11. It is to bad. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is to bad that both of these stations just seem to stay very light on the true tech stuff. It would be nice if it were more like a discovery channel for tech stuff. Heck I would love a station that shows different algorithms, or different ways to do things in different languages. But Tech TV and G4 (Especially G4) just seemed like the Commercial Channel that advertises all that is l33t. Tech TV has a couple of good show but they were still laking. I guess that is why I watch Nasa TV.

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    1. Re:It is to bad. by David+Hume · · Score: 5, Funny

      Heck I would love a station that shows different algorithms, or different ways to do things in different languages.


      Now there is a recipe for high ratings.

    2. Re:It is to bad. by TCaptain · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd love this too, problem is that only maybe 10 people would watch it. :/

      The rest wouldn't even change to THAT channel..it would just hurt their brains too much.

      The lowest common denominator is just too damn low.

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    3. Re:It is to bad. by jonfelder · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heck I would love a station that shows different algorithms, or different ways to do things in different languages.

      The problem is no one else would.

    4. Re:It is to bad. by Zathrus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It would be nice if it were more like a discovery channel for tech stuff.

      Er... TechTV is.

      What, you think Discovery Channel (and its progeny) are hardcore science/history/etc.? Please. I enjoy a lot of programs on those channels, but I also know they're about as well respected by "serious" historians and in-field scientists as The Screen Savers is respected by real techies.

    5. Re:It is to bad. by Unknown+Kadath · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You mean like Discovery used to be, before it turned into "all Monster Garage, all the time"? I don't dislike that show, or other new Discovery fare like Mythbusters, but what happened to the science? Discovery has gone downhill, though not as badly as TLC. *shudder*

      I can just see it: "Today, on GTechTV4...Trading Cases, where two sets of neighbors trade computers for the weekend and do a killer new mod on one box in each others' homes!"

      -Carolyn

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    6. Re:It is to bad. by spikev · · Score: 1

      The parent is all to true. But perhaps someone could talk the academic channels like UCTV into doing more tech related broadcasting. Those channels carry the only real academic stuff anymore.

    7. Re:It is to bad. by Eberlin · · Score: 1

      Anyone else see this as a giant "Matrix screensaver" that just scrolls code down the TV screen? Man, plug it into sourceforge and you've got programming for years! (pun unfortunately intended)

      Then we'll have freaky TV-addicts who recognize the difference between mozilla and konqueror strictly by watching scrolling lines of code go by.

      Or maybe you can watch it, convulse a few times, and go "Whoa, I know Script-Fu!"

      If they throw in the hum of a bunch of servers along with the sound of extremely high powered AC blasting through the vents (while the code scrolls), I'm in!

    8. Re:It is to bad. by Dalcius · · Score: 1

      I'd love this too, problem is that only maybe 10 people would watch it. :/

      Don't underestimate geeks. We've got enough folks out there in the OSS movement to run a handful of enterprise level operating systems and all the related software with almost no support from hardware vendors and relatively little misc. corporate support.

      There are TONS of geeks out there who would love nothing better than to spend endless hours learning and soaking up info.

      How do the internals of a hard drive work? How do you protect a network from DDOS? What are the latest viruses, who's coming out with new technologies, when will my flying car and nano-clothes be here?

      Geek would eat this up left and right. The discovery channel covers a lot of this and geeks are obsessed with it. Put a more geeky spin on it with a little humor and more computers and you've got yourself a network nobody seems to have tried yet. The person who figures this out will be rich.

      Cheers

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    9. Re:It is to bad. by Unoti · · Score: 1
      Maybe. The only time I spend my free time watching TV is when my brain is too fried from writing or debugging code, or I'm too fried to play any games. That's the last time I want to contemplate under what circumstances a shell sort is inferior or take an inside look at the top 10 compiler optimization techniques. For me, that's what books are for in the bathroom at work.

      Actually I probably would watch it and enjoy it now that I think about it...

    10. Re:It is to bad. by Unoti · · Score: 1
      Every time I turn on Discovery Channel today I'm seeing either shows about interior decorating, that lame monster combat show filled with idle speculation about whether a shark could kill an alligator, or else more shows about interior decorating. Back in the day, it'd either be something about wildlife, space, Egyptian culture, or something else worthwhile and interesting.

      What happened to the Discovery Channel? It used to be the best thing on TV, now it's trash.

    11. Re:It is to bad. by Rallion · · Score: 1

      What do you expect from G4? It's not a tech channel! It's a gaming channel.

      As such, I would say that that makes it a crime to merge the channels, but from what I understand G4 offers very little content and doesn't really merit its own channel. I haven't seen it, but it looks that way, even from their own website.

    12. Re:It is to bad. by FPCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd watch a show showing a shark killing an interior decorator

    13. Re:It is to bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See, this is why you're an unemployed OSS-coding hippie, and the TV execs get hundreds of thousands of dollars. So they don't make stupid decisions like this.

    14. Re:It is to bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They could potentially have a good channel once they throw away all of the crappy stuff from each network. They might even have enough content to avoid the amazing repetition of g4. Although the informercials would probably have to stay.

    15. Re:It is to bad. by cyrl · · Score: 1

      It used to be a more technical show when it was ZDNET, somewhere around 2000. Ever since it became TechTV, they dumbed down the content.

    16. Re:It is to bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Broadcast the university courses. I cant see who could lost at it.
      Quebec already have this ("canal savoir" (the knowledge channel)) although there is no updates or diversity at all since a while, but still is the concept of a normal cable channel with university courses, on the air.

    17. Re:It is to bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen. Does the original poster expect Discovery Health to go into extremely technical medical info, or Discovery Wings to get into very high-tech details of aircraft engines? Geez.

    18. Re:It is to bad. by Aspherical+Cow · · Score: 1
      What, you think Discovery Channel (and its progeny) are hardcore science/history/etc.?

      I have to agree with you on that. My wife is a nurse, and she is always complaining about Discovery-Health programs. I'm an astrophysicist, and I always complain about astrophysics related programs. They're always fluffed up to the point of inaccuracy in order to reach a wide audience. This, however, doesn't stop my wife or me from watching the shows.

    19. Re:It is to bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who's gonna be watching it. Yo man cant understan such algorythms in tha furst plaice. ;)

  12. "I'm into murders and executions." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Even though I only have basic cable, I have seen countless hours of TechTV and G4 when I had the chance. TechTV showed in 1 hour what G4 bloated into 8.

    G4 never had potential. Games are an interactive media. Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself? Why wait 25 minutes see a review on a game you're curious about when you can go online and find it in 25 seconds?

    Hopefully this merger will in effect kill G4 completely and simply give TechTV a little more programming devoted to video games instead.

    But then again, you'll probably have to pay a premium channel fee to get this new 2-in-1 channel anyway.

    1. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by daveo0331 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      G4 never had potential. Games are an interactive media. Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself? Why wait 25 minutes see a review on a game you're curious about when you can go online and find it in 25 seconds?

      I agree, but wouldn't this criticism apply to a lot of other (successful) TV shows too? Why should I sit through 25 minutes of "news" stories I don't care about to see the one story I could have found in 25 seconds on an internet news site? Why sit through the Oscars when I can just look up the winners the next day on the web? Why watch an NBA game instead of going outside and actually playing basketball?

      TV doesn't have to be all that good, it just has to be good enough to grab your attention while channel surfing.

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    2. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about X-Play? Is that not enough gaming content for you? IMO, it's plenty.

      BTW, watching video of how the game plays is better than stills - if a picture is 1000 words, a 10 second long 30fps video is 300,000 words.

    3. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by PCM2 · · Score: 1
      G4 never had potential. Games are an interactive media. Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself?
      I guess you could say the same of ... like ... computers.

      Hmm, then again I could be wrong here. I've never watched TechTV.

      Oh yeah. Heh. See point 1.

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    4. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by brkello · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself?

      Good point! Let's extend this further! Why would you want to read news and view clip of other people playing football/basketball/baseball when you could be playing them yourselves? That's why shows like ESPN will never catch on.

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    5. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by smcn · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself?

      I've never watched G4, but I did once have a subscription to IGN.com and the video previews were my favorite part. Sometimes screenshots just aren't enough.

      Why wait 25 minutes see a review on a game you're curious about when you can go online and find it in 25 seconds?

      That's an easy one: Not everyone who plays video games has internet access, the same way not everyone who goes to see movies has internet access. Why do you think Roger Ebert has been on TV for so many years?
    6. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by Unoti · · Score: 1
      G4 never had potential. Games are an interactive media. Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself?

      Why would anyone watch ESPN when they could be out there playing Football with their buddies? Even though games are inherently interactive, there are things a TV show can do that other media can't. Specifically, things that show you on TV what you couldn't have seen without it.

      Like showing the world DDR championships-- that'd be good to see. Or tracking down the world champion team of CounterStrike players and watching them do their magic, and giving tips for how they do their thing.

    7. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, but wouldn't this criticism apply to a lot of other (successful) TV shows too? Why should I sit through 25 minutes of "news" stories I don't care about to see the one story I could have found in 25 seconds on an internet news site? Why sit through the Oscars when I can just look up the winners the next day on the web? Why watch an NBA game instead of going outside and actually playing basketball?

      I was half-expecting you to say "why should I sit through 25 minutes of news stories, when a few pot-shots at passing cars will have all the major news crews delivered to my door step".

  13. Please, please! by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let Adam Sessler be next to go!

    1. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please..... keep Adam and get rid of Morgan Web. She's an idiot who is neither educated nor funny. She's also kinda ugly. I liked Extended Play much better when it was just Adam... at least they didn't have the lame zooming-mtv-like camera angles. A retarded chimp could do better than Morgan Web. I liked Leo and I'm glad they replaced that numb nuts Chris from Call for Help. Lastly, get rid of Patrick too... he's lame.

    2. Re:Please, please! by La_Maudite · · Score: 1

      > > Let Adam Sessler be next to go!
      >
      > And Martin Seargent.

      What's wrong with them? I enjoy their performance on their respective shows. Are you guys looking for a job? ;-)

    3. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Kevin Rose.

    4. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Adam Sessler would be fine if he ran Xplay by himself. It's that damned horse-faced Morgan that's wrecking the show. Adam seems genuinely knowledgeable, and he's been hosting that show (in its many incarnations) for a long time now. Morgan, on the other hand, seems to constantly be reading off cue cards. On top of that, their schtick with Morgan 'dominating' Adam is just tired and lame.

      The only reason she's still on the network is because she has a huge rack, and I get the impression Xplay thinks its target audience is the type of 13 year-old busy wanking to JC Penny catalogs.

      It's a shame... Xplay could be a good show if they shuffled the format around a bit. Hell, it's not even Morgan's fault it's not, it's the damned writers.

    5. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude... stay out of my head!! You nailed it right on the head.... horse face, funny!

    6. Re:Please, please! by radish · · Score: 1

      I kinda like Adam Sessler. But maybe that's just because he's bathed in the reflected glory of Morgan Webb...

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    7. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      man you are an IDIOT!

      Morgan is one of the hottest girls on TV!

    8. Re:Please, please! by Ayaress · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ok, Adam, yes. He acts like he's stoned, drunk, and/or dizzy all the time. But Martin? Come on, you can't get rid of him. What would a channel about the internet be without a show that mostly just talks about porno?

    9. Re:Please, please! by homerules · · Score: 2, Funny

      You need a better TV.

    10. Re:Please, please! by jgoemat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You have got to be kidding... Back when X-Play was Extended Play and before Morgan started annoying me with her voice it was a much better show. The comments were much more funny and you didn't have to put up with Morgan and Adam's annoying forced banter. Sure she has great honkers, but they could just review more games like DOA Volleyball to make up for it.

    11. Re:Please, please! by BigKato · · Score: 1

      No, he's kind of endearing after all these years. I appreciate his enthusiasm for games and dislike of all these RPG's. Did anyone see the episode where there was an Adam Sessler look-a-like that acted just like him? It was damn funny.

      If only Morgan Webb wouldn't wear so many damn clothes X-Play would be the perfect show.

      My biggest complaint is the romance of Kevin and Sarah on TSS. It's sickening the way they act on TV. Very unprofessional! I think Kevin gets sick of it sometimes but I wonder if the producers tell them to play it up. Sometimes it looks like he wants to throw a keyboard at her when she tries to be cute and funny.

      When is Playboy gonna do a TechTV issue with Morgan, Cat, and the redhead who does Tech Live now (used to be on screen savers)?

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    12. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hell no, marty kicks ass.

    13. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! His stupid bitching about RPG's wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for what he considers to be good games *cough* Rayman *cough* some other lame platformer... There's no way that shit is better than a well made Japanese RPG.

    14. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "When is Playboy gonna do a TechTV issue with Morgan, Cat..."

      Topless pictures of Cat are available on the web. She posted some photos, some of which were cropped. Some enterprising geek retrieved the uncropped version from a thumbnail (or something, unclear about the details).

      A Google search will find these.

    15. Re:Please, please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.hektik.org/various/cat/

    16. Re:Please, please! by hoc2ieman · · Score: 1

      NEVER!!!! the sessler is staying right where he is!!!

    17. Re:Please, please! by wolfpaws · · Score: 1

      You think Morgan Webb has a huge rack??!?!?

      Nigga, please!

    18. Re:Please, please! by korn_lip_ohio · · Score: 1

      "Sure she has great honkers, but they could just review more games like DOA Volleyball to make up for it.", I think most guys prefer REAL chicks you fucking freak!

    19. Re:Please, please! by mjh88 · · Score: 1

      That is so true. Adam used to be really entertaining just by himself talking about games. It was almost like he was talking to the viewer directly which made it very entertaining. Now that feeling is lost. I have nothing against Morgan Webb and I enjoyed her on TSS but Adam and her together are downright annoying. I still am not sure why executives thought Adam needed a co-host but whatever. I just miss the ol' Adam...

    20. Re:Please, please! by TheRev · · Score: 1

      I agree.. Tech TV w/o Marty would be like TechTV w/o Leo or Pat.. er wait Leo's gone.. as is.. its not gonna be the same.

  14. Please ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please keep X-Play and Anime Unleashed. They can dump all the other shows including that asswipe Martin Sargent

    1. Re:Please ! by spudthepotatofreak · · Score: 1

      agreed, anime unleashed is the saving grace of that whole channel, that and morgan web... hubba hubba :D

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  16. Geez... by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1

    WIll they still show Anime Unleashed? Will I get to see the second half of Last Exile?

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    1. Re:Geez... by oki900 · · Score: 0

      If you read the FAQ that Blackwulf posted you will notice that the programing is not yet determined, but AnimeUnleashed is mentioned so it definatly is not being ignored. The last half of Last Exile has not (as far as Im aware at this point) had a US Release, so untill it has you wont see it broadcast. This is a good anime and if you are a fan I do suggest you purchase the DVD's. Anime had a fairly big boom in the last 2 years in the US which happens every so often, then when it dies down we start seeing less being imported and have to rely on FanSub. So please support anime! You should also consider visiting The Anime Network to find out if this station is available to you, and if not fill out the request form.

    2. Re:Geez... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just finished watching last exile. Alex Rou dies in the end....

    3. Re:Geez... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but what else did you expect from such an (admitedly great) anti-hero? Most characters who are revenge-consumed shells of their former selves usually don't make it to the end of the series.

    4. Re:Geez... by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      TechTV holds the USA broadcast rights for the rest of the english-dub of Last Exile, except for the fact that the conversion process is not done yet. Unfortunately, this is one of those "It'll be done when it's finished!" projects, so it's not clear when the rest will be available, but it's certainly the case that as each episode does become available, TechTV has the rights to it. They aired the 13th episode recently which is not on the DVD because it wasn't available when that was made.

  17. Xplay by ilmdba · · Score: 1

    As long as they don't fuck with Xplay...

    1. Re:Xplay by fizz · · Score: 1

      death to adam sessler, and welcome to morgan to my bedroom :)

    2. Re:Xplay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Adam Sessler is good at what he does. The way Morgan talks it seems like she's not a gamer at heart. Morgan is cute but NOT hot. How she won the PLayboy contest is beyond me.

      Adam is eccentric which fits the part of game reviewer nicely. I prefer watching this much more than watching someone like Kevin Rose acting like he's 1337.

    3. Re:Xplay by oki900 · · Score: 0

      I agree, XPlay 'SEEMS' to be 'LESS' biased than most other game review magazines, web sites or TVshows. They are not afraid to outright say a game sux. I rely on XPlay as I refuse to pay to subscrive to a website that even after payment insists on streaming adds to me and having biased opinions.

    4. Re:Xplay by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      Amen. I fear this will be changed, and I like it just as it is.

      Did you catch the show with the Big Rigs review? I had to watch it twice, and I'll record it when it reairs this weekend. That cracked me up.

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    5. Re:Xplay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adam is freaking hilarious. Not only that, he knows his stuff inside and out. He knows all the roots and disasters since Atari and it shows. Not only that, his comedy bits are some of the funniest stuff TV has ever seen. Just because he's balding doesn't mean he should go...

  18. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by millahtime · · Score: 1

    "since Microsoft owns quite a chunk of Comcast,"

    M$ is sneaky. They are trying to take over another industry right under our noses. Those sneaky bastards.

  19. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by Knightmare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You mean just like msnbc which covers all the anti microsoft stories just like the rest of the media?

  20. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by DavidLeblond · · Score: 1

    Good observation. We know that Leo runs a Mac at home, perhaps these two stories are tied?

  21. Finally! by Xoder · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some explanation to the Disney bid! I couldn't figure out why Comcast wanted a somewhat-struggling content provider in their portfolio, but now I see that They (as in MS) were looking for that key 3-12 year-old demographic.

    "Daddy, Mickey said that all Linux users are terrorists, and that I should kick you in the shins until you buy Windows 2600"

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    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could they legally call it 2600?

      Perhaps more importantly, would they even want to, considering the nature of that magazine?

    2. Re:Finally! by larry+bagina · · Score: 1
      Could they legally call it 2600?


      Yes. Numbers by themselves are not trademarkable. That's why intel branded the 586 a "pentium".

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    3. Re:Finally! by cens0r · · Score: 1

      The explanation for the Disney bid can be summed up in one word, ESPN. ESPN is the most popular cable channel. It also charges the highest rates to the cable/sattalite companies. Imagine what comcast could do with that!

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    4. Re:Finally! by Stonent1 · · Score: 1

      "Windows 2600"

      The hackable quarterly?

    5. Re:Finally! by djohnsto · · Score: 1

      What I'd like them to do with it is make it available without standard cable. Here in Portland Ore, comcast charges $12 / month for limited basic (local, discovery, crap) and $44 for standard basic (the cheapest package that includes espn). All I really want is local, discovery, and espn/espn2. However, I'm not paying an extra $32 just for espn (I don't care about the rest of the channels that come with standard cable). It would be nice if they offered just espn (or perhaps the whole disney package) for $10-$15 more per month. I'll probably end up getting the cheapest dish network subscription ($25) instead. I'll keep comcast for local because I use them for broadband, and the incremental cost for local channels is only $2 (which is less than the $5 to get local from dish).

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    6. Re:Finally! by cens0r · · Score: 1

      A big part of the reason tha you need such a big increase to get ESPN is because ESPN charges huge fees. That's one of the reasons comcast wanted Disney so bad, it lowers their bottom line and allows them to force Dish and DirecTV to increase their prices.

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    7. Re:Finally! by Humpinate · · Score: 1

      Well, I certainly get your drift about the next 200 bug-ridden relases of Micro$oft's product line, I also KNOW they would NEVER call a product 2600 ('cause of the anti-hacker stance of Micro$oft)
      BTW, contribute early and often to 2600.com

  22. RobotWars by FrostedWheat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe they'll stop showing Robot Wars and put some decent shows on instead

    I dunno what Robot Wars your watching, but the UK one is a really good show. The only thing spoiling it now are the adverts! (It changed channels here, never used to have adverts before.)

    1. Re:RobotWars by maxbang · · Score: 1

      I'll have to agree (for the win) - Robot Wars is great. If nothing else, it allows me to watch a Red Dwarf alumni make a little cash. I am a little bummed about the demise of BattleBots on CC.

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    2. Re:RobotWars by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      TechTV is only showing imported episodes from the UK with commercial breaks inserted into the program. (They've yet to aquire the latest season that's presently airing in the UK.)

      TNN, which is now called SpikeTV, aquired the rights to produce a US-based version of the show along with rerun rights to one of the UK seasons. Their main mistake was bringing in poor choices of US personalites to host their edition of the show, and completely editing out the Brit hosts from the imported episodes in favor of an even worse selection of American talent. TechTV, by contrast, is not editing out the British personalites.

      TechTV however cannot produce their own edition of the program since SpikeTV still holds that option through 2007.

    3. Re:RobotWars by Morrisguy · · Score: 1

      I dunno what Robot Wars your watching, but the UK one is a really good show.

      Well, acording to the TechTV website, it is the UK version, albeit somewhat old compared to what might be running in the UK now. (Not living in the UK and not being able to access the robotwars.co.uk webiste at the time of posting, I cannot verify this claim.)

      But then again, being Canadian and watching it on Space, I have no idea how TechTV is handling it.

    4. Re:RobotWars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robot Wars is good but it needs more fights and less talk. Also, I can't stand how the house bots get in the middle of fights either. Sometimes they are needed to liven things up but other times they seem to change the action.

    5. Re:RobotWars by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      completely editing out the Brit hosts from the imported episodes in favor of an even worse selection of American talent

      Wow, that's pritty messed up. What about the interviews in the pits or just after the fights? I'd imagine they's have to keep or drop them completly. There wouldn't be much of a show left!

    6. Re:RobotWars by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      House robots: Matilda, Dead Metal, Mr. Psycho, Growler, Shunt, Sir Killalot, and Sgt. Bash

      It's the last season. Mr.Psycho and Growler where the new house robots.

      Mr.Psycho probably shouldn't have happened, but it's nothing compared to the really pointless Cassius Chrome (sp?) they added this season.

    7. Re:RobotWars by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Yes, the mess-up process took fully functional 45-minute commercial-free shows and made 30-minute commercial-filled shows.

      TechTV's process, on the other hand, takes the 45-minute episodes and makes a 60-minute commercial show out of them. Much more sane...

    8. Re:RobotWars by Ayaress · · Score: 1

      Does TNN/Spike still act on their Robot Wars license? I didn't like it when they did. They tied it too close to wrestling. Even stuck Mick Foley in there. Yeah, I guess he's cool in his way, but it just seemed WRONG to have him on the show. Personally, I liked Battle Bots more than Robot Wars, but Comedy Central seems to have abandoned the show in favor of reaping royalties off merchandising.

    9. Re:RobotWars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but there ALREADY IS an american version that plays on one of the nick. networks.

      wtf?

  23. Keep Morgan Webb, and we're all set... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Who's with me?

    1. Re:Keep Morgan Webb, and we're all set... by cabra771 · · Score: 2, Funny

      *crickets chirping*

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    2. Re:Keep Morgan Webb, and we're all set... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's an idot... and ugly to boot. Kick her to the curb as well.

    3. Re:Keep Morgan Webb, and we're all set... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lay off the crack pipe, buddy. She's beeeeeeautiful. She could host a show about grouting tile floors and I'd watch. Of course, she's also about the only good thing on TechTV.

    4. Re:Keep Morgan Webb, and we're all set... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't believe everyone thinks Morgan Web is hot. She's a sow and about as plain as you can get. To me, breasts don't equal beauty.... especially if that's all you've got. You can totally tell she's in her early 20's by the way she talks and acts. Lame. I'd like to see Adam drop kick her for being soooo annoying.

    5. Re:Keep Morgan Webb, and we're all set... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh... are you saying Adam's not annoying? That's rich. I agree Morgan usually appears pretty awkward on camera, but if anyone needs to be drop-kicked for being annoying, it's him.

      You can totally tell she's in her early 20's by the way she talks and acts. Lame.

      So does that totally mean that you're, like, totally 14 and junk?

    6. Re:Keep Morgan Webb, and we're all set... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      She's a sow and about as plain as you can get.

      Picky, picky, picky. Sure she's not a Victoria's Secret model, but then again I wouldn't want to date a Victoria's Secret model. She's an attractive woman, not a bombshell - so what?
      You can totally tell she's in her early 20's by the way she talks and acts.

      You know why that's ok? Because she's in her early 20's, you moron.
  24. Merger FAQ from G4 by Blackwulf · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Merger FAQ from G4 by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      However, this G4 FAQ needs to be taken with a grain of salt because it appears to be written by G4 employees whose jobs are just as uncertain as TechTV employee jobs at this point. At a business level, G4 is not buying TechTV... Comcast is buying most TechTV from Vulcan Ventures, with Echostar being fussy and refusing to sell their shares in TechTV, Inc.

      That, and the FAQ really doesn't ammount to anything newsworthy. The listings of shows aren't exactly promises that any of the shows listed will continue or those left out will not, and the fact that the network's "headquarters" will be in L.A. just means that the PHBs will be located there. For example, CNN presently houses their executives and master control operations, but most of their weekday lineup is originating from New York City and Washington D.C. moreso than Altanta at this point. The content people don't always have to be at "headquarters".

      Another thing that the FAQ nicely dodges is whether the new network will be called "TechTV", "G4", or some other name.

  25. What concerns me most by JSDopefish · · Score: 5, Informative

    is that Comcast HATES HATES HATES DirecTV. G4 has never been on DirecTV because of that. Philadelphia Phillies games are never shown on DirecTV (at least not ones with Phillies coverage) because of their hatred of satellite.

    I really hope that it doesn't cause TechTV to disappear off DirecTV. I have about 6 shows with Season passes on my TiVo from TechTV. I'll be seriously pissed.

    In fact, I'm already pissed. I like TechTV just the way it is.

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    1. Re:What concerns me most by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      G4 and Style Network are not on DirecTV because DirecTV refuses to talk about those networks until Comcast SportsNet Philly is made available to them. However, Comcast's E! network continues nice and safe on DirecTV because it was already there... it's hard to take away a network subscribers already have without some canceling, but much easier to not add new ones.

      So, by aquiring TechTV, Comcast picks up another network that DirecTV is bound by contract to keep for a few years, and can't really drop very easily. No wonder they're paying for TechTV more than double what they've ever spent on G4.

    2. Re:What concerns me most by Itsik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Notice what the G4's CEO said "... This merger is a win for G4; a win for TechTV; and a win for our advertising and affiliate partners," I didn't see anything about viewers. In other words I suspect that your worries will turn out to be founded.

    3. Re:What concerns me most by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      comcast hates directv because baby dish is the only thing challenging cable. Essentially they're going to end up either putting cable out of business or forcing them to advance themselves technologically in order to keep up. The only advantage wires have over satellite is that there's a ~750ms trip to the sat. And then another one back again. Just one leg of that journey is enough to make a first person shooter unplayable, it's generally useless for highly interactive traffic of any sort.

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  26. This scares me by damniel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this mean I might lose tech tv on my Directv satellite? This just allows Comcast to come out, and charge enough for the programming that other providers(small cable companies,directv,dish network) cannot afford the programming. As these large companies such as Time Warner, Comcast etc., start buying up more interesting programming such as tech tv, I think we will start to see a homogenizing affect. Worst case, they may find that these channels don't generate enough ratings, to make big ad dollars, so they drop them, after they have been assimilated.

    1. Re:This scares me by leviramsey · · Score: 2, Informative

      Comcast Sports Net (the Baltimore-Washington-NoVa version, not the Philly version) is available on DirecTV. The crappy excuse for a channel called CN8 is not available on DirecTV, though.

      Small cable cos are in no danger, as they generally don't share markets with Comcast.

      Dish is in the dangerous position. DirecTV is harder to cut off, because if Comcast tries to cut DirecTV out, News Corp. will cut Comcast out of Fox News, Fox Sports Net, and network-owned affiliates. If Comcast in northern New Jersey, Connecticut, and Eastern Massachusetts loses Fox coverage of the Red Sox and Yankees in the ALCS while DirecTV buys ads in the various local newspapers saying, "You can't see the Red Sox square off against the Yankees on Comcast. Here are bars that subscribe to DirecTV that can show the games. Subscribers to Charter Cable, RCN, Cablevision, Time Warner Cable, DirecTV and other television providers are not affected." Comcast would lose a million homes easily from this. Playing hardball with Rupert Murdoch has not, historically, been a winning proposition.

      Dish, however, has no content portfolio to use against its competition as a bargaining chip. Conversely, there are content providers who have no distribution portfolio. This is why I'd expect to see, assuming the Disney deal goes through, GE (NBC) and Viacom (CBS) to buy Cox and Dish.

    2. Re:This scares me by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Does this mean I might lose tech tv on my Directv satellite?

      According to the splash on the G4 site it means that G4 will be expanded to "44 million cable and satellite homes nationwide". Given that currently all of 0 Dish or DirecTV homes currently receive G4 I'd guess that the merged G4/TechTV will simply replace TechTV.

      I'd also guess that there will be no rate changes for providers until their contract runs out (however long the contract w/ TechTV was). At that point Comcast could try to gouge for G4, but lets be honest -- it's not a major selling point.

      As these large companies such as Time Warner, Comcast etc., start buying up more interesting programming such as tech tv, I think we will start to see a homogenizing affect.

      I agree. It's really absurd that the government is allowing vertical monopolies in the broadcasting realm. I suppose that, to a large extent, they always existed with the three major networks, but it certainly seems to be getting worse, not better. Recent FCC rulings in this realm haven't helped things either, particularly the ones that allow not only vertical monopolies (production to distribution) but horizontal ones (TV, radio, print all owned by the same company).

    3. Re:This scares me by YetAnotherAnonymousC · · Score: 1

      Dish is in the dangerous position. DirecTV is harder to cut off, because if Comcast tries to cut DirecTV out, News Corp. will cut Comcast out of Fox News, Fox Sports Net, and network-owned affiliates.

      So this is what it has come to... mutually assured destruction as the means to keep mega-media corps in check.

    4. Re:This scares me by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

      No. TechTV has long-term deals with DirecTV, Dish Network, and nearly every cable operator (other than Comccast, interestingly) that would be mighty expensive to break. Any serious changes to TechTV will have to be signed-off by these players or there'd be the risk of a breach of contract lawsuit forming.

      That, and to buy TechTV, and then take it away from its existing distribution structure would be like buying a $300 million dollar toy, playing with it for a day, and then throwing it in the trash. There's not much value in taking TechTV and then making it as weak as G4 is today...

    5. Re:This scares me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Comcast wants to keep TechTV profitable, and the only way to do that is with advertisers. Advertisers want audience. THey'll obviously give themselves a deal but they'll need to remain competitive or risk losing advertising audience/revenue.

    6. Re:This scares me by Schnapple · · Score: 1
      Well G4 is in more homes than Comcast cable is - so Comcast is at the very least letting other cable providers carry the channel.

      Remember that Comcast is bound by physical proximity, so while G4/TechTV could be seen as "incentive" to do Comcast instead of Dish, in places where there is no Comcast, there's no reason not to let those cable networks take the channel.

      Besides, the way a network works is to charge advertisers money. The more homes you can say you're in the more you can charge. It's not in Comcast's best interests to take it out of homes.

    7. Re:This scares me by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      I get about 200 channels on cable. If Tech TV pulls in 1 viewer in 200, it's doing average, and an owner who kills it is a fool. If it can't draw 1 in 200, that's pathetic and it needs to improve or go away.

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    8. Re:This scares me by leviramsey · · Score: 1

      Hey, it worked in the Cold War... ;o)

    9. Re:This scares me by mabu · · Score: 1

      TechTV has long-term deals with DirecTV

      Reason #4,582 why DirecTV rules and Comcast sucks.

      Comcast is now the "Microsoft Outlook" of the cable industry. If it's all that's available in your region (company), then it's sad for you, but if you have a choice, the wise person dumps Comcast (Outlook).

    10. Re:This scares me by YetAnotherAnonymousC · · Score: 1

      Shh! You'll start a flame war. =)

    11. Re:This scares me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      calling bullshit

      I worked for echostar - we had programming change ALL THE TIME. Now the channel itself being nuked - yes there would be agreements to that effect. the content ON the channel is up to the provider. so if they want to sack all of the shows - tough cookies. the only content that is determined by contract are specific events, movies ppv etc.

    12. Re:This scares me by Geekenstein · · Score: 1

      Certainly not. In order for a television network to make money, it has to sell advertising or go completely pay (such as HBO and the like). To get a lot of money for your advertising spots, you need a viewing audience. In other words, that would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

      This isn't a school yard. These corporations are in business to make money, and these kinds of tricks wouldn't do that for them.

  27. Damn Leo, just keep Morgan! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Who cares about seeing a middle age guy talk about defragging and anti-virus software.

    I'd rather see Morgan Webb talk about shooting up ninjas.

    1. Re:Damn Leo, just keep Morgan! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Admit it, you just like to watch her boobies.

    2. Re:Damn Leo, just keep Morgan! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah! I do!

      I am red-blooded american, thank you.. and girls with big racks that love video games are HawT!!!!

  28. Hosting Until Friday... by GuyinVA · · Score: 0

    "Starting next week..."
    Maybe we'll get to see more of Sara Lane..

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  30. TechTV + G4... should have happened years ago... by gamgee5273 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I remember TechTV in its heyday (when I was laid-off in the summer of 2001). Fairly strong programming, very little repetition... and then I went back to work.

    By time I got to watch a decent stretch of TechTV again, it was December of 2001 and the channel was shot. TSS was repeating upwards of four times a day, that Lockergnome freak was destroying Call for Help and the news department seemed to ship everyone off to CNN.

    Fast forward a little bit to 2002/2003 and Comcast now has G4 and Anime Network. TechTV is trying to get into anime (never figured that one out) to reach a "hipper audience." G4, even in its initial prime, was akin to watching a post-2001 TechTV (how many of you have watched our very own Wil Wheaton hosting the same handful of "Arena" episodes for close to a year?!?).

    Now, I'm no fan of Comcast, but this does one thing: solidifies geekdom in one channel.

    Comcast should:

    1) Bring Wil back; 2) Give Leo a big, fat payraise; 3) Create a proper news department; 4) Send all of the anime over to Anime Network;

    And, most importanly:

    5) Get G4/TechTV (GeekTV?) and Anime Network on DirecTV so I CAN WATCH/TiVO THEM, DAMMIT! :D

    In all, this is probably a good thing...

  31. That's okay by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 4, Funny

    >(Of course, at this point they've only

    >agreed to buy.)


    At this point, I've onlya agreed to watch.

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  32. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by flea69 · · Score: 1, Informative

    TechTV was started by Paul Allen...remember him...the Microsoft guy...so you Comcast/Microsoft conspiricy is flawed(dollar short/day late). TechTV despite Paul Allen consistently bashes Microsft products.

  33. Hey! by Hyro · · Score: 0

    Robot wars are the reason for my existence!

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  34. Digital cable only by objekt · · Score: 1

    So poor bastids like me who have Comcast over regular not digital cable won't be able to watch it.

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  35. It IS unsettling by willtsmith · · Score: 1


    This is the product of a de-regulated environment. Companies buy each other with haste and speed. Partially because of comparitive advantage of a larger company. Partially to engratiate executives who's stock options become WAY more valuable around merger time. The consumers are the one's who ultimately loose.

    Time-Warner, Comcast, Viacom, Disney, Clear-Channel and NBC all need to be broken up. Let's hope our next President (John Kerry) follows through on his some of his trust-busting promises.

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    1. Re:It IS unsettling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which promise is that???

      The one where he promises to break up the trusts or the one where he promises to allow them?

      John Kerry!! The candidate for everyman...he will promise whatever it is you want!!!!

      And if you change your mind so will he!!!!

  36. Crap! by r_j_prahad · · Score: 1

    I waited and waited for so long for TechTV to improve enough so that I would watch it again. So now it's gotten good enough again that it's finally back on my lineup, and some mega-conglomerate is going to start screwing around with it? Time to vote it down on the Tivo, and start waiting all over again I guess....

  37. Morgan Webb and Laura Swisher need by zrk · · Score: 1

    to host a show together.

    1. Re:Morgan Webb and Laura Swisher need by maxbang · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, yes, and yes! It will be called: Whipped Cream Panties, Linux, and You.

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  38. Oh, TechTV's still around? by jht · · Score: 1

    I figured they were toast when the bubble popped.

    Seriously, I read about this yesterday on FC - I'm kind of surprised to see it here, too. While an occasional tech-centered show on a cable channel is one thing, having a channel devoted to it is another. Comcast may be able to make something of it, but more likely they'll just wind up taking a couple of the better shows and splicing them in elsewhere.

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  39. The MS influence is already clear on G4 by cprincipe · · Score: 1

    One of the things you notice if you watch G4TV is the complete X-Box bias they have on any review shows.

    If a game is multi-platform, its X-Box version is the one that is reviewed. For instance, the Madden release reviewed is the XBox one.

    The XBox only games that are reviewed are the best that are available for Xbox, and always given glowing reviews.

    The PS2 games reviewed are the dogs of the platform, and thus given middling to panning reviews.

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  40. NOOOOOOO by Solidblu · · Score: 0, Redundant

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Blasphemey

    The devil has taken television's saving grace. (minus adult swim)

  41. My twisted hate-hate relationship w/ Comcast by dnaboy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I really don't know what to make of this one. In my old place, I had DirecTV, and LOVED it, for several reasons, not the least of which being TechTV. True, it's not the most amazingly technical network in the world, but I really enjoyed shows like FreshGear (where a lot of new toys are previewed, and reviewed), and even the Screen Savers (which delivers computer tips and tricks along with even more web sites to visit in order to make sure my employer gets the least value possible for his employee dollar). Anyway, a year or so ago I moved to a new apartment, facing the wrong direction for my dish. No big deal. I'll just get cable...

    My Bill went from basic programming for about 30something dollars to 70something dollars. Who's my cable company? You guessed it. Comcast.

    I still pay out the cash, though the thing that really irks me is that I don't get the stations I had come to take for granted. TechTV, CNBC world (OK, I'm a dork), and a bunch of other, slightly less important channels.

    I guess I'm glad, as I'll apparently now likely get TechTV back, but I seriously hope this doesn't mean another rate hike (above the 8% from last fall, out of which we got zero new channels, and a new arrangement of channels so that I had to relearn every channel again.

    My Rant is done...I'm going to go watch Dawson's Creek.

  42. I expect a lot more Tech TV coverage of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...cable modems and how much faster they are compared to Verizon DSL. And stories on how to hold down your satellite dish when the slightest of breezes blow it into the neighbors yard.

  43. Time for the Slashdot Hour by Darth+Cider · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not kissing up here, but TechTV is boring and dumbed down (often infuriatingly so).

    1. Re:Time for the Slashdot Hour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great... then we can all watch hours and hours of idiots argueing over Bush versus Kerry or US vs. the World whenever anything on NASA or DARPA or Microsoft Rulings or a host of other topics is ever mentioned...

  44. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, but TechTV's outgoing owner is Vulcan Ventures, which is a VC firm that's mainly owned by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen. So, one link to MS out, another in. I don't think this is much of a net change at all from that perspective.

  45. New/Better Programming by adam231 · · Score: 1

    Tech TV has some great shows and a tradition of advocating Linux (and Mac, BSD, ect...) and OSS, they also offer consistently objective product reviews, but 3 or 4 strong shows 3 tech/journalism shows and 22 robot war, spy school assorted crap shows do not make up a 24 hr cable channel. Well actually they do but not a really go one. I've never watched G4 and Tech TV already has a pretty good gaming show but maybe combining the 2 could make for a stronger more consistently watchable tech channel (god knows my wife would just love that).
    On the other hand Comcast would probably put their people in charge and as pointed out earlier Microsoft owns a chunck of Comcast, so we could see the only channel on cable that has some Linux/OSS programming become Redmond poster boys.

  46. TechTV is pretty cool. by MrPoopyPants · · Score: 1

    I adore the UK Robot Wars that are currently shown on TechTV. I have limited basic+cable modem here so I don't get scifi or any other cool channels (who has time to watch TV anyway?). TechTV is one of the few good channels I get.

    I catch Anime Unleashed now again but my favorite shows are Robot Wars, Xplay, and Unscrewed. Wil Wheaton's appearance helped me get through a long night trying to finish a project. Wil, if you're reading this, your threat to give Martin Sargent a cock-punching for dissing your website was awesome. You had the fist all ready and everything.

    (Another note to Wil: My real name is Wesley so while growing up you were my favorite television namesake. Well, the only other choice was that kid from Mr. Belvediere...)

    1. Re:TechTV is pretty cool. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd get modded down only if 'Creepy' was a valid mod reason.

  47. what's TV? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... is that what you get on the other cable - next to the one going to my cable modem?

  48. Eh, I wouldn't watch by qortra · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The fact is, computer-based news/facts are so much more easily obtained on the web (with a computer, of all devices). What you're suggesting is like making a radio station dedicated to innovations-in and methods-of television broadcasting.

    I can understand what you're looking for, but television is the wrong medium. Stations like G4/TechTV will always be targeted towards those who plan to make the jump into computers, or who have only been recently indoctrinated into the WWW.

  49. Bye Bye Tux... by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    I guess our favorite penguin won't be showing up in the props anymore... considering M$ owns a lot of comcast...

    1. Re:Bye Bye Tux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tech TV is owned by Paul Allen (until this sale goes through).

      Asswipe.

  50. THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO! by pauls2272 · · Score: 1

    Only thing I've ever watched on Tech TV was the annotated version of the Thunderbirds.

    They used to have it on late at night. Not sure anymore if they still show it but the popups with comments, insights and background info was very cool.

    1. Re:THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO! by PainKilleR-CE · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure about the annotations (because I don't watch it), but I know they show the Thunderbirds for at least an hour on weekend mornings (right after they stop the infomercials).

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      -PainKilleR-[CE]
    2. Re:THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO! by WTFmonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thunder, thunder, thunder THUNDERCA -- oh, sorry.

  51. TechTV.... by John+Seminal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember watching this show in college. Back then they previewed new video cards, talked about software, and played will all sorts of gadgets. They also let people know about new products comming out. So I am suprised the show never took off. I never once was offered Tech TV with my cable deal after leaving the dorms (it has been many years, and I now get 60 channels, twice as many as in college). I know when I was in college, if Tech TV gave a good review for some cool product, someone in the dorm would purhcase it. So they had a great audiance for selling products. I wonder why they failed?

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    1. Re:TechTV.... by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      They didn't fail. It's still on, showing basically the same stuff. And it's still good.

      We got it in the digital package with Time Warner Cable and with Cox Cable. When we switched to Dish Network, we choose the Top 120 package specifically to get TechTV.

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      It doesn't hurt to be nice.
    2. Re:TechTV.... by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      They haven't failed. The network is still on the air, and all that's really happening is that they're changing hands at a valuation that puts it worth about twice what Comcast has already sunk into G4.

      It's much more likely that the surviving network will look more like TechTV than G4 does today.

  52. ...and for the love of Zardoz KEEP THE ANIME! by Penguinisto · · Score: 1
    Sorry, I had to add my piece to yours.

    (that, or someone make an anime channel, dammit.)

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    1. Re:...and for the love of Zardoz KEEP THE ANIME! by Catbeller · · Score: 1

      (that, or someone make an anime channel, dammit.)

      Making a contribution here:

      The Anime Network

      Hope it helps. Don't know if that network is still around. A pay-channel, tho.

    2. Re:...and for the love of Zardoz KEEP THE ANIME! by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      It's still around, but apparently only as Video On Demand.

      Digital Cable companies, (...like Comcast...) in their attempts at competing with satellites, have begun to roll out On Demand channels because it's a lot easier to do two-way communication over a cable than through satellite. And On Demand isn't that bad, although a well run Tivo is quite comparable.

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    3. Re:...and for the love of Zardoz KEEP THE ANIME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI the anime network is a free channel (at least here in the houston area if you have time warner). And at least they keep all of their anime UNCUT AND UNEDITED. unlike techtv

  53. Patrick Norton by jrwillis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I hate to see Leo no longer hosting TSS, so long as Patrick Norton is still there we're ok. I think he's one of the only true geeks on TV right now. Rock on Patrick.

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    1. Re:Patrick Norton by Quebst · · Score: 1

      In his bio he says that slashdot is his favorite website. If you're reading this Patrick, please reply using your real handle or not. It would be interesting to find out what the TechTv personalities think about this.

      btw, I too think Patrick is the best part of the channel. He isn't the best TV personality but he seems to be down to earth. I think he would be the type of guy you'd talk tech to in a local store.

  54. Welcome!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I for one welcome our Monthly Cable Bandwidth for no reason Capping Overlords.

  55. Re:Leo Laporte by Str8Dog · · Score: 1

    This is one of my big gripes about TSS. The combo of Pat and Kevin seem to be a good mix. They just need to move Sara off the show, so her and Kevin stop kissing eachothers ass on the show.

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  56. Now I understand... by Cboyd0319 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Two nights ago, I came home from work to find that my TechTV was no longer included in my programming. I called Comcast to see what was going on and they informed me that the 'Buisness Network' channels were now $5 more a month. This included TechTV, Bloomberg, and a few others. Of course, I told them to go ahead and charge me the $5. I was curious about the sudden billing change, but now I understand. A lot of money was probably spent on this, and I'm sure they wanted to see how many users jumped at the chance to have TechTV back before they annouced the buy.

  57. Good riddance by itomato · · Score: 1
    Seems to me that he kept the pace of the show at a crawl.

    Guest: And now we're going to get down to business here, and plug in the USB

    Leo (interrupting at the wrong moment): Just to clarify, USB is the Universal Serial Bus. It's got a plug that looks like this: OK, go ahead.

    Guest (ramping back up): OK, like I was saying...

    Some older folks may like his accessibility or whatever, but jeez - Whattafriggindork!
  58. Bah by Saturninus · · Score: 0

    This is very disheartining news. Pretty soon TechTV will become the equivalent of MTV to music. Very very sad day.

  59. Re:Leo Laporte by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In general I like Leo (especially as compared to many other TechTV-ers), but you are sooo right about his interrupting. It's like he's so enthusiastic to show off how much he knows that he

    Leo jumps in

    "finishes their sentences for them and follows up with another couple of points that leave the guest just to sit there and give an awkward, 'uh, yeah' while Leo continues on? Yeah, I hate that, too..."

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  60. Re:Leo Laporte by freeze128 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been watching TechTV for about 3 years now, and I can tell you that Leo didn't always interrupt his co-hosts or guests. Only within the last 9-12 months has this started to happen. He used to work VERY well with Patrick Norton.

    There is a local public access technology show in my area, and the host on that show NEVER lets his guests finish their sentences. It must just be something about the business.

  61. Could someone by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 1

    Could someone explain to me what G4 is? I can't view their homepage without turning on cookies and I find it rather strange that (what I presume to be) a technology website (which would in theory understand privacy) would force anyone to turn on cookies to do so much as view their main index page.

    1. Re:Could someone by British · · Score: 1

      G4 is the all-videogames channel. Fun to watch Starcade reruns, but their Red vs. Blue ripoff show(forgot the name) is painful to watch.

      It's also the "Pringles commercial" channel. I think I'd rather trade G4 in for TechTV(I'm on comcast and for some reason don't get TechTV but all the other digital channels). They have more programming per day compared to G4.

  62. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Right. With their 7.4% of the company, they control the entire direction of the company.

    Maybe Comcast simply wanted to branch out into more fields, like movie-making and distribution? Getting a piece of the action that the stations themselves pay for the rights to air a given movie or show would be rather nice for the bottom line.

    Or maybe... just maybe... the head of Comcast (whose name eludes me right now and who reportedly runs things pretty much on his own) wants to turn Disney back to what it was. Some people -- even CEOs -- do have fond memories of what Disney was at one time.

    Oh, wait... This is Slashdot. Let me adjust my words for the benefit of the community.

    COMCAST IS IN IT TO RULE THE WORLD! THE HEAD OF COMCAST HAS A COLD LUMP OF LEAD FOR A HEART AND IS INTERESTED ONLY IN THE BOTTOM LINE! HE IS EVIL AND MUST BE STOPPED!!!

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  63. Speaking of Comcast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speaking of Comcast...Myself and several others that I know have experienced the following situation:

    Months after moving and promptly cancelling cable/broadband service we have received letters from credit collection agencies informing us that we owe comcast money. Seems to come from charges occuring after cancelling service.

    So now not only do we owe them money, but our debt is recorded on our credit as non-payment.

    Anyone else out there have this problem?

    1. Re:Speaking of Comcast... by SnappleMaster · · Score: 1

      Funny... I'm going through this right now with Verizon. Apparently their DSL provider screwed up and didn't cancel our account so they keep submitting bills to Verizon. And because Verizon is so clever they keep sending us bills even though they know the account is closed.

      As far as customer service goes, it seems all corporations suck these days.

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  64. new channel lineup? by nstrom · · Score: 1

    I have Comcast (have had them since they bought Storer Cable back in 1988), but have never gotten (or even seen) TechTV. Maybe they'll add it to my channel lineup, it sounds like an interesting channel.

  65. Charter Cable's only redeeming quality... by Ayaress · · Score: 1

    Is that Tech TV is basic cable here (Channel 18 in the Saginaw area). They had it splitting time with some lame government access channel going all the way back to when it was ZD-TV, but about a year ago maybe, they stopped cutting it out, and it's full time now.

  66. I like Robot Wars, what's your problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the matter with robot wars? Do you really expect the media to cater to the needs of nerds (and now, on nbc, steven hawkins on theories of black hole string formation?) They would rather have wall to wall cop shows type programming till the sun goes nova (oops) [tune in next week: don't miss the sun going nova!!, here on spike tv! boy, that could cause it to get hot on survivor!! Ha Ha!..]

  67. Say goodbye. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If your a current DirecTV subscriber like I am, you can probably kiss Tech TV goodbye. Comcast is a partner with the Dish network who have agreed to show TechTV to their subscribers. This means that unless DirecTV has a strong long-term contract for TechTV program, your SOOL.

  68. TechTV is for neophytes (-5 troll) by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 0, Troll

    People that follow the advice they peddle on Screen Savers are heading for trouble.

    TechTV should go the way of the dinosaurs...

    IMO...

    1. Re:TechTV is for neophytes (-5 troll) by SydShamino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      TechTV has recently covered several issues the night before they are posted to slashdot. (Including the "tech news" part of TSS.)

      If TechTV needs to go, then Slashdot should go too...

      (Besides, we all know that people who follow the advice peddled on Slashdot are equally heading for trouble.)

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      It doesn't hurt to be nice.
    2. Re:TechTV is for neophytes (-5 troll) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TechTV is the Slashdot of television.

      At least on TSS, we get to see and hear Lawrence Lessig, Steve Wozniak, Kevin Mitnick, etc. every once in awhile. They seem to be the only place on TV pointing out the flaws and talking critically about things like CSS, DMCA, the RIAA, Open Source, Microsoft, etc.

      For the rest of us that don't have the time to do much more than hit Slashdot a couple of times a day and browse Google News or Yahoo News slightly, it is nice that TechTV and TSS are there.

      I like Leo Laporte. He is at least open-minded about things, acknowledging that things like Macs, Linux, etc. exist and giving them some props.

      Too many of the geek lists (Scot's Newsletter, The Langa List, etc) do play some lip service to Windows XP alternatives, but more often than not, their only solutions to Windows XP's warts and problems is either wait for the patch from Microsoft or use 3rd-party software for XP, not really pressing that the problems are just inherent to Windows, Outlook and IE, and are not problems with other OSs (Linux, *BSD, OSX) or applications (Mozilla et al.).

    3. Re:TechTV is for neophytes (-5 troll) by 0racle · · Score: 1

      Personally I'd never watch TechTV in a perfect world, but TSS and some other stuff, usually X-Play come on when nothing else I want to watch is on.

      Other then some interesting stuff, such as the short history of data storage they had on recently, there's just a lot of bad advice going on there. I remember one person calling in after a power outage and the system wouldn't come back on. In fact I had this happen here not long ago. How did i fix it, just flip the switch on the power supply of then on again, and everything's fine. What was their suggestion? Format. without trying anything else they declared the drive corrupted and everything was gone.

      They're just about as clueless as your every day user, and the computer is just as much a magical box to them as it is to Bob on the corner. The only difference is they've convinced themselves that they 'know' and its just dangerous.

      --
      "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
  69. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by cens0r · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wrong. It was started by Ziff Davis. I actually had DirecTV and watched the launch. It was called ZDTV at the time. It was sold to Paul Allen and renamed TechTV

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  70. The irony is... by Newer+Guy · · Score: 1

    The irony is that right now, Tech TV is owned by Vulcan Ventures....which in turn is owned by Paul Allen....

  71. I for one by fromtheblueline · · Score: 1, Funny

    I for one welcome our new Comcast overlords!

  72. As long as I can watch "Thunderbirds" by Marko+DeBeeste · · Score: 2, Funny

    I't "FAB" with me

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    Faith: n. -- That human impulse that drives them to steal appliances when the power goes out
  73. pfft ... Tech TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm holding out for the perl programming channel (PPC).

  74. Disney and the RIAA -- you're not too far off. by jfisherwa · · Score: 1

    Anyone who hasn't seen the "EZ-Jackster" episode of "The Proud Family" that Disney aired, should definitely try to hunt it down. (you can probably find it on your better P2P services ;))

    It portrays a girl using a P2P service (EZ-Jackster) to effectively bringing down capitalism as we know it. Even the news anchor loses her job and subsequently blames the girl and EZ-Jackster for it.

    The entire episode touches on a controversial subject with subtlety of this satiric image.

    See this NewsForge article for more information.

  75. DirecTV going to keep it? by EvilStein · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Or will Comcast pull it from DirecTV in another lame ploy to get us all to subscribe to lame ass "digital cable?"

    We all know how wonderful Comcast's "customer service" has been...

  76. I have TechTV, but haven't watched it in months by Space_Soldier · · Score: 0

    I am interested in G4 TV but don't have it. It will be cool if TechTV merged with G4, and got rid of stupid programming like Unscrewed. I only watch TechTV when they have sweepstakes, and even then for just a few minutes since they use the same times to show the codes. TechTV is just plain boring.

  77. Re:Leo Laporte by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The better somebody is at being a geek, the worse said person is at appearing on TV. Leo's interruptions are mostly of the nature of keeping the guest on topic and on pace, which is the responsiblity of any TV host. Sometimes, you've just got to cut the guest off because letting them ramble is even worse TV.

  78. Paul Allen owns TechTV now... by Newer+Guy · · Score: 1

    And as anyone who's ever wrked for him knows, he's a one trick pony (Microsoft). Basically everything else he's owned he's screwed up. This is very good news indeed....

  79. Personally... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...I can't stand TechTV. It's the biggest example of "armchair techie" pandering around. You can't watch TechTV and expect to learn anything from it that's of any use unless you're a typical home user or hobbyist. When I first got DirecTV, I was hoping that TechTV would be less consumer oriented and more technology oriented. But most of what they feature on their programming is very boring and old news. Then their non-technology programming blows pretty hard too. I mean, Thunderbirds? Come on! Why not feature good SciFi that is truly "geek worthy". Doctor Who comes to mind. Anyway.. I imagine TechTV will go from worse to hellish. Fortunately I don't watch much TV these days and I NEVER watch TechTV.

    1. Re:Personally... by OneFix · · Score: 1

      TechTV excels at some things you can't get through other mediums...

      1) Things that require or are enhanced by video and/or audio...reviews, video editing, and how-tos/tips...

      You may not mind downloading 100 megs of video files to see the newest game, but I would much prefer a 2 minute review...

      Tips & Tricks just come across better...screenshots aren't always the best way to demonstrate complex methods.

      Product reviews are better...looking for a notebook??? They can review an Alienware or Dell (something most won't have access to) and show you the size, performance, and quality fairly easily...still photos and benchmarks just don't always tell you the whole story...

      2) They can cut through the crap...unlike sites that include any and every new piece of software available, they can review the top software and can suggest new apps that you might never try had you not seen it...

      3) They can get interviews and guests in a medium they arent always seen...

      4) As most of my time is spent in Linux/UNIX at work and home, it's the only place that I generally get to see any info on Windoze or Macs outside of slashdot and problem reports (web and mail servers)...so I can be informed of new apps or userland problems that need addressed on friends and familys peecees...

  80. Just like "The Site"... by kherr · · Score: 2, Insightful
    From the Yahoo article (emphasis added):
    Charles Hirschhorn, founder and CEO of G4, will be the CEO of the combined network. "This merger is a win for G4; a win for TechTV; and a win for our advertising and affiliate partners," said Hirschhorn.
    Seems to have left out mention of the viewers. Guess it's not a win for us. Will it be like MSNBC and "The Site" all over again? Screw the intelligent programming, let's pander to product placement and marketing!
  81. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by kiwimate · · Score: 1

    Right! Because heaven knows MSNBC never covers anything of interest to Slashdot readers.

    Wow...stories on SCO suing AutoZone, HP launching Linux-based PCs worldwide, GFI's Linux development plans, Novell and SuSE, more SCO, EV1 and SCO, etc., etc. Heck, I'm not entirely sure all of these stories were on /. Does this mean MSNBC is more Linux-oriented than /. now? Woo-hoo...umm...bugger.

  82. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by LilMikey · · Score: 1

    Or Fox, who covers all of the anti-Republican news stories just like the rest of the media... just in their own way.

    Yeah, that was meant to be a joke.

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  83. Here's a source for hard tech info by Isao · · Score: 3, Informative
    There is such a station. It's called the Research Channel.

    It's available free in the U.S. on Dish Network (channel 9400), many cable networks or direct from Ku-band satellite on Galaxy 10R (11.805GHz, Horizontal, 4580ksym/sec).

    Straight from the lab to your living room.

  84. So that is why my cable bill went up! by krgallagher · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know I don't get it. Here is a company that cann afford to pay cash for Disney, but they cannot get my billing account and my ISP login synchonized so that I do not have to use two different login names and passwords.

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  85. Re:Leo Laporte by metal_priest · · Score: 1

    Yes, I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about him. The guy was clueless and yet would keep interrupting smarter people with his dumb comments. Leo was the most annoying thing about techtv. Him and the annoying young fella(his son?).

  86. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by homerules · · Score: 1

    A fellow named Paul Allen owns Vulcan Programming which owns(ed) Tech TV. That never stopped them from bashing M$.

  87. Actually... by artemis67 · · Score: 1

    MSNBC is totally inaccessible with Safari in Mac OS X, and has been for a few months. It wasn't my home page, but I did check it at least once a day, and I used to love to view the "Week in Pictures" feature, but that one has been inaccessible to Safari users for even longer.

    IE for Mac will load MSNBC, but it takes a long, long time and it refreshes the page many times before it's done.

    When it first came out, I had no problems whatsoever viewing MSNBC with Safari.

    1. Re:Actually... by captainktainer · · Score: 1

      Mozilla works fine for me. I'd recommend considering using Mozilla 1.7beta (faster than ever) or Firefox for OSX for at least part of your surfing schedule.

    2. Re:Actually... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Uh. Slashdot needs a moderation -1 Wrong.

      Safari can view msnbc.com just fine. It's not the most beautiful render in the world, but everything is functional including the Javascript menus and the Week in Pictures feature you mention. Here are some screen shots of it on my iBook, using the most recent Safari and OS X versions:

      Main Page

      Week in Photos

      Any problems you're having have nothing to do with either MSNBC or Apple in general... it's your comp, bud.

    3. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh. Somebody needs to moderate you -1 Redundant.

  88. Re:TechTV + G4... should have happened years ago.. by cens0r · · Score: 1

    I'll agree with everything you said, minus TSS repeats. Until TechTV gets a seperate west coast feed, the repeats are important. They did away with them for a while, and I simply stopped watching the channel.

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  89. TechTv is good.. by thebra · · Score: 1

    but they should get some less annoying hosts. I understand the topic is computers/technology but Patrick seems mad at everyone and that one younger guy with the curly hair is just plain annoying. I haven't watched it in a while so I'm not positive they are still on.

  90. Re:Leo Laporte by therealseadawg · · Score: 1

    i absolutely agree. sure, he has personality, but it just makes him a laughing stock. all that comes to mind are images of leo assing around while patrick tries to answer a good question. however, when there is a completely moronic question, he sure does take the reigns, doesn't he.
    leo would probably make an awesome junior high school teacher, just keep him off tv.

  91. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by no_space_in_time · · Score: 1

    It's Vulcan that's selling to Comcast. Vulcan=Paul Allen. Remember him?

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  92. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by flea69 · · Score: 0

    Regardless...my point was Paul Allen co-founder of Microsoft was the owner and they constantly bash Microsoft on the Screen Savers...so the orginal posters fears of conspiricy are unfounded. started...owned... it's a moot point to the thread.

  93. Comcast, baby! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LET'S GO FLYERS! Going all the way to FRIGGIN STANLEY CUP! And JR returns to tonight...

  94. TechTV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually on Charter cable in Connecticut TechTV is on channel 66, regular non-digital cable. About a year ago it was on the digital channels but I guess it got really popular.

  95. Next on DSC: UFOs, invaders or explorers? by frankie · · Score: 1
    you think Discovery Channel (and its progeny) are hardcore science/history/etc.?

    Yeah, sheesh. Discovery Channel maintains breathless "news" pages about critters like the freakin Goat Sucker ! Gee, that's a clear sign of serious science journalism. They're a bit more accurate than Weekly World News, but not by much.

  96. awesome by fresh27 · · Score: 1

    i was planning on calling comcast this week and asking why they dont have techtv. every time i head into NYC thats my favorite station to watch.

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  97. Re:TechTV + G4... should have happened years ago.. by LostCluster · · Score: 1

    This is one interesting prospect opened up by the G4 merger. Eventually, when the two stations combine into one, they're going to have a leftover C-Band transponder lease and quite a bit of master control equipment... They very well could create a west coast feed since they'd already be halfway there...

  98. TechTV logo animation... by LaTechTech · · Score: 1

    As long as they tone down the TechTV logo animation I'll be happy...It gets annoying after a while. After all, I might forget what I was watching...riGHT!?!

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  99. tech tv sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it sucks about as hard as slashdot does. tech tv stories are about as lame as /. stories are. i wouldn't watch it even if it was on basic cable

    only two good things about tech tv. sarah lane, and cat's boobs. and yes, all you geeks have searched for cat's boobs online.

  100. Re:TechTV + G4... should have happened years ago.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    and the news department seemed to ship everyone off to CNN.


    Oh yeah.. Remember Erica Hill! She went from Techlive to CNN Headline News.. Man she is hot!

    At least TechTV still has Sarah Lane....for now anyways.

  101. John Dvorak, Silicon Spin by Durandel1020 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I used to love this show and then it disappeared from the TechTV lineup a few years ago. John would moderate discussion between industry experts on a particular topic. And then he would grill them with his own questions. It was always interesting.

    Id rather see more programming like this on the channel but I think those days are long gone.

    I think TechTV needs more veterens like Dvorak. We know Leo isnt necessarily leaving the lineup, but who knows what in store for us.

    Maybe they will bring some talent on board and make some interesting shows.

    1. Re:John Dvorak, Silicon Spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes it was fantastic. It was the "McLaughlin Group" of Tech News. I wish that show was still there.

      Dvorak also had an interview show called Big Thinkers (which was interesting) but, it morphed into a documentary show (which actually was very well produced, I must admit). Big Thinkers would put together a great package on guests like futurist Alvin Toffler on the Third Wave and FutureShock, Law Professor Lawrence Lessig on Copyright in the Media Age, Michio Kaku on String Theory. Some great shows.

      I would enjoy any of those shows right now.

  102. Damn by jridley · · Score: 1

    I guess I better start taping Robot Wars then...

  103. 1975! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has been 29 years since the Flyers won the Cup.

    It will be at least another 29 before they do again.

    Loser.

    1. Re:1975! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, you are a Devils fan or a Leafs fan. So either your from New Jersey or Canada... Either way, eat shit and die.

  104. Paul Allen luckiest man alive... by barfy · · Score: 1

    Founder's Shares of Microsoft... yummm...

    Paul Allen is about the worst business man and biggest loser of money the world has ever known. From Asymetrix, His Dot.com ventures, Cable Companies, TV shows, and Sports teams, have just about all lost TONS of money, and Shareholder value. Just like you should always invest in what Buffet buys, you should always short whatever Allen buys...

    About the only thing he does reasonably well on is RE. But that is because he constantly bullies the local governments to fund huge portions of his property and infrastructure. And if he doesn't get his way, he sells and moves on.

    If he hadn't had the right friend at the right time, he would have been a very average person in the world.

  105. I like Robot Wars! by CityZen · · Score: 1

    Okay, so I could do without some of the grandstanding that goes on, but I like to see the various robot designs and how they stack up against each other. Maximum carnage!

    Here's my idea for a killer robot design: make a 2-wheeled "stinger" type design that can move around while still spinning. You'd need some computer control to modulate the motors, and perhaps some kind of tracking system such that the robot can tell which way it's facing. But this would overcome the biggest weakness of this design: the fact that it can't move while executing a spin attack.

  106. Goodbye Leo.... by chadm1967 · · Score: 0

    I think this is a good thing. I really liked Leo when the show first started years back but, lately, he's become really annoying.

  107. I must be the only one... by Pizzop · · Score: 1

    I must be the only one who's angered by this, because I actually WATCH g4, and I'm going to miss all the shows. It really sucks that they are going to merge them, because G4 was the one reason I kept the extended cable. Now it's going to be filled screen savers and random other crap when all I want to do is watch Filter.

    1. Re:I must be the only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just hope they keep g4tv.com. I loved the two hot chicks + video game reviews/news/interviews with developers/answering questions from people in live chat room

  108. And on the show... top 5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    5. Hay/straw hybrid glued all over and sticking out of the case - don't leave the computer on for too long.

    4. A computer case made out of cardboard

    3. Moss glued all over the inside of the case, bringing a nice, wet, musty flare to your computer.

    2. Replacing of fans with cool LEDs. Again, make sure to not leave it on for too long.

    (wait for it)

    1. Your hard drive set on top of the case with the metal case removed, your motherboard painted orange with latex paint, and random pieces of the motherboard replaced by cut out pieces of your OTHER computer.

    Sadly, every one of the above is inspired by a real event on Trading Spaces.

  109. Works for me... by NeoBeans · · Score: 1
    MSNBC works fine for me on OS X 10.3.3 with Safari 1.2.1.

    Granted, I don't spend a lot of time there...

  110. You Will Be Assimilated by Detritus · · Score: 1

    Comcast, and other major cable providers, plan to move all channels to digital cable. It's just a question of timing. Analog cable is going to disappear. The last I heard, they are waiting for the price of digital cable boxes to decline to the point where they can afford to give them to all of their analog customers.

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  111. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by Unoti · · Score: 1
    You're 100% right. I recently quit going to Slashdot every day because I wasn't getting enough SCO coverage. I go to MSN to get the full load of MS and SCO dirt every day.

    (But when I want information on XFree86, I do need to go elsewhere before doing the search.)

  112. TechTV roxored.... by LilMikey · · Score: 1

    when they were ZDTV. I still watch it constantly but they all seem overly commercialized and a good bit dumber now. In the ZDTV days it was pretty much Leo, a TV with a computer, and some wanker answering phones. Them were the days... although Leo wasn't exactly a brain surgeon back then either.

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  113. What I want to know is.... by dukarukus · · Score: 1, Interesting

    WTF happened to the "Thunderbirds" !!???

    I use to watch it every night at 10pm CST.
    TechTv hasn't been the same for me since they dropped "unscrewed" in its place.

    who doesn't like marionettes ? let alone, super spy world savior marionettes and their kickass model ships ?

    and, that "pop-up-video" style information was great.

    duk

  114. Re:Leo Laporte by swanky · · Score: 1

    I think Leo is a good TV host where he usually jumps in to help inform viewers who may not know what guests, etc. are talking about.

    It's Patrick Norton's inarticulateness that annoys me more...he'd start talking about something cool, then would usually just mumble his way through without explaining why it's cool, etc.

    I'd prefer a Leo, Kevin combination.

  115. Im Glad by ike6116 · · Score: 1

    As much as I respect Leo, he is making a good move. I think Kevin Rose, of the broken fame, being in the driver's seat a bit more will be good. Leo is still on TechTV but I think gracefully passing the torch reflects well on his character.

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  116. You should chat with your apartment's super... by shepd · · Score: 1

    DirecTV (and other satellite companies) will often work with supers and landlords to get distribution in apartment buildings. It's dead easy to do, assuming the builder didn't cheap out on the building's cabling.

    Just an idea... :-)

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  117. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by AS400+Hacker · · Score: 1
    ...since Microsoft owns quite a chunk of Comcast, once this deal goes through you will have heard the last of any criticism of Microsoft or their products on TechTV.


    Well since Paul Allen Currently owns TechTV I don't see why that should be any different.
  118. Re:Leo Laporte by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Leo Laporte keeps interrupting people cuz he is an attention whore.

  119. Could be good by dthree · · Score: 1

    They could potentially have a good channel once they throw away all of the crappy stuff from each network. They might even have enough content to avoid the amazing repetition of g4. Although the informercials would probably have to stay.

    Current, I can't get techtv, even though nearby counties have it. Since I get G4, I'm hoping that now I'll get the "combined" channel.

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  120. Robot Wars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope they take Radio Controlled Wars, I mean Robot Wars, off the air.
    Why not just scrap any show that has the word wars in it. Then that would include JunkYard Wars.

  121. Robot wars and The Screen Savers by jjackson · · Score: 1

    Hmm. personally I get a kick out of Robot Wars (and so does my son) and think The Screen Savers sucks. There's a hell of a lot more technology involved in building any one of the robots than they cover in several seasons of The Screen Savers. However, I probably appreciate it more because of the amount of time I have spent using a solding iron and watching my father (who works as a metal fabricator and owns a complete metal shop for restoring old hot rods).

    Drives me nuts when someone asks me if I watch the screen savers (usually refered to as "TSS" in chats and emails) because I am "into computers".

    I just can't respect a show that is commonly refered to by a set of initials that also happens to also refer to Toxic Shock Syndrom. Tampon TV.

  122. TV Quality by fm6 · · Score: 1
    I guess Comcast does OK as an ISP. At least from the technical side -- some of their business practices leave something to be desired.

    But when you say "Quality" in connection with TV, you usually quality of content. As in this case. Alas, those who are hoping that Comcast will raise the quality of the programming on TechTV are too optimistic. Comcast, like other media monopolies, doesn't like to spend a lot of money on programming. So more reality shows. But it's about robots, so it's a tech reality show, so that's OK!

  123. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Paul Allen cashed out of Microsoft just as it started getting real evil. He's sort of like Woz to Bill Gates' Jobs. Although I twinge when ever I hear the "co-founder of Microsoft", he actually seems like a pretty cool guy. He opened up a Rock museum in Seatle, and he's setting up his own SETI radio telescope array.

  124. TechTV - one of a kind by mabu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As much bashing as TechTV has received here, and I agree that some of their programming, like robot wars, was lame, it still was IMO, the best network of its kind. If Comcast takes it over, it will go downhill fast.

    One thing I really respected was their desire to not edit out their own computer problems. Someone would call in with a Windows question, and their computer would crash on-air -- and they felt it important to let others see that they too, had problems with blue screens of death and things not working properly. You can bet that Paul Allen's crew will edit out these segments so that everyone who watches will see a flawless computer presentation and therefore think the problems they're having are their fault, and not the result of crappy software.

    The TechTV crew are very honest folks that don't bow to the current corporate flavor. I saw them test three brands of wireless push-to-talk devices and they had no reservations about saying which ones sucked and which ones worked. That's refreshing. I guess now we'll see a big string of washed up celebrities going on the show to hawk their latest flop, peppered with more over-hyped software and hardward so that it will be a Tech-ized version of Entertainment Tonite. Oh well. Buh bye TechTV.

    1. Re:TechTV - one of a kind by dmv · · Score: 1

      Wait, what? You can bet that Paul Allen's crew will edit out these segments... um. This article was about Vulcan Ventures (Paul Allen) selling TechTV. Those things you loved about the show were while Paul Allen could have made those edits. It now goes out of his hands. Sheesh.

    2. Re:TechTV - one of a kind by mabu · · Score: 1

      Ahh, I stand corrected. I thought that he had originally owned it so I'm not sure what I was thinking, but for sure, you can bet if they do have new owners, the show's honesty will be lobotomized.

  125. techTV should be renamed to abreasTechTV by nxs212 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I haven't watched TechTV for the last two years and was shocked when I saw their new "lineup"!
    Every single show had girls with big breasts that were prominently displayed. Girls with smaller breasts looked like they were stuffing and wearing push-up bras.
    I guess they misunderstood new management's directive to "keep abreast of science and technology"

  126. maybe i can watch it now... by JeremyFlavored · · Score: 1

    i always have to catch techtv when i'm at home or at my girlfriends house...it's not available up at college. i even went as far as emailing the comcast powers at be...no success maybe it'll be added now that they own it...hopefully

  127. I liked the "Lockergnome freak"-whatever that is by gadlaw · · Score: 1

    See, I love Tech TV, I'm watching it right now actually. It's fun and enlightening. I have no idea what a "Lockergnome freak' is but whatever it is I must be one as well because I liked him just fine and was not happy when Leo replaced him. Part of the reason I liked him as a host was because, as my son said, he's a real person. Not a pretty boy, not a talking head with nothing to say but an actual smart person. A real geek. Probably the kind of fellow who wouldn't call another person a name like a 'Lockergnome'

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  128. TechTV steals /. Content by alecks · · Score: 1

    I've noticed this SOO many times... i'll read my daily slashdot, and later that night or the next, I'll hear about the news on TechLive or such..... I bet the producers come here for their daily meat.

    1. Re:TechTV steals /. Content by ev1lcanuck · · Score: 1
      A lot of the times on TSS they will just say "Slashdot is reporting that..." At least they're honest when they steal information as opposed to the mainstream news channels such as NBC who put little tags in the corner of the screen saying "AP" because they are required to.

      Besides, I like the little photoshopped pictures that accompany the stories.

  129. Re:I liked the "Lockergnome freak"-whatever that i by gamgee5273 · · Score: 2
    No, he wouldn't call another person a Lockergnome - he calls himself Lockergnome.

    Leo started Call for Help years ago, and was the original host, and Chris Pirillo was Leo's hand-picked choice for the show. But Pirillo, the freak of Lockergnomishness I speak of, was utterly annoying on the show. I have only turned off the TV faster for Dubya when Pirillo would come on.

    I'm not asking for a pretty boy, but I am asking for someone who stays within the bounds of the conversation and off of tangents, which Pirillo had problems with.

  130. TechTV, continuing further downhill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their original shows dropped like flies in recent years and most of their on-air talent got the ax. Now its just a bunch of BBC shows + the Screen Savers and Tech Live. Some of the BBC stuff is fine, but, FFM and Robot Wars are boring and rerun 50 times a day.

    The Screen Savers has also gone downhill. It was much better when Martin Sargent, Megan Morrone and Morgan Webb were on it. Its too bad to watch it slowly die out.

    X-Play used to be good when Kate Botello was on it. Now, it sucks, because they've made the mistake of doing unfunny skits and trying to get laughs at Adam Sessler's expense.

  131. Re:John Dvorak, Silicon Spin - Apple haters by adzoox · · Score: 1
    DVorak is and was the "one" who always tried to put a death nail in Apple. He would say every couple of months they were dying. He also announced the death of firewire - well - that was BEFORE the killer hardware applications like the iSight and iPod.

    He was really off base with a lot of his commentary - but it was interesting to hear.

    I believe Apple had a key role in he and that obnoxious "loderback" guy getting off the air at Tech TV.

    Can anyone tell me too why they think Morgan Webb is so pretty? She has that "down's syndrome" look - IMHO.

    Also the chemistry between show hosts is SO fake it's comical - Patrick and Leo (screensavers) - try too hard to bee funny - Leo Laporte is a good guy and knowledgeable - Patrick is just an "a**"

    Where is the emmy winning show "eye drops"?

    I do agree with other posts here - they steal a lot from slashdot - but to be fair they've had Taco on a few times I think.

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  132. As long as by Quixadhal · · Score: 1

    As long as they carry the uncensored Women of TechTV, I welcome our new Comcast overlords!

  133. Unless you're Rick James-Freak an Insult by gadlaw · · Score: 1

    We can agree to disagree about the worth of Chris Prillo as a host. I thought he was better than fine and I appreciated how very good he was with answers to questions given to him on the fly. The things you didn't like about him were perhaps things that I found more interesting than the usual teleprompter reading person. In any event, thanks for the link and the information I didn't know. I still think calling anyone a 'freak' is a bit too harsh.

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    1. Re:Unless you're Rick James-Freak an Insult by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1
      In YOUR opinion. "Freak" is a throwaway word any longer. We are not conjuring images of Tod Browning's Freaks any longer. Instead, it is actually taking the word and using it within the BOF (Brotherhood of Freaks; those of us who were "blessed" with the monikers of "freak," "geek," and "nerd" in school). When I call him a "freak," it's more of a term of endearment... I'm not saying he's the bearded lady.

      No, Pirillo was too much of a geek. CFH is not for the same audience as TSS, something too many people around here have never understood. CFH is for people like my mother, not people like me. Just like the iPod mini is for people like my wife, but not me. We geeks have to get it through our heads that the digital divide is vast, and people like Pirillo, who spoke over peoples' heads way too often, shouldn't be hosting something like CFH.

      Don't get me wrong - when Pirillo was on TSS for guest segments, I had no issue with him. There is nothing wrong with being a freak - just be a freak in the proper environment. If Pirillo wants to run amok on the TSS set, let him. If he was to become TSS host, I might actually put it back on my TiVO Season Pass Manager (I deleted the TSS entry last night after watching Leo verify he is leaving and last night was his last show as host).

      However, this all comes down to CFH: Leo is best as that show's host - he always has been. Becky Worley, Prillio, etc., have never really been able to look at the camera and soothe a panicky user the way Leo can. That's a vital ability on a show like CFH. Again, if you post on /. then CFH is not a show for you (though I am going to TiVO a few of the new shows to see what changes Leo is bringing to it). CFH is for the people who really need help with things like formatting hard drives and user their "coffee cup holders" correctly. With Leo in charge (and he has been for a while), the show can only continue to get better.

  134. Robot Wars sucks the shit out of a dead man's ass by drfreak · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    When I saw Craig as the star, I thought it might be worth checking out. Now I can't even watch Red Dwarf without thinking about his terrible career move and how it has ruined my respect for him and TechTV.

  135. The show will now be boring and inaccurate by CapS · · Score: 1

    Now that Leo's leaving, I have a feeling most of the stuff they talk about is going to be inaccurate, especially when it comes to UNIX/Linux and Mac stuff. Already they say a few incorrect things every day, and hardly ever mention (better) Linux or Mac alternatives to Windows software packages that they cover.

    We'll probably see more really bad Windows tips (who cares about IE?). And more of Patrick Norton, ugh. I think the show jumped the shark when he became a full-time host. While he knows standard Windows programs, he's really lacking in his Linux and Mac knowledge, and he's certainly not very entertaining to watch.

    1. Re:The show will now be boring and inaccurate by gerardrj · · Score: 1

      Loud mouth Leo is one of the most inaccurate people on the show... he spouts more wrong answers than all the others combined.
      Frankly I look forward to the days he's not there so I can get some real information.

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  136. Re:Patrick Norton - no way! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You guys must be nuts. Patrick Norton is terrible--he knows very little about Windows stuff, he knows nothing about Linux, and he doesn't know what he's talking about most of the time. I remember when he first joined the show--he was recommending Windows ME, and saying how great it was. I couldn't believe it. I recall him making other recommendations and saying other things that were outright wrong.

    If Patrick were a true geek, I'd be all for him being on the show. But as it is, it seems the only person who has a very good all-around geek knowledge is Leo--at least there is some balance on the show when Leo is there.

    When Leo leaves, I have no idea what they're going to do. It certainly won't be the same show.

  137. Morgan Webb triple penetration pics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm suprised they don't fire that nasty whore.

  138. The beginning of the end? by rec9140 · · Score: 1

    This may well be the beginning of the end.

    1) Leo cuts back to CfH, then quits Cfh (Probably is seeing the writing on the wall.)

    2) Talent LOSS MUST stop. TT has lost 2 fantastic anchors Erica Hill & Sumi Das to other media. Need to keep the talent to keep the people watching.

    3) Comcrap hates DBS and BUD, thats why the regional sports channel in the Philadelphia area is distibuted via microwave or fiber. Thus comcrap doesn't have to share with DBS. I look for this to happen w/ TT as each contract with the cable MSO's, DBS and regional carriers come up for renewal, w/exception of comcrap areas.

    4) Better programming! SS, CfH great. As for the anime DUMP IT! robot wars/battle DUMP IT! Bring back Max Headroom ! XPlay - DUMP IT! PLEASE! Put Morgan back on SS or some place else, but shows about games need to go. FFM, Spy School, Conspiraces, Wired for Sex all good. Now as for Martin Sargent, So long as he stays where he is and OFF SS and other shows he stay. In the "Late Night" format he's fine, but in any other area he doesn't belong. I am not a fan, but can deal with the show where it is now.

    5) STORY REPEATS! ! STALE NEWS! TechLive needs to cease immediatley padding their shows with reruns of stories from previous shows. TL also needs to quit discussing movies, MOST ESPECIALLY I am sick and tired of hearing about bullet time, any thing related to matrix, and lord whatever, disney, nemo, animated any thing. I am not interested in these crap books and/or movies. They are not worth the time spent on them, not they worth the awards nominated or received by them. Same goes for ipods, overpricesd. My $30 cd player does just fine at playing CD's and MP3 CD's in the car and at the beach.

    A daily TechNews Cast, which I know TL is trying so hard to be, but is not cutting it.

    Now about those commercials. If I see one more ditech, diet pill or some other related scammercial I am going to die. I am sick of hearing about it. Also that stupid commercial for training with the klaxon blowing, annoying!

    I don't know what G4 was/is but if its related to gaming, my days of watching TT may be over shortly.

    More shows on home automation, home technology like power cells, solar panels, voip, how to set up this stuff and use, etc. (NO this has nothing to do about being a weeenie greenie.) Putting technology to work in the home for security and convienence.

    More Linux!

    A new software show that reviews and tests new software for the PC. (NOT GAMES! and NO MS software allowed, open source, shareware, freeware, and NON MS/Apple.)

    LESS MtraSh

    SS - LESS Case modding. I don't care that theres little LED's on the fans, or theres a neon light or anything else. All the PC's are stuck behind a desk, in a closest or buried behind something.

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  139. Like when Fox bought Speedvision by Rich+Klein · · Score: 1

    Gah. I hope for the best, but fear the worst. TechTV is one of the few channels I still watch occasionally. I sure hope Comcast doesn't screw it up.

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  140. Re:Leo Laporte by gerardrj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    YES!!!! Seriously, the guy NEVER let the person he was interviewing finish a thought. Leo always interrupts and gives, usually wrong, commentary on the subject.

    Like this:

    Leo: So John... how did you come up with the idea?

    John: Well, I was going to school at

    Leo: You went to University of hogwash right? What was that like in those days?

    John: I started at UoH for a semester, but graduated from Noplace Technical. Shortly after that I was working for a startup

    Leo: a startup, wow.... you must have been making the big bucks then, what were they doing?

    And it would just go on and on like that.

    It's SOOOOO nice when Patrick gets to do the interviews when Leo is away, the guest actually gets to speak.

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  141. Huh? by autopr0n · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with ticketmaster?

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  142. Re:Leo Laporte by gerardrj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Frankly I find all the "hosts" annoying to some degree

    Leo is by far the worst, ignorant, loud and he continually interrupts people smarter than he is.

    Patrick needs to stop saying "well, ya know what...." before or in the middle of every sentence

    Kevin needs to either learn more than on hand gesture, or stop doing it every 15 seconds

    Sarah needs to go away, or at least not be on screen. She's not very knowledgable and she's not very good eye candy, unlike Morgan, Jessica and Erica (or formerly Sumi and Sumi) who are both and then some.

    Yoshi should have his own segment at least a few times a week. The guy has some really neat ideas, but hearing them has always been impossible because he's always on screen with Leo the interruptor. But somebody does need to explain to Yoshi the difference between "mod" and "built from scratch".

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  143. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by mandalayx · · Score: 1

    Yes, but TechTV's outgoing owner is Vulcan Ventures, which is a VC firm that's mainly owned by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen. So, one link to MS out, another in. I don't think this is much of a net change at all from that perspective.

    It has been noted several times on this venerable website that Paul Allen was out of MS...way before it became the evil empire.

  144. Comcast, NO, it cant be true, NOOOOOOO by aka_big_wurm · · Score: 1

    Comcast took over AT&T for my cable provider, since then my cable service has been terrible.

    They better not rune TechTV, I know Leo is a busy man and I hope it was his choice to leave TSS.
    But I can easly see the ratings going down, I am a loyal fan so it will take a lot to get me to go away from TechTV

    Since I am a mostly paying comcast customer I am going to make sure they get my thought on this, and I sugguest that everone else does too.

    -BigWurm-

  145. Didn't Leo JUST host the show the other night?!?! by Phantom_24 · · Score: 1

    Or did I miss something?!?!

  146. Next cut - Patrick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd be happy to see Patrick leave. How many times can he say "basically" in one episode? Damn, that's tiring after a while.

    Oh, and to a lesser degree, "let's back up" gets overused, too.

  147. Comcast took away my TECH TV...Will I get it back? by JavaLord · · Score: 1

    About 2 years ago Comcast removed tech TV from the lineup where I live. People have called and bitched (and bitched and bitched, I know a girl there who does quality control for their "call up and bitch" line) but comcast doesn't care. They don't even offer Tech TV on Digital Cable where I am. Recently, they added them to on demand, so you can watch screen savers for like $3 a pop. Does this mean comcast will get off the cockboat and actually give us tech tv back, at least as a digital cable channel?

    I have to find it funny, because the girl I knew who worked there told me the reason tech tv was dropped from basic cable here was that they wanted too much money for the ratings they get....then comcast goes and buys them. LOL

  148. Tech TV crew ratings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Leo, great but his humor is a little weird.

    Dvorak. Brought some credibility. Even if you disliked him, he had some great opinions.

    Patrick, comes across as a know it all. Someday, he'll do us a favor and leave.

    Martin, what an idiot. I can't believe he has his own show. I can't wait for it to be dropped. Yuck. In the years I've been watching TechTV, I haven't figured out why he's there. Maybe he's funny to adolescents. I just don't get it. Wait a minute, my kids don't like him either.

    Morgan, nice tits, but annoying. I hate X Play now. I'm sure she's sweet. Thank God that awful dyed hair is gone. The show is so stilted. I liked it more with Kate and I'm not a Kate fan at all.

    Sessler. Weird, but he's good at what he does. Just get rid of Morgan, please. The X-Play format just doesn't work as well as the old show with Kate. Forced dialog. Just lame.

    Stephanie, cute.

    Chris Leary. Seems like a dumb jock type, but does a pretty good job.

    Pirillo rocked. Too bad he's gone. He gave the channel some credibility. He's very intelligent.

    Kevin. Well, I'm tired of the whole dark tip crap. It's getting old. I'm tired of the channel just trying to appeal to the rap loving lowest common denominator type. Oh, and "The Broken" is retarded. Jeez, it's him and Foo Foo now renamed double D or some stupid thinking they look cool drinking beer on the couch together and thinking I'm a cool rap fuck so I'll change my name and say wusup this is double d or some shit. Gag.

    Foo foo... See above.

    Swisher. Nice cans. I'd like to see her nude on the net. I'd do her. Yum yum. That said, I think Martin's show is trash.

    Sara. See Swisher minus the cans. But very cute. I don't know if she knows anything. Doesn't seem to. But she doesn't really need to in her position.

    Megan. I'd like her back. Not particularly cute or dynamic, but someone that I liked. She was cool to chat with.

    Yoshi. Dude looks better without the weight. Good case mods. Kinda interesting. He's ok. Not great.

    Cat. Cute and hot. But now that she's just some porno slut wannabe, I don't know. I'm just not interested now.

    Lab rats. Keep them in the lab.

    Shows

    Invent this. Great show, wish there were more episodes.

    Robot whatever. Let's kill the robot shows. It's on too often. Got too boring. I like robots a lot, but I turn off Tech TV as soon as I see them.

    Unscrewed. Stupid. What a lame show. Take someone that is mildly funny and assume he's qualified for a talk show. I've watched it a few times and it was so bad that I just generally turn it off. I feel insulted about it all. What a waste of electricity.

    Wired for Sex. Who fucking cares. Just sensationalistic shit. Are geeks really this hard up that they have to watch this show.

    My wife saw some tech tv a couple months ago. She wondered when they got so trashy. We don't watch it nearly as much because it's stupid and we'd rather not have the kids see the stuff. If I wanted trash TV, we could watch the networks for free. Most of us buy cable to get away from that kind of programming. We haven't banned it and do still watch some shows. My kids who used to watch it a lot don't even watch it. If anyone should be intrigued by all the sex stuff, it would be them at their age. They're bored with it all.

    If TSS sticks around, I wish they would get a director for the show that knew what he was doing. I'm tired of watching when they have guests like Bert Monroy where all the action is on the computer and the fucking director keeps cutting back to their faces and missing what they're doing. It drives me up a fucking wall. I don't give a rats ass if I see Leo, Patrick or Bert, when they're showing how to use some software, keep the fucking camera on the action PLEASE.

    1. Re:Tech TV crew ratings by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      I agree with nearly everything you said, except the Chris Pirillo part. Chris pushed Windoze so much that sometimes I thought he was on Microsoft's payroll.

      I guess the most irritating thing has to be the last one. Either the camera is pointing the wrong way, or they have some captioning at the bottom of the screen so that what they're trying to show is blocked. They never have got it right, maybe never will.

  149. My boss forces us to watch techtv at work.. by kai5263499 · · Score: 1

    ... so I'm a little biased as I have to listen to it AT LEAST 9 hours a day (and yes, it loops several times during that timeframe). Honestly, you'd think that they would have more than 2 hours of origional programming to show a week... Thanks all for the heads-up for the reruns tomorrow, I'll be sure to charge my headphones.

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    -Wes
    1. Re:My boss forces us to watch techtv at work.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paid to watch TechTV? So, your workplace hiring? LOL

  150. Business As Usual by CleverNickName · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I didn't see anything about viewers. In other words I suspect that your worries will turn out to be founded

    When I was at G4, The Viewers were the last thing on management's mind. There were some executives who actually had a great deal of contempt for "those stupid gamers."

    It's like that in most of television, though. The Viewer is just a potential sale for the advertiser. What The Viewer thinks just isn't important to The Company.

    In this age of mega-mergers and vertically integrated companies who control distribution and content, they don't have to give a flying fuck about The Viewer, so they don't.

    1. Re:Business As Usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What The Viewer thinks just isn't important to The Company.

      Why is this being modded up? Because it's Wil Wheaton? This has to be the stupidest comment I've ever read. According to Wil here's an industry that doesn't care about it's customers. If that were truly the case why don't they broadcast nothing but test patterns for 24 hours a day? They're cheap and since they don't care about customers or viewers then what's the problem right? According to Wil Wheaton, you'll watch what the networks put on no problem. FUCK YOU and your tired rhetoric.

    2. Re:Business As Usual by virg_mattes · · Score: 1

      > If that were truly the case why don't they broadcast nothing but test patterns for 24 hours a day? They're cheap and since they don't care about customers or viewers then what's the problem right?

      Because advertisers won't pay to run ads during test patterns. The point is that, if the viewers say they want something, and advertisers say something different, the bias is towards the advertisers, only limited by the possibility of losing viewership, which is more of an arcane science that you suspect. If the advertisers want something that's slightly different than the viewers want, then usually the content creators will go where the money is.

      Besides, it seems reasonable to take the word of a television actor over an anonymous coward in matters of how television works. He has credentials. What are yours?

      Virg

    3. Re:Business As Usual by Texas+Rose+on+Lava+L · · Score: 1

      According to Wil here's an industry that doesn't care about it's customers.

      Wrong. Remember that the TV networks' customers are the advertisers, not the viewers. The networks care very much about the things that are important to their customers (viewer demographics, ratings, etc.)

      Viewers aren't customers of the television industry any more than prisoners are the customers of the private prison industry.

    4. Re:Business As Usual by dolo666 · · Score: 1

      > When I was at G4, The Viewers were the last thing on management's mind. There were some executives who actually had a great deal of contempt for "those stupid gamers."

      Games publishers seek to secure games that gamers will want by getting the dev houses in their pocket (under johnny-gets-screwed contracts written by Dogbert); the game dev management seek to secure publishers with fat wallets and build the games that they think will achive this (not games that are actually innovative); designers seek to get licenses to make games with franchises like Hulk, Star Trek (hehe sorry "The Boy" but it had to be said!), or D&D, or Spiderman instead of making up their own cool shit; game devs seek jobs in good studios (with benefits and great reps), oh and they actually often *hate* making games for a living (they just like slacking and *playing* games, more than doing any real work or QC); games ship full of bugs as a result of this scheme.

      Gamers are becomming disillusioned as a result! The whole thing is going to start shrinking soon, but not before a few titles ship that are actually worth the money (because not all game devs are inept or threatened by their publishers daily, so there is HOPE).

      It *should* be: publishers wish to please gamers; game dev management seek to please dev staff; dev staff seek to create innovative and fun games to please their niche: (read: niche, not the masses at large)...

      Yes, some studios do handle things this way, but even with good titles, you get problems because of the reality of the gaming business.

  151. hmmm...I don't know by misterarizona · · Score: 1

    I was once a avid viewer of TechTV when it first came out and was struggling to exist. I was glad when it suceeded because I use to move around alot and it was nice to be able to watch The Screensavers in relativly small cable markets (like Danville, KY) Then it seemed all of a sudden, the programming quality went down the crapper. I always thought that the channel "had too much on its plate" so to speak. It kept the "flagship" programming, but changed formats/hosts so rapidly that it seemed to destroy it. Too hard to keep up with all those changes...Cute girls, though. I don't know if I like the idea of Comcast buying out TechTV though---I would almost rather have AOL-TW buy it...But I am glad it wasn't MS. The channel has been running so many MS/N ads lately I thought they had. BTW, I remember when Leo was the host of Call for Help....I really enjoyed that show when he was there. So they had to replace him with Chris Pirillo...what the hell happened to Chris anyway?

  152. Thank God by StikyPad · · Score: 1

    Oh thank God Leo's gone. I guess it's in every geek's nature to assume they know everything, but most of us don't wind up on TV bullshitting our way through callers questions. We post our bullshit answers here where they belong. On Slashdot.

    Now, if they could just get Morgan Webb to shut up and look bitty. Tig old bitty. I'm still waiting for the leg-cross swap ala Basic Instinct with all those skirts she wears. At least it's a reason to watch the otherwise worthless X-Play.

  153. Oh, hell no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back off of my man Adam. :)

    The guy does great reviews of games (unless he's biased, but then he always lets you KNOW that he's biased during the review), he's intelligent, he seems to have no shame which helps him to be very entertaining, he has a great sense of humor, I don't think I've ever used the word 'he' this many times in one sentence before...

    Sessler and Kate rocked. Sessler is entertaining by himself. Sessler and Morgan are a good team now that she has loosened up a bit.

    If Adam goes I go as X-Play is the only show I bother to catch on Tech-TV now.

  154. Completely Agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You hit the nail on the head.

    The show was great when it was Adam and Kate Botello, where they just reviewed games and made clever comments about them. Now, the show has completely lost its way. Morgan isn't even a gamer at all, how is it that she is reviewing games, other than the 2 obvious reasons the parent mentioned?

  155. Re:TechTV + G4... should have happened years ago.. by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

    Now that I'm counting them out: in its heyday, TechTV was airing TSS shows at at (Eastern): 7pm, 11pm, 3am and then 8:00am (moving to live news at 9:30am to cover the stock markets for the day). I can see your point on that. But, for a while (after they cut the show back to 60 minutes as opposed to 90), it seemed like the channel was all TSS or anime... sort of odd, IMHO, and that's where I got tired of the channel.

  156. Re:TechTV + G4... should have happened years ago.. by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

    I was always more partial to Sumi Das, myself, but I won't deny that Erica Hill is hot. :p

  157. Nasa TV in Houston... by mgbastard · · Score: 1

    I would LOVE to watch Nasa TV too. Too bad its not available in HOUSTON on analog cable (see proof). Until very recently, it wasn't even on Digital Cable. It's stuffed in with EWTN now.

    --
    Anyone seen my low uid? last seen 10 years ago while panning the #@$# out of Taco's 'web based discussion system'
  158. Re:TechTV + G4... should have happened years ago.. by DaytonCIM · · Score: 1

    Comcast should:

    1) Bring Wil back;
    2) Give Leo a big, fat payraise;
    3) Create a proper news department;
    4) Send all of the anime over to Anime Network.


    Ummm... HELL YEAH!

    Except,

    1) Wil burned his bridges with G4.

    2) From the news releases so far, it doesn't sound like G4 management is going to give anyone a raise. And considering how Leo has diversified his interests of late, I am not sure he'll even be a part of G4.

    3) OMG! Yes. ZDTV had a news dept that knew what the hell they were doing. TechTV seems to have lost all direction with their news dept. I just hope that G4 reports on more than just upcoming game releases and conventions.

    4) Yeah. Although it will very difficult to fill 24/7 programing without using infomercials and anime.

  159. Re:Leo Laporte by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    c'mon lets do a Pat interview:
    Pat: so basically your saying that basically Im better at interviews than leo?
    Guest: I'd better or you will hit me with that sledgehammer you macho techno guy
    Pat: cool
    Guest: Have you ever got in a fight..I mean with an animate object?
    Pat: Well basically one time in my parents basement i basically ..mumble mumble mumble
    Guest: what? So is your fiance a girl really?
    Pat: cool good stuff man you can check out more on cell phone ringtones at mumble mumble drool spit

  160. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by Glial · · Score: 1

    What?? Who the hell do you think Paul Allen is? Where did he get is billions?

  161. Two Words by dolo666 · · Score: 1

    Jerry Springer.