this seems to me just to be the dev station like SONY gave out for the PS2 (they call it something like PS2Tool)
big deal or not ?
o BIG deal at least the hardware is sort of final (can be changed but not likely) that means they taped out and just need to do mass production
o NOT does not say anything about the device or that it includes silicon from the PS3 or just running an emulator
o lets face it you can use all of the tools to do graphics like they do in the movies and games at the moment Maya, 3DS Max and games engines are pretty good about seperating out the display from the AI, sound, physics
now can someone actually give details like a block diagram of the chip ?
limited know how but wont it just be washy (i.e. smooth it rather than jump)
ogg is a good container I hope they use ogg because it should be variable bit rate...
I dont really undersand why dont they concentrate on doing what apple has done and create a Pixlet like codec that people can get 25-to-1 compression rates at high def (HD like 35mm people)
lets face it linux runs fine on the ARM platform but you need an interface
the interface is Java(VM)
it has nice security app's and works across all the vendors
Vodaphone shows that the networks like to control how the interface looks (branding)
so what matters is the display and what ODM like (easy to make work)
Microsoft have the fact that it works and is qualified many of the standards (dont screw up the network)
linux fails many of of the standards because it has not been put through the tests it needs vendor support in this !
and the BSP for OMAP with GSM is non existant this needs to be improved
WRS could win these easy for linux just by providing a JavaVM and various linux BSP's that support the standards (quality confirmed mate got to have it)
networks like Java and if people could come up with a nice java app to make them money (GPS/ location aware through cells) from ads/services then away you go
regards
John Jones
ALL miss the point: IPsec
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ok
all I really want is IPsec
(and maybe MobileIP)
imagine that all your IP conections are secure ! screw that crap 802.11 security just let the router only allow IPsec connections and if you want to lock it down ask for the machines keys and only allow these
why is this so hard ?
IPsec is in all modern linux *BSD *ix MacOS and Win2k WinXP (win98 with download util)
really I have not seen a laptop with a OS that could not use IPsec
they even ran a competition to build an app that used the GPS
not really looked at it to hard but it seems pretty nice I dont know where you are in the world but you should be able to import it use the java software and use a GSM provider of your choice
I got a P900 and its great if you want a full JVM (it has the personal edition akin to JVM 1.1 ) and not sucky MIDP !
yeah and most PDA's can get JVM which has the personal edition so code for the that and even your TV can use your app's !
thats nm not mm and it would make NO differance to you the only thing it will change is the yeilds of 2GHz chips and the ability to clock some chips higher (which Yous cant do and they Wont do)
things like the VM subsystem and the dynamic linker etc....
but really you need a compiler and a good ABI (look at sgi n32 O32 been there a long time)
they have the compiler (PPC64 linux has the same back end ) really if you want speed on these things run linux.... (check out the data access using ext2)
the real niceness is thet you can run photoshop 8
(cs or whatever adobe want to call it )
and then munch through a bunch of filters hmmm floating point goodness.....
they do the printer but not the keyboard... (how are you surposed to write long msgs ? in apple address sms tasb;-) MS pair via hadware so that you can not use your MS mouse with any other standard Bluetooth Dongle !
the gcc 2.96 was better but the amount of stuff that it broke means that it was worse it was a kind of thing that you just have to call and take the flack one way or another
lets hope that the ABI stays the same and no more C++ problems come up...... to quote On the following i386-based systems GCC 3.2.1 broke the C ABI wrt. functions returning structures: Cygwin, FreeBSD (GCC 3.2.1 as shipped with FreeBSD 5.0 does not have this problem), Interix, a.out-based Linux and NetBSD, OpenBSD, and Darwin. GCC 3.2.2 reverts this ABI change, and thus restores ABI-compatibility with previous releases (except GCC 3.2.1) on these platforms.
it just struck me that their is no one with any technical knowledge on the board
I mean Hardware people with an EE degree. Apple they keep saying is a hardware company it might pay to have someone who knows what the differance in a process can make to a product...
wake up if its cheap then the drive people love it
its shake out time with people not buying and as such a way of reduceing costs is good...
what if
you only had to manufacture one drive controller and you could switch it between market segments then if you want a high end SCSI drive you add a fast motor and bingo
thats the real reason
and its good because it means that SCSI will come down in price and people might get rid of SATA (its not going to happen but I can dream cant I )
I have not used the keypad in a while, my T68i joystick is great if anyone here has used the SPV from Microsoft will know that a good joystick is a must have
I write my SMS's on my mac alot of the time and use bluetooth but hey I am a geek yes keys are nice but they can often be not needed depending on who you target it at
Nokia release phones with SyncML but you need to use a cable ?? No Bluetooth thats plain stupid they seem to be going for the girls with this phone nokia has always targeted segments very well but they might just lose the market if they dont start putting bluetooth in asap and get a sync actually Works and go back to clip on covers
I saw a girl in the bar writeing out all her contacts onto paper I asked what phone she was getting next and she said any one that could back up all her numbers !
carriers are missing a BIG revenue stream here offer a backup sync server service with all your numbers and you get customers locked in and if you use SyncML you get to use any modern phone why dont they do this ?
regards
John Jones
p.s. phones should have all have a IPv6 address IMHO
MHz is not everything I wonder how much of a performance penalty e.g. not having unaligned loads actually is and compared to a true MIPS core what the penalty
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this seems to me just to be the dev station like SONY gave out for the PS2
(they call it something like PS2Tool)
big deal or not ?
o BIG deal at least the hardware is sort of final (can be changed but not likely) that means they taped out and just need to do mass production
o NOT does not say anything about the device or that it includes silicon from the PS3 or just running an emulator
o lets face it you can use all of the tools to do graphics like they do in the movies and games at the moment Maya, 3DS Max and games engines are pretty good about seperating out the display from the AI, sound, physics
now can someone actually give details like a block diagram of the chip ?
regards
John Jones
that would be really good to see NT and NTFS benchmarked
the NT kernel beating linux would make some people take notice
regards
John Jones
ok
limited know how but wont it just be washy (i.e. smooth it rather than jump)
ogg is a good container I hope they use ogg because it should be variable bit rate...
I dont really undersand why dont they concentrate on doing what apple has done and create a Pixlet like codec that people can get 25-to-1 compression rates at high def (HD like 35mm people)
pixlet like please
why dont the BBC open source all their R&D ?
regards
John Jones
or more to the point why do you think its secure ?
it all comes down to trust...
do you trust the network your pluged into ?
how about the people who are selling that VPN ?
I surgest that you have a look at IPSec
it works on winXP linux solaris BSD's and then find a Networked File System that is high performance
regards
John Jones
why not just use IPSec on your whole network ?
or just on the wireless network and use a gateway
Why is this so hard ?
regards
John Jones
Sun have a chance !
a Sun Virtual Machine ( SVM ) that has libs for java and can be targeted well by other langs
start with the JVM fix the Java memory model
(JSR 133, which has been active for nearly three years see article on fixing it and links at bottom located at )
let ADA and fortran target it well
(i.e. think about take floating point IEEE754 seriously but get it out there and tune later)
really not that hard look at Programming Languages for the Java Virtual Machine
Start with something you know well and adapt it
if it was refered to the ITU I bet they would love it and make it a standard !
regards
John Jones
lets face it linux runs fine on the ARM platform but you need an interface
the interface is Java(VM)
it has nice security app's and works across all the vendors
Vodaphone shows that the networks like to control how the interface looks (branding)
so what matters is the display and what ODM like (easy to make work)
Microsoft have the fact that it works and is qualified many of the standards (dont screw up the network)
linux fails many of of the standards because it has not been put through the tests it needs vendor support in this !
and the BSP for OMAP with GSM is non existant this needs to be improved
WRS could win these easy for linux just by providing a JavaVM and various linux BSP's that support the standards (quality confirmed mate got to have it)
networks like Java and if people could come up with a nice java app to make them money (GPS/ location aware through cells) from ads/services then away you go
regards
John Jones
ok
all I really want is IPsec
(and maybe MobileIP)
imagine that all your IP conections are secure !
screw that crap 802.11 security just let the router only allow IPsec connections and if you want to lock it down ask for the machines keys and only allow these
why is this so hard ?
IPsec is in all modern linux *BSD *ix MacOS and Win2k WinXP (win98 with download util)
really I have not seen a laptop with a OS that could not use IPsec
IPsec is manditory part of IPv6
why do these people miss the point ?
regards
John Jones
I dont understand why dont all the wirless people just forget about all this crap and just say that IPv6 has to be on all the clients
so thats
win2k and winXP
linux
*nix
*BSD
MacOS X panther
the router could even understand mobileIP and then things would be sweet !
(same IP no matter where you roam)
tell me ?
regards
John Jones
they even ran a competition to build an app that used the GPS
not really looked at it to hard but it seems pretty nice I dont know where you are in the world but you should be able to import it use the java software and use a GSM provider of your choice
I got a P900 and its great if you want a full JVM (it has the personal edition akin to JVM 1.1 ) and not sucky MIDP !
yeah and most PDA's can get JVM which has the personal edition so code for the that and even your TV can use your app's !
anyway have fun
regards
John Jones
accessories for http://www.ipodmini.me.uk cases also
thats nm not mm and it would make NO differance to you the only thing it will change is the yeilds of 2GHz chips and the ability to clock some chips higher (which Yous cant do and they Wont do)
you dont need to be fully 64bit
things like the VM subsystem and the dynamic linker etc....
but really you need a compiler and a good ABI (look at sgi n32 O32 been there a long time)
they have the compiler (PPC64 linux has the same back end )
really if you want speed on these things run linux....
(check out the data access using ext2)
the real niceness is thet you can run photoshop 8
(cs or whatever adobe want to call it )
and then munch through a bunch of filters hmmm floating point goodness.....
regards
JJ
they wont move from GCC its just getting too good...
also they can change objc compiler when they plese
if Apple want CONTROL freakery then they should stay with gcc
regards
JJ
So
are IBM going to have to show they did not do anything wrong or is SCO got to prove it ?
JJ
they do the printer but not the keyboard...
(how are you surposed to write long msgs ? in apple address sms tasb;-)
MS pair via hadware so that you can not use your MS mouse with any other standard Bluetooth Dongle !
is this a real bluetooth keyboard unlike microsofts where they paired via hardware Apple might have done in it software...
can you use the keyboard with a t68i ?
regards
John Jones
ok what really annoyed me was the ABI change
I can see why they did it !
the gcc 2.96 was better but the amount of stuff that it broke means that it was worse it was a kind of thing that you just have to call and take the flack one way or another
lets hope that the ABI stays the same and no more C++ problems come up...... to quote
On the following i386-based systems GCC 3.2.1 broke the C ABI wrt. functions returning structures: Cygwin, FreeBSD (GCC 3.2.1 as shipped with FreeBSD 5.0 does not have this problem), Interix, a.out-based Linux and NetBSD, OpenBSD, and Darwin. GCC 3.2.2 reverts this ABI change, and thus restores ABI-compatibility with previous releases (except GCC 3.2.1) on these platforms.
regards
John Jones
p.s. I think war in IRAQ is silly
it just struck me that their is no one with any technical knowledge on the board
I mean Hardware people with an EE degree. Apple they keep saying is a hardware company it might pay to have someone who knows what the differance in a process can make to a product...
let alone understanding tape out times
regards
John Jones
I personally hope that he can stand up to jobs and knows that he does NOT know Fsck all about technology
people who know where their limits are and get advice i.e. humble are the people you want
at last jobs hass someone who can really play politics......
regards
John Jones
come on AMD you have 802.11b via the alchemy boys and girls
no NEW networking chips and NO gigabit ethernet....
what I would like to see is a bluetooth chip (or licence one) that also sat on the motherboard
they are not expensive at $5
On the motherboard so I can sync my phone/palm/life
regards
John Jones
they people who are doing this whats their history ?
It matters ALOT
any clues ?
regards
John Jones
wake up if its cheap then the drive people love it
its shake out time with people not buying and as such a way of reduceing costs is good...
what if
you only had to manufacture one drive controller and you could switch it between market segments
then if you want a high end SCSI drive you add a fast motor and bingo
thats the real reason
and its good because it means that SCSI will come down in price and people might get rid of SATA (its not going to happen but I can dream cant I )
regards
John Jones
come on you actually dial numbers ?
I have not used the keypad in a while, my T68i joystick is great if anyone here has used the SPV from Microsoft will know that a good joystick is a must have
I write my SMS's on my mac alot of the time and use bluetooth but hey I am a geek yes keys are nice but they can often be not needed depending on who you target it at
Nokia release phones with SyncML but you need to use a cable ?? No Bluetooth thats plain stupid they seem to be going for the girls with this phone nokia has always targeted segments very well but they might just lose the market if they dont start putting bluetooth in asap and get a sync actually Works and go back to clip on covers
I saw a girl in the bar writeing out all her contacts onto paper I asked what phone she was getting next and she said any one that could back up all her numbers !
carriers are missing a BIG revenue stream here offer a backup sync server service with all your numbers and you get customers locked in and if you use SyncML you get to use any modern phone why dont they do this ?
regards
John Jones
p.s. phones should have all have a IPv6 address IMHO
technically its cleaner has lots of software support (guess at linux and netbsd + ports )
and has a smaller die size I would guess
so in china they dont have a stupid......
regards
John jones
I wonder how well it actually performs
MHz is not everything I wonder how much of a performance penalty e.g. not having unaligned loads actually is and compared to a true MIPS core what the penalty
anyone got basic benchmarks ?
regards
John Jones