That is correct. Ferrari was not the first company to paint their cars red. That distinction seems to go to FIAT.
Guess who owns Ferrari? Guess who STILL isn't the only car company that can paint its cars red? Any shade of red.
There are limits to trademarkability.
For instance, there are cars other than Ferrari that use a horse as their logo. Even a prancing one. Ferrari can't do a damn thing about it.
This is not the same thing as saying that certain things cannot be *claimed* as a trademark, and prosecuted as such. This is essentially what Apple is doing, despite having lost such a case in court themselves.
that can use the Ferrari prancing horse logo without express permission. Ferrari is even the only company, by actual court order, that can make cars that are SHAPED like Ferraris.
Ferrari is NOT the only company that can paint its cars red.
There are limits to claiming 'themes' as a trademark.
Actually most smart retailers HATE doing this. It makes it harder for everybody.
Except for one thing. Study after study has shown that the "vain" hope isn't in vain. Items marked at.99 or.95 or whatever sell significantly better.
You'll find some stores that use.99,.98,.95, etc, on different items as well. This is done for internal data collection, the different penny amounts standing for different product catagories.
By the way, in the *wholesale* trade, pricing this way is a garunteed way to *lose* business. Business operators want to do business in even amounts.
If the average consumer were as savy as the average business operator we could do away with the whole pennies thingy.
Well no, not really. It is increadably rewarding for those that are good at it though, and they wouldn't do anything else.
They work their tight little asses off though.
This is going to sound trite, especially considering all the other posts saying essentially the same thing, BUT. . .
You are basically still a child. You have now had your first *jobs,* but have yet to have any actually experience of working.
Give up the idea of "fun" at work. Find a job where you enjoy doing the WORK and bust your ass at it, eight hour a day. Then go HOME to play, with your paycheck.
How about starting your own company? Work 16 hour days, seven days a week, only to have nothing because your employees take it all while bitching about you. I used to tell people, " I don't work for myself. I work for my lawyer, insurance company, phone company, landlord, power company, etc. They don't let me keep anything for myself."
You'll probably go under just like everyone else, but just might have the time of your life anyway. Funny how "fun" works sometimes.
By the way, if you manage that you're doing better than the 99.9% of the population who end up performing work functions because they like to eat better than the alternative. You just might have to grow up and get used to that idea.
Hummingbirds are the exception. They are the helicopters of the bird world. And just like helicopters they pay dearly for the ability.
Even so the hummingbird isn't all that different. Just as the helicopter uses a rotating wing with varible pitch, pushing the wing itself forward through the air and then feathering it on the back stroke, so does the humming bird. The rotation just happens in a different plane.
It isn't just a question of reducing resistence on the up stroke. The fact of the matter is that birds don't fly by pushing themselves upward. Thinking about it a bit will show how such isn't even possible.
Birds fly just as airplanes do, by using a propeller to generate *forward* thrust, and thus airflow over the airfoil surface.
A bird's wing twists on the downstroke in such a manner as to drive it *forward.*
Think of it as a variable pitch prop that can only move up and down, and/or as a previous poster has pointed out, an oar consisting of the large primary feathers of the wingtip.
for their own good. Either that or they're just looking for 10 mill to play with neat toys. Can't say as I blame them for that, being one of them and all.
Look, no one needs to "prove" that traveling to Mars at 1MG would be a good idea. Anyone halfway attuned to the issues could rattle off 20 good reasons for doing this in no more than 60 seconds.
What's more, this won't "prove" anything. It will offer *support* for the above mentioned good reasons, none of which anybody questions in the first place.
What reasons would there be for NOT making the trip at 1MG?
There's only one really, and it's one of pure practicallity. To travel to Mars at 1MG you must, by *definition*, accelerate at 1MG for the entire duration of the trip!
As opposed to boosting out of Earth orbit, coasting most of the way at no fuel cost and braking when you get there.
The fact of the matter is that this so called "proof" is moot. If we can figure out a way to go at 1MG we will, If we can't, we won't.
I thinks these guys just like to play with rockets and dick around with mice.
Yes. The idea was to make the fabric of the covering waterproof. To do so they mixed aluminum powder with oil and saturated the fabric with it.
This is why the Hindenburg looked shiny and metallic even though it was just fabric. You can see the same effect on many airplanes of the day. The Spirit of Saint Louis comes immediately to mind.
This is basically thermite, and according to modern tests gave the fabric a lower flashpoint than the hydrogen gas it contained.
This is not to say that the disaster wouldn't have happened otherwise but it may well actually be the point of ignition that started the whole thing off.
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Is "Hello World" a 'bloated' program in C**? If you took out Office, mail, all the apps, Konqueror, 3/4s of the features and networking would it still be "bloated?"
What on earth has compilation time got to do with bloatedness after compilation?
Ever wonder about all those people publishing, and *claiming copyright* over public domain documents? Say the works of Swift?
What they do, in fact, is introduce intentional errors into the text. THIS they do, in fact, own the rights to. If anyone else simply copies their "public domain" work it can proven, and the copier can be prosocuted.
This makes the work of the Guttenburg Project considerably more difficult, and costly, than it otherwise need be as they actually need to pay lawyers to arrange rights to public domain documents.
This technique is also used to protect modern IP, the two most famous cases of which are probably found in the game Trivial Pursuit and the original G.I. Joe.
Some of the answers in Trivial Pursuit are WRONG. . . *on purpose.* This fact was used to allow them to successfully prosecute a company that wasn't just content to knock off the game, but copied the questions and answers, including the "trojan horse" copyright proof questions.
Hasbro knew that if the G.I Joe were at all successful factories in Taiwan and Japan would start pumping out copies overnight. They couldn't do anything to prevent them from making a selling army man dolls, but what they COULD do was make sure that if the used a real G.I. Joe it could be proven.
If you ever get a chance to look at an original, full size, ( in a couple of cases we old timers got to have the GOOD toys), examine his hands.
On one of them the thumbnail is *on the wrong side of the thumb!*
He didn't say it was *only* used to imitate Damascus steel, he said it was.
It is.
KFG
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And why * shouldn't* it confuse people if it looks just like Windows. . . except when you want to do something? I've been using KDE for three months now and I still can't perform many simple GUI specific tasks just because I can't find where they are done, even if I've done them before.
More importantly related tasks seem to be placed at random places . . . away from each other.
I'm no computing novice, I remember when there was no UNIX. I didn't use Windows until it had been out for years, and then only because it came preinstalled.
I think MS Windows sucks for many reasons, but I can use it fairly easily.
KDE sucks not only to the extent that seeks to emulate Windows but *also* to the extent that it fails to do so.
At least it's getting better, I've stopped using GNOME because it seems to be getting worse.
Damn good thing I boot to level 3.
KFG
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I know that, *that is why* we need new algorithms for motion graphics.
Your TV at 300x200 at 30 fps gives life like color and smooth motion. Your computer dosn't.
Ever wonder WHY?
KFG
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Indeed. Until one year ago the computer that handled the core functions of my business, the one that if it went down I was out of business, was 1.7 MHz Compaq trasportable.
The only reason I ditched it was the 5 1/2" full hight floppy drive was getting cranky and I couldn't find a replacment.
I donated it to a church and it's still chugging away doing useful work.
Oh sure, a few years from now I'll want something newer and snazzier than the Athlon 900 I have now. I WON'T want to get rid of the Athlon though. Why should I? It plays music, it records music, both prepackaged and live. It makes CDs. It plays and records movies and TV. It renders images in photo quality. It surfs the web. It can interface with, and control, every electronic device in my house, and with a bit tinkering every NON electronic device in my house. Screen resolutions are higher than anybody can see.
Hell, it even *computes!*
And all of the software to do this is either free or easily writable by myself.
It already does what 90% of the population needs, but more than that, it already does 90% of everything *I* will ever need.
I don't need a faster cpu to get 300 fps in Quake, I need new algorithms to make Quake look like natural motion at 30 fps.
I sure as hell don't need Windows XP. The "industry" is counting on XP to sell computers. What's with that? Do these people have their heads up their fscking butts? It ain't going to happen. If I WANTED XP I'd buy XP, not a computer.
What I need is bigger, faster *storage.*
At least until the Virtual date with petrified Natalie Portman with hot grits down her pants program comes out.
I might buy a new machine to run that. I'll still run my core apps on my current machine though. The new one will be down for cleaning too often.
KFG
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Yes, you are a bit confused. He didn't say *Linux* software from the 80s, he said software.
The point of fact is that Linux was specifically developed to run existing software. ..of the 80s.
You'll find most of it at gnu.org.
KFG
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What you don't do is *Address* the kernel directly on a daily basis. You DO interface with it constantly. That's what an *interface* is. It sits *between* you and kernel.
Inter-face. Look up the word and then look up "inter."
bash is an interface. KDE is a GUInterface.
THEY face the kernel. YOU face them.
Inter. Get it?
Perhaps you are getting confused by your advanced knowledge that Linux is just the kernel. You are correct.
bash and KDE are not Linux. They are among the many kernel *interfaces* available to address the kernel and for the user to address.
I wish to God that Sun had taken half the money they spent on testing Gnome and KDE. I would have written them a long letter telling them everything they learned with a lot less wasted time on everybodies part. They suck, for everybody, newbie and expert alike. They don't need to.
bash, on the other hand, is an excelent interface. . . for those that already know everything.
The joke is funny, as many jokes are, because of how painfully true it is.
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That is correct. Ferrari was not the first company to paint their cars red. That distinction seems to go to FIAT.
Guess who owns Ferrari? Guess who STILL isn't the only car company that can paint its cars red? Any shade of red.
There are limits to trademarkability.
For instance, there are cars other than Ferrari that use a horse as their logo. Even a prancing one. Ferrari can't do a damn thing about it.
This is not the same thing as saying that certain things cannot be *claimed* as a trademark, and prosecuted as such. This is essentially what Apple is doing, despite having lost such a case in court themselves.
KFG
that can use the Ferrari prancing horse logo without express permission. Ferrari is even the only company, by actual court order, that can make cars that are SHAPED like Ferraris.
Ferrari is NOT the only company that can paint its cars red.
There are limits to claiming 'themes' as a trademark.
KFG
Not even "For the Children"?
KFG
There must be intelligent alien life on the comet.
Quick, alert the editors at that fine scientific magazine " Weekly World News."
KFG
Actually most smart retailers HATE doing this. It makes it harder for everybody.
.99 or .95 or whatever sell significantly better.
.99, .98, .95, etc, on different items as well. This is done for internal data collection, the different penny amounts standing for different product catagories.
Except for one thing. Study after study has shown that the "vain" hope isn't in vain. Items marked at
You'll find some stores that use
By the way, in the *wholesale* trade, pricing this way is a garunteed way to *lose* business. Business operators want to do business in even amounts.
If the average consumer were as savy as the average business operator we could do away with the whole pennies thingy.
KFG
Well no, not really. It is increadably rewarding for those that are good at it though, and they wouldn't do anything else.
They work their tight little asses off though.
This is going to sound trite, especially considering all the other posts saying essentially the same thing, BUT. . .
You are basically still a child. You have now had your first *jobs,* but have yet to have any actually experience of working.
Give up the idea of "fun" at work. Find a job where you enjoy doing the WORK and bust your ass at it, eight hour a day. Then go HOME to play, with your paycheck.
How about starting your own company? Work 16 hour days, seven days a week, only to have nothing because your employees take it all while bitching about you. I used to tell people, " I don't work for myself. I work for my lawyer, insurance company, phone company, landlord, power company, etc. They don't let me keep anything for myself."
You'll probably go under just like everyone else, but just might have the time of your life anyway. Funny how "fun" works sometimes.
By the way, if you manage that you're doing better than the 99.9% of the population who end up performing work functions because they like to eat better than the alternative. You just might have to grow up and get used to that idea.
KFG
figure out how much money the customer is going to make in their lifetime and have them send it to us. . . annually.
KFG
I'll just use that to write a web site desparaging the Front Page EULA.
Thank God that Microsoft can't it's grubby little paws on the text editor.
KFG
Best be careful with this sort of thing. You could end up with the estate of Buffalo Bob after your butt. THEN you'ld *really* be in trouble.
KFG
Hummingbirds are the exception. They are the helicopters of the bird world. And just like helicopters they pay dearly for the ability.
Even so the hummingbird isn't all that different. Just as the helicopter uses a rotating wing with varible pitch, pushing the wing itself forward through the air and then feathering it on the back stroke, so does the humming bird. The rotation just happens in a different plane.
KFG
It isn't just a question of reducing resistence on the up stroke. The fact of the matter is that birds don't fly by pushing themselves upward. Thinking about it a bit will show how such isn't even possible.
Birds fly just as airplanes do, by using a propeller to generate *forward* thrust, and thus airflow over the airfoil surface.
A bird's wing twists on the downstroke in such a manner as to drive it *forward.*
Think of it as a variable pitch prop that can only move up and down, and/or as a previous poster has pointed out, an oar consisting of the large primary feathers of the wingtip.
KFG
Removing civil liberties to preserve American freedom is like fucking for chastity.
The enemy know where our weaknesses are. They have analized them carefully. Don't let them use political Akido to use our own force against ourselves.
The only way to preserve freedom is to grant it, and defend it.
KFG
for their own good. Either that or they're just looking for 10 mill to play with neat toys. Can't say as I blame them for that, being one of them and all.
Look, no one needs to "prove" that traveling to Mars at 1MG would be a good idea. Anyone halfway attuned to the issues could rattle off 20 good reasons for doing this in no more than 60 seconds.
What's more, this won't "prove" anything. It will offer *support* for the above mentioned good reasons, none of which anybody questions in the first place.
What reasons would there be for NOT making the trip at 1MG?
There's only one really, and it's one of pure practicallity. To travel to Mars at 1MG you must, by *definition*, accelerate at 1MG for the entire duration of the trip!
As opposed to boosting out of Earth orbit, coasting most of the way at no fuel cost and braking when you get there.
The fact of the matter is that this so called "proof" is moot. If we can figure out a way to go at 1MG we will, If we can't, we won't.
I thinks these guys just like to play with rockets and dick around with mice.
KFG
Tell me about it! The main appeal of Python, to me, is that I can type it.
It gets worse though, and we've all been there, when we get to *text editors* designed for people who can't type.
Maybe that's why emacs is so popular, if what you're typing is C code, what the hell difference does it make?
KFG
Yes. The idea was to make the fabric of the covering waterproof. To do so they mixed aluminum powder with oil and saturated the fabric with it.
This is why the Hindenburg looked shiny and metallic even though it was just fabric. You can see the same effect on many airplanes of the day. The Spirit of Saint Louis comes immediately to mind.
This is basically thermite, and according to modern tests gave the fabric a lower flashpoint than the hydrogen gas it contained.
This is not to say that the disaster wouldn't have happened otherwise but it may well actually be the point of ignition that started the whole thing off.
KFG
Sucks to be you I guess.
Would you believe me if I told you that it was all in the wrist?
KFG
Indeed, that is why when I posted the story I very carefully specified paying customers.
Perhaps this will persuade our congress critters that taking care of our helium reserves really *isn't* just some big sort of boondogle.
KFG
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Is "Hello World" a 'bloated' program in C**? If you took out Office, mail, all the apps, Konqueror, 3/4s of the features and networking would it still be "bloated?"
What on earth has compilation time got to do with bloatedness after compilation?
KFG
Ever wonder about all those people publishing, and *claiming copyright* over public domain documents? Say the works of Swift?
What they do, in fact, is introduce intentional errors into the text. THIS they do, in fact, own the rights to. If anyone else simply copies their "public domain" work it can proven, and the copier can be prosocuted.
This makes the work of the Guttenburg Project considerably more difficult, and costly, than it otherwise need be as they actually need to pay lawyers to arrange rights to public domain documents.
This technique is also used to protect modern IP, the two most famous cases of which are probably found in the game Trivial Pursuit and the original G.I. Joe.
Some of the answers in Trivial Pursuit are WRONG. . . *on purpose.* This fact was used to allow them to successfully prosecute a company that wasn't just content to knock off the game, but copied the questions and answers, including the "trojan horse" copyright proof questions.
Hasbro knew that if the G.I Joe were at all successful factories in Taiwan and Japan would start pumping out copies overnight. They couldn't do anything to prevent them from making a selling army man dolls, but what they COULD do was make sure that if the used a real G.I. Joe it could be proven.
If you ever get a chance to look at an original, full size, ( in a couple of cases we old timers got to have the GOOD toys), examine his hands.
On one of them the thumbnail is *on the wrong side of the thumb!*
KFG
He didn't say it was *only* used to imitate Damascus steel, he said it was.
It is.
KFG
And why * shouldn't* it confuse people if it looks just like Windows. . . except when you want to do something? I've been using KDE for three months now and I still can't perform many simple GUI specific tasks just because I can't find where they are done, even if I've done them before.
More importantly related tasks seem to be placed at random places . . . away from each other.
I'm no computing novice, I remember when there was no UNIX. I didn't use Windows until it had been out for years, and then only because it came preinstalled.
I think MS Windows sucks for many reasons, but I can use it fairly easily.
KDE sucks not only to the extent that seeks to emulate Windows but *also* to the extent that it fails to do so.
At least it's getting better, I've stopped using GNOME because it seems to be getting worse.
Damn good thing I boot to level 3.
KFG
I know that, *that is why* we need new algorithms for motion graphics.
Your TV at 300x200 at 30 fps gives life like color and smooth motion. Your computer dosn't.
Ever wonder WHY?
KFG
Indeed. Until one year ago the computer that handled the core functions of my business, the one that if it went down I was out of business, was 1.7 MHz Compaq trasportable.
The only reason I ditched it was the 5 1/2" full hight floppy drive was getting cranky and I couldn't find a replacment.
I donated it to a church and it's still chugging away doing useful work.
Oh sure, a few years from now I'll want something newer and snazzier than the Athlon 900 I have now. I WON'T want to get rid of the Athlon though. Why should I? It plays music, it records music, both prepackaged and live. It makes CDs. It plays and records movies and TV. It renders images in photo quality. It surfs the web. It can interface with, and control, every electronic device in my house, and with a bit tinkering every NON electronic device in my house. Screen resolutions are higher than anybody can see.
Hell, it even *computes!*
And all of the software to do this is either free or easily writable by myself.
It already does what 90% of the population needs, but more than that, it already does 90% of everything *I* will ever need.
I don't need a faster cpu to get 300 fps in Quake, I need new algorithms to make Quake look like natural motion at 30 fps.
I sure as hell don't need Windows XP. The "industry" is counting on XP to sell computers. What's with that? Do these people have their heads up their fscking butts? It ain't going to happen. If I WANTED XP I'd buy XP, not a computer.
What I need is bigger, faster *storage.*
At least until the Virtual date with petrified Natalie Portman with hot grits down her pants program comes out.
I might buy a new machine to run that. I'll still run my core apps on my current machine though. The new one will be down for cleaning too often.
KFG
Yes, you are a bit confused. He didn't say *Linux* software from the 80s, he said software.
.of the 80s.
The point of fact is that Linux was specifically developed to run existing software. .
You'll find most of it at gnu.org.
KFG
What you don't do is *Address* the kernel directly on a daily basis. You DO interface with it constantly. That's what an *interface* is. It sits *between* you and kernel.
Inter-face. Look up the word and then look up "inter."
bash is an interface. KDE is a GUInterface.
THEY face the kernel. YOU face them.
Inter. Get it?
Perhaps you are getting confused by your advanced knowledge that Linux is just the kernel. You are correct.
bash and KDE are not Linux. They are among the many kernel *interfaces* available to address the kernel and for the user to address.
I wish to God that Sun had taken half the money they spent on testing Gnome and KDE. I would have written them a long letter telling them everything they learned with a lot less wasted time on everybodies part. They suck, for everybody, newbie and expert alike. They don't need to.
bash, on the other hand, is an excelent interface. . . for those that already know everything.
The joke is funny, as many jokes are, because of how painfully true it is.
KFG