No theyre talking about the sourcecode. You cant have that for Tru64 from the HP hobbyist license.
There was a demo version of OS/2 floating around, the wikipedia article says so.
I have an alpha system, but cant pay the $99 for the hobbyist license of a dead OS (tru64 or openvms) . I can get demo versions of many other unices, and solaris for free.
Think of when India will send people up to compete with China, and Pakistan will send their own to compete with India. We'll run out of elbowroom on the moon.
And with that, we'll see the first spacesuits that can fit long beards. You can bet they'll all land on American soil and claim to be refugees!
and spend their remaining days driving yellow cabs downtown NYC.
The whole reason why they would throw out the computer is because the 'cost' of 'fixing' it is higher than the cost of a new one. Some computer repair places work like car mechanic joints. A basic diagnostic takes $25, plus whatever else they might do in addition to the $50 or so hourly labour rate. Depending on what they think the problem is and how much time it takes them to reinstall all the software, and fix the drivers, it might as well exceed the cost of a basic celeron ECS computer with 256MB ram and 40gig harddisk.
Of course a 'factory restore' CD will be far simpler if it didnt ask too many questions, and simply reimaged the partition.
Makes me think if a company can sell 'fix your computer' windows install CDs which will simply format and reinstall windows and come with the largest driver collection to avoid issues.
Also if a knoppix CD would just install itself onto the harddisk and boot the disk without questions ( to run much faster), that would solve the problem.
They will just jack up the ink price further to make the final price even again. Makes me think the whole reason the head was on the cartridge was to make thirdparty cartridges difficult to make or copy.
We should all be exclusively using laserjets anyway, why is anyone happy the inkjet technology has a new lease on life?
DRAM uses a clock that refreshes the memory constantly. As a result only one transistor and a capacitor is required per bit. The same can be done for qbits.
However this will probably add to a similar latency as DRAM does vs SRAM. The only answer I can think of is using plain qbits (not refreshed qbits) in the cache of the CPU to speed it up, and hope most of the hits are while the data is good.
Even better is the synchronous (async? I forgot) computer which doesnt use a clock at all.
I think Intel and AMD will think of a way to sell such chips to us, and find ways to make em faster.
What is stability if the OS will be lost forever and the company bankupted?
At present the market kinda needs a desktop OS that can compete with the desktop os of majority. Both the graphic subsystem and windowing subsystem are kept at an arms length in Linux and BSD which makes em great server OSes, but they show significant latency compared to their main competitor. Both BeOS and SkyOS have it embedded in the kernel space, and quite honestly BeOS could do it but it died and was shelved by Palm Inc. SkyOS is simply too small right now to have any real chance. People will keep tweaking Linux and FreeBSD to get better latencies, which will never approach that of WindowsXP and OSX.
Instead of seeing dead OSes all around, OS2, Tru64, OpenVMS etc, I'd rather see them find refuge as a desktop OS that can seriously compete.
SGI was an innovative company; WAS because I havent seen much in the way of innovation from them recently. What are they now anyway, Itanium-workstation company? Good looking supercomputers? Yet another UNIX?
They gave us XFS and OpenGL, both are highly useful to Linux (I wonder if BSD will integrate XFS). Their workstations were great for CAD software, what happened there?
I'd like to see them blitz the market with cheaper but still powerful workstations. Would like to see them sell MIPS ATX boards for people to test their stuff while they work hard on their OS, removing X, integrating the graphics into the kernel like BeOS and skyos, sell SMP boards and machines upwards of 8 CPUs at the lowest cost possible etc. They should force their way back into the market rather than try to be the Apple of UNIX machines sitting up in a tree.
A mini-MIPS machine like the minimac wouldnt hurt either, if the OS is juiced up.
Most of the energy that reaches Earth is through the Sun. Lucky us, the Sun reaches almost all parts of the planet.
So the obvious forms of getting energy are solar panels, windmills and wave energy generators. And then theres also nuclear power which we're using so heavily already, while waiting for the long overdue success of the JET project.
The only real issue we face is transportation. I suspect electric trains, expansion of subways and electric busses will fix the problem once oil becomes scarce. we'll never completely run out of oil, so less frequent uses will remain like jet aircraft. Plastics will become more expensive, and the solution will be recycling and finding more organic alternatives.
At one point the MCSE became a joke (around 2000). The youngest person to pass the exam in Pakistan IIRC was an 11 year old kid, which appeared in the newspapers.
Later on, MCSE became tougher to deal with this, but the exam still aims for the largest market.
Now reading a book has never worked for me for computer certs. Just buy several cheap used computers, build a network and read braindumps. Works much better.
The first step towards security is to reduce the services and access to only what you need and what you understand. If you see the service in.inetd, and have no clue what it does, or what needs it, kill it.
The second step is to read peoples experiences on how they got hacked and what did they do wrong. Skim over cert advisories.
Lastly keep the system patched up depending on the OS. Windows should be automatically updated between 10pm and 7am, dont make all machines DDOS your firewall. Linux needs patches depending on the distro and the BSDs rarely need patching at all (esp OpenBSD).
Different people have differing ideas on how to achieve security nirvana. My plan is to simply understand what does what, so I can monitor and keep things simple. And if there is a popular daemon that runs like bind or sendmail, keep it patched, and chrooted if possible.
Apart from that of course, the usual. Keep tough passwords, tighten the ACLs, block all irrelevant ports, chroot whatever is possible, keep a DMZ etc.
I havent read the book. But some thoughts on that post:
The aim for C should not simply be to reduce the time spent on code, the simplistic economic view. Leave that to Java. C is for a clear and thorough understanding of the code's execution, more so than C++. The execution flow can very clearly be seen in this structured language which does not try to be smart or do things behind the wall in the compiler. C is brutal and raw, therefore low level and powerful. Leave it to that. C is great for kernel level programming, drivers and embedded systems, and other places where you get anal about control over whats happening. C is awesome when you need to mingle the code with assembly in tight spots and still keep things readable.
Please do not turn it into Java. Programmers who need to spend less time can just use Visual Basic or equivalents.
I like the idea of commenting on all parts of the standard. But you said you used a cognitive analysis of some sort. More so than that, I'd look for comments from experienced developers, maybe people who worked on various kernels and drivers, integrated various languages with C, developed C libraries and worked on a hundered-file projects.
I've personally seen the mindset whereby the person wants to further his genes as much as possible, indeed in rural areas Muslim mullahs preach producing as many 'muslims' as is economically possible (read: food available). You cant blame me for being antimuslim either because I am one.
Like I said the two ways are education + womens sufferage. In combination that creates families which try to have few children and raise them the best they can. Actually another important ingredient is the healthcare. Where you have extremely high death rates before the child reaches reproductive-age, the society reacts by producing many children. Once they can be assured of the survival of their own children, believe me, they would rather educate the few kids the best they can and generally aim for a better quality of life.
What I hate to imagine is the case where massive amounts of food is provided to poor countries for several decades, and during a major famine, food is withheld causing the maximum amount of starvation. The type we saw in Ethiopia.
Most people would rather be forced to have few children than watch them die starving. Most of those would rather be forced by circumstances than the government. I'm all for creating such circumstances.
Glad to see someone else still kicking on the other side of the silicon curtain. MIPS, Alpha, HP-UX, Ultrasparc, m68k, Itanium are all more or less dead. The only players in the 32-bit/64-bit arena are x86(x64), PPC and ARM. ARM just isnt aiming for the same market, which really leaves PPC and x86/x64 for the Desktop AND the server market. Its amazing so many architectures are now powered by the same chips (mac, AS400, RS6000, game consoles, industrial VME cards) by PPC and everything else by x86/x64.
Personally I'd be glad to see x64-only chips with the 32-baggage dropped, and a BIOS standard that allows booting straight into 64-bit. That will really split the x64 from the x86, and give us cheaper and lighter chips. As for the PPC, I'm glad its still there. The price/performance ratio may be bad (relative to the Athlon64), but for one the base architecture is good, and diversity, which pushed semiconductors in general so far during the 90s is good for the industry.
Software for which source code is available (free or otherwise) is the only thing that can diversify the CPU market. People are stuck with a single CPU and operating system, both ill-designed, simply because their closed-source software will only run on that combination. Some awesome technologies like the Alpha chip, the Ultrasparc, the IRIX OS etc have died simply for that reason.
I say we do NOT use fake meat to feed the third worlds population. Heres why:
The idea is to reduce suffering. Right? If we cannot eliminate it completely overnight, we have to aim for say fewer people dying of starvation. Right?
Now in many poor countries, people are like bacteria cultures. Add food, they'll increase in numbers. Reduce food, they'll starve in big numbers= starvation.
Eventually the population reaches an equiliberium like it is now in Pakistan. People simply cannot afford to have more kids. Food becomes more expensive as the population grows. The amount of food also fluctuates between the years. During the bad years you'll see maximum suffering in an overpopulated country.
The only break out of this is education and economy. People will realize their quality of life increases with fewer children if they have to pay for education rather than put them out to the fields. Empowerment of women also helps enormously, whereby a man will not be able to make puppy mills out of his family to spread his progeny at the cost of the quality of everyones lives. Empowerment of women further increases education and the economy thus the system becomes a positive-feedback system.
But while the country is a 'third world' country with starving and overpopulated people, feeding them further will increase the population to the next point of saturation. Not feeding them now will get them to reach saturation with fewer people starving and suffering than if we feed them to the next point of saturation when fake meat production will not be able to sustain them.
I signed into mindpixel, and submitted my first mp. As I was typing the second one, it dawned on me that the project was not free. I looked around and couldnt find a spot to download mindpixels. Later I read that people who submit 'enough' mindpixels will be given shares in a subsequent company.
This is not only wrong, its surprising that you are posting it on slashdot of all the places. Youre planning to take public knowledge from the public, and what do you give back in return? I can come up with some algorithm, and try to parse mindpixels, but you own all the mindpixels in the first public frenzy, after which people will stop submitting mindpixels to every such database online.
'Mindpixels' should be free, and I'll wait till I see a free (GPL or otherwise) site where I can both submit and download all the 'mindpixels'. You can develop some algorithim or neural network and thats all yours. But leave the public knowledge so generously given to you in the name of science, to the public.
The best thing about opera when it started was its leanness. It fit on a floppy and was nothing but a fast browser. The best thing about firefox is that its just the browser.. lean and fast and small from the monolith Mozilla, the brontosaurus of browsers.
I actually went back to opera from firefox simply because I wanted more standards compliance, speed, less size and more simplicity. The ONLY feature on top of the browser that I use is the mouse gestures.
Now they're adding a bittorrent client, next they'll add email and IRC clients, next yahoo and msn messengers and throw in an HTML editor too while youre at it. Before you know it, it wont fit on a CD and another company that just makes browsers will take the market.
This will be the classic case of humans creating another species for their own use. We farm chickens, cows etc and slaughter them in colossal numbers for our own benefit. Neanderthals are a different species too, cant be called humans for that reason.
Thus it should be within our moral limits to create and utilize them for our own benefits.
Think of all manual labour done by these creatures. Or the entertainment value when they're hunted down just like our ancestors did. The military could use some serious target practice.
Why use robots when we have homonid yet non-human primates for utilization?
I really wonder what the religions will say of these people when they will exist again?
I dont know of the DoD, but some organizations will have to simultaneously use ipv6 to push the rest of the net over the hill.
Specifically the carriers (sprint, bell etc), the ISPs and the most popular websites like google should use the protocol.
If certain ISPs provide ipv6-only addresses, that will be a force.
This is best achieved if a government uses ipv4-only tax, but setting a tax on the Internet is a bad precedent anyway. Another idea is ARIN stopping to provide IPv4 addresses, forcing the use of ipv6, while some of the bigger sites simultaneously use it too.
Its a bit like the bringing about of communism, it'll take a forceful revolution, cant do it gradually.
Hmm I wonder why would anyone try to catch any fish at all?
Here in Canada thousands of fishermen travel big distances for bigger catches and always take their cameras with them. Sometimes barbecue equipment too.
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No theyre talking about the sourcecode. You cant have that for Tru64 from the HP hobbyist license.
There was a demo version of OS/2 floating around, the wikipedia article says so.
I have an alpha system, but cant pay the $99 for the hobbyist license of a dead OS (tru64 or openvms) . I can get demo versions of many other unices, and solaris for free.
Ooh share more!
Do you still have files in your temp folders to share with the WINEX project?
Hey their rockets may well work reliably.
Think of when India will send people up to compete with China, and Pakistan will send their own to compete with India. We'll run out of elbowroom on the moon.
And with that, we'll see the first spacesuits that can fit long beards. You can bet they'll all land on American soil and claim to be refugees!
and spend their remaining days driving yellow cabs downtown NYC.
Think Chinese food.
The whole reason why they would throw out the computer is because the 'cost' of 'fixing' it is higher than the cost of a new one. Some computer repair places work like car mechanic joints. A basic diagnostic takes $25, plus whatever else they might do in addition to the $50 or so hourly labour rate. Depending on what they think the problem is and how much time it takes them to reinstall all the software, and fix the drivers, it might as well exceed the cost of a basic celeron ECS computer with 256MB ram and 40gig harddisk.
Of course a 'factory restore' CD will be far simpler if it didnt ask too many questions, and simply reimaged the partition.
Makes me think if a company can sell 'fix your computer' windows install CDs which will simply format and reinstall windows and come with the largest driver collection to avoid issues.
Also if a knoppix CD would just install itself onto the harddisk and boot the disk without questions ( to run much faster), that would solve the problem.
They will just jack up the ink price further to make the final price even again. Makes me think the whole reason the head was on the cartridge was to make thirdparty cartridges difficult to make or copy.
We should all be exclusively using laserjets anyway, why is anyone happy the inkjet technology has a new lease on life?
DRAM uses a clock that refreshes the memory constantly. As a result only one transistor and a capacitor is required per bit. The same can be done for qbits.
However this will probably add to a similar latency as DRAM does vs SRAM. The only answer I can think of is using plain qbits (not refreshed qbits) in the cache of the CPU to speed it up, and hope most of the hits are while the data is good.
Even better is the synchronous (async? I forgot) computer which doesnt use a clock at all.
I think Intel and AMD will think of a way to sell such chips to us, and find ways to make em faster.
What is stability if the OS will be lost forever and the company bankupted?
At present the market kinda needs a desktop OS that can compete with the desktop os of majority. Both the graphic subsystem and windowing subsystem are kept at an arms length in Linux and BSD which makes em great server OSes, but they show significant latency compared to their main competitor. Both BeOS and SkyOS have it embedded in the kernel space, and quite honestly BeOS could do it but it died and was shelved by Palm Inc. SkyOS is simply too small right now to have any real chance. People will keep tweaking Linux and FreeBSD to get better latencies, which will never approach that of WindowsXP and OSX.
Instead of seeing dead OSes all around, OS2, Tru64, OpenVMS etc, I'd rather see them find refuge as a desktop OS that can seriously compete.
SGI was an innovative company; WAS because I havent seen much in the way of innovation from them recently. What are they now anyway, Itanium-workstation company? Good looking supercomputers? Yet another UNIX?
They gave us XFS and OpenGL, both are highly useful to Linux (I wonder if BSD will integrate XFS). Their workstations were great for CAD software, what happened there?
I'd like to see them blitz the market with cheaper but still powerful workstations. Would like to see them sell MIPS ATX boards for people to test their stuff while they work hard on their OS, removing X, integrating the graphics into the kernel like BeOS and skyos, sell SMP boards and machines upwards of 8 CPUs at the lowest cost possible etc. They should force their way back into the market rather than try to be the Apple of UNIX machines sitting up in a tree.
A mini-MIPS machine like the minimac wouldnt hurt either, if the OS is juiced up.
Most of the energy that reaches Earth is through the Sun. Lucky us, the Sun reaches almost all parts of the planet.
So the obvious forms of getting energy are solar panels, windmills and wave energy generators. And then theres also nuclear power which we're using so heavily already, while waiting for the long overdue success of the JET project.
The only real issue we face is transportation. I suspect electric trains, expansion of subways and electric busses will fix the problem once oil becomes scarce. we'll never completely run out of oil, so less frequent uses will remain like jet aircraft. Plastics will become more expensive, and the solution will be recycling and finding more organic alternatives.
We sure could learn alot from them, if only they had email addresses and a heavy web presence. I just couldnt find Amish blogs anywhere.
Was also looking for online webcams of the farms and possibly Amish sitcoms. None.
Maybe we can help by releasing an Amish language Linux distro. Yeah that'll do it.
Maybe if we made an Amish mod for half-life, more kids will be lured to the path of wrongness, reducing the community!
That, and of course porn!
At one point the MCSE became a joke (around 2000). The youngest person to pass the exam in Pakistan IIRC was an 11 year old kid, which appeared in the newspapers.
Later on, MCSE became tougher to deal with this, but the exam still aims for the largest market.
Now reading a book has never worked for me for computer certs. Just buy several cheap used computers, build a network and read braindumps. Works much better.
Why would you need books anyway?
The first step towards security is to reduce the services and access to only what you need and what you understand. If you see the service in.inetd, and have no clue what it does, or what needs it, kill it.
The second step is to read peoples experiences on how they got hacked and what did they do wrong. Skim over cert advisories.
Lastly keep the system patched up depending on the OS. Windows should be automatically updated between 10pm and 7am, dont make all machines DDOS your firewall. Linux needs patches depending on the distro and the BSDs rarely need patching at all (esp OpenBSD).
Different people have differing ideas on how to achieve security nirvana. My plan is to simply understand what does what, so I can monitor and keep things simple. And if there is a popular daemon that runs like bind or sendmail, keep it patched, and chrooted if possible.
Apart from that of course, the usual. Keep tough passwords, tighten the ACLs, block all irrelevant ports, chroot whatever is possible, keep a DMZ etc.
Theres your book.
I havent read the book. But some thoughts on that post:
The aim for C should not simply be to reduce the time spent on code, the simplistic economic view. Leave that to Java. C is for a clear and thorough understanding of the code's execution, more so than C++. The execution flow can very clearly be seen in this structured language which does not try to be smart or do things behind the wall in the compiler. C is brutal and raw, therefore low level and powerful. Leave it to that. C is great for kernel level programming, drivers and embedded systems, and other places where you get anal about control over whats happening. C is awesome when you need to mingle the code with assembly in tight spots and still keep things readable.
Please do not turn it into Java. Programmers who need to spend less time can just use Visual Basic or equivalents.
I like the idea of commenting on all parts of the standard. But you said you used a cognitive analysis of some sort. More so than that, I'd look for comments from experienced developers, maybe people who worked on various kernels and drivers, integrated various languages with C, developed C libraries and worked on a hundered-file projects.
A hint: I'm from the poorest asian country.
So wheres the xenophobia?
I've personally seen the mindset whereby the person wants to further his genes as much as possible, indeed in rural areas Muslim mullahs preach producing as many 'muslims' as is economically possible (read: food available). You cant blame me for being antimuslim either because I am one.
Like I said the two ways are education + womens sufferage. In combination that creates families which try to have few children and raise them the best they can. Actually another important ingredient is the healthcare. Where you have extremely high death rates before the child reaches reproductive-age, the society reacts by producing many children. Once they can be assured of the survival of their own children, believe me, they would rather educate the few kids the best they can and generally aim for a better quality of life.
What I hate to imagine is the case where massive amounts of food is provided to poor countries for several decades, and during a major famine, food is withheld causing the maximum amount of starvation. The type we saw in Ethiopia.
Most people would rather be forced to have few children than watch them die starving. Most of those would rather be forced by circumstances than the government. I'm all for creating such circumstances.
Glad to see someone else still kicking on the other side of the silicon curtain. MIPS, Alpha, HP-UX, Ultrasparc, m68k, Itanium are all more or less dead. The only players in the 32-bit/64-bit arena are x86(x64), PPC and ARM. ARM just isnt aiming for the same market, which really leaves PPC and x86/x64 for the Desktop AND the server market. Its amazing so many architectures are now powered by the same chips (mac, AS400, RS6000, game consoles, industrial VME cards) by PPC and everything else by x86/x64.
Personally I'd be glad to see x64-only chips with the 32-baggage dropped, and a BIOS standard that allows booting straight into 64-bit. That will really split the x64 from the x86, and give us cheaper and lighter chips. As for the PPC, I'm glad its still there. The price/performance ratio may be bad (relative to the Athlon64), but for one the base architecture is good, and diversity, which pushed semiconductors in general so far during the 90s is good for the industry.
Software for which source code is available (free or otherwise) is the only thing that can diversify the CPU market. People are stuck with a single CPU and operating system, both ill-designed, simply because their closed-source software will only run on that combination. Some awesome technologies like the Alpha chip, the Ultrasparc, the IRIX OS etc have died simply for that reason.
I say we do NOT use fake meat to feed the third worlds population. Heres why:
The idea is to reduce suffering. Right?
If we cannot eliminate it completely overnight, we have to aim for say fewer people dying of starvation. Right?
Now in many poor countries, people are like bacteria cultures. Add food, they'll increase in numbers. Reduce food, they'll starve in big numbers= starvation.
Eventually the population reaches an equiliberium like it is now in Pakistan. People simply cannot afford to have more kids. Food becomes more expensive as the population grows. The amount of food also fluctuates between the years. During the bad years you'll see maximum suffering in an overpopulated country.
The only break out of this is education and economy. People will realize their quality of life increases with fewer children if they have to pay for education rather than put them out to the fields. Empowerment of women also helps enormously, whereby a man will not be able to make puppy mills out of his family to spread his progeny at the cost of the quality of everyones lives. Empowerment of women further increases education and the economy thus the system becomes a positive-feedback system.
But while the country is a 'third world' country with starving and overpopulated people, feeding them further will increase the population to the next point of saturation. Not feeding them now will get them to reach saturation with fewer people starving and suffering than if we feed them to the next point of saturation when fake meat production will not be able to sustain them.
I signed into mindpixel, and submitted my first mp. As I was typing the second one, it dawned on me that the project was not free. I looked around and couldnt find a spot to download mindpixels. Later I read that people who submit 'enough' mindpixels will be given shares in a subsequent company.
This is not only wrong, its surprising that you are posting it on slashdot of all the places. Youre planning to take public knowledge from the public, and what do you give back in return? I can come up with some algorithm, and try to parse mindpixels, but you own all the mindpixels in the first public frenzy, after which people will stop submitting mindpixels to every such database online.
'Mindpixels' should be free, and I'll wait till I see a free (GPL or otherwise) site where I can both submit and download all the 'mindpixels'. You can develop some algorithim or neural network and thats all yours. But leave the public knowledge so generously given to you in the name of science, to the public.
Christianity:
Kill the godless Giants! Else God will send another flood (global warming)
Islam:
Theyre not believers and the meat is not halaal. Put them to work for glory!
Judasim:
Another race of people who will take the sacred land of Israel from the Chosen People. Loan them money and charge interest!
Hinduism:
Theyre untouchables. Just stay away.
Buddhism:
Peace dude! Theyre Yetis.
Warcraft players:
Farm them and arm them!
Counterstrike players:
Aimbots!
The best thing about opera when it started was its leanness. It fit on a floppy and was nothing but a fast browser. The best thing about firefox is that its just the browser.. lean and fast and small from the monolith Mozilla, the brontosaurus of browsers.
I actually went back to opera from firefox simply because I wanted more standards compliance, speed, less size and more simplicity. The ONLY feature on top of the browser that I use is the mouse gestures.
Now they're adding a bittorrent client, next they'll add email and IRC clients, next yahoo and msn messengers and throw in an HTML editor too while youre at it. Before you know it, it wont fit on a CD and another company that just makes browsers will take the market.
This will be the classic case of humans creating another species for their own use. We farm chickens, cows etc and slaughter them in colossal numbers for our own benefit. Neanderthals are a different species too, cant be called humans for that reason.
Thus it should be within our moral limits to create and utilize them for our own benefits.
Think of all manual labour done by these creatures. Or the entertainment value when they're hunted down just like our ancestors did. The military could use some serious target practice.
Why use robots when we have homonid yet non-human primates for utilization?
I really wonder what the religions will say of these people when they will exist again?
the Gates icon in slashdot.
I dont know of the DoD, but some organizations will have to simultaneously use ipv6 to push the rest of the net over the hill.
Specifically the carriers (sprint, bell etc), the ISPs and the most popular websites like google should use the protocol.
If certain ISPs provide ipv6-only addresses, that will be a force.
This is best achieved if a government uses ipv4-only tax, but setting a tax on the Internet is a bad precedent anyway. Another idea is ARIN stopping to provide IPv4 addresses, forcing the use of ipv6, while some of the bigger sites simultaneously use it too.
Its a bit like the bringing about of communism, it'll take a forceful revolution, cant do it gradually.
Hmm I wonder why would anyone try to catch any fish at all?
Here in Canada thousands of fishermen travel big distances for bigger catches and always take their cameras with them. Sometimes barbecue equipment too.
Sure beats me why.