I don't mind them harvesting my email address. They can do whatever they want to do with my address. They can read it, color it, print it, place it in a big database... It's public information, you're right.
I just don't want them to send me mails I did not ask for.
I use vi daily, but to get my job done I use IntelliJ IDEA for Java development. Intuitive, easy to remember shortcuts. That's the only non-free (as in beer) application on my Linux desktop.
There's a changelog for each entry. No one really stands behind it but the authors, but the change process is much more open than the one made by a real encyclopedia.
Do you trust more a single company than a group of people? I don't. They are equal to me. Open source works. I don't see why open content wouldn't work.
> And, personal discovery being inadmissable, it can never be a first-hand source of information either.
I doubt this to be a problem today. Things that end up in an encyclopedia are usually known things (they have been debated/published somewhere else). So I don't see why it would hinder Wikipedia in some way.
I've got a Sipura 2100 home, it handles SIP and I plug my phone in. I pay around 20 euros per month and got free phone calls in all the western world (and discounted prices in most if not all other areas).
It's not as good as Skype on the money side if you look at some places, but for my use, it's as good as Skype. It's also based on an open standard (which I care of) and a no brainer. No need of a PC.
BTW, I take it with me when I travel, I can have call transfer; conference, etc. I don't need skype. Now I just want my mobile phone to do Wifi...
Having much more information may make it easier, but surely must make it more stressful!!
Before you had to decide of one strategy, and let your guys fulfill it. Now you potentialy have to reevaluate your strategy each time you get new information.
So a charity with 40 billion $ is going to outweight a Software Industry worth of thousands of billion dollars. Now Bill Gates is a sort of Robin Hood. It stole from the rich to give to the poor.
Drug dealers in South America also benefit the poor peasants. I guess the end do justify the means:)
Let's be honest. We have no way to know whether Microsoft (and the resulting charity) had not been there, the world would be a better or worse place today.
I personally think that companies like Ubuntu create more value for the people. All the people.
The coolest part is the new Wifi gateway. If you have a Wifi enabled phone and free, the phone calls goes through VoIP when you are at home... and when you are close to another FreeBox!
So free phone calls from mobile to land line.
Now if you live in Paris, where many users have Free, the VoIP grid is getting big and you get you don't get to pay your landline phone calls (almost) wherever you are.
Testing is done by the softwares developer, not the packager.
BS!
repositories are just a tool to make your packages available. There are various degrees of public exposure and testing.
The real throuble with repositories is that they won't work at all for current software, they are great for yesterdays software.
BS!
Either your packages are shiny new (and only tested by their developers) either they are old and ironed out. You cannot claim both.
That again depend on the repository/distribution you point to.
Debian has stable, testing, unstable, experimental and then developer repositories for particular bleeding edge packages.
I already run Ubuntu 06.06 on 6 different machines. Do you really think that by the time it is out in June, only developers would have had access to the repositories? There are already thousands of users who are willing to help ironing out the latest bugs in exchange for running the latest and greatest. Same for every distribution.
And finally
multiple gigabytes installs are not something uncommon these days [...]
Nothing prevents a company to put their games on a online separate repository. Games are huge mostly because of the multimedia content. 1- it is easy to move this part of the game into a separate package 2- this part doesn't change much after a game has been released. So it's likely to not require a redownload when a software fix for the 3d engine appears.
So clearly it will take time to download a game, but at today's speed, getting 5G using a 10M connection is going to be much faster than getting 600M at 56k as I used to do 6 years ago. And maximising your 10M+ connection will easily be possible by adding P2P infrastructure to access the large package repositories. And it will cost much less to the game companies to distribute their products.
Except if the government does something about it. Where I live, entering the city with a car costs 2$. Cars are really heavily taxed. There are strict parking rules: e.g. park in an unauthorized space costs 100$. On the other side, public transportation.is good. I take the underground to the ski station during winter and the bus (or bike) to the beach in the summer. I bike to my office in the summer, and sometimes walk (45 min) when the weather allows it. And yet I live in a capital.
The result: I, like many, don't own a car, by choice. And we buy our food from the local grocery shops.
Of course the country is small, but had the government done nothing to fight against car invasion, we would be like any other European town.
Ah by the way, I live in Oslo, Norway. Talk about Quality of Life.
First you are comparing apple and oranges. Buy a PC preinstalled with Linux to compare it to your preinstalled Dell. And if you want a preinstalled Dell ask Dell.
And now even if you want to compare your pre-installed Dell to your Linux installation CD, your job isn't done with your Dell: it doesn't come with all the software you will need on your PC.
What about this driver for your wifi card you just bought (XP is not that knew)? What about Firefox, iTunes, gaim, etc...
From there, Linux wins hands up. It's about 4 clicks to install a program on Linux. While to install the same software on Windows you will have to find the installer (on the net or a CD), make sure it's not infected by a virus, run the installer, answer 1 to 5 questions, etc...
Otherwise, as I said, compare Linux installation and Windows XP installation (on supported systems) and Linux win hands up again.
Installing Ubuntu or any other clean Linux distrib today requires to answer about 3-4 questions. And 2 of these are for the language and keyboard you are going to use. Today a full Linux system is easier to install than a bare bone Windows PC (*) (**).
(*) If your system is supported and if your distrib distributes all the software you are after
With regard to voice quality, don't expect to run skype well on a 400 Mhz. I even had quality problems with a 750Mhz machine. At least that's not my experience.
me too. For my kids. And I don't understand why we shouldn't have the right to have ones. More sales -> price down -> better prices for poor countries.
And I bet that if this becomes reality, you will be able to find some here as well.
If you mean a pure OO language like Java, in which everything is an object except for primitives
stated elsewhere, this is contradictory. Try Python or Ruby.
it takes ten classes and wrappers just to read a file
ten classes might be too much. Sun went for flexibility and tried to give control to the programmer, exposing the API internals.
Java was not designed for quick and dirty applications. But noone prevents you to write your class that eases simple file reading.
E.g.
package util
class MyFileReader {
String readFile(File) {... }
}
In fact you find libraries that do that on the Net. Look at Jakarta commons.
Sun's API are a little bit raw in some areas. I think it was by intent. It's a trade of. They expected people to build on top of their fundations. They're not Microsoft.
I tell you what though, C++ is still around after all this time.
So it COBOL. Languages don't go away.
the god awful sytax Stroustrup left them with
C++ was *designed* to be like that. It had some requirements with regard to syntax being close to C. It requires discipline to use. But it's not that bad a language. Otherwise it wouldn't have been used as it has.
There is still no successor to C++.
successor for what goal? A language is a tool and not a universal solution.
Java is better for some tasks, so is Ruby, Python, C#.... C++ has its uses, but today, although I like it, I find myself much more productive using other languages.
Go and write a cross platform internationalized C++ web application with a thick client to communicate with. I wouldn't even know where to start.
Althought I am not an expert I worked on closed programs a couple of times.
And I think it is much easier to fix the broken open framework to make the closed module work (your case) than to fix the broken closed module to work in the open driver (kernel case).
Let's say they find an issue in a closed driver, what should they do? Send a binary patch to the authors? I'd rather have developers spend time fixing open drivers, that will make their time much more productive.
Everyone knows that information travels at the speed of light through the Internet. The mecanism known as the slashdotting effect, named after the Slashdot laboratory, has been known and used for years to slow down the flow of information. It achieves much better results than 1/300 th of the speed, sometimes eventually completely stopping the flow.
Completely unaffected by the IBM press release, the head of the Slashdot Research department, Mr CmdrTaco, let a laconic note on his blog: "been there, done that. Take that IBM!". IBM officials couldn't be reached for comments.
Slashdot Mirror
Don't forget alterslash....
I don't mind them harvesting my email address. They can do whatever they want to do with my address. They can read it, color it, print it, place it in a big database... It's public information, you're right.
I just don't want them to send me mails I did not ask for.
And extreme hacking is the famous Swordfish movie scene:
1 minute to crack a site, half-drunk, a lady under the table talking to your microphone, with a gun pointed to your head.
I use vi daily, but to get my job done I use IntelliJ IDEA for Java development. Intuitive, easy to remember shortcuts. That's the only non-free (as in beer) application on my Linux desktop.
> Wikipedia, however, cannot be cited.
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> Since articles change,
And real encyclopedia don't change ? That's an advantage of wikipedia actually. It gets updated faster than a real encyclopdia.
> and there is no way to reference a specific version of it,
Wrong. See this one http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiped
That's even better than a real encyclopedia because you have the full changelog.
E.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiped
> and noone will stand behind iot if it changes.
There's a changelog for each entry. No one really stands behind it but the authors, but the change process is much more open than the one made by a real encyclopedia.
Do you trust more a single company than a group of people? I don't. They are equal to me.
Open source works. I don't see why open content wouldn't work.
> And, personal discovery being inadmissable, it can never be a first-hand source of information either.
I doubt this to be a problem today. Things that end up in an encyclopedia are usually known things (they have been debated/published somewhere else). So I don't see why it would hinder Wikipedia in some way.
I've got a Sipura 2100 home, it handles SIP and I plug my phone in. I pay around 20 euros per month and got free phone calls in all the western world (and discounted prices in most if not all other areas).
It's not as good as Skype on the money side if you look at some places, but for my use, it's as good as Skype. It's also based on an open standard (which I care of) and a no brainer. No need of a PC.
BTW, I take it with me when I travel, I can have call transfer; conference, etc. I don't need skype. Now I just want my mobile phone to do Wifi...
Having much more information may make it easier, but surely must make it more stressful!!
Before you had to decide of one strategy, and let your guys fulfill it. Now you potentialy have to reevaluate your strategy each time you get new information.
You might want to read this: http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.ht ml
> there is nothing intrinsically wrong with using Windows (or indeed any given operating system) for a government agency.
I believe there's one wrong thing: support of non open standards, in particular NTFS. And with Windows comes Office and its closed format...
So a charity with 40 billion $ is going to outweight a Software Industry worth of thousands of billion dollars. Now Bill Gates is a sort of Robin Hood. It stole from the rich to give to the poor.
:)
Drug dealers in South America also benefit the poor peasants. I guess the end do justify the means
Let's be honest. We have no way to know whether Microsoft (and the resulting charity) had not been there, the world would be a better or worse place today.
I personally think that companies like Ubuntu create more value for the people. All the people.
It's spelled
22% Pick a Boob
The coolest part is the new Wifi gateway. If you have a Wifi enabled phone and free, the phone calls goes through VoIP when you are at home ... and when you are close to another FreeBox!
So free phone calls from mobile to land line.
Now if you live in Paris, where many users have Free, the VoIP grid is getting big and you get you don't get to pay your landline phone calls (almost) wherever you are.
Schlumberger bought Sema in Feb 2001 for 5.2B$ and sold it in Sep 2003 for 1.5 B$.
-3.7 B$ in 2.5 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlumberger_Limited
Testing is done by the softwares developer, not the packager.
BS!
repositories are just a tool to make your packages available. There are various degrees of public exposure and testing.
The real throuble with repositories is that they won't work at all for current software, they are great for yesterdays software.
BS!
Either your packages are shiny new (and only tested by their developers) either they are old and ironed out. You cannot claim both.
That again depend on the repository/distribution you point to.
Debian has stable, testing, unstable, experimental and then developer repositories for particular bleeding edge packages.
I already run Ubuntu 06.06 on 6 different machines. Do you really think that by the time it is out in June, only developers would have had access to the repositories? There are already thousands of users who are willing to help ironing out the latest bugs in exchange for running the latest and greatest. Same for every distribution.
And finally
multiple gigabytes installs are not something uncommon these days [...]
Nothing prevents a company to put their games on a online separate repository. Games are huge mostly because of the multimedia content.
1- it is easy to move this part of the game into a separate package
2- this part doesn't change much after a game has been released. So it's likely to not require a redownload when a software fix for the 3d engine appears.
So clearly it will take time to download a game, but at today's speed, getting 5G using a 10M connection is going to be much faster than getting 600M at 56k as I used to do 6 years ago. And maximising your 10M+ connection will easily be possible by adding P2P infrastructure to access the large package repositories. And it will cost much less to the game companies to distribute their products.
Come back read this in 10 years.
Except if the government does something about it. Where I live, entering the city with a car costs 2$. Cars are really heavily taxed. There are strict parking rules: e.g. park in an unauthorized space costs 100$. On the other side, public transportation.is good. I take the underground to the ski station during winter and the bus (or bike) to the beach in the summer. I bike to my office in the summer, and sometimes walk (45 min) when the weather allows it. And yet I live in a capital.
The result: I, like many, don't own a car, by choice. And we buy our food from the local grocery shops.
Of course the country is small, but had the government done nothing to fight against car invasion, we would be like any other European town.
Ah by the way, I live in Oslo, Norway. Talk about Quality of Life.
First you are comparing apple and oranges. Buy a PC preinstalled with Linux to compare it to your preinstalled Dell. And if you want a preinstalled Dell ask Dell.
And now even if you want to compare your pre-installed Dell to your Linux installation CD, your job isn't done with your Dell: it doesn't come with all the software you will need on your PC.
What about this driver for your wifi card you just bought (XP is not that knew)? What about Firefox, iTunes, gaim, etc...
From there, Linux wins hands up. It's about 4 clicks to install a program on Linux. While to install the same software on Windows you will have to find the installer (on the net or a CD), make sure it's not infected by a virus, run the installer, answer 1 to 5 questions, etc...
Otherwise, as I said, compare Linux installation and Windows XP installation (on supported systems) and Linux win hands up again.
Installing Ubuntu or any other clean Linux distrib today requires to answer about 3-4 questions. And 2 of these are for the language and keyboard you are going to use. Today a full Linux system is easier to install than a bare bone Windows PC (*) (**).
(*) If your system is supported and if your distrib distributes all the software you are after
(**) and that's also because XP is old now
With regard to voice quality, don't expect to run skype well on a 400 Mhz. I even had quality problems with a 750Mhz machine. At least that's not my experience.
Gnomemeeting is much less resource hungry.
I guess that the range Linux [2.6.16-2.6.999] doesn't count as many OSes, right?
:)
OK. I 'll pick:
Fedorard Core, Ubuntutnubu and Red Coco Linux, each with a different kernel, of course.
Then we can add, the BSD family and a couple of Mac OS XXX, and we've got enough.
I forgot the last new kid on the block: Open (Death) Solaris.
Do you need more?
me too. For my kids. And I don't understand why we shouldn't have the right to have ones.
More sales -> price down -> better prices for poor countries.
And I bet that if this becomes reality, you will be able to find some here as well.
If you mean a pure OO language like Java, in which everything is an object except for primitives stated elsewhere, this is contradictory. Try Python or Ruby. it takes ten classes and wrappers just to read a file ten classes might be too much. Sun went for flexibility and tried to give control to the programmer, exposing the API internals. Java was not designed for quick and dirty applications. But noone prevents you to write your class that eases simple file reading. E.g. package util class MyFileReader { String readFile(File) {... } } In fact you find libraries that do that on the Net. Look at Jakarta commons. Sun's API are a little bit raw in some areas. I think it was by intent. It's a trade of. They expected people to build on top of their fundations. They're not Microsoft. I tell you what though, C++ is still around after all this time. So it COBOL. Languages don't go away. the god awful sytax Stroustrup left them with C++ was *designed* to be like that. It had some requirements with regard to syntax being close to C. It requires discipline to use. But it's not that bad a language. Otherwise it wouldn't have been used as it has. There is still no successor to C++. successor for what goal? A language is a tool and not a universal solution. Java is better for some tasks, so is Ruby, Python, C#.... C++ has its uses, but today, although I like it, I find myself much more productive using other languages. Go and write a cross platform internationalized C++ web application with a thick client to communicate with. I wouldn't even know where to start.
s/open driver/open framework/
Althought I am not an expert I worked on closed programs a couple of times.
And I think it is much easier to fix the broken open framework to make the closed module work (your case) than to fix the broken closed module to work in the open driver (kernel case).
Let's say they find an issue in a closed driver, what should they do? Send a binary patch to the authors?
I'd rather have developers spend time fixing open drivers, that will make their time much more productive.
Noone is saying that they should fire their developers. :)
And don't tell me about the contractual obligations they have to third parties. If they really wanted to open source, they'd get a deal with them.
I hate it when my X crashes, I hate it that I cannot suspend my notebook using ACPI. I won't buy nvidia until I get open source drivers.
Now I am hoping for the open graphics project to succeed. http://wiki.duskglow.com/index.php/Open-Graphics
You judge stability after half a day?
Everyone knows that information travels at the speed of light through the Internet. The mecanism known as the slashdotting effect, named after the Slashdot laboratory, has been known and used for years to slow down the flow of information. It achieves much better results than 1/300 th of the speed, sometimes eventually completely stopping the flow.
Completely unaffected by the IBM press release, the head of the Slashdot Research department, Mr CmdrTaco, let a laconic note on his blog: "been there, done that. Take that IBM!". IBM officials couldn't be reached for comments.