Spot on. Until now we've been relying on Cogent as our sole internet provider, which we've been cursing ourselves for the last couple of days.
We're a pretty large IT cooperation between colleges and business colleges in denmark, and this bit of fun has just meant that around 20% of our users can't reach our servers over the internet.
And what awfull timing, almost ruining easter holidays. Lot's of overtime setting up a new internet connection parallel with the one we've already got and the internal routing hell that then ensues when you're not multi homed.
Well. We've learned our lesson and are taking steps to become multi homed as quickly as we possibly can. I don't know if we'll consider Cogent as a partner in the future. They may be cheap but this kind of idiocy is hardly confidence inspiring.
No one bothers to write in anonymously. Unlike Group Hug and other anonymous confession sites, which allow users to spill all without revealing their identities, messages to tired@tired.com are sent from the visitor's own e-mail client. Gripes about husbands, wives, children, and commanding officers come signed with the sender's real name and address.
Perhaps they were too tired to think of the consequences.;)
I am reasonably certain that the only reason (today) that everyone uses Windows is because everyone uses Windows.
I'm reasonably certain that you're wrong.
Personally I use windows because I choose to. Why? Better hardware support, apps I don't want to do without and the occasional game.
I've tried Linux regularly since Redhat 4.2, and I basically think Linux seems like a fine OS. But guess what? I don't really care what OS I'm running as long as I can use the programs I like, and can do what I want.
I've thought about running things with Wine or installing VMWare and running my windows apps this way. But every time I just stop short, because it doesn't seem worth the effort. I can't find Linux' killer app.
Linux needs to be able to do something, that I can't do with Windows, and that I would actually want to do.:-)
All the arguments about bugs and security don't work on me. I'm pretty well firewalled, and I choose my hardware with care. I can't remember the last time I experienced a blue screen but its several years ago..
I'm using lots of open source software, and I think open source is a great movement.. But I'm always going to use the tool that fits the task, and doesn't steal my time away from reading Slashdot.;-)
Perhaps the introduction of DRM in Windows, will be what gives me enough incentive to switch to Linux..
Quote from the above linked page: Unlike other traffic shaping packages which run in userland, dummynet has a very little overhead, as all processing is done within the kernel. There is no data copying involved to move packets through pipes, just a bit of pointer shuffling, and the implementation is able to handle thousands of pipes with O(log N) cost, where N is the number of active pipes.
All you need is an old PC, two NICs. You can boot Dummynet (running on PicoBSD) from a floppy..
I have a 2048/512 kbit/s ADSL connection with TDC in Denmark. It costs me roughly $135 pr month.
This probably sounds insane to an american, but the upside is that I actually have 2048/512 at all hours of the day, next to no downtime, a static IP, and unlimited trafic. How unlimited? Well, I average a couple of hundred GB pr month without complaint (only linux ISO's, I swear!;-)).
I'm pretty happy with the connection, especially since I have no problem getting full connection speed to practically any server that can keep up.
The loud, twitchy, obnoxious, guy everyone is trying to stay away from better not have the same likes and dislikes as you - or 'Beep! Beep! Beep!' the badge will let him know you are a potential friend.
Easy! Substitute sound with a vibrator of the like used in mobile phones. You can be notified without running the risk of detection. If you don't see anybody threatening around, you raise a hand - if someone else doesn't find you obnoxious he/she can react.
Either way, even obnoxious people will make your nipple hard.;-)
Would you care to guestimate the cost of training users? Employing linux administrators? converting existing data? Support?
Do you really think planners in business and the government base their decisions solely on what it costs to aquire the software?
Sorry to pick on you - your post was obviously a joke, but also a misconception IMO.
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Why do you assume, that the highest calling of any opensource developer is to have a huge userbase?
If the user doesn't like the product, the user is free to:
a) Modify the product. (Ta-daa! It's Open Source!) b) Pay someone else to modify the product.
The Linux companies, like Red Hat, have to worry about user acceptance. Unpaid developers are not, and should not, in any way feel obligated, to make their free software commercially succesful.
When that's all said, I do agree that the Linux Companies need to understand mainstream customers better, and offer better solutions for those users.
I happen to have family living in Norway, so I've been exposed to norwegian press on several occasions..
The two primary tv stations (NRK & TV2) are quite biased both in the way they decide which stories to bring, and in the angles they bring. Pro palestine, pro socialdemocrats, against USA, etc..
The newspapers are fairly biased as well..
The bias is pretty much one way, so most people see right through it, and interpret the news accordingly.:-)
Norway possibly has a fair amount of freedom, but no objective newssource IMHO.
In the country I live in - Denmark - we pay fairly hefty "green" taxes on heat, electricity and fossil fuels. There are large taxes on cars that polute more. There are lots of regulations that force businesses to implement green initiatives in order to polute less. A fixed part of our electricity is produced by green sources, such as windpower, at approximately double the price.
This does "no harm"?
I agree that we need to take environmental precautions - I certainly support all measures that reduce air and water polution - but the Global Warming initiatives I'm alot more sceptical about. We know far too little about how the ecosystem works.
Reducing CO2 emission costs a LOT of money - and I'm certainly not paying for it, if it serves no purpose.
Slashdot Mirror
Spot on. Until now we've been relying on Cogent as our sole internet provider, which we've been cursing ourselves for the last couple of days.
We're a pretty large IT cooperation between colleges and business colleges in denmark, and this bit of fun has just meant that around 20% of our users can't reach our servers over the internet.
And what awfull timing, almost ruining easter holidays. Lot's of overtime setting up a new internet connection parallel with the one we've already got and the internal routing hell that then ensues when you're not multi homed.
Well. We've learned our lesson and are taking steps to become multi homed as quickly as we possibly can. I don't know if we'll consider Cogent as a partner in the future. They may be cheap but this kind of idiocy is hardly confidence inspiring.
So if you don't look dorky enough with a calculator and 5 ball-pens in your pocket, you can always tape a battery to your forhead.
No one bothers to write in anonymously. Unlike Group Hug and other anonymous confession sites, which allow users to spill all without revealing their identities, messages to tired@tired.com are sent from the visitor's own e-mail client. Gripes about husbands, wives, children, and commanding officers come signed with the sender's real name and address.
;)
Perhaps they were too tired to think of the consequences.
I am reasonably certain that the only reason (today) that everyone uses Windows is because everyone uses Windows.
:-)
;-)
I'm reasonably certain that you're wrong.
Personally I use windows because I choose to. Why? Better hardware support, apps I don't want to do without and the occasional game.
I've tried Linux regularly since Redhat 4.2, and I basically think Linux seems like a fine OS. But guess what? I don't really care what OS I'm running as long as I can use the programs I like, and can do what I want.
I've thought about running things with Wine or installing VMWare and running my windows apps this way. But every time I just stop short, because it doesn't seem worth the effort. I can't find Linux' killer app.
Linux needs to be able to do something, that I can't do with Windows, and that I would actually want to do.
All the arguments about bugs and security don't work on me. I'm pretty well firewalled, and I choose my hardware with care. I can't remember the last time I experienced a blue screen but its several years ago..
I'm using lots of open source software, and I think open source is a great movement.. But I'm always going to use the tool that fits the task, and doesn't steal my time away from reading Slashdot.
Perhaps the introduction of DRM in Windows, will be what gives me enough incentive to switch to Linux..
Dummynet
Quote from the above linked page:
Unlike other traffic shaping packages which run in userland, dummynet has a very little overhead, as all processing is done within the kernel. There is no data copying involved to move packets through pipes, just a bit of pointer shuffling, and the implementation is able to handle thousands of pipes with O(log N) cost, where N is the number of active pipes.
All you need is an old PC, two NICs. You can boot Dummynet (running on PicoBSD) from a floppy..
Bwahahaa!
Could you please explain how that is even marginally relevant?
If a very small country has even one prolific spammer, then that country would have the most amount of spam pr capita. Signifying what?
Perhaps that is what the 'tanto' (a short knife) is for..
The katana is probably just extra service, in case Gates can find someone willing to behead him and stop his most painfull and honorable suicide.
The art of Seppukku
Agreed.
But what do you propose we do until then? I figure it will take atleast 3-4 decades before such at turn around.
What about this generation? What's in it for us?
I have a 2048/512 kbit/s ADSL connection with TDC in Denmark. It costs me roughly $135 pr month.
;-)).
This probably sounds insane to an american, but the upside is that I actually have 2048/512 at all hours of the day, next to no downtime, a static IP, and unlimited trafic. How unlimited? Well, I average a couple of hundred GB pr month without complaint (only linux ISO's, I swear!
I'm pretty happy with the connection, especially since I have no problem getting full connection speed to practically any server that can keep up.
Wouldn't that be "freedom beer"?
The loud, twitchy, obnoxious, guy everyone is trying to stay away from better not have the same likes and dislikes as you - or 'Beep! Beep! Beep!' the badge will let him know you are a potential friend.
;-)
Easy! Substitute sound with a vibrator of the like used in mobile phones. You can be notified without running the risk of detection. If you don't see anybody threatening around, you raise a hand - if someone else doesn't find you obnoxious he/she can react.
Either way, even obnoxious people will make your nipple hard.
You're new here, aren't you? ;-)
"US Army Signs $0 Deal for Linux Software"
Would you care to guestimate the cost of training users? Employing linux administrators? converting existing data? Support?
Do you really think planners in business and the government base their decisions solely on what it costs to aquire the software?
Sorry to pick on you - your post was obviously a joke, but also a misconception IMO.
Why do you assume, that the highest calling of any opensource developer is to have a huge userbase?
If the user doesn't like the product, the user is free to:
a) Modify the product. (Ta-daa! It's Open Source!)
b) Pay someone else to modify the product.
The Linux companies, like Red Hat, have to worry about user acceptance. Unpaid developers are not, and should not, in any way feel obligated, to make their free software commercially succesful.
When that's all said, I do agree that the Linux Companies need to understand mainstream customers better, and offer better solutions for those users.
Must've been a baby-bell! ;)
I happen to have family living in Norway, so I've been exposed to norwegian press on several occasions..
:-)
The two primary tv stations (NRK & TV2) are quite biased both in the way they decide which stories to bring, and in the angles they bring. Pro palestine, pro socialdemocrats, against USA, etc..
The newspapers are fairly biased as well..
The bias is pretty much one way, so most people see right through it, and interpret the news accordingly.
Norway possibly has a fair amount of freedom, but no objective newssource IMHO.
HAND
It's quite massive.
:-)
It's lucky then, that it is an alpha board, isn't it?
Go read this thread at MURC
What do you mean "no harm"?
In the country I live in - Denmark - we pay fairly hefty "green" taxes on heat, electricity and fossil fuels. There are large taxes on cars that polute more. There are lots of regulations that force businesses to implement green initiatives in order to polute less. A fixed part of our electricity is produced by green sources, such as windpower, at approximately double the price.
This does "no harm"?
I agree that we need to take environmental precautions - I certainly support all measures that reduce air and water polution - but the Global Warming initiatives I'm alot more sceptical about. We know far too little about how the ecosystem works.
Reducing CO2 emission costs a LOT of money - and I'm certainly not paying for it, if it serves no purpose.
Just my 0.2 euro.