The new browsers FINALLY support standards recommended years ago. This allows individuals on any platform (your Linux, my Mac, their Windows) to see and use web pages equally. Netscape 4 is old tech with horrible standards support. Netscape 6 is much better and gets props for displaying identically for every platform. If you have issues w/ N6 or can't/won't use IE 5.5, go get Opera. It is important or otherwise we end up "MS Internet 3.0, optimized for IE 6.5 on Windows XP SP 2" that works bugger-all on anything else not affiliated...
I'm a web developer that started as a graphics guy. I have since learned about databases and JavaScript and ASP because I wanted to be able to do stuff. Don't get me wrong - the money is nice, but it was never my motivation. I have looked at C++ and Perl and Java and VB out of curiosity and some need, and one day after I stop being terrified I might look at Assembler.
I have two Macs. The Ruby iMac 400 has no fan. My Powerbook may as well not have one for as often as it comes into use - and I use this computer all day long.
It is my understanding that the M$ software for Mac is developed by a fairly autonomous group. Whatever the situation, they have recently released some great 'very Mac' software in IE and Outlook Express, although they did wierdly reinvent some things for OE. Sadly, IE 5 for Mac is miles ahead of Netscape/Mozilla, and iCab isn't quite there yet.
My point is that MS can make good software, if you judge software by the expectations of the majority of the users of the targeted platform. What does this mean for Linux if/when Office and IE are ported? How would Office for Linux have to be different than Office for Win and Office for Mac to truly be a Linux application worth using?
From the outside, the coolest and most admirable thing about the Linux community is Open Source and everything implied by that. I don't think MS could release a real Linux app, if this is held to be fundamental to truly be considered as a Linux app.
I'm not sure what this means...
_Instead, Microsoft will leverage Linux as an entry point to Windows, "in the same way it does with the Macintosh version of Office."_
'actly.. Titan AE didn't suck because of the animation- it was the story. Chicken Run, as a timely comparison, is much more engaging and not intellectually insulting to watch (as an adult viewer). Titan AE is just dumb is all...
As much as it may or may not work w/ the gov't, we have no Constitution to protect us from the actions of corporations.
Corporations work to increase profit. Thats is all. They almost always only embrace other actions when it will work for them financially short or long term. When a corporation makes a a social action not related to immediate profit, the motive is to increase positive mindshare among consumers so that the corporation will continue to exist and make money. This gives them little incentive other than fear to have any concern for workers rights, the environment, or the social fabric of the communities that they impact (how many small restaurants has McDonalds shut down? what about Target or Wal-Mart and the number of independent shopowners that they have thrown out of business?)
http://www.adbusters.org/ | for some more information - these guys put together some strong words and graphics that frame this discussion in contemporary terms
The original point was that people (typical consumers) buy these systems because that have heard of the guys that make/sell them and can have a decent expectation that everything will work w/out them having to know any of this stuff.
I think that I was just pointing out some of the benifits of an integrated hardware/software platform as far as the non-tech consumer experience goes. And DELL just burns my ass.
It would seem to be only 2/3 of a solution to have one office suite replace another. We would still have a situation where certain users would be unable to play if that particular software weren't available for their platform, with Star and Mac OS as an example. Nothing will really change until open standards are adopted for these types of documents.
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s/he said this much better than I ever could have, but hits DEAD ON my experience w/ local cable (f*cking Adelphia). How do we stop this?
Freedom of religion only extends as far as there is a Jesuus involved...
and if you want some good Ed Norton, go rent American History X...
I ljust love those little iMacs - 10 minutes out of the box and I was online, serving up web pages from my Apache server.
HA HA HA H AAH HAHHA HHAAH HHAAA AAAA
So I just installed OS X right? And Terminal gives that command line thingy right? And all I know how to do are ping things and look at man pages...
"easily using native Linux applications" - I didin't know that this was possible even under Linux... Smile, dammit - I'm a disfunctional Mac user...
The upgrade is about standards.
The new browsers FINALLY support standards recommended years ago. This allows individuals on any platform (your Linux, my Mac, their Windows) to see and use web pages equally. Netscape 4 is old tech with horrible standards support. Netscape 6 is much better and gets props for displaying identically for every platform. If you have issues w/ N6 or can't/won't use IE 5.5, go get Opera. It is important or otherwise we end up "MS Internet 3.0, optimized for IE 6.5 on Windows XP SP 2" that works bugger-all on anything else not affiliated...
I'm a web developer that started as a graphics guy. I have since learned about databases and JavaScript and ASP because I wanted to be able to do stuff. Don't get me wrong - the money is nice, but it was never my motivation. I have looked at C++ and Perl and Java and VB out of curiosity and some need, and one day after I stop being terrified I might look at Assembler.
I have two Macs. The Ruby iMac 400 has no fan. My Powerbook may as well not have one for as often as it comes into use - and I use this computer all day long.
If you like metal for the sound but not the lyrics, find something by Breadwinner... sick math-metal w/ no vocals. They will change you...
i wish had mod points today, that junk is funny...
It is my understanding that the M$ software for Mac is developed by a fairly autonomous group. Whatever the situation, they have recently released some great 'very Mac' software in IE and Outlook Express, although they did wierdly reinvent some things for OE. Sadly, IE 5 for Mac is miles ahead of Netscape/Mozilla, and iCab isn't quite there yet.
My point is that MS can make good software, if you judge software by the expectations of the majority of the users of the targeted platform. What does this mean for Linux if/when Office and IE are ported? How would Office for Linux have to be different than Office for Win and Office for Mac to truly be a Linux application worth using?
From the outside, the coolest and most admirable thing about the Linux community is Open Source and everything implied by that. I don't think MS could release a real Linux app, if this is held to be fundamental to truly be considered as a Linux app.
Jobs touts the iMac as an Internet Appliance, right? And LinuxPPC + others are there...
I'm not sure what this means... _Instead, Microsoft will leverage Linux as an entry point to Windows, "in the same way it does with the Macintosh version of Office."_
I'm unfamiliar w/ the site. Anybody care to enlighten me?
$3 for 60 pages? and no middle man, no hard copy, no paper? Its a ripoff... I dinna pay and ain't gonna.
'actly.. Titan AE didn't suck because of the animation- it was the story. Chicken Run, as a timely comparison, is much more engaging and not intellectually insulting to watch (as an adult viewer). Titan AE is just dumb is all...
The original point was that people (typical consumers) buy these systems because that have heard of the guys that make/sell them and can have a decent expectation that everything will work w/out them having to know any of this stuff.
I think that I was just pointing out some of the benifits of an integrated hardware/software platform as far as the non-tech consumer experience goes. And DELL just burns my ass.
try and buy [ a Macintosh] with a Zip disk, DVD, and built-in wireless networking... damn that was EASY
It would seem to be only 2/3 of a solution to have one office suite replace another. We would still have a situation where certain users would be unable to play if that particular software weren't available for their platform, with Star and Mac OS as an example. Nothing will really change until open standards are adopted for these types of documents.