[ACL] don't come as part of Linux as standard, but there are extensions.
Bingo, a truly secure OS has built-in ACLs all over the place. Back in the 1980s even the most zealous UNIX advocates would openly admit that the unix security model was flawed, as most of those users were also familiar with highly secure mainframes back then.
Today most users come from the Wintel world. Unix security is way better than windows, so they conclude the unix security must be good: it isn't; only in comparison to windows does it look acceptable. But dare mention this simple fact in/. and watch the kids mod you down (not that I care, I have karma to burn).
I was installing apps on UNIX without root access and for personal use twenty years ago.
I've used Unix for nearly twenty years. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of serious applications (as opposed to self-made perl hacks one drops in $HOME/bin) that can be installed in Unix without root privileges. In fact that was one of the few things I liked about the PC world: you could bring your app on a floppy and run it, no installation required. This is one of those rare cases (but not the only one) where Unix should have moved towards windows, rather than the other way around.
No. This is only the case in the retarded unix security model where you are either a luser or root. [side note: surprisingly enough, of all the security models out there Windows choose to follow weakest one, i.e. unix, rather than a more secure mainframe model].
An application ought to be able to declare itself to the operating system without having to be (a) superuser or (b) be able to step over the toes of other applications and/or users.
[it's a tree structure] but so is/etc if you think about it.
Only under the most rudimentary definition of tree. When a configuration file can be a perl script or a procmail script calling this a "tree" is stretching the term.
or what if any aspects of the windows registry make it a better choice.
Single repository with a well defined syntax.
By the way, calling/etc the equivalent of the registry is actually doing a favour to *nix. For one that isn't even a standard. Some applications create their own.config directories wherever they best please or plonk it in other parts of the system, so one has to "find / -print" the entire file system searching for the required config file...
I would implement the registry as a DB using XML syntax with a sophisticated set of perms (for one a serious security system remembers both the user who created the data and the app who posted it, as old mainframes used to do. Mod perms should be derived from that.)
Eerh.... you are confusing the claims of relatively modern Chinese discovering America, for which there is no proof, with the mongols who crossed the frozen Behring straight during the ice ages and for which the proof is the millions of native people living here, from Alaska to Southern Chile and whose DNA is closest to those of mongolian tribes.
And the mongols discovered America at least 13,000 years before that, when they crossed the Behring straight. But that one doesn't count because they weren't white.
The registry is a good thing [hear me out, before you mod me down]
The windows implementation of the registry stinks, but otherwise having a central well-organized repository of your system setup is clearly good.
As bad as the registry is, the *nix solution is even worse: the mishmash of/etc files each with its own arcane syntax and command incantations.
Clearly a modern operating system needs something like the windows registry but implemented in a way that is not so easy to subvert or make the system unstable.
This might just be a/. variation on the factual test applied to gray boxes in the 1980s: "it ain't really IBM PC compatible until it runs Lotus 1-2-3 and draws a chart".
The process of Apple coming back to life has proven Apple critics right. Apple needed cheaper computers, a switch to intel architecture, dump the old MacOS (pre-X), adopt the multibutton mouse, create a back-end server... what is left in the laundry list? bring back Newton, develop a multimedia appliance...
I know for a fact that IBM looked into all available Linux compatible TCP/IP stacks in 2001 and found them incredibly defficient (including among its many flaws having to shift every byte sent du to improper word alignment!!). They went about rewriting the whole thing. I don't know if the mods were ever made public, though.
How do you get the light in? The refractive index of glass is such that the angle of an incident light beam gets closer to normal (perpendicular to the interface plane), compared to the source.
This is a geometric problem which has been solved by mathematicians. The light trap looks like an egg with part of the lateral wall removed. The "egg" itself is made of portions of a paraboloid and an ellipsoid. The light gets trapped in the ellipsoid, bouncing on a trajectory ever closer to the major axis of the ellipsoid, i.e. the line joining the foci.
Of course it would make a hell of a lot more sense to have mission control in Cape Canaveral, but Lyndon Johnson was a Senator from Texas, and the rest, as they say, is history.
People wonder why no one is going into CS anymore.
Actually employment stats bottomed in 2002 and have been picking up since. At the same time a lot of people are making the same mistake you did, which is reading too much in to the random firing.
In sum the overall picture is something like IT employment down 10% but rising back up, CS enrolment down 50% and falling.
Guess what that translates into? A shortage of CSers four years from now.
You're making it sound like those os' have been stagnant for 25 years well newsflash THEY'RE NOT
Actually they pretty much are. Unix has seen no substantial changes since the networking facilities were made standard and X11 was brought in.
Mach (which is the microkernel version of Unix) is not stagnant, but linux is not based on it. Old Linux still uses the same security model as the original unix, the same user model, the same "everything is a file model", the same primitive "ugo" permission access sytem, and on and on.
You are right. A friend avoided a major collision by smartly avoiding a car who was turning and invading his lane. In the process he barely brushed a car travelling on the opposite direction (damage was superficial, requiring a $100 paint job). The car that invaded his lane ended crumpled up on a street post on its own as the driver was drunk.
My friend should have gotten a medal for avoiding what could have been a fatal multi-car collision. Instead he got a ticket for brushing the car on the opposite direction. The case went to court and the judge ruled against him.
Yes, Linux is 25 year old technology and yes, the IETF has lost its engineering drive. Those two statements are so true and obvious that the almost don't warrant discussion.
They are on par with "Microsoft is a monopoly".
The only distinction among them is that the latter is an accepted truth while the former two go against the grain of what people would like to think. Hence we'll see a large number of really upset/.ers debating those basic truths.
This is exactly why China isn't (yet) much of a long term economic threat to the US. So long as they keep these type outmoded policies and attitudes their economic growth will eventually run into them and bring the expansion to a halt.
It happened to Japan when a recession tested their political system and made it fail. The main party split into many factions and a long succession of lame duck Prime Ministers took over. Fifteen years later Japan is still nowhere to be found in the "economic threat" radar screen. (For those of you who are too young to remember this, rent and watch "Back to the Future III" to get an idea of the perspective on Japan at the time.)
Actually each position was in a different city. Here are some suggestions for people searching for jobs:
(a) Search across the country. Focus particularly for jobs in smaller cities that traditionally have a hard time attracting IT personnel.
(b) Search abroad. Canada, Ireland, UK, and, if you can handle the language, Germany, which are places often short on IT personnel.
(c) Focus our search on fields where you can leverage your expertise. If you spent the last four years doing say, scientific measurement equipment software, search for openings in other companies that are doing the same thing.
(d) Forget about the big names, go for the small companies. These ones have a hard time getting themselves noticed among thousands of ads.
(e) Search for software ads in the specialized magazines on the field of your previous experience, then visit the web sites and see if there are job openings. You won't find many openings that way, but when you do, you'll certainly be in the final top-three candidates list.
(f) If your skills have become somewhat outmoded use the downtime to learn new things such as PHP, Java, C#, UML, XML, OS X. Also focus particularly on those ones that appear often in job ads for which you are otherwise qualified.
(g) Network like hell. Call each and everyone of your former classmates. You did keep every business card that was handed to you in your previous job, didn't you? e-mail each one of them and let them know you are looking for a job.
(h) Attend the local hi-tech events from the chamber of commerce or similar such and network there too.
(i) Participate in an Open Source project on a hot app. Once you've made your mark on the OSS project call companies that are related to that. Hypothetical example: work on ggv for a while and once you've added some cool features apply for a job in Adobe.
Even pre-IPO they were offering over $200K to some not-so-well known academics. C'mon, part of being a good corporate citizen is paying people what they are worth.
I know money isn't everything. Still there is no reason why $80B market-cap Google could not match Pike's Bell labs salary, other than being cheap that is.
There is such an oversaturation of qualified people in the current tech job market, that unless you're sending a tailored resume AND cover letter, it's just going in the trash.
This is not what we see here. We advertise for a position and there is an oversaturation of two-year college html writers who think they are programmers because they can put together twenty lines of php.
In particular, for each of the last five positions we had open the most we got was three resumes that truly met the required qualifications.
This culture has been crushed into line-toeing, bootlicking mediocrity by Microsoft management. They're great for incremental updates in line with whatever upper-management mandate Bill has in mind this year and aping what smaller competitors are doing, but they suck at breaking new ground.
I tried to make this point to some higher ups at Microsoft last year. Somehow I don't think I managed to convince them of the need for a different culture @ MSN search.
In politics, like in Poker, you have to play the hand you are dealt, not the one you wanted to have.
The US is a 100 miles from Cuba and a superpower always willing to "flex it's muscles". None of that is a new development. Fidel Castro should have played his hand taking this into consideration (see realpolitik for an example of a politician taking geographic realities into account).
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[ACL] don't come as part of Linux as standard, but there are extensions.
/. and watch the kids mod you down (not that I care, I have karma to burn).
Bingo, a truly secure OS has built-in ACLs all over the place. Back in the 1980s even the most zealous UNIX advocates would openly admit that the unix security model was flawed, as most of those users were also familiar with highly secure mainframes back then.
Today most users come from the Wintel world. Unix security is way better than windows, so they conclude the unix security must be good: it isn't; only in comparison to windows does it look acceptable. But dare mention this simple fact in
I was installing apps on UNIX without root access and for personal use twenty years ago.
I've used Unix for nearly twenty years. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of serious applications (as opposed to self-made perl hacks one drops in $HOME/bin) that can be installed in Unix without root privileges. In fact that was one of the few things I liked about the PC world: you could bring your app on a floppy and run it, no installation required. This is one of those rare cases (but not the only one) where Unix should have moved towards windows, rather than the other way around.
Your central repository implies admin privs,
/etc if you think about it.
/etc the equivalent of the registry is actually doing a favour to *nix. For one that isn't even a standard. Some applications create their own .config directories wherever they best please or plonk it in other parts of the system, so one has to "find / -print" the entire file system searching for the required config file...
No. This is only the case in the retarded unix security model where you are either a luser or root. [side note: surprisingly enough, of all the security models out there Windows choose to follow weakest one, i.e. unix, rather than a more secure mainframe model].
An application ought to be able to declare itself to the operating system without having to be (a) superuser or (b) be able to step over the toes of other applications and/or users.
[it's a tree structure] but so is
Only under the most rudimentary definition of tree. When a configuration file can be a perl script or a procmail script calling this a "tree" is stretching the term.
or what if any aspects of the windows registry make it a better choice.
Single repository with a well defined syntax.
By the way, calling
I would implement the registry as a DB using XML syntax with a sophisticated set of perms (for one a serious security system remembers both the user who created the data and the app who posted it, as old mainframes used to do. Mod perms should be derived from that.)
Eerh.... you are confusing the claims of relatively modern Chinese discovering America, for which there is no proof, with the mongols who crossed the frozen Behring straight during the ice ages and for which the proof is the millions of native people living here, from Alaska to Southern Chile and whose DNA is closest to those of mongolian tribes.
And the mongols discovered America at least 13,000 years before that, when they crossed the Behring straight. But that one doesn't count because they weren't white.
The registry is a good thing [hear me out, before you mod me down]
/etc files each with its own arcane syntax and command incantations.
The windows implementation of the registry stinks, but otherwise having a central well-organized repository of your system setup is clearly good.
As bad as the registry is, the *nix solution is even worse: the mishmash of
Clearly a modern operating system needs something like the windows registry but implemented in a way that is not so easy to subvert or make the system unstable.
This might just be a /. variation on the factual test applied to gray boxes in the 1980s: "it ain't really IBM PC compatible until it runs Lotus 1-2-3 and draws a chart".
The process of Apple coming back to life has proven Apple critics right. Apple needed cheaper computers, a switch to intel architecture, dump the old MacOS (pre-X), adopt the multibutton mouse, create a back-end server... what is left in the laundry list? bring back Newton, develop a multimedia appliance...
I know for a fact that IBM looked into all available Linux compatible TCP/IP stacks in 2001 and found them incredibly defficient (including among its many flaws having to shift every byte sent du to improper word alignment!!). They went about rewriting the whole thing. I don't know if the mods were ever made public, though.
How do you get the light in? The refractive index of glass is such that the angle of an incident light beam gets closer to normal (perpendicular to the interface plane), compared to the source.
This is a geometric problem which has been solved by mathematicians. The light trap looks like an egg with part of the lateral wall removed. The "egg" itself is made of portions of a paraboloid and an ellipsoid. The light gets trapped in the ellipsoid, bouncing on a trajectory ever closer to the major axis of the ellipsoid, i.e. the line joining the foci.
Of course it would make a hell of a lot more sense to have mission control in Cape Canaveral, but Lyndon Johnson was a Senator from Texas, and the rest, as they say, is history.
People wonder why no one is going into CS anymore.
Actually employment stats bottomed in 2002 and have been picking up since. At the same time a lot of people are making the same mistake you did, which is reading too much in to the random firing.
In sum the overall picture is something like IT employment down 10% but rising back up, CS enrolment down 50% and falling.
Guess what that translates into? A shortage of CSers four years from now.
You're making it sound like those os' have been stagnant for 25 years well newsflash THEY'RE NOT
Actually they pretty much are. Unix has seen no substantial changes since the networking facilities were made standard and X11 was brought in.
Mach (which is the microkernel version of Unix) is not stagnant, but linux is not based on it. Old Linux still uses the same security model as the original unix, the same user model, the same "everything is a file model", the same primitive "ugo" permission access sytem, and on and on.
OSX is perfect. Now pass the Kool-aid.
You are right. A friend avoided a major collision by smartly avoiding a car who was turning and invading his lane. In the process he barely brushed a car travelling on the opposite direction (damage was superficial, requiring a $100 paint job). The car that invaded his lane ended crumpled up on a street post on its own as the driver was drunk.
My friend should have gotten a medal for avoiding what could have been a fatal multi-car collision. Instead he got a ticket for brushing the car on the opposite direction. The case went to court and the judge ruled against him.
Yes, Linux is 25 year old technology and yes, the IETF has lost its engineering drive. Those two statements are so true and obvious that the almost don't warrant discussion.
/.ers debating those basic truths.
They are on par with "Microsoft is a monopoly".
The only distinction among them is that the latter is an accepted truth while the former two go against the grain of what people would like to think. Hence we'll see a large number of really upset
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This is exactly why China isn't (yet) much of a long term economic threat to the US. So long as they keep these type outmoded policies and attitudes their economic growth will eventually run into them and bring the expansion to a halt.
It happened to Japan when a recession tested their political system and made it fail. The main party split into many factions and a long succession of lame duck Prime Ministers took over. Fifteen years later Japan is still nowhere to be found in the "economic threat" radar screen. (For those of you who are too young to remember this, rent and watch "Back to the Future III" to get an idea of the perspective on Japan at the time.)
Actually each position was in a different city. Here are some suggestions for people searching for jobs:
(a) Search across the country. Focus particularly for jobs in smaller cities that traditionally have a hard time attracting IT personnel.
(b) Search abroad. Canada, Ireland, UK, and, if you can handle the language, Germany, which are places often short on IT personnel.
(c) Focus our search on fields where you can leverage your expertise. If you spent the last four years doing say, scientific measurement equipment software, search for openings in other companies that are doing the same thing.
(d) Forget about the big names, go for the small companies. These ones have a hard time getting themselves noticed among thousands of ads.
(e) Search for software ads in the specialized magazines on the field of your previous experience, then visit the web sites and see if there are job openings. You won't find many openings that way, but when you do, you'll certainly be in the final top-three candidates list.
(f) If your skills have become somewhat outmoded use the downtime to learn new things such as PHP, Java, C#, UML, XML, OS X. Also focus particularly on those ones that appear often in job ads for which you are otherwise qualified.
(g) Network like hell. Call each and everyone of your former classmates. You did keep every business card that was handed to you in your previous job, didn't you? e-mail each one of them and let them know you are looking for a job.
(h) Attend the local hi-tech events from the chamber of commerce or similar such and network there too.
(i) Participate in an Open Source project on a hot app. Once you've made your mark on the OSS project call companies that are related to that. Hypothetical example: work on ggv for a while and once you've added some cool features apply for a job in Adobe.
Even pre-IPO they were offering over $200K to some not-so-well known academics. C'mon, part of being a good corporate citizen is paying people what they are worth.
I know money isn't everything. Still there is no reason why $80B market-cap Google could not match Pike's Bell labs salary, other than being cheap that is.
There is such an oversaturation of qualified people in the current tech job market, that unless you're sending a tailored resume AND cover letter, it's just going in the trash.
This is not what we see here. We advertise for a position and there is an oversaturation of two-year college html writers who think they are programmers because they can put together twenty lines of php.
In particular, for each of the last five positions we had open the most we got was three resumes that truly met the required qualifications.
The article has some interesting points, such as how Pike took a "huge pay cut" to go there just to work on cool things.
If this is true then he is a wuss. There is no reason why Google could not have matched his salary at Bell labs.
Did anyone notice the rough, draft-like rocket-fin drawings?
Anyone who knows anything about German craftsmanship knows that drawing is a fake.
This culture has been crushed into line-toeing, bootlicking mediocrity by Microsoft management. They're great for incremental updates in line with whatever upper-management mandate Bill has in mind this year and aping what smaller competitors are doing, but they suck at breaking new ground.
I tried to make this point to some higher ups at Microsoft last year. Somehow I don't think I managed to convince them of the need for a different culture @ MSN search.
In politics, like in Poker, you have to play the hand you are dealt, not the one you wanted to have.
The US is a 100 miles from Cuba and a superpower always willing to "flex it's muscles". None of that is a new development. Fidel Castro should have played his hand taking this into consideration (see realpolitik for an example of a politician taking geographic realities into account).