The reason that some people think like that (that any one group needs 'help' in getting the same opportunities) is because even people who are qualified are unfairly judged by their genetalia, skin color, nationality, sexual preference etc. Yes in the modern workplace. It's probably much worse in Pakistan than western nations.
You've just stated why it is NOT ready for the desktop while attempting to state it is ready. Its like saying an automobile engine is really a complete car and is ready for the road without the rest of the frame/tires/gas/seats etc etc
Why don't you get this? Everyone else does...
Sorry about not falling in step with your opinion. But I personally think that Linux itself is "ready". There are general-purpose and specialized apps (comes with more than Windows). Very stable. Where's the spyware? The system crashes?
What am I missing from the desktop? Games? Software that vendors won't port to Linux? Hardware whose vendors won't write drivers or open up their specs for Linux? I don't think those are problems of the Linux desktop. Those are problems with third party vendors. To use your metaphor it's like a car without after-market stereos, third-party alarm systems, window tinting and spinning hubcaps. I'm sorry but I have my frame, tires, gas tank and seats and frankly they kick ass.
What's not ready? Please don't use metaphors or generalities but give me some specifics. Specifics will help improve things. Anything else is just flamebait.
The reason is that compared with a commercial organisation, the Open Source community does not have the human resource focused on the Things That Matter when developing a feature-rich, stable, GUI.
Unlike.... Microsoft?
Seriously, I'm sick to death of "Linux isn't ready for the desktop". It IS ready, there just needs to be commercial software written for it and even more commercial driver support. It's not Linux, it's everyone else (in the commercial software/hardware world). Criticism is good as it leads to improvement. "Sucks" and "isn't ready" comments are completely useless.
I believe that Macromedia Shockwave, the predecessor to Flash, has been used to author DVD menus for awhile now. So the entire "annoying Flash intros" comment by timothy is just ignorance and flame-bait.
I'm not sure we should be letting them out of prison in the first place.
Yep, let's not hope they are rehabilitated and contribute to society. I, for one, would hope they continue to leech on the rest of us their entire lives!
I agree mostly - although saying it's liberal is going a little too far. Unless "liberal" means looking at everyone with the same level of criticism.
I do consider CSM to be accurate and fair in it's reporting. Years ago the "Christian Science" portion of the name did turn me off but I grew to rely on it as a credible source of information - and I'm a liberal athiest.
One word: extensions. Extensions allow you to change things that you may find annoying and customize the browser in ways that you never thought of. I essentially have a suite of extensions that are installed along with each of my Firefox installs.
Exactly. The sales guy should NOT have to worry about how to patch his OS, deal with virii, etc.
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1) A movie doesn't cost $50 to see. Even the DVD version will be not much more than the ticket price of two people, if that much. 2) If there is a technical problem with your movie, the theater owner will give you a refund or a gift certificate/card to see a free movie. 3) Even derivitive movie plots have more nuance than derivitive game plots. 4) Watching a movie usually isn't something that requires 'work'. A lot of modern games require repetitive behavior that some equate with work. I'm not talking about working your brain, either.
I know that wasn't perfect and looks bad, but is that really a deciding factor in using one browser versus another? I would think there are more important things to consider than a few extra entries in Add/Remove Programs.
Yup, look at how fast the pr0n sites are being shut down, the witches are being burned at the stake, and the heretics are being drawn-and-quartered. Those Christians are at it again!
Haha yeah good one. Pr0n sites are still up for now, because most of their customers are probably the morally righteous. Witches and heretics are allowed to live because it is currently illegal to do so and doing so would also hurt the 'pro-life' movement's arguments.
Net Applications reports that other browsers maintained their user base.
and also:
Firefox is currently the only browser that is increasing market share on a monthly basis, and it is growing at the direct expense of Microsoft's Internet Explorer
That means that the numbers for the other browsers did not go up or down by any significant amount.
So you believe that splitting up families, incarcerating parents for the [stupid] actions of their offspring and putting children into "the system" for the remainder of their pre-adult life - all on a mass scale (If this happens often enough) - it will benefit society?
Damn dude. I've been contemplating switching from Linux/PC to OSX/Mac and... wow. Somehow your rant made me realize I was being duped by some strange force willing me to blow money on something I essentially already have for free.
Let me educate you on the subject matter which you have taken it upon yourself to attack in (almost) complete ignorance.
Let me educate you on my ignorance: I spent a year in a "school" in preperation for ministry and/or seminary. I have preached, performed outreach in slums and gone door-to-door to spread the good word of the magical fairy king in the sky.
I have since grown up.
If you actually read the Bible, it's very hard to get the impression that God is on an ego trip, unless you want to get that impression. It's much more like God wanting to be man's friend, but man wanting to be God, and God being unwilling to forfeit His divine nature. He was, however, willing to forfeit His life. And for you who mock Him, nonetheless.
I have read it several times including direct translations from the original languages. Yes YHWH is on an ego trip. He wants to be man's friend, but if man doesn't reciprocate (using that Free Will thing God gave us) then he destroys man. Nice guy. Oh wait, he doesn't do that anymore because he sent his son/manifestation of himself/whatever to stand in for the usual slaughtering lamb to atone for all of our transgressions against Mr Friendly to spare us Mr Friendly's wrath. At least until the rapture when Yawheh The Friendly Ghost takes his chosen ones from the evil earth and let's the rest of us succumb to devestation and disease. Then after that he throws those who dared not be his friend into eternal punishment. Sounds like he has an attitude to me.
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The reason that some people think like that (that any one group needs 'help' in getting the same opportunities) is because even people who are qualified are unfairly judged by their genetalia, skin color, nationality, sexual preference etc. Yes in the modern workplace. It's probably much worse in Pakistan than western nations.
You've just stated why it is NOT ready for the desktop while attempting to state it is ready. Its like saying an automobile engine is really a complete car and is ready for the road without the rest of the frame/tires/gas/seats etc etc
Why don't you get this? Everyone else does...
Sorry about not falling in step with your opinion. But I personally think that Linux itself is "ready". There are general-purpose and specialized apps (comes with more than Windows). Very stable. Where's the spyware? The system crashes?
What am I missing from the desktop? Games? Software that vendors won't port to Linux? Hardware whose vendors won't write drivers or open up their specs for Linux? I don't think those are problems of the Linux desktop. Those are problems with third party vendors. To use your metaphor it's like a car without after-market stereos, third-party alarm systems, window tinting and spinning hubcaps. I'm sorry but I have my frame, tires, gas tank and seats and frankly they kick ass.
What's not ready? Please don't use metaphors or generalities but give me some specifics. Specifics will help improve things. Anything else is just flamebait.
The reason is that compared with a commercial organisation, the Open Source community does not have the human resource focused on the Things That Matter when developing a feature-rich, stable, GUI.
Unlike.... Microsoft?
Seriously, I'm sick to death of "Linux isn't ready for the desktop". It IS ready, there just needs to be commercial software written for it and even more commercial driver support. It's not Linux, it's everyone else (in the commercial software/hardware world). Criticism is good as it leads to improvement. "Sucks" and "isn't ready" comments are completely useless.
Too bad that it's raining in Austin right now. Doh!
Why should I pay taxes so some fat lazy slob to sit at home all day and jerk off to porn?
What!? Where did you put the camera in my room??
I believe that Macromedia Shockwave, the predecessor to Flash, has been used to author DVD menus for awhile now. So the entire "annoying Flash intros" comment by timothy is just ignorance and flame-bait.
Amazing what people listen to these days
I hate to break it to you but that song was released ten years ago. In the pop world that's an 'oldie' and not what people listen to today.
I'm not sure we should be letting them out of prison in the first place.
Yep, let's not hope they are rehabilitated and contribute to society. I, for one, would hope they continue to leech on the rest of us their entire lives!
Well at least being critical of the Bush administration is now "partisan ranting" as opposed to "unamerican" and "traitorous". We're making progress!!
I agree mostly - although saying it's liberal is going a little too far. Unless "liberal" means looking at everyone with the same level of criticism.
I do consider CSM to be accurate and fair in it's reporting. Years ago the "Christian Science" portion of the name did turn me off but I grew to rely on it as a credible source of information - and I'm a liberal athiest.
One word: extensions. Extensions allow you to change things that you may find annoying and customize the browser in ways that you never thought of. I essentially have a suite of extensions that are installed along with each of my Firefox installs.
Soy milk isn't "frou-frou". Some people actually use it as a replacement for cattle mucus.
Exactly. The sales guy should NOT have to worry about how to patch his OS, deal with virii, etc.
Put the users on a locked-down *nix machine with alternative browsers and (especially) email clients. Not the ultimate solution, perhaps, but it's got to be better than dealing with virus, trojan and spyware problems.
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Oh, so the whole coupla bucks per comic and subscription thing is a communist/socialist/anti-capitalist way of doing business? Sweet!
1. Take up communism/socialism/anti-capitalism
2. Publish Comics
3. ????
4. Profit!!
Or is it "In Soviet Russia, Communist/Socialist/Anti-Capitalist Profits You!" ?
1) A movie doesn't cost $50 to see. Even the DVD version will be not much more than the ticket price of two people, if that much.
2) If there is a technical problem with your movie, the theater owner will give you a refund or a gift certificate/card to see a free movie.
3) Even derivitive movie plots have more nuance than derivitive game plots.
4) Watching a movie usually isn't something that requires 'work'. A lot of modern games require repetitive behavior that some equate with work. I'm not talking about working your brain, either.
one of the characters, Inara, had a striking resemblence to my ex.girlfriend
Good one!
No, it also reminds me of... err nevermind, I maybe shouldn't say that out loud.
I know that wasn't perfect and looks bad, but is that really a deciding factor in using one browser versus another? I would think there are more important things to consider than a few extra entries in Add/Remove Programs.
FC3 worked fine for me with no issues on my Sager.
Yup, look at how fast the pr0n sites are being shut down, the witches are being burned at the stake, and the heretics are being drawn-and-quartered. Those Christians are at it again!
Haha yeah good one. Pr0n sites are still up for now, because most of their customers are probably the morally righteous. Witches and heretics are allowed to live because it is currently illegal to do so and doing so would also hurt the 'pro-life' movement's arguments.
If you had actually RTFA, you would have seen:
Net Applications reports that other browsers maintained their user base.
and also:
Firefox is currently the only browser that is increasing market share on a monthly basis, and it is growing at the direct expense of Microsoft's Internet Explorer
That means that the numbers for the other browsers did not go up or down by any significant amount.
So you believe that splitting up families, incarcerating parents for the [stupid] actions of their offspring and putting children into "the system" for the remainder of their pre-adult life - all on a mass scale (If this happens often enough) - it will benefit society?
Damn dude. I've been contemplating switching from Linux/PC to OSX/Mac and... wow. Somehow your rant made me realize I was being duped by some strange force willing me to blow money on something I essentially already have for free.
Let me educate you on the subject matter which you have taken it upon yourself to attack in (almost) complete ignorance.
Let me educate you on my ignorance: I spent a year in a "school" in preperation for ministry and/or seminary. I have preached, performed outreach in slums and gone door-to-door to spread the good word of the magical fairy king in the sky.
I have since grown up.
If you actually read the Bible, it's very hard to get the impression that God is on an ego trip, unless you want to get that impression. It's much more like God wanting to be man's friend, but man wanting to be God, and God being unwilling to forfeit His divine nature. He was, however, willing to forfeit His life. And for you who mock Him, nonetheless.
I have read it several times including direct translations from the original languages. Yes YHWH is on an ego trip. He wants to be man's friend, but if man doesn't reciprocate (using that Free Will thing God gave us) then he destroys man. Nice guy. Oh wait, he doesn't do that anymore because he sent his son/manifestation of himself/whatever to stand in for the usual slaughtering lamb to atone for all of our transgressions against Mr Friendly to spare us Mr Friendly's wrath. At least until the rapture when Yawheh The Friendly Ghost takes his chosen ones from the evil earth and let's the rest of us succumb to devestation and disease. Then after that he throws those who dared not be his friend into eternal punishment. Sounds like he has an attitude to me.
Ah, interesitng. What happens when you synch with LiveBookmarks?