To watch a "windows guru" use thier computer by clicking things like "OK" "Apply" over and over again just "to make sure", and the extra "clicking around" almost makes me dizzy.
I've seen that too. Confuses me when I watch it. I think it comes from the 'to fix a problem, uninstall and reinstall' method of 'correcting' a problem that most Windows folks get into. With *nix, it's not going to magically change from failing to working just by reinstalling it.
I *DO NOT* want a Windows replacement, I want something better.
Look at Gnome on a desktop like Ubuntu. It's not better in all respects yet, though it is often much better. The folks on the Gnome project are showing how to do a clean desktop with just what you need...where it makes sense and where it is consistant. A simple thing is that they put the desktop application menu on the top -- not on the bottom. For corporate use, it would be the one I'd like to support and not KDE.
For the record, while I use Evolution right now I'm using KDE and have for the last few years and enjoy it. It is entirely likely that I'll switch to Gnome in the next 6 months.
Re:While this is great for open source advocates..
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If i'm an average joe, my first question is 'why should i use open-source?" not where do i get it from?
Never try and talk anyone into anything. Instead, show them. Give them some software.
Once they convince themselves, mention that it is open source and that there's more where that came from. You will find that they begin to look for OSS instead of asking what it is...and they might even ask what makes something OSS vs. freeware or addware.
Or, is in the works now on Dave Slusher's Evil Genius Chronicles Podcast. [Podcasts = RSS subscrition feeds for time shifted radio blogging.]
The Podcasters need it too. I'm subscribed to a couple dozen feeds and have well over 4GB of files in my cache right now.
The biggest problem with Bittorrent and podcasts is that the RSS aggregators needs to be Bittorrent aware. Unfortunately, few are.
Re:Did they ever fix that bug....
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Just want to know how much longer until I can get a fully working win32 binary release so I can drop explorer.exe but keep my win32 apps (such as virtual dub).
I don't know what Windows has to do with KDE, though Virtual Dub works fine under Wine. Also, if you need.Net (CLR) support, the folks working on the Gnome project are integrating Mono.
OK, more specifically free software is neutral on how the software is used and who can use the software. Open source software tends to follow that as well.
This means that if a mailing list manager is created by an ardent advocate of choice...the mailing list licence does not have a clause that says 'can not be used by right to lifers'. Or bisa-versa. If it does, it's not OSS or free software.
Drug pushers, dictators, mass murders, bunny skinners, and traffic violators are treated the same as military or private users -- no matter what you think of any of these groups.
I haven't seen anyone doing this lately; at least, not outside of Open Sourced efforts. It seems like if you go the closed source, proprietary route these days, you'd better have a good deal of cash to fight the Patent Wars against the freeloading lawyers who come along.
While patents are abused, the issue isn't patents at all. Years ago, there were few building blocks to make software. Each part had to be put together from scratch. For example...
20 years ago, if someone came out with a debugger they could charge substantial amounts of money for it. Now, the debuggers are either free or part of much larger products.
Back then, Borland's Sidekick was popular with DOS users and a very common thing to find on many systems. There were even copy cat programs. Yet, the same functions and many more are available as minor hacks at the prompt or on the desktop and don't even merit disinterested boredom. Check Freshmeat.net if you want to see for yourself.
If you want to sell a modern Sidekick, you'll have to do something real special and you will probably find only a couple takers. Charge $100 for it? Not a chance.
People aren't buying those tools. They expect the tools to be available by default . They are interested in sophisticated software -- with fancy graphics, polish, and help built right in. The software has to have a very narrow focus. It has to be perfect for the task they are looking for. That goes for the developers as well as anyone else who uses a computer.
That said, the horrors of DOS have jaded people against command prompts. The Unix/Linux revival has changed that a bit, though I find that I use the shell for very specific tasks such as remote admining and very little else.
Love or lothe Red Hat -- either way -- go here watch this. Save it. Watch it again and again. Friggen brilliant.
Go watch it and if you're curious, read on. If not...that's good too as I'm only going to ramble a bit;
What I take from it is that the developer should reject the impulse to build everything from scratch and build just the core tool kit for others to use. After all, you can't know what other people are thinking or what they want...even if they tell you.
Along those lines, I look for projects like Plone that build on the work that preceeded it (Python to Zope to Plone) and make it easy to design extentions (Plone Products) that interoperate with the lower levels. I avoid monolythic projects that don't seem to be flexable enough to incorporate other toolkits. This is not pre-made integration, though. Quite the opposite.
Having the lower levels available and modifiable (Python source of Zope and Plone) means that you're not locked into one and only one way of doing things if you need to make changes. The vendor or core developer(s) don't dictate what you do or how you do it. Yet, along the chain each part works well with the levels above and below it.
Maybe not. That seems like a seasonal type job to me...
Do you think that someone will win 75x next year? Unlikely. Ken will have the gold badge of his accomplishment for many years to come. 74 wins + the suspiscion that he intentionally gave up the 75th win because -- who knows why -- is enough of a calling card. What he does with it is up to him.
People will always pay big bucks to 'learn the secrets' that usually aren't secrets.
Exactly. CD encyclopedias are as dead as the ones made from pulp.
Good for Ken, though. I expect that if he sharpens his public speaking he could hit that circuit and make an extra 5K per talk or more. Though, Ken probably already knows that.
How come when Microsoft tried to do this with passport everyone thought it was evil. But now, because it's not Microsoft, there will be a lot of people saying this is good. The reason why this stuff bothers me is because I don't want to trust anyone to control all my signing on to every site. Because no matter how secure it is, if someone breaks the security, they now have access to everything. At least I know now, that if someone breaks (guesses) one of my passwords, then they've only broken one of them, and not all of them.
The motivations for each group are entirely different. Go and listen to Owen Davis' speach here.
Now I see a release candidate. That's a good step, but why weren't there Windows builds earlier? I haven't seen any reasonable price-free spreadsheet for Windows - other than OpenOffice.org, which takes more time to download than I had available. I ended up trying some random Win3.1 freeware.
The Windows release candidate is 1.3.92 -- libraries included.
The version I can get right now under Fedora Core 2 is 1.2.8 unless I want to go through a long list of libraries to compile manually on top of the main application itself.
Sounds like the developers are working hard on the Windows port. You can lend them a hand if you want it any sooner, of course.
You asked why would God punish someone if he was ignorant of the fact that he was marrying another man's wife. That line of thinking suggests to me that you think there has to be intent in order for something to be wrong. I'm simply suggesting that something can be wrong regardless of intent. The rest of the post was sort of stream of consciousness stuff addressed at no one in particular.
If the admin doesn't know about Ghost or similar tools they have other more serious problems.
WOW! You ain't kidding...what ape cobbled that horrid mess together? BAH!
I've seen that too. Confuses me when I watch it. I think it comes from the 'to fix a problem, uninstall and reinstall' method of 'correcting' a problem that most Windows folks get into. With *nix, it's not going to magically change from failing to working just by reinstalling it.
With that,
Tux Racer - Pen Pen Tri-Icelon. Best as I can tell, Pen Pen preceeds TR by only 4 months. Are you sure that TR is a Pen Pen clone?
Look at Gnome on a desktop like Ubuntu. It's not better in all respects yet, though it is often much better. The folks on the Gnome project are showing how to do a clean desktop with just what you need...where it makes sense and where it is consistant. A simple thing is that they put the desktop application menu on the top -- not on the bottom. For corporate use, it would be the one I'd like to support and not KDE.
For the record, while I use Evolution right now I'm using KDE and have for the last few years and enjoy it. It is entirely likely that I'll switch to Gnome in the next 6 months.
Never try and talk anyone into anything. Instead, show them. Give them some software.
Once they convince themselves, mention that it is open source and that there's more where that came from. You will find that they begin to look for OSS instead of asking what it is...and they might even ask what makes something OSS vs. freeware or addware.
The Podcasters need it too. I'm subscribed to a couple dozen feeds and have well over 4GB of files in my cache right now.
The biggest problem with Bittorrent and podcasts is that the RSS aggregators needs to be Bittorrent aware. Unfortunately, few are.
I don't know what Windows has to do with KDE, though Virtual Dub works fine under Wine. Also, if you need .Net (CLR) support, the folks working on the Gnome project are integrating Mono.
At night, you will emit a pleasing glow!
This means that if a mailing list manager is created by an ardent advocate of choice...the mailing list licence does not have a clause that says 'can not be used by right to lifers'. Or bisa-versa. If it does, it's not OSS or free software.
Drug pushers, dictators, mass murders, bunny skinners, and traffic violators are treated the same as military or private users -- no matter what you think of any of these groups.
While patents are abused, the issue isn't patents at all. Years ago, there were few building blocks to make software. Each part had to be put together from scratch. For example...
20 years ago, if someone came out with a debugger they could charge substantial amounts of money for it. Now, the debuggers are either free or part of much larger products.
Back then, Borland's Sidekick was popular with DOS users and a very common thing to find on many systems. There were even copy cat programs. Yet, the same functions and many more are available as minor hacks at the prompt or on the desktop and don't even merit disinterested boredom. Check Freshmeat.net if you want to see for yourself.
If you want to sell a modern Sidekick, you'll have to do something real special and you will probably find only a couple takers. Charge $100 for it? Not a chance.
People aren't buying those tools. They expect the tools to be available by default . They are interested in sophisticated software -- with fancy graphics, polish, and help built right in. The software has to have a very narrow focus. It has to be perfect for the task they are looking for. That goes for the developers as well as anyone else who uses a computer.
That said, the horrors of DOS have jaded people against command prompts. The Unix/Linux revival has changed that a bit, though I find that I use the shell for very specific tasks such as remote admining and very little else.
Go watch it and if you're curious, read on. If not...that's good too as I'm only going to ramble a bit;
What I take from it is that the developer should reject the impulse to build everything from scratch and build just the core tool kit for others to use. After all, you can't know what other people are thinking or what they want...even if they tell you.
Along those lines, I look for projects like Plone that build on the work that preceeded it (Python to Zope to Plone) and make it easy to design extentions (Plone Products) that interoperate with the lower levels. I avoid monolythic projects that don't seem to be flexable enough to incorporate other toolkits. This is not pre-made integration, though. Quite the opposite.
Having the lower levels available and modifiable (Python source of Zope and Plone) means that you're not locked into one and only one way of doing things if you need to make changes. The vendor or core developer(s) don't dictate what you do or how you do it. Yet, along the chain each part works well with the levels above and below it.
Additional link; Erik Von Hippel.
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Begining IE: Ooooo! A button! Why yes, my computer does run slowly!
During IE: Grr...you wouln't lie to me again, would you? *click!*
Experienced with IE: Liars! Every last one of you!
Begining Firefox: I can block those liars? Wo-ho!
(Yep, I know that you can block adds in IE...it's just not integrated or as well done.)
Encyclopedias? I doubt even libraries are keeping them around these days!
Do you think that someone will win 75x next year? Unlikely. Ken will have the gold badge of his accomplishment for many years to come. 74 wins + the suspiscion that he intentionally gave up the 75th win because -- who knows why -- is enough of a calling card. What he does with it is up to him.
People will always pay big bucks to 'learn the secrets' that usually aren't secrets.
Good for Ken, though. I expect that if he sharpens his public speaking he could hit that circuit and make an extra 5K per talk or more. Though, Ken probably already knows that.
No, it's not.
The motivations for each group are entirely different. Go and listen to Owen Davis' speach here.
Works fine for me (Firefox 1.0, Fedora Core 2).
Not familiar with that build.
The Windows release candidate is 1.3.92 -- libraries included.
The version I can get right now under Fedora Core 2 is 1.2.8 unless I want to go through a long list of libraries to compile manually on top of the main application itself.
Sounds like the developers are working hard on the Windows port. You can lend them a hand if you want it any sooner, of course.
I'm handing out USB flash drives this season with software pre-installed on them. Portable Firefox will be the prime app on the drive.
Links weren't broken. The .org one redirects to a link farm.
Fair enough.