Now, while Finland has quite reasonable limitations for compensation (compared to the US), some of the cases have really had really unreasonable damages because the copyright holders demonstrated "how much revenue they have lost".
Piratebay should sue for lost income too, 5 million people, each could visit the site twice a day, and click on all banners. Then multiply that by days the site has been up, and that's a lot of ad revenue they have to pay back.
WHat do they want to prove? That copying copyrighted material is illegal? Do they really want to go there?
I don't thing that's even a question? Isn't intellectual property infriction pretty conclusively illegal without having to prove it
Very silly idea, and not at all thought through. Unless they did think it through and still determine that this was something worth pretending to pursue.
I disagee. They are calling out the hypocricy of the copyright group when they do the one thing they are agaist. It's like PETA having an annual moose hunt. In addition I think this calls into attention the state of currect copyright law. If the group claims it was a mistake, it clearly shows that even the "experts" have no clue how to stay withing the law.
While the parent comment is mostly true, it is very much cherry picking the most positive facts about the copyright issues. It also unnecessarily condecending towards "normal people" who don't understand why things cost and what property is. More than that, the parent post is widely irrelevant to the whole copyright reform, almost offtopic. Those were not the issues being modified (except Lex Karpela).
The points addressed in the proposal were completely different, one of the points in the proposal was even that the "media tax" might have to increase when new methods and practices of sharing media become the norm.
While I am in favor of a larger copyright reform, we probably can't do that alone in Finland. However, this seems to introduce small, but very relevant steps to at least make the current situation more sane.
My thought was mainly that there's no point in starting a witch hunt, just because the company is in the media business. I'm sure there are actually good companies in that business, and hating them all, just for the sake of hating them won't improve the situation. Having a few agreeable companies that the geeky public would like, would probably be to everybodys benefit.
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, since mistakes can happen. But this is a big fuckup, and as seen, it aggravates the already hostile feelings toward the media industry. So they need to come up with a really good reason why this happened, and something more than words to make sure it doesn't happen again, before they have my sympathies.
I'm sure this in not the only video with wrong automatic tagging. So they could e.g. go through all videos which are tagged with having their music. I don't care if it's 1k, 10k or 100k. If the music was actually not theirs, they will contact the owner of the video, and give them any ad revenue they have gotten for that video, and release all claims to the video. That would go a long way to convince me that they did not act maliciously, that it was a honest mistake.
And yes, I do agree that there should be big fines for wrongly claiming that the video contains your copyrighted material. Hell, I'd even make that a some % of the revenue of the company.
I think it's good and interesting that you actually follow the discussion about your company on social media. This gives you a chance of setting right some misconceptions, but it would help a lot if you would actually give enough information to do so.
For example, in the article it is mentioned, that even after a review this had been flagged as your material. Could you explain this? Should this not involve a manual step of actually looking through the video in question? I'm pretty sure if that if this was done manually, this situation would never have come up.
I think that's needlessly critical. Of course there are great human disasters which don't fall under the umbrella of/. Just because this happened to be one which also has a major affect on the tech industry, doesn't mean the humane part of this is any less tragic. Still, people come to/. for tech news, and this is an interesting analysis on how the price of the drives have been affected, and that is what/. should report.
Lumping everybody together as basement-dwelling cold-hearted bastards who only care about cheap hardware is just as narrow-minded as you claim people reporting/reading this are. In fact, from my experience it seems that people reading/. are often more aware of international social issues than average.
I came hee to post a link to RIAA Radar, but domain is not active. I hope it's just a problem with forgetting to renew the site. With all the labels the big labels own, it's hard to know if the album you're buying is actually from a small label. RIAA Radar is (was) a great way to check that out.
Now it turns out that insects, and evolution, are smarter than we thought
Did they really just write that, really?. While we're at our peak of evolutionary misconceptions, why not sign it all away to Intelligent Design and say god wanted a better insect because it was christmas and Jebus didn't have any friends to play with.
1) You centralize your rectification. Instead of having hundreds of power supplies running at 80% efficiency, you can have a large rectifier system running at up to 96%.
We actually just got new server hardware. The power supplies are rated for 92%+ and in practice, we measured the efficiency to be almost 95%. So while our other points are valid, I think the losses from power supplies have gone down a lot.
...well, mankind has shown extraordinary talent for selfishness and greed and wanton destruction of even our own planet just to please our short-term interests.
We're talking about possible encounters with alien races. How could we have a slightest clue if humans are selfish or not? Compared to what? We might be the most benevolent thing seen in the entire universe, or we might something completely different.
I'm sorry, 1-3 year old servers without disks? While I agree that they most likely can be used, their value is fractions of their price as new. So unless you manage to sell the whole lot at one go to somebody, it's probably cheaper to sell them as scrap.
This is of course wasteful, if you consider that the servers have lifetime left. But it might be the cheapest/most profitable option overall.
When the industry starts giving people what they want - DRM-free stuff they can 'own' and use whichever way they like, at a reasonable price - then piracy will go down.
I'm not saying that the music industry is right in this matter, but to be fair, there are several online stores that sell DRM free mp3s, have a good selection of music, and have reasonable prices. For example Equaldreams, Meteli.net and Radio Rock store. These have pretty much killed all my music pirating. Sadly we don't have access to the Amazon mp3 store, which I loved, but these are okish.
The bigger problem is that you really can't get tv series/movies in a similar way.
Actually, if you paid enough for HIB 2 you got HIB 1 for free on top of that. I had bought both, so it didn't matter much, but sill, a nice gesture. I don't know if they'll be offering something similar here.
If you actually read the posts on the YRO articles, without grouping them all together as copyright bashing pirates, only wanting to get their movies, games and porn for free, you might have a slightly different view on the slashdotters.
And even when I use the term "slashdotters", I know there's a huge spread of people with different ideas. However, I think that in general, the people on slashdot are more aware of piracy, and probably buy more content than the average person.
Almost all posts (including mine), have stated that they will gladly pay for content, as long as they are not faced with draconian limits. For music I think we are in pretty good shape. Services like Amazon mp3s give great value for money without restrictions. I myself spend aroun 50€ / month there. With games it's really varied and movies and tv series are in pretty bad shape in Europe, It's almost a choise of getting the DVD or pirating it (with some exceptions)
The fact that people on/. are annoyed at content publishers for placing horrible restictions on their products is not a cry for more piracy. People here are usually more tech savvy, and would like to use their products in more ways than a "normal" person, but many times that is not possible. And then when the content producers lobby legal systems and sue people for completely unreasonable amounts, no wonder people here are pissed off.
You are painting things just as black and white as MAFIAA, and you're modded insightful? You think people don't want to support artist, developers and creators!? No wonder you post as AC, if this was modded "-1 Troll" as it should be, I wouldn't even reply to something this idiotic.
Hmm, you're right that 2000 is probably too early, but 2007 is way too late. The research was done by a research group that published the results, and if I'm not completely wrong they came up with a false negative rate of 85-90%.
I don't quite remember when the first accelerometer phones were out, but I think this was done with either one of the first ones with it, or a prototype phone. I only remember this because I was interested in this technology, but didn't expect to get one for a long time.
But on the other hand for example circumventing CD or DVD copy protection is perfectly fine if you have legally bought the disc due to fair use rights. I'd argue that on the same grounds I'd just be exercising my fair use rights by doing whatever I wish with my hardware.
Besides, it doesn't even require any kind of modification of the system or its software at all. You're just triggering functionality on that is already present in the system.
I think there was a court decision that at least CSS encryption was not considered strong. and according to wikipedia the law is not clear on when it is ok to break strong encryption.
I do agree with you that it's idiotic to ban things like this, but since the law isn't clear enough, I wouldn't wonder if Sony would slap an "infringer" with a lawsuit just in case.
I am actually rather tempted to buy a PS3 now and one of these dongles, and then take several pictures of me using the said dongle and send those over to Sony. Oh, and advertise the pics and the dongle on my website, too. Sony wouldn't have any legal leg to stand on if they tried to sue so I'd just get to laugh and annoy the hell out of them:]
Oh, sometimes I'm just so glad to live in Finland:]
Actually, according to the article, the letters were sent because the dongles are devices to circumvent copy protection. And with our abomination of a law, Lex Karpela, devices to circumvent strong copy protection are also banned in Finland. So they might be able to go after you on the same grounds.
That said, I think I'm done with Sony for good. It's almost a shame that I already have a PS3.
According to the article, it costs $8000, which is a lot for some things but probably accessible for others. Let's just say it's not going to solve the world's water problem overnight, but it might be handy for relief efforts.
Actually, the 8000$ was the expected cost of a larger 1000 gallon version.
A larger version is also being designed, which will cost $8,000 and will be able to provide 1,000 gallons of water daily.
1000 gallons a day is already a pretty nice amount, but as you said, the maintenance work and costs are unknown.
Wow, I remember reading about this a long long time ago. There's a reference to an article of 2007 in there, but this must have been around 2000. Sadly I can't seem to find the link to that article (oh, surprise), Well, I guess most things are bound to be invented at least twice with the amout of people with grants out there...
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Now, while Finland has quite reasonable limitations for compensation (compared to the US), some of the cases have really had really unreasonable damages because the copyright holders demonstrated "how much revenue they have lost".
Piratebay should sue for lost income too, 5 million people, each could visit the site twice a day, and click on all banners. Then multiply that by days the site has been up, and that's a lot of ad revenue they have to pay back.
WHat do they want to prove? That copying copyrighted material is illegal? Do they really want to go there?
I don't thing that's even a question? Isn't intellectual property infriction pretty conclusively illegal without having to prove it
Very silly idea, and not at all thought through. Unless they did think it through and still determine that this was something worth pretending to pursue.
I disagee. They are calling out the hypocricy of the copyright group when they do the one thing they are agaist. It's like PETA having an annual moose hunt. In addition I think this calls into attention the state of currect copyright law. If the group claims it was a mistake, it clearly shows that even the "experts" have no clue how to stay withing the law.
Well, I don't know about that. It depends on the target market. If it's a consumer phone, who cares about exchange?
While the parent comment is mostly true, it is very much cherry picking the most positive facts about the copyright issues. It also unnecessarily condecending towards "normal people" who don't understand why things cost and what property is. More than that, the parent post is widely irrelevant to the whole copyright reform, almost offtopic. Those were not the issues being modified (except Lex Karpela).
The points addressed in the proposal were completely different, one of the points in the proposal was even that the "media tax" might have to increase when new methods and practices of sharing media become the norm.
While I am in favor of a larger copyright reform, we probably can't do that alone in Finland. However, this seems to introduce small, but very relevant steps to at least make the current situation more sane.
And the US Trade Representative would likely put the EU countries on the watchlist of states that need to improve IP legislation...
That would not necessarily be a bad thing. When almost all countries of the world are on the list, the list loses its meaning.
My thought was mainly that there's no point in starting a witch hunt, just because the company is in the media business. I'm sure there are actually good companies in that business, and hating them all, just for the sake of hating them won't improve the situation. Having a few agreeable companies that the geeky public would like, would probably be to everybodys benefit.
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, since mistakes can happen. But this is a big fuckup, and as seen, it aggravates the already hostile feelings toward the media industry. So they need to come up with a really good reason why this happened, and something more than words to make sure it doesn't happen again, before they have my sympathies.
I'm sure this in not the only video with wrong automatic tagging. So they could e.g. go through all videos which are tagged with having their music. I don't care if it's 1k, 10k or 100k. If the music was actually not theirs, they will contact the owner of the video, and give them any ad revenue they have gotten for that video, and release all claims to the video. That would go a long way to convince me that they did not act maliciously, that it was a honest mistake.
And yes, I do agree that there should be big fines for wrongly claiming that the video contains your copyrighted material. Hell, I'd even make that a some % of the revenue of the company.
I think it's good and interesting that you actually follow the discussion about your company on social media. This gives you a chance of setting right some misconceptions, but it would help a lot if you would actually give enough information to do so.
For example, in the article it is mentioned, that even after a review this had been flagged as your material. Could you explain this? Should this not involve a manual step of actually looking through the video in question? I'm pretty sure if that if this was done manually, this situation would never have come up.
I think that's needlessly critical. Of course there are great human disasters which don't fall under the umbrella of /. Just because this happened to be one which also has a major affect on the tech industry, doesn't mean the humane part of this is any less tragic. Still, people come to /. for tech news, and this is an interesting analysis on how the price of the drives have been affected, and that is what /. should report.
Lumping everybody together as basement-dwelling cold-hearted bastards who only care about cheap hardware is just as narrow-minded as you claim people reporting/reading this are. In fact, from my experience it seems that people reading /. are often more aware of international social issues than average.
I came hee to post a link to RIAA Radar, but domain is not active. I hope it's just a problem with forgetting to renew the site. With all the labels the big labels own, it's hard to know if the album you're buying is actually from a small label. RIAA Radar is (was) a great way to check that out.
Now it turns out that insects, and evolution, are smarter than we thought
Did they really just write that, really?. While we're at our peak of evolutionary misconceptions, why not sign it all away to Intelligent Design and say god wanted a better insect because it was christmas and Jebus didn't have any friends to play with.
1) You centralize your rectification. Instead of having hundreds of power supplies running at 80% efficiency, you can have a large rectifier system running at up to 96%.
We actually just got new server hardware. The power supplies are rated for 92%+ and in practice, we measured the efficiency to be almost 95%. So while our other points are valid, I think the losses from power supplies have gone down a lot.
...well, mankind has shown extraordinary talent for selfishness and greed and wanton destruction of even our own planet just to please our short-term interests.
We're talking about possible encounters with alien races. How could we have a slightest clue if humans are selfish or not? Compared to what? We might be the most benevolent thing seen in the entire universe, or we might something completely different.
I'm sorry, 1-3 year old servers without disks? While I agree that they most likely can be used, their value is fractions of their price as new. So unless you manage to sell the whole lot at one go to somebody, it's probably cheaper to sell them as scrap.
This is of course wasteful, if you consider that the servers have lifetime left. But it might be the cheapest/most profitable option overall.
When the industry starts giving people what they want - DRM-free stuff they can 'own' and use whichever way they like, at a reasonable price - then piracy will go down.
I'm not saying that the music industry is right in this matter, but to be fair, there are several online stores that sell DRM free mp3s, have a good selection of music, and have reasonable prices. For example Equaldreams, Meteli.net and Radio Rock store. These have pretty much killed all my music pirating. Sadly we don't have access to the Amazon mp3 store, which I loved, but these are okish.
The bigger problem is that you really can't get tv series/movies in a similar way.
Actually, if you paid enough for HIB 2 you got HIB 1 for free on top of that. I had bought both, so it didn't matter much, but sill, a nice gesture. I don't know if they'll be offering something similar here.
If you actually read the posts on the YRO articles, without grouping them all together as copyright bashing pirates, only wanting to get their movies, games and porn for free, you might have a slightly different view on the slashdotters.
And even when I use the term "slashdotters", I know there's a huge spread of people with different ideas. However, I think that in general, the people on slashdot are more aware of piracy, and probably buy more content than the average person.
Almost all posts (including mine), have stated that they will gladly pay for content, as long as they are not faced with draconian limits. For music I think we are in pretty good shape. Services like Amazon mp3s give great value for money without restrictions. I myself spend aroun 50€ / month there. With games it's really varied and movies and tv series are in pretty bad shape in Europe, It's almost a choise of getting the DVD or pirating it (with some exceptions)
The fact that people on /. are annoyed at content publishers for placing horrible restictions on their products is not a cry for more piracy. People here are usually more tech savvy, and would like to use their products in more ways than a "normal" person, but many times that is not possible. And then when the content producers lobby legal systems and sue people for completely unreasonable amounts, no wonder people here are pissed off.
You are painting things just as black and white as MAFIAA, and you're modded insightful? You think people don't want to support artist, developers and creators!? No wonder you post as AC, if this was modded "-1 Troll" as it should be, I wouldn't even reply to something this idiotic.
Maybe it's because threatening to take down a plane heading to a third world country isn't a very significant threat in the eyes of the TSA
If it flies there, it'll fly back too. And if this takes hours and hours, you can just as well screw up the return flight.
Seriously, who the hell actually knows that mercury even does that?
If mercury does that to planes, then anyone who comes up with methods of attacking planes should. Which means the TSA airport crew should know.
Hmm, you're right that 2000 is probably too early, but 2007 is way too late. The research was done by a research group that published the results, and if I'm not completely wrong they came up with a false negative rate of 85-90%.
I don't quite remember when the first accelerometer phones were out, but I think this was done with either one of the first ones with it, or a prototype phone. I only remember this because I was interested in this technology, but didn't expect to get one for a long time.
But on the other hand for example circumventing CD or DVD copy protection is perfectly fine if you have legally bought the disc due to fair use rights. I'd argue that on the same grounds I'd just be exercising my fair use rights by doing whatever I wish with my hardware.
Besides, it doesn't even require any kind of modification of the system or its software at all. You're just triggering functionality on that is already present in the system.
I think there was a court decision that at least CSS encryption was not considered strong. and according to wikipedia the law is not clear on when it is ok to break strong encryption.
I do agree with you that it's idiotic to ban things like this, but since the law isn't clear enough, I wouldn't wonder if Sony would slap an "infringer" with a lawsuit just in case.
I am actually rather tempted to buy a PS3 now and one of these dongles, and then take several pictures of me using the said dongle and send those over to Sony. Oh, and advertise the pics and the dongle on my website, too. Sony wouldn't have any legal leg to stand on if they tried to sue so I'd just get to laugh and annoy the hell out of them :]
Oh, sometimes I'm just so glad to live in Finland :]
Actually, according to the article, the letters were sent because the dongles are devices to circumvent copy protection. And with our abomination of a law, Lex Karpela, devices to circumvent strong copy protection are also banned in Finland. So they might be able to go after you on the same grounds.
That said, I think I'm done with Sony for good. It's almost a shame that I already have a PS3.
According to the article, it costs $8000, which is a lot for some things but probably accessible for others. Let's just say it's not going to solve the world's water problem overnight, but it might be handy for relief efforts.
Actually, the 8000$ was the expected cost of a larger 1000 gallon version.
A larger version is also being designed, which will cost $8,000 and will be able to provide 1,000 gallons of water daily.
1000 gallons a day is already a pretty nice amount, but as you said, the maintenance work and costs are unknown.
Wow, I remember reading about this a long long time ago. There's a reference to an article of 2007 in there, but this must have been around 2000. Sadly I can't seem to find the link to that article (oh, surprise), Well, I guess most things are bound to be invented at least twice with the amout of people with grants out there...
The LHC is pretty cool,
Pretty cool? The magnets are at friggin 1.9K! That's freezing!
I don't really get what the advantage of this new SCiB thing is, except that it is NOT Li-Ion.
Actually, unless the aricle is completely wrong...
The SCiB – or Super Charge ion Battery – is a rechargeable lithium-ion battery ...
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