I'm really tired of that line, "Doesn't mean she deserves harassment"
I've been in GamerGate now for almost six months. What I've seen is people like Zoe Quinn, Brianna Wu, Anita Sarkeesian and Randi Harper harassing people then claiming they're the ones being harassed. Other than Anita Sarkeesian, I'd never heard of any of these other people before GamerGate.
Wu for example, created a twitter account BROLOLZ and used it to mock and harass GamerGate back in the beginning. When no one responded she created the "Oppressed Gamer" meme. Someone took that meme and ran with it, then she claimed people using her meme was harassment. Then she got threats from a zero day twitter account called "DeathToBrianna", there was no mention of GamerGate, but she screen capped it and sent it flying around twitter as evidence GamerGate had a hate on for her, that's what got her on a media tour.
I don't believe anyone deserves harassment, but what I'm seeing is people purposely going in and kicking bee hives, then calling for the extermination of bees when they get stung by a wasp. It's ridiculous, the media is eating it up and plastering it all over as, "these poor, poor innocent souls."
So yeah, I'm about to victim blame. If you poke a bear, it's your fault if you get bitten. I've lost all sympathy for people living under the double standard that it's ok for them to lie, cheat, steal, defame, dox, harass and threaten people, but then turn around and play the victim and advertise their patreons. Check the patreon accounts for anyone of the three I named above:
Randi Harper (antagonist, creator of the GGAutoblocker blocks GamerGate, which is fine. Continues to tweet at GamerGate and bullied an anti-GamerGate person off twitter for not being anti enough):
$2,422.86 a MONTHhttps://www.patreon.com/freebs...
Zoe Quinn (abuser, antagonist, liar, trust fund baby. Frankly we'd all be happier NOT talking about her because she's not relevant beyond the people that were involved around her [journalist, indi devs, indi judges], but every time she's forgotten she pulls some crap like this article to reinsert herself. She got in a twitter slap fight with Brianna Wu over who was the most harassed):
$4,000 a MONTHhttps://www.patreon.com/zoe
Brianna Wu (antagonist, liar, trust fund baby. She answered someone questioning her saying GamerGate was only 350 people with, "Thanks for the sexists remark" and accused David Pakman of running a hit piece on her for asking her how she knew it was GamerGate harassing her:
$13,000 a MONTHhttps://www.patreon.com/user?u...
^ this ^ is what a professional victim looks like.
I got into GamerGate because I was tired of the media BS about gamers being cis-white-male shitlord misogynerds. I won't lie, in the beginning, I didn't think GamerGate was important, it's about frigg'n video games. I thought it'd be like a week long thing, we'd write some letters to advertisers and the journalist involved would just apologize for being idiots, but it's just been one thing after another after another. The opposition to GamerGate is full of ex-neo-naizs (Ian Miles Cheong), pedophiles (Shara Butts), animal abuses (Randi Harper, Shara Butts), rape apologists (Author Chu) and professional victims (Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, Zoe Quinn, Randi Harper, Grace Lynn) all sexists, racist, homophobic, hateful people who pretend to have the high moral ground because they alone are allowed to speak for women and minorities (Look up #NotYourShiled). All pointing fingers at a largely harmless group of people that are just tired of being demonized for a hobby that doesn't hurt anyone, and the media eats it up. You can look into the background of just about any of the major GamerGate "targets" and se
it doesn't mean that Wayland isn't going to be a kludgy mess in five years.
After much discussion and watching many talks I'm under the impression that X11 is a kludgy mess *now*. The developers working on Wayland where the same developers who worked on X and they're the ones making the claim X is too much of a monster to clean up. My personal opinion is it doesn't matter what Wayland looks like in five years, the fact is X is unmanageable now. Developers are fixing bugs in X that are older than they are, that to me says it's time to take some lessons learned from the failures of X and start over to get a cleaner more maintainable solution.
And FWIW, that doesn't mean that Wayland is discarding useless features. It means those features will be grafted on later, one way or another. And when they are, they'll contribute to the kludge ridden crapfest that Wayland will inevitably become, not somehow cause it to be cleaner.
Can I borrow your crystal ball sometime? I'd like to see who's going to win the next world series. You can't possible know this is what is going to happen so you're arguing against trying to do the right thing because there's a possibility that it won't be any different then the current situation, which is a very nonsensical thing to argue. If Wayland ends up in the same situation in ten to fifteen years you can hold your head high and say I told you so, but at the moment based on every developer who's worked on X I've listened to Wayland can't possibly be any worse than X. When people make that claim, it means there's nothing to lose by trying.
Note that the concept of "client" and "server" are somewhat reversed from the normal meaning - the X "server" runs on your desktop, the client can run somewhere in a datacenter. Think about apps processing major datasets and then generating some output...makes sense then for the "client" to be on the larger computer.
Is how the developer in the linked youtube video above pretty much says it works.
don't forget it's also a print server, and a binary interpreter too
I can't forget that because I didn't know it in the first place.
Thanks, I'm not feeling so dumb anymore as many people here have pointed out the confusion is that the developers don't know what X is or what to do with it and Wayland is only intended to replace a small part of what X does. My feelings are although it's always sad to see a tried and true method that just works, or people have learned to work around, thrown away, it just makes sense to start over with a fresh perspective and lessons learned, especially when there's just so much bloat the code base becomes unmanageable. Maybe in five to ten years Wayland *will* be just as bad as X is now, but honestly if X is bad now, after 30 years, just think of how horrible it'll be in another ten. So it's still better to start fresh and get another 30 years out of Wayland at which point it could be redone again for whatever new hardware exists.
I noticed the AC comment was modded as overrated, but the post seems to provide lots of back story and reasoning for why some people are working toward Wayland adoption as well as some draw backs of Wayland.
It didn't seem to contain any flamebait or troll comments so is the post untrue or does it contain untrue statements? or is this just a case of a bad moderation?
I was just about to say that. I'm watching the video linked above and the developer, who worked on X, stated he had to fix bugs in X that were older than him.
Having to maintain someone else's monster can hardly be used to say another person a bad developer. I maintain at least three projects that were created before I started working at my current company and I'm glad no one judges my ability to write code based on code some no formal education self taught C guru programmer hacked together twenty years ago. They did a good job for what they had to work with at the time, knowledge and resources, but I've replaced entire libraries of poorly commented buggy code. Concepts were good, implementation wasn't.
I'm about 18 minutes in and they're starting to make sense now. The first ten minutes is really just a lot of back story on the speaker. Somewhere between ten and 18 minutes he starts getting into the issues with X.
Ok, now things make a lot more sense. It's amazing how one piece of the puzzle really brings out the picture. So essentially X was designed to do more than just display, which is why I've always been confused about what X actually did. Sometimes I thought it was a graphics driver, sometimes I thought it was a network protocol, but it's basically both.
I've read through the Wayland site and another half dozen pages that are obviously over my head and I just don't understand what Wayland is or what it's advantages are. I think it's suppose to be replacing X11, but I don't really understand X11 either, other than it's a method of getting things onto the screen. So I'm throwing my ignorance out there hoping I won't be flamed out of existence and someone can explain or point me to a laymen description of Wayland, and/or X11 and how one is better than the other. It seems like it should be a big deal since I've read there's been a lot of dissatisfaction with X11 for quite sometime and yet no one's ever done anything about it. That is until now, if Wayland is in fact a replacement
I'm sorry I realize this has been discussed several times and I'm sorry I'm just not getting it.
I don't think it was as big a deal five years ago. I certainly would have given them props for being so forward thinking in bringing up what was a non-issue at the time, but I imagine it would have been spun as they're wasting time on something no one cared about, so it's really lose-lose for them isn't it?
You know you're a Star Wars geek when you go to the Wookies building the Death Star before remembering that Chewbacca was the primary mechanic on the Falcon. You my friend diverse a second geek card.
I apologize that this sounds like a sexist rant, but it is my personal experience and opinion. I'm sorry if it's offensive.
Have to agree here, by all my accounts girls receive the privilege in high school more than guys do. I've seen it time and time again where a boy asked for help and was told to do the homework and a girl asked for help and was given the answers. Whether they want to acknowledge that or not.
When I was in Chem 11 I had my older sister as my lab partner. We did the same work, but she received better grades on labs. Apparently nice handwriting with hearts over your 'i's makes you smarter, and no I didn't have messy hand writing. I still ended up with a higher grade because when she wasn't copying my work on test our strengths and weaknesses were much more apparent.
I also remember in one particular English class having a hard time with lexical categories. The internet was in it's infancy and all I had at home was an Atari 130XE, otherwise I would have just looked it up myself when the provided material was proven inadequate. I almost failed that class in grade nine despite asking for help on multiple occasions. My sister on the other hand received extra after class tutoring as part of a special group from the teacher who turned me down. I wasn't allowed to join the group because it was a female only study group and there was no male equivalent because it was discriminatory for boys to have their own exclusive study group, which also included a teacher as an aid. I did get together with a couple of other guys that were having trouble, but weren't allowed to join the group and we fumbled our way through it together, but it would have been a lot easier if we had the additional help of someone who actually knew what they were doing.
There are many occasions growing up that boys are told they're on their own and are excluded from certain activities or out right ban from forming male only groups, where as it's perfectly acceptable for girls to form exclusive female only groups that receive special treatments. Maybe this is why there are more male "nerds". We were always outcast, something that seems to be much more rare for girls.
we'll two bee fare i was written on my sell Phone. Surry i rattled you're kage.
I don't disagree with you tough. It was a ferocious statement of agreement, there really was no content to the comment. It really didn't deserve to be modded up. Maybe modded as Funny, if anything, but not as insightful.
I can't remember where I saw the comic, but it was -10 C Fall vs. Spring. I found a similar one for farenheit, but it's not the one I was thinking of. http://i.imgur.com/qzIm7y1.png
All we need is develop a car that runs on fat cells and we can use the liposuction from North Americans (Canadians included) to run the worlds transportation system indefinitely.
0 deg C is the freezing point. Well below is at least -20 deg C to most people in Canada. Heck in the spring when the temperature gets up to -10 deg C people pull out their shorts and t-shirts. It'd be nice if they were just a bit more specific.
Problem being "off site backups" are not the same as "cloud storage". My company has "off site backups" of our servers, both the server and off-site server are ours and under our control. Cloud storage is putting someone else in charge of your data. So yeah, you'll save money by outsourcing your IT staff and infrastructure to a cloud storage company, but when shit hits the fan you have no control over the servers you don't own. If cloud storage company X decides they need a higher payment to maintain your data, well you're kind of locked in and have to pay whatever they tell you too.
<tinfoilHat> Not to mention industrial espionage becomes much easier when cloud storage company X decides to double dip by selling your data to your competitors while "keeping it safe" for you.</tinfoilHat>
I actually think they're cooking the books. I'm sure they're just moving numbers around to make their revenue stream seem larger after having a disastrous year and are hoping to make up for it next year. Big companies do it all the time. Besides revenue is a poor way to gage a company, they could have 24 billion in revenue and 50 billion in liabilities, or they might have to write off a few billion in "estimated revenues" later, like they did with the original surface.
Of the hundres of people I know, very few profess to buying a surface (pro or RT). My older sister received an RT as a gift and returned it because it was crap. I actually told her she had an RT and she might want to try out the surface pro, but she ended up with a Galaxy Tab. I've asked over a dozen of my gamer friends and only one bought an XBOne. No one wanted one sitting in their living room staring at them all the time. Some went with the PS4 most decided to skip this gen. So I find it very hard to believe either of those products are doing as well as MS claims. Along with that MS has already pulled a similar stunt when they overstated how popular the first surface was and then had to backtrack and say they'd written off over a billion dollars worth.
Headphones aren't for noise canceling in my cube farm. I wear headphones because it's a signal to others to leave me alone.
Headphones on, door is shut, I'm busy. Headphones off, come have a chat, I need a distraction. 90% of the people in my building get it. There's really just a couple, one women in particular, that can't seem to understand the concept.
There are advantages to both. It'd be nice to almost sign out an office for a few hours a day. I like the interaction of the open floor, but sometimes I just need focus.
Thanks for pointing that out. I am aware/. spends too much time focusing on Google products. Something like the Epson Movario is the kind of thing I would have expected to read about here first. Not as an off handed comment, but as an actual story. It seems like/. only focus on Google, MS, Apple and political issues these days rather than interesting tech products and innovation.
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I'm really tired of that line, "Doesn't mean she deserves harassment"
I've been in GamerGate now for almost six months. What I've seen is people like Zoe Quinn, Brianna Wu, Anita Sarkeesian and Randi Harper harassing people then claiming they're the ones being harassed. Other than Anita Sarkeesian, I'd never heard of any of these other people before GamerGate.
Wu for example, created a twitter account BROLOLZ and used it to mock and harass GamerGate back in the beginning. When no one responded she created the "Oppressed Gamer" meme. Someone took that meme and ran with it, then she claimed people using her meme was harassment. Then she got threats from a zero day twitter account called "DeathToBrianna", there was no mention of GamerGate, but she screen capped it and sent it flying around twitter as evidence GamerGate had a hate on for her, that's what got her on a media tour.
I don't believe anyone deserves harassment, but what I'm seeing is people purposely going in and kicking bee hives, then calling for the extermination of bees when they get stung by a wasp. It's ridiculous, the media is eating it up and plastering it all over as, "these poor, poor innocent souls."
So yeah, I'm about to victim blame. If you poke a bear, it's your fault if you get bitten. I've lost all sympathy for people living under the double standard that it's ok for them to lie, cheat, steal, defame, dox, harass and threaten people, but then turn around and play the victim and advertise their patreons. Check the patreon accounts for anyone of the three I named above:
Randi Harper (antagonist, creator of the GGAutoblocker blocks GamerGate, which is fine. Continues to tweet at GamerGate and bullied an anti-GamerGate person off twitter for not being anti enough):
$2,422.86 a MONTH https://www.patreon.com/freebs...
Zoe Quinn (abuser, antagonist, liar, trust fund baby. Frankly we'd all be happier NOT talking about her because she's not relevant beyond the people that were involved around her [journalist, indi devs, indi judges], but every time she's forgotten she pulls some crap like this article to reinsert herself. She got in a twitter slap fight with Brianna Wu over who was the most harassed):
$4,000 a MONTH https://www.patreon.com/zoe
Brianna Wu (antagonist, liar, trust fund baby. She answered someone questioning her saying GamerGate was only 350 people with, "Thanks for the sexists remark" and accused David Pakman of running a hit piece on her for asking her how she knew it was GamerGate harassing her:
$13,000 a MONTH https://www.patreon.com/user?u...
^ this ^ is what a professional victim looks like.
I got into GamerGate because I was tired of the media BS about gamers being cis-white-male shitlord misogynerds. I won't lie, in the beginning, I didn't think GamerGate was important, it's about frigg'n video games. I thought it'd be like a week long thing, we'd write some letters to advertisers and the journalist involved would just apologize for being idiots, but it's just been one thing after another after another. The opposition to GamerGate is full of ex-neo-naizs (Ian Miles Cheong), pedophiles (Shara Butts), animal abuses (Randi Harper, Shara Butts), rape apologists (Author Chu) and professional victims (Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu, Zoe Quinn, Randi Harper, Grace Lynn) all sexists, racist, homophobic, hateful people who pretend to have the high moral ground because they alone are allowed to speak for women and minorities (Look up #NotYourShiled). All pointing fingers at a largely harmless group of people that are just tired of being demonized for a hobby that doesn't hurt anyone, and the media eats it up. You can look into the background of just about any of the major GamerGate "targets" and se
Best explanation I've read so far. Thank you AC. I'd give you a standing ovation if this wasn't over the internet.
it doesn't mean that Wayland isn't going to be a kludgy mess in five years.
After much discussion and watching many talks I'm under the impression that X11 is a kludgy mess *now*. The developers working on Wayland where the same developers who worked on X and they're the ones making the claim X is too much of a monster to clean up. My personal opinion is it doesn't matter what Wayland looks like in five years, the fact is X is unmanageable now. Developers are fixing bugs in X that are older than they are, that to me says it's time to take some lessons learned from the failures of X and start over to get a cleaner more maintainable solution.
And FWIW, that doesn't mean that Wayland is discarding useless features. It means those features will be grafted on later, one way or another. And when they are, they'll contribute to the kludge ridden crapfest that Wayland will inevitably become, not somehow cause it to be cleaner.
Can I borrow your crystal ball sometime? I'd like to see who's going to win the next world series. You can't possible know this is what is going to happen so you're arguing against trying to do the right thing because there's a possibility that it won't be any different then the current situation, which is a very nonsensical thing to argue. If Wayland ends up in the same situation in ten to fifteen years you can hold your head high and say I told you so, but at the moment based on every developer who's worked on X I've listened to Wayland can't possibly be any worse than X. When people make that claim, it means there's nothing to lose by trying.
Note that the concept of "client" and "server" are somewhat reversed from the normal meaning - the X "server" runs on your desktop, the client can run somewhere in a datacenter. Think about apps processing major datasets and then generating some output...makes sense then for the "client" to be on the larger computer.
Is how the developer in the linked youtube video above pretty much says it works.
don't forget it's also a print server, and a binary interpreter too
I can't forget that because I didn't know it in the first place.
Thanks, I'm not feeling so dumb anymore as many people here have pointed out the confusion is that the developers don't know what X is or what to do with it and Wayland is only intended to replace a small part of what X does. My feelings are although it's always sad to see a tried and true method that just works, or people have learned to work around, thrown away, it just makes sense to start over with a fresh perspective and lessons learned, especially when there's just so much bloat the code base becomes unmanageable. Maybe in five to ten years Wayland *will* be just as bad as X is now, but honestly if X is bad now, after 30 years, just think of how horrible it'll be in another ten. So it's still better to start fresh and get another 30 years out of Wayland at which point it could be redone again for whatever new hardware exists.
I noticed the AC comment was modded as overrated, but the post seems to provide lots of back story and reasoning for why some people are working toward Wayland adoption as well as some draw backs of Wayland.
It didn't seem to contain any flamebait or troll comments so is the post untrue or does it contain untrue statements? or is this just a case of a bad moderation?
I was just about to say that. I'm watching the video linked above and the developer, who worked on X, stated he had to fix bugs in X that were older than him.
Having to maintain someone else's monster can hardly be used to say another person a bad developer. I maintain at least three projects that were created before I started working at my current company and I'm glad no one judges my ability to write code based on code some no formal education self taught C guru programmer hacked together twenty years ago. They did a good job for what they had to work with at the time, knowledge and resources, but I've replaced entire libraries of poorly commented buggy code. Concepts were good, implementation wasn't.
Wayland you can actually describe to people, X I still haven't been able to.
Now I don't feel so bad about not understanding it.
This is very helpful, thank you.
I'm about 18 minutes in and they're starting to make sense now. The first ten minutes is really just a lot of back story on the speaker. Somewhere between ten and 18 minutes he starts getting into the issues with X.
what it was designed to do - remote display
Ok, now things make a lot more sense. It's amazing how one piece of the puzzle really brings out the picture. So essentially X was designed to do more than just display, which is why I've always been confused about what X actually did. Sometimes I thought it was a graphics driver, sometimes I thought it was a network protocol, but it's basically both.
I've read through the Wayland site and another half dozen pages that are obviously over my head and I just don't understand what Wayland is or what it's advantages are. I think it's suppose to be replacing X11, but I don't really understand X11 either, other than it's a method of getting things onto the screen. So I'm throwing my ignorance out there hoping I won't be flamed out of existence and someone can explain or point me to a laymen description of Wayland, and/or X11 and how one is better than the other. It seems like it should be a big deal since I've read there's been a lot of dissatisfaction with X11 for quite sometime and yet no one's ever done anything about it. That is until now, if Wayland is in fact a replacement
I'm sorry I realize this has been discussed several times and I'm sorry I'm just not getting it.
I don't think it was as big a deal five years ago. I certainly would have given them props for being so forward thinking in bringing up what was a non-issue at the time, but I imagine it would have been spun as they're wasting time on something no one cared about, so it's really lose-lose for them isn't it?
You know you're a Star Wars geek when you go to the Wookies building the Death Star before remembering that Chewbacca was the primary mechanic on the Falcon. You my friend diverse a second geek card.
;D
I apologize that this sounds like a sexist rant, but it is my personal experience and opinion. I'm sorry if it's offensive.
Have to agree here, by all my accounts girls receive the privilege in high school more than guys do. I've seen it time and time again where a boy asked for help and was told to do the homework and a girl asked for help and was given the answers. Whether they want to acknowledge that or not.
When I was in Chem 11 I had my older sister as my lab partner. We did the same work, but she received better grades on labs. Apparently nice handwriting with hearts over your 'i's makes you smarter, and no I didn't have messy hand writing. I still ended up with a higher grade because when she wasn't copying my work on test our strengths and weaknesses were much more apparent.
I also remember in one particular English class having a hard time with lexical categories. The internet was in it's infancy and all I had at home was an Atari 130XE, otherwise I would have just looked it up myself when the provided material was proven inadequate. I almost failed that class in grade nine despite asking for help on multiple occasions. My sister on the other hand received extra after class tutoring as part of a special group from the teacher who turned me down. I wasn't allowed to join the group because it was a female only study group and there was no male equivalent because it was discriminatory for boys to have their own exclusive study group, which also included a teacher as an aid. I did get together with a couple of other guys that were having trouble, but weren't allowed to join the group and we fumbled our way through it together, but it would have been a lot easier if we had the additional help of someone who actually knew what they were doing.
There are many occasions growing up that boys are told they're on their own and are excluded from certain activities or out right ban from forming male only groups, where as it's perfectly acceptable for girls to form exclusive female only groups that receive special treatments. Maybe this is why there are more male "nerds". We were always outcast, something that seems to be much more rare for girls.
we'll two bee fare i was written on my sell Phone. Surry i rattled you're kage.
I don't disagree with you tough. It was a ferocious statement of agreement, there really was no content to the comment. It really didn't deserve to be modded up. Maybe modded as Funny, if anything, but not as insightful.
That would just be to awesome.
I can't remember where I saw the comic, but it was -10 C Fall vs. Spring. I found a similar one for farenheit, but it's not the one I was thinking of. http://i.imgur.com/qzIm7y1.png
All we need is develop a car that runs on fat cells and we can use the liposuction from North Americans (Canadians included) to run the worlds transportation system indefinitely.
0 deg C is the freezing point. Well below is at least -20 deg C to most people in Canada. Heck in the spring when the temperature gets up to -10 deg C people pull out their shorts and t-shirts. It'd be nice if they were just a bit more specific.
Problem being "off site backups" are not the same as "cloud storage". My company has "off site backups" of our servers, both the server and off-site server are ours and under our control. Cloud storage is putting someone else in charge of your data. So yeah, you'll save money by outsourcing your IT staff and infrastructure to a cloud storage company, but when shit hits the fan you have no control over the servers you don't own. If cloud storage company X decides they need a higher payment to maintain your data, well you're kind of locked in and have to pay whatever they tell you too.
<tinfoilHat> Not to mention industrial espionage becomes much easier when cloud storage company X decides to double dip by selling your data to your competitors while "keeping it safe" for you.</tinfoilHat>
Fuck me, I'd rather be labeled a fanboy than an idiot.
I don't remember a time when the two were mutually exclusive.
I actually think they're cooking the books. I'm sure they're just moving numbers around to make their revenue stream seem larger after having a disastrous year and are hoping to make up for it next year. Big companies do it all the time. Besides revenue is a poor way to gage a company, they could have 24 billion in revenue and 50 billion in liabilities, or they might have to write off a few billion in "estimated revenues" later, like they did with the original surface.
Of the hundres of people I know, very few profess to buying a surface (pro or RT). My older sister received an RT as a gift and returned it because it was crap. I actually told her she had an RT and she might want to try out the surface pro, but she ended up with a Galaxy Tab. I've asked over a dozen of my gamer friends and only one bought an XBOne. No one wanted one sitting in their living room staring at them all the time. Some went with the PS4 most decided to skip this gen. So I find it very hard to believe either of those products are doing as well as MS claims. Along with that MS has already pulled a similar stunt when they overstated how popular the first surface was and then had to backtrack and say they'd written off over a billion dollars worth.
Headphones aren't for noise canceling in my cube farm. I wear headphones because it's a signal to others to leave me alone.
Headphones on, door is shut, I'm busy. Headphones off, come have a chat, I need a distraction. 90% of the people in my building get it. There's really just a couple, one women in particular, that can't seem to understand the concept.
There are advantages to both. It'd be nice to almost sign out an office for a few hours a day. I like the interaction of the open floor, but sometimes I just need focus.
Actually that was because I was typing on my phone and I misspelled a word. I MEAN, Je ne parle pas anglais!!
Thanks for pointing that out. I am aware /. spends too much time focusing on Google products. Something like the Epson Movario is the kind of thing I would have expected to read about here first. Not as an off handed comment, but as an actual story. It seems like /. only focus on Google, MS, Apple and political issues these days rather than interesting tech products and innovation.