what! I have to do something? It won't do it for me? Can't you just come over to my enterprise network and set it up for me since we both read slashdot.
I can't be bothered to spend an extra.7 seconds typing my name in that field, or even my office number, or my telephone number or something like that, that would require an additional.2 seconds of thought
Okay, while I would have a similar problem if a, say, Mandarin word were used for the title of a program, isn't bonjour rather an intercontinental French word. That is to say, have you never heard that used in all of your Western life? Just curious.
next time tho, maybe babelfish.altavista.com - gotta love the fish
Looking for permish before I snag this for my new.sig - that is the amazing leap of insight I have just never cared to put into those 4 words. Really makes you stop and go, now what am I doing this for?
did you set up your own linux box? can you install your own linux applications? can you find new drivers for the system for devices? do you know what it takes to get them to work? could you upgrade the kernel without upsetting the rest of the system? do you store your files on different partitions for the sake of reformatting or for dual-boot purposes? do you dual-boot? do you frequently run wine?
answering one or two of these questions no is still probably a good indication that you are very knowledgeable about linux, possibly bordering on hobbyist-expertise. that's sufficient
and what i believe the parent was trying to make reference to was, where are the rfc's that define these terms. just because you or i understand the terms, does that mean that they are "defined" by an authority (as are published rfcs)?
now, to be fair, i do believe an rfc is a "request for comment", which means that it is not fully defined, but instead, "this is what i believe needs to happen for this result to occur and i am spreading the word so that we all do the same thing every time"
They don't want our garbage, they want our money, and if that means them having to take the garbage, well, they'll take the garbage and the money for now...
Of course when data is normalized poorly sometimes you end up with impossible joins, only solved by unions.
A specific case comes to mind. A guy I worked with wanted to design a billing system. He had six tables represnting detail lines on the invoce. Each table had identical fields except for a few items. The data should not have been normalized because a report on invoicing would have required a six table union. Unacceptable IMO.
Doesn't sound very normalized to me. Those "identical fields" should have been moved into their own table.
I agree with your sentiments. The first thing that springs to mind is "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." (but of course)
Perhaps a review of what a normalized table is would refresh the memory of the gp? But perhaps we are mistaken, maybe other/.ers have a really good reason of why normalization would have been bad?
The article states that the teeth showed use-wear from chewing, indicating that the tooth excavations were indeed performed in mouth and the patients did live for an appropriately long length of time in that they continued to have use of their mouth.
Kinda like the romans and ?mayans/incas/aztecs(one of the three, don't feel like doing the google)? performing brain surgery and the patients living. This was proved by bone growth around the openings.
Didn't mean to give the impression that I thought that the multi setups were better for games, I don't game that often [wait for collective slashdot sigh to dissipate]. I personally would rather see better multi-threaded application support, however, IIRC, the big programs out there are: Adobe, Autodesk (Engin minor) and SAP, etc. So now we're left with a bunch of not-necessary-that-they-run-at-all programs which may or may not be multithreaded, and programs like Word or Excel that it really wouldn't be helpful that much more often to have them be multi-threaded, although if they're not now, I expect version 12 will be (since it's designed for the system that is designed for multi- support from the manufac (vista)). And you mentioned servers needing the better processor support, but in truth, wouldn't the servers be better served [no puns intended] by using one of the low-voltage server chips from either vendor? I agree that we need powerful servers and so-so dekstop machines for the general public, however muscle cars sold well for a reason, and now the "HEMI"s on the market are making a profit, even though the engines look like a disgrace next to a REAL HEMI. just my $.02 on this one though.
I also do not use the XP themes; I too consider them to be a waste of precious CPU/mem.
PowerPC has it's place, but since this site is merely an Intel-is-better-than-AMD-is-better-than-Intel site, I will bow out of this before a flamewar gets started.'
Just thought I would clarify on those points, as I am still running a 450-k6/2 as my main devel (since it's not on the 'net) and my laptop for everything else. The laptop's not even over 2.0 anyways, so I'm not exactly racing for speed. Although any donations on a dual-xeon-multicore workstation are gladly accepted:D.
They also, Have A Lot Of Math Education Per Capita. We, OTOH here in the States, have enough to allow people to push the <10.00> buttons and hope to get the right change. In my high school (in state A) we were taught all the math basics (you know, trig, pre-cal, nothing too hard), including how to use a scientific calculator (such as the simple TI line), and where I am now in Uni (almost ten years later, in state B), people in my math classes cannot even find the pi button, or sin/cos/tan (yeah, i know, three keys in the middle, so hard to see). And these are the kids who just graduated high school, that stuff should be fresh in their minds.
So much to ask for our country's education system, I guess. However, the good news is that there is a federal grant now available (for fall 06 term) for students in 3 & 4 year programs bach for Eng and Math and Sci as well as (some) For Lang. The country knows what part of the economy is off, their just about ten years behind (as always)
Google search for powerpc shows that they are IBM chips. Just thought you might like to know. They're not exactly looking to get out of the processor market, and I am even under the impression that they use PPC in their datacenter style servers, etc. Just so's use-all knows, s'all 'm sayin'.
Plus, I wonder if multicore couldn't work in a multi-processor setup?
Well, I work for a major computer manufacturer (think top 3, they also make very nice printers [market leaders you might say]) and the Enterprise class servers that we build all have multicore multiprocessor setups ([these three phrases should go without saying] - as of now, it seems like, and only since dual-core processors showed up on the market a few years back, seeing as how we have a custom Intel-hybrid processor and all). Granted these are machines which retail at the bottom for about 5-6 grand without many added parts or more mem or more proc, but the point I'm making is they all run WinXXXXXXXXX (fill in your own blanks here) as well as Linux and (need I say it) (our own custom) Unix (variant).
Also, Intel has been on the multi-core bent for the past, oh, dozen years or so, more like twenty.
So here's the thing, OOOE on die is more about having multiple loops segments that have different maths that all execute the same way. Most games would have that, Excel or Word would not. The reason why some things are faster is that they flat out ask the processor to do more calculations. And more cache per processor is generally a Good Thing[tm], but cache communication between cores is also good in some respects. AMD's architecture really allows for that more, I believe, because of the general construction of their memory pipe.
Once again, from my particular vantage point, the AMDs are strong, but the Intels seem to be stronger still.
isn't it entirely appropriate to have a lot of popunders and all the other. plus, what would make you search the internet (and view ads as well) if they gave you the information that was important instead of making you go, "hmmm, interesting, what else can i find about this. lemme just open a new window . . . "
and so now we get to the root of the problem, which has gone around before numerous times, only with properly written software will we have safer systems. If all software is written to account for the fact that we're past win95 and all the system architecture that that entails, i.e., no writing directly to program_files or directly to the registry, and instead writing to the individual users directories (speaking of which, we have user_internet_cache and user_temp and user_templates and user_everything_else_almost so where's user_prog_files and user_prog_reg_keys instead of global) and writing directly to the registry rather than using the provided api's for registry keys (ie my_prog_key_write and my_prog_key_read which MS provides) then we would not be in this mess.
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what! I have to do something? It won't do it for me? Can't you just come over to my enterprise network and set it up for me since we both read slashdot.
.7 seconds typing my name in that field, or even my office number, or my telephone number or something like that, that would require an additional .2 seconds of thought
I can't be bothered to spend an extra
sheesh, you insensitive clod
Okay, while I would have a similar problem if a, say, Mandarin word were used for the title of a program, isn't bonjour rather an intercontinental French word. That is to say, have you never heard that used in all of your Western life? Just curious.
next time tho, maybe babelfish.altavista.com - gotta love the fish
Ohhh, bad luck, but I was thinking of . . .
nm
What the? Who cares about 5 measly megawatts, don't you know we all really want 1.21 jiggawatts?
(did i remember to check post as ac? oops)
political-philosophy geek
while geek is traditionally math or sciences, that is not a concrete definition. it's the love of the subject matter that's at stake
Looking for permish before I snag this for my new .sig - that is the amazing leap of insight I have just never cared to put into those 4 words. Really makes you stop and go, now what am I doing this for?
so i'm not the only geeky person who seriously digs stuff like how-it-works and modern-marvels etc
did you set up your own linux box? can you install your own linux applications? can you find new drivers for the system for devices? do you know what it takes to get them to work? could you upgrade the kernel without upsetting the rest of the system? do you store your files on different partitions for the sake of reformatting or for dual-boot purposes? do you dual-boot? do you frequently run wine?
answering one or two of these questions no is still probably a good indication that you are very knowledgeable about linux, possibly bordering on hobbyist-expertise. that's sufficient
Oh if only google would implement a service like this for all of us
and what i believe the parent was trying to make reference to was, where are the rfc's that define these terms. just because you or i understand the terms, does that mean that they are "defined" by an authority (as are published rfcs)?
now, to be fair, i do believe an rfc is a "request for comment", which means that it is not fully defined, but instead, "this is what i believe needs to happen for this result to occur and i am spreading the word so that we all do the same thing every time"
They don't want our garbage, they want our money, and if that means them having to take the garbage, well, they'll take the garbage and the money for now...
MY ANSWER!!! You have found it. Now, quickly, before they get here, let me tell you what my question wa
isn't that the whole idea behind well written and concieved code? just thought i would check.
Perhaps a review of what a normalized table is would refresh the memory of the gp? But perhaps we are mistaken, maybe other
might i remark on your wonderous leap of logic, that they died at some point?
in other news: Somebody mod this post up, For I have NO Mod Points!
The article states that the teeth showed use-wear from chewing, indicating that the tooth excavations were indeed performed in mouth and the patients did live for an appropriately long length of time in that they continued to have use of their mouth.
Kinda like the romans and ?mayans/incas/aztecs(one of the three, don't feel like doing the google)? performing brain surgery and the patients living. This was proved by bone growth around the openings.
Didn't mean to give the impression that I thought that the multi setups were better for games, I don't game that often [wait for collective slashdot sigh to dissipate]. I personally would rather see better multi-threaded application support, however, IIRC, the big programs out there are: Adobe, Autodesk (Engin minor) and SAP, etc. So now we're left with a bunch of not-necessary-that-they-run-at-all programs which may or may not be multithreaded, and programs like Word or Excel that it really wouldn't be helpful that much more often to have them be multi-threaded, although if they're not now, I expect version 12 will be (since it's designed for the system that is designed for multi- support from the manufac (vista)). And you mentioned servers needing the better processor support, but in truth, wouldn't the servers be better served [no puns intended] by using one of the low-voltage server chips from either vendor? I agree that we need powerful servers and so-so dekstop machines for the general public, however muscle cars sold well for a reason, and now the "HEMI"s on the market are making a profit, even though the engines look like a disgrace next to a REAL HEMI. just my $.02 on this one though.
:D.
I also do not use the XP themes; I too consider them to be a waste of precious CPU/mem.
PowerPC has it's place, but since this site is merely an Intel-is-better-than-AMD-is-better-than-Intel site, I will bow out of this before a flamewar gets started.'
Just thought I would clarify on those points, as I am still running a 450-k6/2 as my main devel (since it's not on the 'net) and my laptop for everything else. The laptop's not even over 2.0 anyways, so I'm not exactly racing for speed. Although any donations on a dual-xeon-multicore workstation are gladly accepted
They also, Have A Lot Of Math Education Per Capita. We, OTOH here in the States, have enough to allow people to push the <10.00> buttons and hope to get the right change. In my high school (in state A) we were taught all the math basics (you know, trig, pre-cal, nothing too hard), including how to use a scientific calculator (such as the simple TI line), and where I am now in Uni (almost ten years later, in state B), people in my math classes cannot even find the pi button, or sin/cos/tan (yeah, i know, three keys in the middle, so hard to see). And these are the kids who just graduated high school, that stuff should be fresh in their minds.
So much to ask for our country's education system, I guess. However, the good news is that there is a federal grant now available (for fall 06 term) for students in 3 & 4 year programs bach for Eng and Math and Sci as well as (some) For Lang. The country knows what part of the economy is off, their just about ten years behind (as always)
Not a US gov't basher, just sharing
The initial "Google search" in the above should be Google search
Well, I work for a major computer manufacturer (think top 3, they also make very nice printers [market leaders you might say]) and the Enterprise class servers that we build all have multicore multiprocessor setups ([these three phrases should go without saying] - as of now, it seems like, and only since dual-core processors showed up on the market a few years back, seeing as how we have a custom Intel-hybrid processor and all). Granted these are machines which retail at the bottom for about 5-6 grand without many added parts or more mem or more proc, but the point I'm making is they all run WinXXXXXXXXX (fill in your own blanks here) as well as Linux and (need I say it) (our own custom) Unix (variant).
Also, Intel has been on the multi-core bent for the past, oh, dozen years or so, more like twenty.
So here's the thing, OOOE on die is more about having multiple loops segments that have different maths that all execute the same way. Most games would have that, Excel or Word would not. The reason why some things are faster is that they flat out ask the processor to do more calculations. And more cache per processor is generally a Good Thing[tm], but cache communication between cores is also good in some respects. AMD's architecture really allows for that more, I believe, because of the general construction of their memory pipe.
Once again, from my particular vantage point, the AMDs are strong, but the Intels seem to be stronger still.
isn't it entirely appropriate to have a lot of popunders and all the other. plus, what would make you search the internet (and view ads as well) if they gave you the information that was important instead of making you go, "hmmm, interesting, what else can i find about this. lemme just open a new window . . . "
I think its quite what they intended to do.
No, I give it till at least April 4 :b
i sent , errrm, one?
bwah ha ha . . .
and so now we get to the root of the problem, which has gone around before numerous times, only with properly written software will we have safer systems. If all software is written to account for the fact that we're past win95 and all the system architecture that that entails, i.e., no writing directly to program_files or directly to the registry, and instead writing to the individual users directories (speaking of which, we have user_internet_cache and user_temp and user_templates and user_everything_else_almost so where's user_prog_files and user_prog_reg_keys instead of global) and writing directly to the registry rather than using the provided api's for registry keys (ie my_prog_key_write and my_prog_key_read which MS provides) then we would not be in this mess.
:(
alas, I am no longer allowed to kill at will.