Ah, yes see what you mean, now if you only could get this standard widget set on top of the client's x server so one didn't need to transport how to draw something over the network, but just telling the server "draw button at x*y etc".
It's unfortunatelly not as simple as just hiding the underlying API, Sometimes (like the top menubar you mentioned for example) KDE and Gnome got a completely different way of working. Even *if* they used the same API calls they do not use them in the same manner. They got different ideas from each other and implement things differently
Well, the multi-language support of.net is more like a skinnable language support. Performance is not that bad nowadays.. please try again. No one of my friends doing java even consider that a problem anymore and the stuff done involves OpenGL on Java as well. Anyway, MS wont implement the CLR for Linux so even if they do a better job I doubt Linux will see any results from it.
unsigned not there yup, sucks... the dir thing can be a pain, but you get used to it rather quickly and it can be quite nice with bigger proj since you *have* to structure all your files.
and yup, it's not open, so true,.net might be a better choice than AJva then for Gnome
People who include lines like I wonder how long it will take before I get modded down for not toeing the party line...a few mins?should be modded down IMHO - God I'm getting tired of it, that line destroyed an otherwise perfectly sensible comment:-(
Ah, for the time being yes. but as the pc market gets saturated their only hope is either to get people into the upgrade treadmill with windows XP or expand to other markets. If they can't sustain their growth then their employees stock options will be useless - which means they have to start paying their emplyees more of their own money. MS can't survive as it is without growth. Now, this is off course only my own theiries around the matter and I might be completely off track;-)
Not that I think MS is going to disapear cmpletely, but I do think the same thing that happened to IBM will happen to them as well.
Well for every xbox sold MS loose money -it 's the games they make money at - so buy one for all means! Just don't buy the games. Making it run linux would be a nice littel project and quite a funny thing to do to MS;-)
Don't expect MS to give it up anytime soon. They got shitloads of more cash to throw at it than Sega had. IMHO MS need the xbox desperatly in order to sustain their stock value. PC market has slowed down therefore they need to move in to other areas.
being secure was never in unix original design. On the contrary, unix supposed all other remote servers to be 'good'. the security of unix has been added at a later stage. And I'm not too sure that unix will survive in the long run. When there will be a big paradigm shift, there's a big possibility unix will 'die' (think biological computers, think quark computing - these ways of computing would be so fundamentally d iferent from what we do today that it might not even be possible nor wanted to run a unix derivate on them) breaking down a large problem into smaller pieces is something unix do very well, but I'm not sure I would call it an idea of unix, it's an idea that existed long before and been applied to unix to a great degree.
Ah that's whas what I was trying to get to, as a monopoly MS can forcefeed a browser down the throat on people, people in general as 'lazy', meaning if there's a decent browser on the machine when they get one they most likely gonna use that one rather than downloading another one. Guess why OEMs can't remove ie from windows and add their browser of choice? killed netscape. with KDE and Gnome you got a few choices, the distribution usually comes with a few browsers, not only one, even if there might be a 'prefered' browser, it's fairly easy to switch, or even switch distro if you like the other one better. in the Wintel world you only got *one* choice really if you can't download your other choice. and MS deliberately tied in both the MedialPlayer and ie into the OS that it's stupid! Look you need ie in order to be able to install IIS on a server! How fscking clever is that!! It's forcefeeding, nothing else... Of course nowadays you can't separated ie and windows easily, MS bloody hell made sure of that!!
oh, better stop ranting, my poor heart.. calm down.. cup of tea...
funny this comment always pops up when there's something about KDE on slashdot.. oh well.. For fsck sake, use whatever you're happy with. Bloody waste of energy to get so into the desktop flamefests....
IEs integration into windows is not a monopoly by itself, however since MS *IS* a monopoly they can't do that. Monopolies can't be allowed to play by the same rules as non-monopolies since they got advantages that the non-monopolies doesn't have
Ms got guidelines for user interfaces, they can't however enforce them on people. If developers wont follow them then there's not much they can do... but indeed maybe they should let their own developers read the book as well
Also on msdn
yeah, just the idea: Aliens land on earth to start a fast food franchise serving human flesh and brain... remember that 'milk-shake'???:-) Only one thing I feel bad about, all the killed seagulls on which p. jackson lands after falling of the cliff... poor little creatures...*grin*
Brain Dead?? not bad, but the best Peter Jackson movie off all time must be Bad Taste, starring Mr Jackson himself, loosing abit of his brain and replacing it with alien brain instead... oh what a movie
Funny thing about Brain Dead, went completely uncut through the censors in Swededn when it came out since they though it was so cartoonish and cheeky
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can I sense a streak of bitterness???
IIRC the highest priority task in Windows is driving the mouse pointer. Isn't the mouse hardware interrupt driven under windows?
Ah, yes see what you mean, now if you only could get this standard widget set on top of the client's x server so one didn't need to transport how to draw something over the network, but just telling the server "draw button at x*y etc".
It's unfortunatelly not as simple as just hiding the underlying API, Sometimes (like the top menubar you mentioned for example) KDE and Gnome got a completely different way of working. Even *if* they used the same API calls they do not use them in the same manner. They got different ideas from each other and implement things differently
interfaces were not a 'hack' (which true definition you should look up), but a decision taken when designing the language.
Well, the multi-language support of .net is more like a skinnable language support.
.net might be a better choice than AJva then for Gnome
Performance is not that bad nowadays.. please try again. No one of my friends doing java even consider that a problem anymore and the stuff done involves OpenGL on Java as well. Anyway, MS wont implement the CLR for Linux so even if they do a better job I doubt Linux will see any results from it.
unsigned not there yup, sucks...
the dir thing can be a pain, but you get used to it rather quickly and it can be quite nice with bigger proj since you *have* to structure all your files.
and yup, it's not open, so true,
People who include lines like :-(
I wonder how long it will take before I get modded down for not toeing the party line...a few mins? should be modded down IMHO - God I'm getting tired of it, that line destroyed an otherwise perfectly sensible comment
Ah, for the time being yes. but as the pc market gets saturated their only hope is either to get people into the upgrade treadmill with windows XP or expand to other markets. If they can't sustain their growth then their employees stock options will be useless - which means they have to start paying their emplyees more of their own money. ;-)
MS can't survive as it is without growth.
Now, this is off course only my own theiries around the matter and I might be completely off track
Not that I think MS is going to disapear cmpletely, but I do think the same thing that happened to IBM will happen to them as well.
I still don't get it... was that one or two o's?? and are the spaces in between compulsory?
Well for every xbox sold MS loose money -it 's the games they make money at - so buy one for all means! Just don't buy the games. ;-)
Making it run linux would be a nice littel project and quite a funny thing to do to MS
Don't expect MS to give it up anytime soon. They got shitloads of more cash to throw at it than Sega had.
IMHO MS need the xbox desperatly in order to sustain their stock value. PC market has slowed down therefore they need to move in to other areas.
mixing uppers and downers can have...eh... interesting effects...
It's a classic trick while trying to get off yer head...
I think that went over my head....
You probably didn't had Ho Chi Minh as a friend ever since he was the one you tried to bomb back to stone age in the vietnam war!
dunno, beats me... maybe you're not too clever or sumtink?
being secure was never in unix original design. On the contrary, unix supposed all other remote servers to be 'good'. the security of unix has been added at a later stage.
And I'm not too sure that unix will survive in the long run. When there will be a big paradigm shift, there's a big possibility unix will 'die' (think biological computers, think quark computing - these ways of computing would be so fundamentally d iferent from what we do today that it might not even be possible nor wanted to run a unix derivate on them)
breaking down a large problem into smaller pieces is something unix do very well, but I'm not sure I would call it an idea of unix, it's an idea that existed long before and been applied to unix to a great degree.
It's an aussie show IIRC, and you could see it here in UK as well
Ah that's whas what I was trying to get to, as a monopoly MS can forcefeed a browser down the throat on people, people in general as 'lazy', meaning if there's a decent browser on the machine when they get one they most likely gonna use that one rather than downloading another one.
Guess why OEMs can't remove ie from windows and add their browser of choice? killed netscape.
with KDE and Gnome you got a few choices, the distribution usually comes with a few browsers, not only one, even if there might be a 'prefered' browser, it's fairly easy to switch, or even switch distro if you like the other one better. in the Wintel world you only got *one* choice really if you can't download your other choice. and MS deliberately tied in both the MedialPlayer and ie into the OS that it's stupid! Look you need ie in order to be able to install IIS on a server! How fscking clever is that!! It's forcefeeding, nothing else... Of course nowadays you can't separated ie and windows easily, MS bloody hell made sure of that!!
oh, better stop ranting, my poor heart.. calm down.. cup of tea...
funny this comment always pops up when there's something about KDE on slashdot.. oh well..
For fsck sake, use whatever you're happy with. Bloody waste of energy to get so into the desktop flamefests....
IEs integration into windows is not a monopoly by itself, however since MS *IS* a monopoly they can't do that. Monopolies can't be allowed to play by the same rules as non-monopolies since they got advantages that the non-monopolies doesn't have
Ms got guidelines for user interfaces, they can't however enforce them on people. If developers wont follow them then there's not much they can do... but indeed maybe they should let their own developers read the book as well Also on msdn
classic ;-)
well, been a while since last time so now its probably: "mozillaengineersareweenies"
mod up!
don't think it can tell where yo are without 3 birds, if you only got one, then it wont be able to set a GMT offset.
yeah, just the idea: Aliens land on earth to start a fast food franchise serving human flesh and brain... remember that 'milk-shake'??? :-)
Only one thing I feel bad about, all the killed seagulls on which p. jackson lands after falling of the cliff... poor little creatures...*grin*
Brain Dead?? not bad, but the best Peter Jackson movie off all time must be Bad Taste, starring Mr Jackson himself, loosing abit of his brain and replacing it with alien brain instead... oh what a movie
Funny thing about Brain Dead, went completely uncut through the censors in Swededn when it came out since they though it was so cartoonish and cheeky