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Review: Blade II - Electric Boogaloo

I took some time to go and see the sequel to the 1998 film Blade and I thought I'd post a review about the movie and see what other slashdotters thought. In general it was like watching someone else play a really pretty beta quality video game. Read on if you'd like to know more. I don't spoil much of anything, I assure you. Well, the mystery for me is over. I know who made all that money during the dot-com bubble. It was Blade. Remember in the first Blade movie, he had to hock the watches and things that he took off the vampires he killed for working capital? I found it sort of grounding that he had to pay for his silver and garlic. In this movie, he's been able to pick up gobs of silver bullets and weaponry, shipped his muscle car, machinery and support guy to Prague to find his friend Whistler. Whistler is played by the unshowered, unshaven, crotchety Kris Kristofferson, who was supposed to have died in the last movie.

He finds him, of course. Mind you, Whistler's now a vampire who is in some kind of hastily unexplained "stasis" for the last few years, so that Blade can inoculate him against the vampire virus and make him human again. The science in this movie, by the way, is insultingly bad, and exceptionally inconsistent. It seems to me if you are going to offer some kind of crappy vampire virus you might as well make it somewhat consistent. It's airborne! It's blood borne! It turns out it's script borne, infecting those who it's convienient to infect and missing, strangely, Blade and his pals.

The story (which I urge you to ignore) is that Blade must team up with the "BloodPack" to defeat a new, powerful and virulent strain of vampires known as the "Reaper" strain which poses a threat to the Vampire Nation and to Humanity alike.

I don't want to dwell on the story too much since, well, the producers of Blade II didn't, so why should I? But the stupid names they chose for everything. "Whistler," "Scud" and "Blade" must defeat the "Reapers" with the help of the "Bloodpack" of the "Vampire Nation." This clearly points to their actual audience. Immature 13-year-old boys up late watching bad cable when Cinemax after dark just isn't doing it for them.

And me, I guess, I mean, I did go and watch this tripe. Perhaps the only redeeming features of Blade II are the fight scenes, a number of which were even filmed such that you could see what was going on. The ones you could make out were fantastic, full of groovy moves and excellent gymnastics and flashing leather, steel, vampire flavored flash bangs and flying silver bullets. So that was fun, but watching Blade II makes you realize how well Blade I's fights were filmed. And don't get me into the numerous continuity errors that whap you on the forehead every ten minutes.

As far as Wesley Snipes' performance, it was energetic. I'd place this movie somewhere between Drop Zone and Passenger 57 in the Snipes oeuvre.

So , if you really really really like playing Mortal Kombat-style fighting games, go see Blade II. Also, if you want to see the trailer for the upcoming Friday the 13th movie, Jason X, Jason in Space, go see Blade II. Yes, I'm serious, Jason X. 10! In Space! Starring lots of Canadian sci-fi actors on break from Andromeda ! I weep for action cinema. Thank God I've got Hard Boiled on DVD.

365 comments

  1. plot.. what plot by 56ker · · Score: 0, Redundant

    "The story (which I urge you to ignore)" - ah another one of those we forgot about the plot films then...

    1. Re:plot.. what plot by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      Ack, don't listen to him, this guy obviously has no place in a theater. Just another angry, bitter movie goer who won't be happy with anything because they forgot that they went to watch a MOVIE and not a documentary. Too cynical to just go and relax and enjoy the movie. Save your review for SW Ep. II. Ack!

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    2. Re:plot.. what plot by Stoutlimb · · Score: 2

      Jeez... if the producers obviously ignored several aspects of a film, there must have been a reason for that. They weren't important. Many good artists ignore or deliberatly avoid certain aspects of their art, in order to emphasise or put work into other areas. Obviously, the director doesn't want you to judge him on this point.

      The strong points of the movie are:

      Special effetcts. (They kick ass.) This takes art and skill. Fight scenes and vampires were really well done.

      Ambience: This movie creates a feel like no other movie. That in itself is an achievement. I didn't like any of the batman movies, but I so thouroughly enjoyed the architecture and art in the movie. The interior design and the dark eye candy of the movie was extremely well done, on par with Lord of the Rings, but in a dark, evil,
      industrial sort of way. The attention to detail, like the cool weapons, outfits and sets was out of this world.

      The plot: It all depends what you are expecting... It's fast paced, it's fun, it's full of twists and turns, and a few overturned cliches. The plot went on like a fast-paced RPG session where everyone is just having a great time and not nit-picking every scene. For this reason, I liked it. Good entertainment. Definately not shakespeare or a technically accurate vampire documetary, but then again, I didn't expect it to be. Apparently the reviewer expected these things... so of course he didn't really like it. Compared to movies like "Ghosts of Mars", this action movie's plot kicked total ass. It's an action movie.

      So yea... I loved the movie, and this was why.

      Bork!

  2. Blade was an excellent example a good Vam Movie by taya0001 · · Score: 0

    The first blade combined all sorts of elements that made it pop with people who like vampire stuff and sci-fi stuff in general. Had a ok story and plotline. If the sequal dose just an ok job the movie will prob be good.

    I vant to suck your vlood!

  3. A counter opinion... by mbourgon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Roger Ebert (don't laugh until you've read his column- the TV show DOESN'T COUNT):
    http://www.sun-times.com/output/ebert1/wk p-news-bl ade22f.html

    Excerpts:
    The movie is an improvement on "Blade" (1998), which was pretty good.
    [...]
    This news is conveyed by a vampire leader whose brain can be dimly seen through a light blue translucent plastic shell, more evidence of the design influence of the original iMac.
    [...]
    You can sense the difference between a movie that's a technical exercise ("Resident Evil") and one steamed in the dread cauldrons of the filmmaker's imagination.

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    1. Re:A counter opinion... by Alien54 · · Score: 2
      I like this line from that review:

      This reminded me of the night in O'Rourke's when McHugh asked this guy why he carried a gun and the guy said he lived in a dangerous neighborhood and McHugh said it would be safer if he moved.

      Although there is no accounting for taste.

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    2. Re:A counter opinion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one cares about your review you idiot Linux geek. You're not a movie reviewer, you nothing abuot cinema, and your review is a joke. Go back to masturbating over your kernel OS or whatever the hell it is you do.

    3. Re:A counter opinion... by Fafhrd · · Score: 1
      According to the Ebert review linked on the parent:
      Written by Mary Wolfman, Gene Colan and David S. Goyer.

      Nice to see that they gave Marv Wolfman and Gene Colan, the original creators of the comic book Blade, co-writer credit.
      However, I don't think Marv will like being called "Mary"... I hope the newspaper editor was responsible for this mistake, not Ebert or the producers

  4. Well seriously what were you expecting? by psxndc · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I saw blade II. Did I love it? Nah. Did I hate it? Nah. Did I seriously expect character development and a sense of being moved at the end. Puh-lease. Blade II is a summer flick, 3 months too early. You expect fights, cool gadgets, and an occasional betrayal. Blade II delivers. It succeeds in its mission. Should you go see it? I dunno. It depends on what you're looking for in a summer flick released in the spring.

    PS I think JasonX looks like Grade A, B movie goodnes.

    psxndc

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    1. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by NeuroKoan · · Score: 1

      "Yeah, Finals are over. Lets see Blade 2. I want to go watch a movie where my brain doesn't have to work to hard"

      "Yeah, no kidding. We can go watch Gossford Park next weekend"

      That conversation sum up my feelings on Blade 2. It was perfect in that sense.

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    2. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by Wehesheit · · Score: 1

      Jason X kicked ass and if freely avaliable via kazaa

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    3. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by colmore · · Score: 2

      actually Gossford Park is a good Blade 2 analogue.

      The individual scenes are great, the whole just doesn't add up though. If Blade had been a comic book, it would have gone back for a few re-writes. If Gossford Park were a novel, the author probably would have been a bit more subtle (oh! I wonder who his mother could *be* )

      Go to Blade if you want to see fight scenes.

      Go to GP if you want brittish people wittily mocking one another and generally acting at their BBC-ish best.

      If you want movies that work as a whole rather than just on a scene-by-scene basis, I'd suggest Lord of the Rings for fights, The Panic Room for scares, Royal Tennenbaums for "quality," and Y Tu Mama Tambien for laughs and subtitles.

      I'm serious about Y Tu Mama Tambien, it's worth the drive to wherever it's showing remotely near you.

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    4. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by firemoose · · Score: 1

      Agreed. No one should expect complex characters, accurate science, or insight on to the human condition from any Hollywood-produced action flicks nowadays. Cheesy names and lack of plot are too keep you awake until the next action scene. Hey, the director did have some sense of humor though, for those of you who have seen Blade II or plan to, take care to notice three letters amongst the array of martial arts in the fight scenes: W-W-F

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    5. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by ppanon · · Score: 1
      PS I think JasonX looks like Grade A, B movie goodness.

      Whereas Blade II is type AB negative?
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    6. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by LarsWestergren · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Oh god, don't mention summer movies. I can feel my brain start to rot even now. I can already hear the "man, you HAVE to see it, everyone else is!" comments. Yes, paying to have my intelligence insulted again and again. I really MUST see it. Please repeat after me children!

      while (true) {
      System.out.println("You MUST see it.");
      }

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    7. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by dimator · · Score: 2

      Come on now, sometimes it's just fun to turn the brain to "be impressed by shiny things" mode and take in summer movies on opening night with a packed, enthusiastic audience, laughing and going nuts. I like serious movies, but there's something to be said for the likes of X-Men, T2, and hell even ID4.

      Did these films move me, or make me "feel" something at the end? Probably not, but they were fun to watch.

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    8. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by Jason_Knx · · Score: 1

      Yea, this movie was basically a summer flick. But I have to admit after seeing Blade I I was really looking forward to it. If for no other than to just sit back and enjoy 2 hours of meaningless action. I loved the movie for what it was. It really never tried to play itself as something different. Just nothing but fighting and gore with vampires and vampire enemies alike.

    9. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by Phucilage · · Score: 1

      how utterly amusing... blade started out as a comic book, originally in the spiderman comicbook =P

    10. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by Xaoswolf · · Score: 1

      I hated Blade II actually. I thought that the fight scenes were done with horrible computer graphics, I mean, don't blade and the two vampires he's fighting have bones. When the blood pack broke into his warehouse, it looked like a couple of squid going at it. If I wanted to see a movie with bad special effects and a crummy story, I'll go see Jason X(which I definatly will be doing).

    11. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahahaha. I'm glad someone else besides me thinks that. That, and the stupid introduction (Blade is supposed to be dark and mysterious, not shaft with pointy teeth) were the only complaints I had about the movie.

    12. Re:Well seriously what were you expecting? by jmccay · · Score: 2

      I would definately agree. I thought it was great, but I went in with the realization that this wasn't going to be the best store every written. I also liked the seeing Danny John-Jules playing somethign other than Cat/Duane Dibbley from Red Dwarf. Although, I kept waiting for him to act like a cat.

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  5. Let us bow our heads and be thankful by Kickstart70 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jon Katz didn't write this review.

    1. Re:Let us bow our heads and be thankful by 56ker · · Score: 1

      then the review would've been worse than the film. (and as Basil Brush would say *boom* *boom*)

    2. Re:Let us bow our heads and be thankful by motox · · Score: 2, Funny

      maybe it's the beginning of a new trend. People should rush to every movie with the goal of writing a review before jon katz does. this way we will drive him to suicide, maybe.

    3. Re:Let us bow our heads and be thankful by PhoenxHwk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, but JonKatz's review would tell us of the chilling reality of vampire movies in a post-9/11 society. The ramifications of this being that we now live in a world where Vampires and Blade can get along in the face of a greater danger. Just like the Taliban. Or something.

    4. Re:Let us bow our heads and be thankful by TheLink · · Score: 2

      Stop! You're scaring me!

      I have my Katz slashdot filters for a reason you know!

      ;)

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  6. decisions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    see blade 2 or spend the evening pounding penny nails into my skull

    tough call

  7. you were expecting something else? by abolith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I didn't think it was THAT bad, geez. Ya it had some problems but this isn't the kind if movie you go and see for a plot, you see it for some good FX and lots-o-vampire-Asswhoopin. That is what the movie had, technology and science be damned. It wasn't made to be on the plot line level of say brotherhood of the wolf, or Braveheart, it was made to be as it was. The next time you go to see a movie, try to have a realistic expectaion of what it will have, and it will have what you are expecting.
    Plain and simple...

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    1. Re:you were expecting something else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Mr. Snipes doesn't win an Oscar for this next year I'm going to be sadly thinking the Academy is racist. His portrayal of Blade was fantastic. It gave me shivers and made Denzel Washington look like a sick hack.

    2. Re:you were expecting something else? by ErikTheRed · · Score: 2

      Exactly. I saw this with 6 friends on opening night in a sold-out showing. Everyone there seemed to enjoy it just fine for what it was: your basic popcorn vampire flick with gratuitous (CGI-assisted) violence. It had a couple of well scripted lines ("You're human?" "Well, almost. I'm a lawyer"), and tons of flashy action sequences. The movie got an ovation (albeit not a standing one) when the credits started to roll. Basically, it's a movie that deftly accomplishes what it set out to do - provide basic, brain-dead entertainment. Woo hoo!

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    3. Re:you were expecting something else? by Kriticism · · Score: 1

      Here's a link to an essay by noted RPG designer John Wick. It talks about how reviewers need to get a clue, and does it in a most entertaining manner. Enjoy.

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    4. Re:you were expecting something else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While the effects sucked, and the intro was completely out of place and silly, and the plot didn't make sense...
      It came through on the ass-whooping. Which is what really mattered.

  8. Hey I get the reference! Beat Street II! by cculianu · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hey, you remember the arcade game in the 80's called Beat Street II - Electric Boogaloo? Or was it a movie? Oh yeah I think it was a movie about breakdancing. Or was it a game?

    Help!

    1. Re:Hey I get the reference! Beat Street II! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Hey I get the reference! Beat Street II! by n2dasun · · Score: 1

      Breakin' II. A movie about breakdancing. A pretty good movie, if I remember correctly.

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    3. Re:Hey I get the reference! Beat Street II! by dorsey · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:Hey I get the reference! Beat Street II! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look it up on google next time, you dumbass. Or just use the telephone to call someone smart. The Internet is obviously too sophisticated for you.

  9. Blade 2 is this years The Mummy Returns... by Phil+Wilkins · · Score: 1

    ...although it would be hard to suck as much as that did.

    1. Re:Blade 2 is this years The Mummy Returns... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? You don't like The Rock?

  10. Thanks for the info by LoRyder · · Score: 1

    ...But I'll wait for the DVD release and pop my own popcorn.

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  11. My take by BSDGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Blade II reminded me a lot of Resident Evil. Mostly in regard to the "creatures". The plot was decent, I suppose. There was a lot of action, as to be expected. And I thought that Wesley Snipes does a great job of acting. The special effects were definately better than in Blade I. I too saw the trailer of Jason X, it appears that on every deep space exploration mission, some evil being appears... 2 Andromeda women are in the Jason X movie, Lexa Doig, and someone who's name eludes me at the moment.

    1. Re:My take by Com2Kid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I saw RE on Friday and Blade II yesterday (Monday).

      Let me say that the movies are HARDLY alike. The first scene from Blade II MAYBE, but that is it.

      Resident Evil has you jumping up in your chair going "Holy shit!" (first time I've actualy been SCARED at a horror movie, LOL. VERY nice job Sony, w00t! Go see RE !NOW!)

      Blade has the FIRST ORIGINAL USE OF SLOW MOTION EFFECTS SINCE THE MATRIX that literaly had the ENTIRE audiance cheering out loud. Yes it was THAT good. Well that and I think that all action movie fans by now are sick and f*cking tired of the same old cliche slow'mo effects in movies, hehe. The producers of Blade II got the slow motion thing out of the way right away and that was it. :)

      RE has a good deal more story line in it then Blade II, and far less actual butt whooping. (there is hardly any but whooping in RE oddly enough, a lot of dead things being re-killed though.), Blade II had more of the humor that made the original Blade so darn kick ass. :)

    2. Re:My take by Transcendent · · Score: 1

      The special effects were definately better than in Blade I

      I haven't seen Blade II, but the "blood god" "special effects" at the end were horrid! I could do better on 3dmax! I hope they shot that guy who made the special effects, and also the editors/producers that didn't shoot him after they saw the finished product...

    3. Re:My take by elfkicker · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen the original in a while, but are you sure you're not talking about the alternate ending on the DVD? That SUCKED. Then again, that's why they didn't use it and I'd suppose, never finished it.

      I think the ending they actually went with was pretty good.

      As for the new one, just go see it if you like the first one. Better effects. A much more comic book feel. The plot is cheesy, but it is an action movie about vampires. Duh.

      It was infinitely better than Queen of the Damned.

    4. Re:My take by Colin+Winters · · Score: 2

      One of the best movies to use slow motion effects is Shaolin Soccer. It uses wire effects and slow motion better than any movie I've ever seen outside of Crouching Tiger and the Matrix. The plot didn't do anything for me, but there is _nothing_ cooler than seeing shaloin monks playing soccer. It may sound silly, but it's actually damned cool. It still doesn't have a U.S. release, so you'll either need to order it or grab it off the internet.

      Colin Winters

    5. Re:My take by glyph42 · · Score: 1

      Blade has the FIRST ORIGINAL USE OF SLOW MOTION EFFECTS SINCE THE MATRIX that literaly had the ENTIRE audiance cheering out loud.

      Okay, I just have to point out that SwordFish had one very cool bit of slow-mo effect (the big explosion near the beginning) that had the whole audience vocalizing. Stuff like "holy shit!" and "woo". So I can't agree that Blade II had the first post-Matrix cool slow-mo effect :) Still, you make it sound like I should see this Blade II.

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    6. Re:My take by Skirwan · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Resident Evil has you jumping up in your chair going "Holy shit!" (first time I've actualy been SCARED at a horror movie, LOL. VERY nice job Sony, w00t! Go see RE !NOW!)
      Maybe RE had you jumping up in your chair, but those of us who have actually seen a movie before found it terribly, terribly predictable.

      The 'shocks' in RE came from two primary sources: (a) The 'surprises' came five to ten seconds later than you expected them, and (b) the musical cues were very, very loud. Basically, the entire movie could be summarized by the standard "Scary Music, Scary Music, Scary Music, Fake-Out, Calm, Monster-And-Loud-Music " pattern that dominates the less-inspired films of this types.

      Blade II, on the other hand, had no pretension of being a scary movie; it was content to be a violent movie, or sometimes a gory movie. I found most of the fight scenes quite enjoyable, which is good seeing as there wasn't much else. But the point is, Blade II knows what it wants to be, and that gives it a huge leg-up over movies that don't have the guts to pick a genre or the skill to straddle several.

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    7. Re:My take by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      Doh, darnit, sorry. Forgot about sword fish. :)

      BladeII takes that entire bullet ducking scene to a new level though. :) I mean at first it LOOKS LIKE a direct rip off of The Matrix but then they go compleatly original with it. :)

      Yah, that Swordfish scene was, besides being about the only good reason to see the movie, a darn good example of senseless violence in slow motion. :)

    8. Re:My take by Transcendent · · Score: 1

      The alternate ending on the DVD is the biggest laugh i've ever had... especially when you can see the fine line that cuts off his upper body within all the horrible looking blood. Yes, the ending that they went with was better, but the blood effect when his arm got chopped off looked still too fake for me, and that fact that when "the blood god" blew up (which they could have made look better also), blade didn't get any blood on him.... at all....

    9. Re:My take by abolith · · Score: 1

      I liked the fact that added a bit of humor to the movie. "you're Human. no not really i'm a lawyer" THAT had the whole theatre laughing.

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    10. Re:My take by abolith · · Score: 1

      I have to say that slow-mo bullet dodging is NOT the end all. I mean it looked damn ass cool when whistler grabbed that G41 and cut lose at one of the Bloodpack. all the pack member did was a bit of fast action breakdancing and all the rounds missed. that was pretty f---ing cool, because it showed that the movie didn't need to depend on the FX from other movies, instead to could develope it's own twists on things.
      on a side note I noticed that "Romeo Must Die" used a pretty cool x-ray thing to get in some good FX in the fight scenes, even if the rest of the movie sucked. just goes to show that FX do not make the movie. the movie as a whole makes it or breaks it, and I think that Blade II makes it in it's own interesting style.

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    11. Re:My take by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      I found RE scary because it HAD NO background scary music. Most movies you can tell exactly when something is going to jump out at you because there is this huge obvious buildup in the music. RE just had water dripping or other such ambience at times in its scary places.

      I am the wacko who dreamed at age 12 or so of going around with Freddy Kruger and chopping people up with him, trust me, it is VERY RARE that I find a movie scary at all.

      (and WTF is up with Steven King? NOTHING he writes / directs is scary. Funny at times, but not scary.)

    12. Re:My take by morcheeba · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly about RE. These were just cheap shots and, while they made me jump, were more annoying than scary. If you listen to the foley, you laugh! People wearing noisy leather sneak up on people, and for no reason touch them. What's up with that!? And then there are other things.. like when milla goes to open a grate -- thee is a horrific noise when she thrusts her hand through the grate that scares you. What kind of scare is that? "The lead character opens a door!!!" Surely they could have thought of something better. And then, when she opens the grate, it's a lot quieter than when reached her hand through it. duh.

    13. Re:My take by Saeger · · Score: 2
      I know what ya mean - I don't get scared easily either.

      I can remember a few specific movies that still get my heart pounding though:

      • Prophecy - Even though I grew up in the "woods", it scares me at night - throw in a giant man-eating mutant bear and I shit a brick.
      • Alien - but not the sequels.
      • Halloween - but not the sequels.
      • Jeepers Creepers - A lightweight scare... but it's a recent movie at least.

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    14. Re:My take by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Oh yeah, I knew I forgot one, it just came to me - Slaughter High.

      Old abandoned buildings creep me out.

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    15. Re:My take by FlameSnyper · · Score: 1

      Wow.

      I thought Romeo must die would have been a decent movie _without_ the cheezy X-Ray effects.

      Like Jet Li needs crappy effects to sell the fact that he's a bad-ass!

  12. Beavers!!! by DeMorganLaw · · Score: 4, Funny

    They were like beavers! The new strain of vampires lived underwater in a damn made from bones. Did the people working on the script have writers block and decide, "Hey lets make them like beavers".

    1. Re:Beavers!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beavers? I didn't see any beavers in this movie. And you know, there is something fundamentally wrong with that. ;-)

    2. Re:Beavers!!! by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, he did say that there were a lot of Canadian sci-fi writers on break from Andromeda (Herc in Space!). National animal, don't ya know! :^)

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    3. Re:Beavers!!! by gspeare · · Score: 1

      It was...Vampire Beavers!

      Up from the dams, up from the mud...
      Something furry out for blood...

  13. Nobody goes to see this type of movie for depth by Vicegrip · · Score: 2

    My verdict:
    A movie with entertaining fight scenes and some funny lines. The plot: Snipes beats up and kills all his enemies (I bet you weren't expecting that).

    If you are squeamish you may not like it. It's definitely more gruesome than the first movie.

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    1. Re:Nobody goes to see this type of movie for depth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Yes, of course, but does anybody goes to see any other type of movie these days ? Or can anyone see another type of movie ?

      That is the main problem I think. People can't stop saying "You have to see this movie", or "It's a summer flix kind of movie", or like some people said earlier.
      And the mantra does its job really well, so that in the end, every one see the movie, and push productors do repeat the same scenario for the next movie.

  14. Most Violent Film ever? by scyta1e · · Score: 0

    I'm not saying that it bothers me, but goddamn this movie is violent. I mean, the first one had a fight scene or two and people getting chopped with swords and heads exploding and such. But this movie may go down in history as one of the wildly violent films of all time. I realize that there are more graphic films of the zombie or japanese horror-porno type, but for those of you who have seen the film, I urge you to consider the sheer number of graphic maimings in this thing. How many times can you remember a close-up of someone getting a broken arm? The PTA is gonna love this baby.

    1. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by tetro · · Score: 1

      What about Star Wars? A whole planet was decimated. Anyone remember that asinine argument brought up sometime last year?

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    2. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's cartoon violence, almost exclusively. If Blade II got under your skin, I strongly suggest staying way the fuck clear of Fight Club and A Clockwork Orange.

    3. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by ttyRazor · · Score: 2

      Sorry, but most violent (or gory at least) goes to Brain Dead, aka Dead Alive here in the US.

    4. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by scyta1e · · Score: 1

      I was thinking about that one actually, my evaluation was based on sort of a combination of body count and graphic gore. I mean one of the only dialog scenes in this movies is over an autopsy.

    5. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by malign · · Score: 1

      Hm, I'd prolly say Bad Taste was the most violent movie I've seen.
      Also the funniest ;)

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    6. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by RottenDeadite · · Score: 1

      Correct. Directed by (guess who???) Peter Jackson of LOTR fame!

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    7. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but goddamn this movie is violent

      Not as violent as the MPAA raping American citizens with laws they passed using your dollars.

    8. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Decimated" means killing one in every ten. Try again, Pepe.

    9. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

      Hell yeah! One of my favourite flicks of all time. It's hard to believe he went on to make a little film known as Lord of The Rings.

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    10. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by renehollan · · Score: 2
      I vaguely remember a Ninja movie where over a hundred people die (one by one, or in pairs), before the opening credits end. It slows down a bit after hat, but not much.

      I don't remember the title, but it involves the Ninja's spirit taking over some 20ish woman (insert ObNudity scenes).

      I found it rather funny in a "yeah, right" sort of way.

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      You could've hired me.
    11. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Not as violent as the MPAA raping American citizens with laws they passed using your dollars.

      I saw the trailer for that. It looked pretty stupid, but I bet it'll make a lot of money anyway. I hear they're releasing it along with a new trailer for Episode 2! I'm saving up my popcorn money starting today!

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    12. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep that'd be the one. At least 80 zombies are ... mushed by our unaspiring hero with the common rotary lawnmower. Extraodinary scenes of zombie porn, a minister of god shreiking "I kick ass for the lord" before launching into battle, a true tour de force.

      I have no trouble understanding Peter Jackson's ascent to big time director, he is a master.

      PenGun

    13. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by damaoj · · Score: 1

      It's called Ninja III: The Domination

    14. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by Sri+Ramkrishna · · Score: 0

      If you want to see a violent film you should see hard-boiled. Jeez..there was so much shooting that I started feeling numb.

      sri

    15. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      It's funny that Hard Boiled was mentioned in the review - that was the most violent film I'd ever seen when I came across it. Might still be, it was banned in Sweden and Finland.

    16. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by fredrik70 · · Score: 1

      Brain Dead?? not bad, but the best Peter Jackson movie off all time must be Bad Taste, starring Mr Jackson himself, loosing abit of his brain and replacing it with alien brain instead... oh what a movie

      Funny thing about Brain Dead, went completely uncut through the censors in Swededn when it came out since they though it was so cartoonish and cheeky

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    17. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG, I thought I was the only one who has ever seen that movie. It was so stupid (but in a good way =).

      WTF is up with that part when they blow up a cow with a rocket launcher for no reason?

    18. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by fredrik70 · · Score: 1

      yeah, just the idea: Aliens land on earth to start a fast food franchise serving human flesh and brain... remember that 'milk-shake'??? :-)
      Only one thing I feel bad about, all the killed seagulls on which p. jackson lands after falling of the cliff... poor little creatures...*grin*

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    19. Re:Most Violent Film ever? by ttyRazor · · Score: 1

      Peter tries to have at least a cameo in each of his movies. He had a cameo in Brain Dead, as the coroner's assistant, and was one of the people in the Prancing Pony in FotR.

      Yes, Bad Taste was pretty awesome (sheep + rocket launcher should have won an Oscar) but by sheer body count I think Brain dead has it beat IMHO. Been a while since I've seen both of them so I could be mistaken.

      Unfortunately here in the states its hard to find a completely uncut version. The DVD they released is closer than previous versions, but is still shorter by 3 minutes than the complete version.

  15. Okay, that article title made me laugh. by AFCArchvile · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm suddenly having mental images of breakdancers in front of a man writing a $50,000 check (warning: my memory is fuzzy).

    I'm not going to watch this for the storyline (that's why I'm reading Catch-22 and The Grapes of Wrath right now). This movie is pure action. Personally, I'm sick of all the schlock appearing on the silver screen lately: nauseating horror-dramas, "historical" movies with an emphasis on artistic license and a lack of fact checking (just how did your character get to London from Grand Central, Ben?), and asinine comedies catering to the lowest common denominator.

    Thank you, Blade II, for breaking the trend. I shall spend my $9.50 (or hopefully less; I can see a matinee if I want) to watch you on the silver screen as I should have the original.

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    1. Re:Okay, that article title made me laugh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How? Eletric Boogaloo is so unoriginal. I hear people using it all the time for the second sequal for any movie. I've also hear Blade 3: Electric Boogalee... or something

    2. Re:Okay, that article title made me laugh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >I'm not going to watch this for the storyline
      >(that's why I'm reading Catch-22 and The Grapes > of Wrath right now).

      Steinbeck was a hack and Yossarian died in a Brazilian whore house.

      Blade 2 had more originality and imagination to it than Heller and Steinbeck could ever muster at a taco stand in Tijuana.

      The poetry of the imagination that exists at the center of this movie will forever make it a cut above the rest.

    3. Re:Okay, that article title made me laugh. by jgerman · · Score: 2
      and asinine comedies catering to the lowest common denominator.

      Thank you, Blade II


      As opposed to asinine action movies appealing to the lowest common denominator?

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  16. Heh, not all the science was bad. by Jonathan · · Score: 3, Informative

    I particularly liked the fact that the vampire virus wasn't just referred to as a virus, but an arbovirus, an actual viral group that includes the agents of yellow fever and dengue. Somebody actually must have cracked open a virology textbook! Then again, arboviruses are transmitted by insects, a fact that wasn't used at all in the movie, so maybe they just liked the name.

    1. Re:Heh, not all the science was bad. by nhavar · · Score: 2

      It should also be noted that although insects are the primary facilitator of an arbovirus it is blood born. It's thought that misquitos initially receive the virus from already infected carriers such as birds and then transmit the virus up and down the food chain. Human encroachment into previously unsettled areas is putting arbovirus group into an increasing area of risk.

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    2. Re:Heh, not all the science was bad. by rillian · · Score: 2

      The original Blade featured a magic vampire-killing serum called EDTA, which is about equally cute.

      Ethylendiaminetetracetic acid is a real chemical commonly used in molecular biology. It's a calcium chelator, meaning it globs onto calcium ions in solution and prevents them from reacting with anything. Calcium ions are how heart (and other muscle) contractions are propagated, so you can see the connection...but not as far as it looking like blue food coloring and making vampires swell up and explode. :-)

    3. Re:Heh, not all the science was bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, they did go over that when she was examining the one they "captured". She noted that the virus entered the host through the "tongue" when it punctured the victim's skin. That's pretty much how a virus is transmitted by say... a mosquito. They just poke you and in it goes, directly into your bloodstream while they're trying to take your blood. Same thing here. They're feeding off the victim's blood, so you'd think that the small spikes on the tongue would be where the virus transfers to the human bloodstream.

      All in all, the movie made a lot of sense, as far as VAMPIRES go. I mean, come on, vampires aren't known to be real, why should the rest of the movie? It's based on a comic book for cryin out loud.

      Personally, I think the author of this review has a HUGE stick up their ass.

    4. Re:Heh, not all the science was bad. by Vladinator · · Score: 1

      More importantly, it's the most common anti-coagulant used in the medical laboratory. Ever see a purple top tube? Guess what - that has EDTA in it.

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    5. Re:Heh, not all the science was bad. by ClickNMix · · Score: 1
      Then again, arboviruses are transmitted by insects, a fact that wasn't used at all in the movie,

      Insect = Little bloodsucking beast.
      Vampire = Big bloodsucking beast.

      So, you could argue the point... But after reading the reviews so far, I wouldn't like to say that for certain.

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    6. Re:Heh, not all the science was bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi Vlad.

      I'm posting this here for posterity.

      Might be interesting to you.

      --A friend who's really fucking sick of that spammer

  17. Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by Deltan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who honestly went to this movie to look for a storyline comparable to Lord of the Rings? Like come on, you went into it expecting WAY too much.

    It's based on a comicbook, every comicbook movie sequel has been cheese. Why would you expect any different of Blade II? Did anyone else notice the appearance of Danny John Jules aka "The Cat" from Red Dwarf? He probably just used his same cat teeth from Red Dwarf heh. Anyway, the movie is meant to be entertainment just like the WWF and that's all it is plain & simple. The fight scenes were well done, it had some gore, some corny lines and a chick in leather.

    It was entertaining, all in all an okay show to see. =)

    1. Re:Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by NanoGator · · Score: 2

      "Did anyone else notice the appearance of Danny John Jules aka "The Cat" from Red Dwarf?"

      That's about the only interest I have in seeing it. I almost saw Tomb Raider because Chris Barrie (Rimmer from Red Dwarf..) was in it. Fortunately Slashdot turned me away from both these movies.

      The $14 I saved on that really should go towards the subscription. :)

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    2. Re:Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lord of the Rings. Right. Because its 'lets-take-a-classic-to-hollywood-and-strip-it-of- everything-but-action-so-people-who-never-read-wil l-think-its-cool' 'storyline' was oh-so amazing?

      Most modern-day action is the equivalent to porn. Stimulating scenes tied together with weak plot. Maybe the popularity of such things is a metaphore for society today.

      Hey... I never said I didnt like porn.

    3. Re:Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by sinserve · · Score: 2, Informative

      I started dating this girl, just because she works at a movie theatre.

      Before, I used to befriend the ticket boys, and try to get to know them
      better, so they let me in when I want.
      But one of them was caught one day by an undercover security guy, and he
      never let me in again.

      My new girlfriend gets a free admission every weeked, and she can bring one
      other person.

      The only catch is, they don't allow us to see new movies. For example, we
      only saw LoTR last thursday (and I didn't like it.)
      But it is always free. Just buy your soda from a neighboring fast-food chain
      (it is cheaper there) and thank AMC for being good to me and my girl.

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    4. Re:Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by Adhoc · · Score: 1

      Actually I would go to see Blade II expecting exactly the kind of story we got from LOTR (the movie). Cheesy, discontiguous, lots of alpha male grandstanding, cool cinematography and some good fight scenes (hopefully none as bad as that Gandalf v. Saruman travesty).

      The fact that so many people loved LOTR(the movie), shows how much ya'll have had your standards lowered by the Hollywood movie industry.

      Man, how did I get so cranky? :) Time for sleep.

    5. Re:Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

      I haven't seen LOTR and don't plan on seeing it. The moment I heard that it was even being made, I knew it would be typical Hollywood crap. And the opinions I've heard have only reinforced my early guesses. Hollywood has far too many guys in white suits and sunglasses who like to say "Baby!" a lot.

    6. Re:Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by Grab · · Score: 2

      Gandalf v. Saruman is the most original magic fight scene I've seen - would you prefer the cliched streams of light and shouting "by the power of Grayskull" or something? then watch D&D. LotR had Gandalf and Saruman using magic basically as a physical weapon to hurt each other (punch/kick/throw kind of effects) - different to what you expect, but there's nothing wrong with that.

      LOTR is the first time in ages that I've seen fight scenes where the characters actually seem to be taking punishment - I can't think of a single film since Rocky 2 where the winner of a fight comes away with any damage, but Gandalf and Saruman both take punishment in their fight, and Aragorn comes away from the fight with the orc leader pretty beat up and staggering (obviously Boromir gets killed, but then we knew that was going to happen from the book). It's about being subtle and applying some realism, not about being flashy.

      A good special effect should be seamless - the "Trinity freezes in mid-air" kind of shot may look nice but has no place in the film (the bullet-time effects OTOH are plot-related and _do_ belong). If it jumps up and down and screams "I'm an expensive computer-generated effect, look at me!!!!" then all it indicates is that the director is an immature wanker. The best application of SFX I've seen in years is the Star Wars re-edits, with stuff like windows added in the corridors in Bespin to see the world outside - that's so seamless you'd never notice unless you saw the originals, but it adds depth to the shots and makes it a better film.

      Grab.

    7. Re:Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by Adhoc · · Score: 1

      First, different != good. Maybe it was original. Aside from the fact that the fight is a fabrication (doesn't occur in the book), it just didn't seem true to the characters (obviously a subjective opinion). Gandalf is the frickin wielder of the secret flame (or something), where's the fire?

      You want to see people take damage, watch Fight Club.

      Aside from the GvS fight, I liked most of the action scenes in the movie. I just didn't like them setting up super orc, so Aragorn would have someone to have a climactic fight with. A fight is fine, but not every movie needs to end with Clash of Titans, especially since there is plenty of action to come.

    8. Re:Wow aren't you Mr.Negative by Fjord · · Score: 1

      The thing I liked about Die Hard was how Bruce Willis's character took damage. Of course, it was kind of important to the plot so that he could appear at the end all bloody and swollen and limping with nothing to lose. But it worked so well.

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  18. I was lucky by quantax · · Score: 1

    I actually downloaded this movie since I highly doubted it was going to be worth $10 price tag. I turned it on and watch it with a friend of mine, and just watched the suckage happen before our eyes. The intro was lame, foreshadowing the rest of the movie. Once you see that they actually brought Whistler back, at that point I questioned whether the writer had even seen the original movie. Due to the ambigously-gay squadron of 'badasses' a lot of the fight scenes just seemed to be cheesy as all hell. Oh, and the second half of the movie was busted due to a corrupted vcd, but to tell you the truth, I didn't care all that much. Perhaps I am being judgemental, only having seen the first half of the movie, but somehow I doubt all of a sudden the movie would kickass. I'm still wondering how they managed to screw this up. Anyone?

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    1. Re:I was lucky by Phase+Shifter · · Score: 1

      Once you see that they actually brought Whistler back, at that point I questioned whether the writer had even seen the original movie.

      It's my understanding that the original version of the first movie ended with a scene where Blade ran into Whistler, who was now a vampire. This scene was cut in the version that appeared in theaters, but IIRC it's on the DVD, or at least mentioned in the director's commentary.

    2. Re:I was lucky by zab_13 · · Score: 1

      How they screwed it up? You said that you knew it was going to suck. Why? Did the first one suck? If so, why were you "wondering how they managed to screw this up"? How did they manage to screw up the sequel to a bad movie? You don't make any sense. Or did you just post to tell everyone that you downloaded it. That's what I thought.

  19. Re:Slashdot is lame! by NanoGator · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Yet you're posting here...

    Who's the lamier. The lame or the lame who posts?

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  20. Blade was much better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really didn't like this film as much as the first one. It was still something I am content with spending $8 on. However, it just wasn't as good, and left me disappointed.

  21. BEST MOVIE EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why do people ALWAYS base movie quality on plot, character development, love, and all that other crap? How can you honestly say you didn't stand up wooting like a monkey every time Blade did something awesome? I know I didn't, but it sure pumped me up enough to smile continuously for 5 days.

    I for one think, nay, KNOW Blade 2 is the best movie ever. It was just 2 hours of non-stop killing vampires. Like remember the scene when Blade did that totally radical thing with his weapon before killing the vamps? Oh wait, that was EVERY time he killed something. Blade was so badass it wasn't even FUNNY. What was funny is how much he 0wned all the vamps. Also, they didn't squander precious movie time on "romance". THis is truely a movie for guys. They spent merely 2 minutes total on just establishing the fact that Blade and that vampire girl were kind of attracted to each other. They left it at that and let Blade get back to shooting, stabbing, and flipping.

    Finally, if you want to get technical about movie science, why not bring up the fact that Blade can't exist in the first place? If vampires evolved from Humans, wouldn't that make them different species? How would a vampire male mate with a human female and produce offspring? I dunno, maybe Blade is sterile. Whatever.

    I'm gonna go see it again.

    1. Re:BEST MOVIE EVER by Prower · · Score: 0

      I was wondering why you didn't do the review yourself this time Katz, glad to see you're back again ;P

    2. Re:BEST MOVIE EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who is Katz? I'm not Katz. I'm the author of the post "BEST MOVIE EVER", but I don't know this elusive "Katz" of whom you speak.

    3. Re:BEST MOVIE EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blade's mother was pregnant, VERY pregnant, assumedly from a normal relationship with a non-vampire father, when she was bitten by a vampire. She was rushed to the hospital, where she un-died in labor. The vampire VIRUS was passed on to her unborn son, who survived where she didn't. Hence, Blade is half-vampire. Get with the program ;) Didn't you see Blade I?

    4. Re:BEST MOVIE EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How would a vampire male mate with a human female and produce offspring?"

      Who said they did/had to? If I remember correctly, Blade's mother was bitten by a vampire when she was CARRYING him, therefore exposing him to the virus. So it is a disease, the vampire and the human didn't do the deed. Tip: Next time you want to talk about story inconsistencies, READ THE FRIGGIN' STORY AGAIN!

    5. Re:BEST MOVIE EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm no mammal expert, but it's possible to make a hybrid species. For example, breeding a male Burmese Python with a Reticulated Python-- it's been done. And the offspring are fertile. Well, the first clutch of eggs of the original hybrid creature have a very low fertility rate, but after several clutches they're fine. And the second-generation hybrids are just as healthy as any other snake. So uhm.. theoritically, vampires evolving from humans is quite possible. Yep.

    6. Re:BEST MOVIE EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would I want to watch a hunk of shit like Blade or Blade II when I can just rent "From Dusk Till Dawn?" Way better.

    7. Re:BEST MOVIE EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know whether I should be horrified by this idiot or simply pity him like the poor acne-scarred teen reject he obviously is. Yes, you poor, dear child, I can imagine you "wooting like a monkey" every time Blade did something cool.

      And plot? Who needs plot? Or romance, or characterization, or even characters? Apparently this poor sap is content with Wesley Snipes flexing his muscles in cool poses while fan-boy butters his own popcorn, so to speak. Oh, and woots like a monkey.

      My advice? Run, don't walk, to Hollywood. While should movie companies create fake critics to "review" their movie when dumbasses like this guy will work for free?

  22. I liked it by Com2Kid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I liked it.

    Decent use of surround sound in what was not even a THX theater (rare!).

    I thought that the story was pretty good too, nothing revolutionary, but it got the point done (reason to go around beating the sh*t out of things.)

    Not as many things were killed in Blade II as in the original Blade, but it defintly made me keep on saying to myself "Man they hired one hell of a fight scene choragrapher."

    Did some scenes of the fights (specificaly the parts up in the air) seems almost like they used clay animation or something? No I am serious, it almost looks like free form computer deformation based animation effects of some sort. In other words, very 'clay' like. During one scene the characters even took on a distiguishable NON-REAL apperance. I am VERY surprised that that scene made it past QA in its current form. :(

    1. Re:I liked it by Tack · · Score: 2
      Did some scenes of the fights (specificaly the parts up in the air) seems almost like they used clay animation or something?

      You didn't imagine that. It was in the fight scene between a masked Nyssa (who is quite hot) and Blade near the beginning. The camera took a wide angle and two near-silhouettes were fighting against the vampire-repelling lights in the background. If it was even CG, it was pretty horribly done. Me and my friends let out a groan when we saw that, and I, like you, wonder how in the hell it made it into the final cut.

      Jason.

    2. Re:I liked it by Vajramukti · · Score: 2
      it defintly made me keep on saying to myself "Man they hired one hell of a fight scene choragrapher."

      This has to be the one reason I currently have to see this movie. It was choreographed by Donnie Yen, son of Chinese wushu master Bow Sim Mark.
    3. Re:I liked it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean, they actually make it look like a comic book? Who'd have thought...

      Anyway, the first fight scene of the movie was liked it was ripped from Marvel pages. The way Wesley Snipes took up 60% of the screen, and the perspectives that made him look 8 feet tall..

    4. Re:I liked it by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      Ahh, amen. I am not alone! :)

      Having taken some (not to mention failed. ^_^ ) base low level video production courses I was marginaly trained to spot even the slighest bit of CG in video, and that scene stuck out like a sore thumb. I think I could have spotted it if I was blind in one eye.

      Oh wait a minute, I AM blind in one eye!

      :D

      Annnyways. A few other times in the movie a simular effect happened, but not ever NEARLY so much.

      My guess is that some dip-stick used direct mesh deformation and forgot to include a friggin skeleton framework on the characters. . . . That is about the ONLY explanation that I can think of for the entire clay look.

      Though if they could get that down pat it could make for an interesting new field of CG. :) I mean it DID look awfuly darn close to Claymation! ;D

    5. Re:I liked it by Kintanon · · Score: 2

      Sorry guys, but as much as you may dislike that particular scene the blurred imagery is intentional. If you flip through some vampire gaming stuff you'll find an ability called Celerity which vampires use to move faster than humans. The blurring effect from the CGI in that was supposed to be indicitive of the fact that the characters were moving faster than the human eye could follow without blurring the fightscene into an unviewable mess. I thought it was very well done and reflected the comic book style of the movie.

      Kintanon

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    6. Re:I liked it by Com2Kid · · Score: 1

      I have seen super fast movements being represented by blurs before, and I must say, that stretching the living shnitz out of a characters body does NOT count as bluring, nor does f'ing up the colors on the character.

      At times the characters were perfectly focused but they still looked like crud. :(

    7. Re:I liked it by hyoo · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure if you noticed, but some of the fight scenes were sped up. At points it looked good, and at other points it made the character movements look weird and unnatural (which is probably what you saw).

      I don't think that they sped up any fight scenes in the the first Blade, but there was a cheezy driving shot where blades car appeared to be going 100+ Km/h when it was probably filmed at 10 Km/h.

    8. Re:I liked it by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Just like the mustang running from the police helicopter in "Gone in 60 seconds" that was filmed at like 50MPH or so and played back at double speed, eh?

  23. Sunlight by aridhol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What I want to know is why the BloodPack is afraid of sunlight. I mean, why didn't they get the same sunscreen that Deacon Frost used in the first one? This time, the sun burned right through the guy's leather glove!

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    1. Re:Sunlight by tetro · · Score: 2, Funny

      must have been pleather

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      .smell my feet.
    2. Re:Sunlight by Iguru42 · · Score: 1

      OMG. I totally forgot about that Deacon Frost thing with the sunlight! That is too funny. I saw Blade II at the 11 am showing on opening day. I really enjoyed it.

    3. Re:Sunlight by jgerman · · Score: 2

      Maybe he made his leather gloves from vampire hide, not too bright eh?

      --
      I'm the big fish in the big pond bitch.
  24. And they're hyping it in my country... by mfarah · · Score: 1

    ... because one of the secondary actresses is Leonor Varela, Chilean.

    The TV news programs are hyping the movie because of that and that alone: "The chilean actress that's becoming a star in Hollywood!", "Leonor Varela stars among the great actor Wesley Snipes", and more hollow phrases like that.

    Unsurprisingly, other than stating this is a "horror" movie, they have mentioned pretty much nothing about the film itself.

    This proves once again what an unimportant remote little country Chile is... and the worst thing this happened less than four months ago, when _Driven_ (with Cristián De la fuente, another "great" chilean actor) was premiered in USA... fortunately, around here it was a total flop.

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  25. huh? oh, me? what, what? by digitalsushi · · Score: 1

    "Oh yeah. Nah, I didn't die. What, you didn't know that? The vampires got me. Jeez pay attention kid."

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  26. Hey, Fred... what's up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't fuck with the Nation!

  27. come on! at least there was a twist in the story! by dummkopf · · Score: 1

    you might say that the movie was somewhat inconsistent, but at least there was a twist in the story and not the standart hollywood crap where the bad ones wear black and the good ones white all the way to the end! in addition [warning: spoiler] the ending is not the usual hollywood romantica where the heroes live happy ever after at the end. finally: whoever goes to see blade II expecting an elaborate plot should be doomed to see the jason X trailer for 3 consecutive hours... blade II is what you watch a sunday afternoon (matinee -- it's not worth full price) when you need to relax from work.

  28. If they know that bullets won't work... by bman08 · · Score: 1

    Why do these monster slayers insist on lugging 15 tons of weapons and ammo into the sewers, and then use them to repetively, and innefectively, shoot the monsters?

    Many scenes looked like technology tests for spiderman special effects.

    The reapers anus-like heart is more than worth the price of admission. Now we can effectivly classify the goatse guy.

    1. Re:If they know that bullets won't work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, after seeing the long Spidey trailer, it seems to me like the effects will just be a re-hash of what was already done in Blade II. Sorry.

    2. Re:If they know that bullets won't work... by zillahX · · Score: 1

      ..because at least they could use the weapons to keep the reapers at bay. Better than wandering down into those sewers with nothing at all. Although, I wish they would have slathered Scud up with those pheromones and dropped him down a storm drain.

  29. Heh by ConTroll+Freak · · Score: 0

    Jason X10? Now I know why those popup ads wont die!

  30. try actually watching the movie by null_session · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ok first, the virus was covered in the first one, as you'll (oh wait, you didn't) recall, the hemotologist(sp?) discovered the cure in the first one. Second, Blade doesn't get the virus because he already has it. He isn't cured because he chooses not to be (also in the first one). Third, if you had watched this movie you would have realized that Whistler was in stasis because the Vampires were torturing him to the brink of death and healing him repeatedly. If you really want to go on about the movie, try commenting on things like light not going around corners. Or mention how he seems to kill vampires in lots of ways besides hitting the heart. The movie took some genuine liberties, but you missed them by a mile. Or, if you wanted to really talk about the movie, you could talk about the superb rendering of flame by the CG team, or the excellent graphics in general.

    You did make a good point about the money though... I sort of figured that Scud was helping him appropriate it myself.

    1. Re:try actually watching the movie by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      :) Just a few seconds before me :)

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      "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
    2. Re:try actually watching the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like Scud was supplying Blade with money from his "boss". ;)

    3. Re:try actually watching the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, lets see here, first of all, Blade did not get the virus because he was not bitten by the "reapers" and secondly, HE NEVER HAD THE VIRUS, it was not talked about in the first movie, the only thing that was talked about in the first movie was the vampire "virus." The "virus" that is talked about in this one is the one that causes all infected to become "reapers" (super-vamipres).

      Get your facts straight before you start telling others they are wrong.

    4. Re:try actually watching the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "try commenting on things like light not going around corners"

      I believe that only happened once, and it was because there were multiple light sources bouncing all over the place. I don't remember if they specifically stated there was a normal explosive in the center of that package, but it should have been at least implied.

      And the reason he can kill vampires in a bunch of different ways is because all his weapons are silver. They don't need to go into the heart in the Blade universe; never did.

      And yet, there still is a plot-hole... namely the light-proof suits the Bloodpack used in the beginning of the movie. I guess they only had two, eh? ;) Or did I miss the part where it was explained why they didn't use them later on? I guess the action scenes were so intense everyone's brain is getting jumbled so they can't remember much of the movie. :)

    5. Re:try actually watching the movie by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      Um, either way the "reviwer" did not make sense. It was never stated that the reaper virus is airborne. He was just trying to point out that no matter what the context, the crap about the virus was just wrong. Flat out, period, wrong.... And the reviewer seems about as qualified to review this movie as you are likely to understand this post. Not very.

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      "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
    6. Re:try actually watching the movie by jgerman · · Score: 2

      Genuine liberties? As if there were facts that they didn't stick to? This is a fantasy movie about make believe monsters. There are no facts to stick to, therefore no liberties to be taken. In the Blade universe the writers can have vampires capable of dying from whatever method they want.

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    7. Re:try actually watching the movie by Skeld · · Score: 1

      ok, ok, on the light going around the corners... The gas in the bomb in the box (still with me?), blew the chemicals in the little bombs (yknow, the lightup ones), all through the tunnels, and as the chemical reacted within the spreading gas, it produced light. The light didn't go around the corners, the GAS did, then the gas made light.

      I guess the chemicals they used in the balls works as an aresol... or something.

      Understand?

      I suggest that when you see something stupid in a movie, you cover your eyes and shout "SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF!! SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF!!" over and over until you can enjoy the movie again.

      -Skeld

    8. Re:try actually watching the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Most comic book characaters inhabit a (relatively) consistent universe. It's liberties being taken with adherence to that universe I would presume he's talking about.

    9. Re:try actually watching the movie by TheLink · · Score: 1

      A unicorn is a fantasy creature (for now). But most agree it's a horselike creature with a horn sticking out from near its nose.

      If a creature doesn't look like that (fantasy or otherwise) it's not a unicorn.

      If movie X is too inconsistent with movie Y, then you can't really call it a sequel.

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    10. Re:try actually watching the movie by jgerman · · Score: 2

      And there are hundreds of different versions vapires differing in almost every aspect. As far as movie consistency, Blade II wasn't even internally consistent, how could you ever expect it to be consistent with the original?

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    11. Re:try actually watching the movie by TheLink · · Score: 1

      You originally said: "There are no facts to stick to, therefore no liberties to be taken".

      I read that to mean that you implied that either the movie doesn't need to be consistent or consistency is not relevant. And so I disagreed.

      Cheerio,
      Link.

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  31. Pay Attention Next Time. by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

    Had the author of this "review" payed attention they'd know that the reason why Whistler was in that chamber was because they would periodically toture him and harvest his blood, then put him back in there to let him heal before doing it again. I don't think they should let people like chrisd into movie theaters. Because a movie is not generally what they are looking for. They want something that presents the holy impossible with unimpeachable evidence that it can be done. They want something that is so utterly believable, but they want it to be about something unbelievable. They don't bother to waste their time relaxing and, god forbid, enjoying the movie. They sit there on the edge of their seat waiting for the next thing they can't point out as incorrect. I dunno where you got that the virus was "airborne", but had you spent more time actually watching the movie and less time typing up your review in your head you might have had a better time.

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    "The saddest words of mice and men, are not those which were, but should have been."
  32. also, i liked it when by digitalsushi · · Score: 2, Funny

    i liked it when BLADE turned into that cartoon fighter, when he was fighting the two cyborg vampires, and he did MAD FLIPS and A FULL OLLIE off a TELEVISION. Then he BUSTED some HEADS with the POWER OF THE SUN. Blade is the all american hero, he's like a half dead GI JOE with better gear than BATMAN and cooler sunglasses than the freakin TERMINATOR. If I were BLADE I would open my own diner and call it Blade's Diner and I wouldn't serve vampires, either.

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    1. Re:also, i liked it when by TyZone · · Score: 1
      If I were BLADE I would open my own diner and call it Blade's Diner and I wouldn't serve vampires, either.

      Dang. I was hoping you'd serve vampires.

      I like mine fried.

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      TyZone
    2. Re:also, i liked it when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're the man. Just for that thing about the diner. You are the man.

  33. What did you really expect... by NOT-2-QUICK · · Score: 2

    From the review:

    "The science in this movie, by the way, is insultingly bad, and exceptionally inconsistent. It seems to me if you are going to offer some kind of crappy vampire virus you might as well make it somewhat consistent. It's airborne! It's blood borne! It turns out it's script borne, infecting those who it's convienient to infect and missing, strangely, Blade and his pals."

    So exactly what is that you expected from this...a REALISTIC Vampire movie!!! Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron???

    I am all for realism in film, but to complain about the "science" in a movie whose plot revolves around vampires, even for a self-respecting geek such as myself, may be a bit much!!! :-)

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    1. Re:What did you really expect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...good point...in addition, do you really expect /. staffers to know what they are doing....that's the problem here. Our expectations for anything more than drivel are way too high.

    2. Re:What did you really expect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The producer/director/scriptwriter put the "science" into the horror movie where it didn't belong, not the slashdot reviewer. Give him a break.

      The movie was very inconsistent. Overall I sort of enjoyed it, but the "science" problems bothered me as well.

      They've already established that guns have no effect on these super-vamps. Why then do they bring an arsenal that would put an Isreali to shame?

      The little balls of sunlight were also ridiculous.

  34. Noooooo, FIF by }InFuZeD{ · · Score: 1

    Five Iron Frenzy is the only true Electric Boogaloo.

    What would you rather have? One of the last remaining ska bands stealing the name or chrisd? =)

    1. Re:Noooooo, FIF by Grahf · · Score: 1

      Hmmm . . . shitty Christian ska band or chrisd?

      Theoretically, chrisd can fetch more money in a free market, thusly easily winning enough money in the dance competition to save my entire tribe! Yay! chrisd is acquitted!

  35. Plot? Plot? We don't need no steeenking plot! by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2

    Don't worry, no spoilers in this review. (Not that there CAN be any spoilers for this movie, but perhaps that is a spoiler in and of itself.)

    I saw Blade 2 on Sunday, and normally I cringe at plotless movies. In some ways Blade 2 has more of a plot than the first movie.

    Are there plot holes? Oh sure, you can drive a few trucks through most of them.

    However, I found myself not caring a whit.

    If you want to see a pure unmitigated action fest, Blade 2 is it.

    Personally I loved the movie because I have studied Martial Arts for 11 years, and I loved seeing some techniques that I have not seen in movies before. (Mostly the Cheung Style Wing Chun - Specifically the Biu Gee techniques Snipes uses.)

    However, the movie is so campy that when the fight scenes start to incorporate WWF moves (no really, I am not joking!) instead of groaning I found myself howling with laughter.

    If you go to see it, go to see it for pointless action, and no other reason. (Unless you would like to see Danny John-Jules, The "Cat" from Red Dwarf in a new role.)

    This is not a "plot" movie.

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    1. Re:Plot? Plot? We don't need no steeenking plot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, I thought Snipes studied Capoiera (Brazilian street fighting a la Eddy Gordo in Tekken)

    2. Re:Plot? Plot? We don't need no steeenking plot! by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Funny, I thought Snipes studied Capoiera (Brazilian street fighting a la Eddy Gordo in Tekken)
      I believe you are correct. However the moves he is coreographed using are from various styles in all his movies. I have seen him use Kenpo techniques and Tae Kwon Do as well.

      The thing is, in a movie an actor rarely sticks to one individual style (unless you are someone like Segal).

      Snipes was not exclusively using the Cheung Wing Chun style (there was much in there that was not from that style, like the WWF moves...) but this is the first place I have seen so much of it. The fight scene after he gets out of the pool of blood has the most Wing Chun (the bear hug defense/takedown) and he uses some Biu Gee eye jabs in a very apparent Wing Chun form in this scene, as well as various basic Wing Chun techniques (applicable to all Wing Chun styles, not just Cheungs) and probably common to many other styles as well.

      (And if you want to get picky the way the "Ninjas" used the swords, and Blade used his sword is more of a Chinese Wushu style more applicable to a "Dan Dao" Chinese sword. And not a katana (Japanese) style weapon. Those who practice Kendo or Iado probably cringe at those scenes.)

      Still, none of this matters. It looked cool, and there were some real techniques in there that I noticed. Things that really work in the real world. Sure, most of the stuff was the "flowery" stuff. But every now and then there was a "gritty" no-nonsense technique that is simple and effective. The combination of all that really made me enjoy the film overall.

      Bottom line, if you are a martial artist, you will probably enjoy the fight scenes. (Just remember that you are supposed to laugh at the really silly stuff.)

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    3. Re:Plot? Plot? We don't need no steeenking plot! by ignorant_newbie · · Score: 1
      The thing is, in a movie an actor rarely sticks to one individual style (unless you are someone like Segal).


      which is funny, 'cause i've only seen Segal do 1 aikido move in any of his movies. (the one with DMX). and before you flame me, yes, i am somewhat qualified to comment on this.
    4. Re:Plot? Plot? We don't need no steeenking plot! by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 1

      No, not going to flame you for that. He does use the same techniques consistently. Then again, that is what a particular style is about. I would say he used more in his earlier movies, but then I stopped watching his later ones.

      But then I am not qualified to comment on Aikido as I have 2 friends who study it, but I do not study it myself.

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    5. Re:Plot? Plot? We don't need no steeenking plot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I myself am an afficianado of the shaken_ballz bungee style of winged_phoot kung foo.
      There is nothing like useless KUNG FOOEY techniques and weapons kata to bring MA to a new low.
      Try full contact TKD or the ultimate fighting style competitions and come down off the pansy wagon.

    6. Re:Plot? Plot? We don't need no steeenking plot! by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2

      I myself am an afficianado of the shaken_ballz bungee style of winged_phoot kung foo.
      There is nothing like useless KUNG FOOEY techniques and weapons kata to bring MA to a new low.
      Try full contact TKD or the ultimate fighting style competitions and come down off the pansy wagon.


      Nice attempt at a troll. I will give you that, you managed to elicit a response.

      However, many of the people at our martial arts school have studied with people such as Danny Inosanto, and Frank Shamrock. (You may have heard of these people.)

      And some of our students have already won full contact TKD matches.

      Please study the martial arts more deeply grasshopper, you still have much to learn.

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  36. Go see this for one reason by tutal · · Score: 1

    No not for the movie, not even to see the corny JasonX trailer... but it is the Star Wars Trailer (which I assume has been in other movies, yet I have not seen it in any others).

    1. Re:Go see this for one reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One more reason: you pay the MPAA to distract you while they pump more bribe money into congress! Yee-hah!

    2. Re:Go see this for one reason by tutal · · Score: 1

      Luckily my roommate works at a theatre so I spend all of $1 to go see movies :-p

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  37. A huge improvement over the original by Tenken · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Instead of nitpicking my numerous problems with this review, I would just like to point out how much Blade 2 has improved over the original.

    Now I don't deny some of the original's fight scenes were done with style, but the choreography was horrible. And remember that CG blood from the end? Possibly the worst CG in a modern movie.

    Blade 2's choreography was scripted by Donnie Yen (Iron Monkey), who also had a (small) role in the film as one of the Bloodpack members, the Snowman. Now while Yen didn't have much chance to shine on the screen, his influence is felt throughout the entire movie. Rather than the stiff fight scenes from the first movie, Blade 2 is never satisfied with just wowing the viewer, it instead wants to kick the viewers ass.

    The worst fight scene in Blade 2 (after he climbs out of the pool of blood) exposes all of the problems with the original. The enemies seem to grab a ticket and attack Blade in order, while he picks them off one by one with wrestling style moves. Atleast those camera angles from under the glass floor were cool...

    The entire movie is basically one long drawn out fight scene, and while this may hurt the story, it remains true to the comic book origins. We didn't need a lengthy prologue about Blade's origins, or his history with Whistler, if you want that go see the first film. Just like Terminator 2, Blade 2 uses the exposition of the first film to make itself a more visceral experience.

  38. But the original by The+Cat · · Score: 2

    The original Blade was the essence of cool. By the time they got to the hospital and the cops tried to arrest him, it was on the all-time list.

    [Cops fire, bullets bounce off]

    "Are you out of your #%&@$ mind?!?!?"

    [Cops run]

    ROFL!

    There were some genuinely great scenes in the first movie. The "he moved" line when they fry the fat vampire, the music starting when Blade catches the sunglasses at the end, the sword flourish in the final battle, Whistler's "catch you fellas at a bad time?" the car (any movie with a big block engine anywhere in it automatically gets a minimum of 5 on the 10 scale), etc.

    Just a really cool movie. I might just go see the sequel. If Ebert liked it, it can't be all bad, right?

    1. Re:But the original by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the line was

      Mutha F**ker, You Carzy?!

      Also, you forgot perhaps the best line in the whole move, when Frost thinks he's caught Blade in the vamp's library, and Wistler bursts in with a huge explosion and a machine gun and says:

      I catch you f**kers at a bad time?

      pricless.

  39. Jason XI: Jason goes on a diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man from the picts that guy is chunky! I don't remember Jason being that chunky in Friday the 13th 1-5.

    Although, I just had a thought, imagine Jason at the Emmy's, I can see a tux on him....after he losses a few pounds ;)

    1. Re:Jason XI: Jason goes on a diet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually... Jason X, the evil that got the upgrade, looks suited up to play on the Mighty Ducks team. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DUCKS!!!!

  40. Actually.. the plot was good..the fighting wasn't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He has it backwards. The plot was actually interesting and new to films. Watch T3 use the same formula, though. The fight scenes were pretty dull I thought, and the pack of vampires that fight with blade have no identities. The whole plot was laid out and awesome, but they instead used pretty gimmiky fight scenes to fill it in instead of expanding upon it.

  41. Its a comic... by infra-red · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I don't know what you were expecting, but heres something to give you some better perspective.

    Blade Bio

    This movie was a real action movie based on a comic book hero, nothing more nothing less. I personally found it to be quite entertaining, but I wasn't expecting something that would move my soul. If you want to pick on something to complain about, why not some of the "wrestling moves" used in a few of the fight scenes.

    I found the plot to be sufficient to move from one fight to the next. They make a decent effort to explain things like Whistler still being alive, and they had already established the nature of the virus in the first movie. It had more action then the Blade, but was exactly what I was expecting to see. I wasn't disappointed in it at all and intend on seeing it again with a friend.

  42. Quick summary of movie. by Restil · · Score: 2

    Quick narrative introduction.
    Lots of fighting.
    Blade meets the vampires and hooks up with the blood pack.
    Lots of fighting.
    Decend into the sewer.
    Lots of fighting and ultraviolet explosions.
    Betrayal
    Double Betrayal
    More fighting.
    Even more fighting.
    Collection of reaper fetus' get shot up.
    More fighting.
    All the bad guys die.
    Mildly (not) Touching end scene where the girl vaporizes in the morning light.
    Credits.

    I'm sorry if I spoiled the plot for anyone. That's just about all of it.

    -Restil

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    1. Re:Quick summary of movie. by J.+J.+Ramsey · · Score: 2

      "Lots of fighting and ultraviolet explosions"

      I gather you mean "ultraviolent explosions," although if the vampires blow up in a blaze of light, I guess "ultraviolet explosions" is appropriate.

      (Bad pun on a British miniseries (presumably) about vampires called "Ultraviolet.")

    2. Re:Quick summary of movie. by snkline · · Score: 1

      Nope he was right, it's an ultraviolet explosion. That UV Bomb toasted lots of Reapers. Amazingly it was powerful enough to turn light into some sort of flaming plasma that bends around corners too, but I'm not gonna get started on that...

    3. Re:Quick summary of movie. by cronio · · Score: 1

      No no, "ultraviolet explosions," because vampires explodes when they come into contact with UV rays.

      (It's actually slightly different than that, but I don't want to give away any spoilers.)

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    4. Re:Quick summary of movie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Amazingly it was powerful enough to turn light into some sort of flaming plasma that bends around corners too

      Doesn't that depend on what objects (including walls) were in the scene? The light rays could bounce off them at all kinds of crazy angles.. (too bad I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't visualize the scene you're talking about)

  43. The original Blade character, from comics by Seth+Finkelstein · · Score: 2
    Take a look at the original Blade from the series Tomb of Dracula by writer Marv Wolfman (yes, that really is his name)

    Someone should make a movie out of it someday ...

    Sig: What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org)

  44. My $0.02. by alfredw · · Score: 2

    The movie is... campy. There are lots of great one-liners and a ton of overacting.

    It's kind of the Matrix meets Evil Dead. If you're into cheesy, campy horror/action flicks (like I am) you'll love it!

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  45. And I forgot to mention Blades character... by Tenken · · Score: 1

    Snipes is much more comfortable in the role this time around. In the first movie, he was the typical cold hero. Director Guillermo del Toro actually allows Blade to smile in this movie!

    And despite the overemphasis on coolness factor (namely the shades), del Toro does a good thing by allowing us to see Blade without his shades. He hid behind them too much in the first movie...

    1. Re:And I forgot to mention Blades character... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's just a case of a bad script with a good movie. Same thing that happened with Alien 3, that David Fincher directed.
      The plot from the first one was most representative of the comic (mysterious, dark, etc.), while this one's execution was better. I'm hoping they make a Blade III and (god forbid) actually have one of the WRITERS from the comic actually write the script. Even a writer from the new Marvel MAX line would suffice.
      I hope they'd also improve upon the CGI. Dear god, the animation is horrible.

  46. Jason X? by Spencerian · · Score: 2

    So , if you really really really like playing Mortal Kombat-style fighting games, go see Blade II. Also, if you want to see the trailer for the upcoming Friday the 13th movie, Jason X, Jason in Space, go see Blade II. Yes, I'm serious, Jason X. 10! In Space! Starring lots of Canadian sci-fi actors on break from Andromeda!

    Jason X?

    Wow. Microsoft's been really busy on that new operating system. They showed we can fly with Windows XP, and now, with Jason X, we can fly, see blood spill, and die along with our computer systems.

    Neato. Hope it comes with some popcorn and a bladder-buster cola.

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    1. Re:Jason X? by (startx) · · Score: 1

      no, but with the new movie jason does get a spiffy new mask and armor. good thing too, that old hockey mask had taken quite a beating.

    2. Re:Jason X? by snkline · · Score: 1

      I absolutely shuddered when I saw that preview. The crap Hollywood puts out nowadays. Of course maybe it will kick ass. I've certainly seen trailers that were cool and then the movie sucked. But somehow I doubt it.

    3. Re:Jason X? by O.F.+Fascist · · Score: 1

      Jaxon X really sucked, I saw it a few months ago. Someone put up a link to grab it off of eDonkey, so i downloaded it, it was definately Cinemax material.

      Not something I would ever want to see on the big screen and pay for.

      If you want to check it out get eDonkey at www.edonkey2000.com and look around I'm sure you can find it.

  47. Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean we can stop boycotting the MPAA! Hooray!

    Get ready, Jack Valenti, because once again, we're about to line your pockets with SWEET SWEET CASH!

  48. I got what I went for by dermusikman · · Score: 2

    "It's open season on all suck-heads."
    "Some mutha-fucka's always gotta ice skate uphill."

    Crappy, ultra-campy action-movie lines from the original - lines that *made* the movie.

    I went to Blade II to watch a bad ass kick ass and say corny lines. To have a plot-line would be superfluous. The dialogue was just space between fight scenes, as far as I'm concerned - and they interspersed it with humour!

    I got what I came for, plus. Honestly - the "BloodPack" just *screamed* Vampire the Masquerade campaign! complete with faux-political intrigue! honestly - we aren't *supposed* to take it seriously!

    If you want a lot of *wonderful* action, complete with bad-ass dialogue/one-liners, Blade II is the movie. It has raised my standards for that "genre". It's just fun, fun, fun.

    They even manage to throw Blade his shades just before the real action begins! rock!!!

    der_m

    1. Re:I got what I went for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The Bloodpack was supposed to represent Vampire the Masquerade. Tim Bradstreet, the same guy who did all those really cool VtM covers, designed most of the movie (along with Mike Mignola, creator of Hellboy).

      I thought that made all of it pretty cool, actually. Tell me you never looked at those Vampire covers and wondered what a movie that depicted that world would be like?

  49. Thanks everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks boys! My army of lobbyists needed the money! We only need to bribe 3 more senators to pass the SSSCA!

    Sincerely,
    Jack Valenti

  50. The real draw should be Donnie Yen by RottenDeadite · · Score: 2
    All the fight choreography was arranged by Donnie Yen, most recently of Highlander 4, but perhaps better known as Wong Kei-Ying from Iron Monkey.

    The upshot is that the fight scenes (which is what you should be seeing this movie for, not the plot), are incredible. Donnie Yen himself is a minor character in this movie, but fans will be dissapointed to discover that he has only one noteable fight scene, which is very breif, and no dialog whatsoever. However, as dedicated fans know, Donnie Yen's trying to steer his career away from acting and more towards direction and choreography, both of which he excells at.

    I'd recommend anyone interested in Donnie Yen to pick up Iron Monkey, of course, but moreover the movies he himself directed, such as Legend of the Wolf and Ballistic Kiss.

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    1. Re:The real draw should be Donnie Yen by duncan+bayne · · Score: 1

      Your .sig wouldn't have anything to do with the game Tau Ceti, from CRL, would it?

    2. Re:The real draw should be Donnie Yen by Lysander+Luddite · · Score: 2

      I agree with everything you said up until that last paragraph. Donnie can't direct movies. He can choreograph them, yes, but he should not be allowed to ever direct again, especially movies in which he stars such as Ballistic Kiss and New Fist of Fury (or whatever the US title is this week).

      It's realy too bad since his career looked promising with Woo Ping as his mentor. But a messy divorce kept the number of his films down.

      Having him killed offscreen was a travesty in my opinion.

  51. Real Ultimate Power by robkore · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    We all know that Blade is so totally tubular because of his Real Ultimate Power

    I mean, he is(was?) a mammal, he fights ALL the time, and his purpose is to flip out and kill people.

  52. Blade 2 is the funniest movie of the year by Enrico+Pulatzo · · Score: 2

    First off, I loved Blade 1, it was a romp full of vampire fu goodness.

    Blade 2 was like that, but way overdone. I couldn't help but laugh at Snipes every time he over-flaired his sword moves or what should have been smaller movements.

    Blade 2 just added to the long list of action movies that suck as they try to use some sort of "group". The only exception that I've seen is Executive Decision, Steven Segal's best film to date.

    1. Re:Blade 2 is the funniest movie of the year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Executive Decision was Seagal's best movie ever because he dies in it...and you don't have to listen to some political let's save the world line when the movie is over...

    2. Re:Blade 2 is the funniest movie of the year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steven Seagal's best movie? He was only in it for like 25% of the time -- it was almost like he had a fight with the producer or something and so they had to can him from the film by having him die early on...

      Incidentally, I know a few people (who hate Seagal) who found that to be their favorite part of the movie... :) Turned out to be pretty good with/without Segal anyway...

      I think his best movies (and none for acting ability, obviously!) are Under Siege, Hard to Kill, and Above the Law. And US2:DT, and Out for Justice...

      Exit Wounds wasn't bad, and The Glimmer Man was OK, although there were some scenes where the editing to cover Seagal's slowness was just waaay too obvious. The rest of his work sucked (either for poorer-than-even-Seagal-level production values (The Patriot - amazing that even in a totally sealed-off bunker near the end of the film that they still manage to have windows along the walls that let sunlight in!) or too much country bullshit (Fire Down Below and that other piece of shit that took place in Alaska that Seagal directed himself - can't remember the name 'cuz it sucked so bad!)...

  53. y? by cyberbob2010 · · Score: 0

    y is it that all of the adults on Slashdot have to make fun of teenagers. Once again I'm
    stuck reading another stereotypical article trash talking teenagers (the whole 13 yr. old
    boy thing). It's not like we're all a bunch of script kiddies out to hack your stuff. And
    even if we are, you guys, being the adults and commercial software makers and vendors,
    should learn to make your XXXX more secure. everytime I read something that has a bad review or is talking about hacking, all I get is 16 yr. old this and 15 yr. old that. you were once there to and many of yesterdays hackers and crackers are todays technology leaders

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  54. The first five minutes of the first by happyhippy · · Score: 1

    made that film good. Any similar stuff in the second?

  55. My Review... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scud, who is Blade's partner while Whistler was gone, was actually helping the Bloodpack all along, trying to lure him into proximity with the Blodpack so they could get Blade.

    Also, the head of the vampires is actually trying to grow a breed of vampires that are impervious to sunlight, silver, etc. Incidentally, the reapers are a result of one of the earlier experiments with the breeding, and the head of the Reapers is actually the head's son! Imagine
    that! I guess that's loyalty for you!

    The final fighting scene starts off with the head Reaper killing the head vampire (but not turning him), and injuring Nyssa (his sister). He fights Blade, and Blade eventually kills him using the shattered blade from his sword to stab the Reaper through the heart via the only vunerable position (from the side). Blade carries Nyssa outside so she can view the sunrise as she dies.

    Wowee! What a movie!

    Oh yeah....spoilers are above...

  56. Who's Roger Ebert? by 56ker · · Score: 1

    (The subject says it all).

    1. Re:Who's Roger Ebert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure if you are serious or not but Roger Ebert is the film critic for the Chicago Sun Times. He also co-hosted several movie review tv-shows with Chicago Tribune critic Gene Siskel (sp?). He's also writen many books and write several online columns.

  57. The matrix is still the gold standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and if you dont think it is...wait till Matrix reloaded!

  58. I think I'll pass on Blade 2 by dolphin558 · · Score: 1

    Something about the satanic connections with vampires, and things of that nature that will keep this guy away from such films.

    http://www.geocities.com/lilmacumd/escape.html

    1. Re:I think I'll pass on Blade 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vampires are totally unrelated to Satanism.
      Satan is a euphemeism for people - not some discrete entity you can pick up or throw at people - and Vampires are are as imaginary as god: Both Vampires and god exist only in the minds of the delusional.
      Neither Vampires nor Satan have anything to do with a system of outmoded beliefs that manages to struggle slowly towards the inevitable death truly deserved by such an unpalatable meme, which should have long died as a result of the advent of science.
      If you're going to be a religiously inclined

  59. This just in! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot editors: Fuck the fucking MPAA!
    MPAA: Here, look at these pretty colors.
    Slashdot editors: Oooh...
    MPAA: That will be $10.
    Slashdot editors: Do you take Visa?

  60. It's Entertainment by alvinsb · · Score: 1

    If I wanted to think whenever I went to a movie, I wouldn't go. It's *entertainment*. I go for fun. Yeah some movies suck, others are great, but do I analyze them from opening credits till the end. . . no. I'm there to relax and be *entertained*, not educated.

    -Al

    P.S. Yes, I liked Blade 2.

  61. ROFL by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 2

    I can't wait to see it.

    Nothing like seeing a bunch of blood sucking beavers! Sounds like we're nearing the quality of Night of the Lepus!

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  62. damnit man, by LOTR+Troll · · Score: 0

    the only point of going to see Blade II was the fight scenes!

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  63. Dang, was that cool! by HardCase · · Score: 2, Troll

    Yessir, I think that after watchin' all them cool wwf-type moves on that there Blade 2, I'm a-gonna git me some backyard rasslin' action. Oh man, did you see the preview for The Rock's new movie? He's gonna git him one a them oscar things for best badass of the year. Yeah, and then maybe I'll catch one of them NASCAR races...Saint Dale would have wanted it that way. Lucky number 3!

    -h-

    1. Re:Dang, was that cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ot, but it doesn't matter-

      after "saint dale" crashed, I really wouldn't consider 3 a "lucky number"

      of course, I don't consider rabbits feet lucky-

      they weren't for the rabbit.

  64. Vladinator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that you, Scotty buns? I've been missing you. Why don't you call me?

  65. the UV Bomb by doubtless · · Score: 1

    One of the worst part of the movie was the detonation of the UV bombs in the suit case.. Like many cinematic effects, it is grossly wrong from physical standpoint.

    By combining alot of those small UV (light) bombs, they were able to produce a very bright light, and it BENDS across the winding tunnel!! I thought it'll be a little more convincing if the suitcase will blast the little UV bombs across the tunnel and then detonate each of them.. but boy, they bend light!

    It's just too funny for me at that point.

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    1. Re:the UV Bomb by mikemsd · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows that if you tape a lot of flashlights together you can bend light. I mean, the brighter it is the more bendy. It's one of those laws of movie physics.

    2. Re:the UV Bomb by doubtless · · Score: 1

      I agree, but please see the movie, u'll know what I mean. They practically make the light just bend like flames.

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    3. Re:the UV Bomb by maalox · · Score: 0

      I just assumed that the light was reflecting off of the tiles in the sewer.

      But yeah, the light effects were a bunch of crap.

      (btw, it's "a lot")

    4. Re:the UV Bomb by Dreamweaver · · Score: 2

      I think it actually Was flame. If you noticed during the tunnel effect the light came flaring up, then the blue-white flames released by the dying reapers rushing after it.

      Although, on a side note, if you have a sufficiently bright light it won't bend, but it will certainly bounce. If you shone a couple thousand candle power of light in the center of a room with a single tunnel exit, it'd light the way pretty dang far down the tunnel, twisty or not. Now, if you had enough turns of sharp enough angles it'd certainly stop the light, but a flare that bright would certainly shine around a corner.

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    5. Re:the UV Bomb by Skeld · · Score: 1

      ok, ok, look. The light in the little light bombs is produced by a chemical reaction. The big light bomb is a huge amount of compressed gas. The big bomb goes off, spreads the chemicals around (corners), and then the chemical reaction happens, releasing light.

      The light doesn't bend. C'mon people SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF!!

      -Skeld

    6. Re:the UV Bomb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I laughed three times in a row after reading that!

      ...God, I love /.

    7. Re:the UV Bomb by Fjord · · Score: 1

      Really, it wasn't so much the going around the corner that I hated. The way it looked, it look liek it was plasma going around the corner.

      It's just that even if you accept how the bomb worked, it sucked. It would have made more sense to take each single bomb out and detonate it while walking nonchalontly through the sewer. That's what Brian Boytano would have done.

      And how the fuck did that chick survive. Earlier just a single bomb killed everyone underwater. Fuck the UV bomb. Fuck it right in the ear.

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  66. My Blade II Review by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 4, Interesting
    There is nothing, I repeat, nothing in theaters right now that is more fun than Blade II.

    It's big. It's brawny. It's darker, it's scarier, it's downright vicious compared to the kicked dog that is now the original "Blade."

    Sure the names are simple and the action is over-energetic. This is a living comic book folks, and anybody who's ever read a comic book will easily see the connection. We have the "cool" shots of him putting on his sunglasses, the "slow-mo-coming-out-of-the-water-with-big-guns" shot, etc. The framing is specific and easy to follow. The story for "Blade 2," like any well-plotted comic book, is driven by action. Unlike other superhero films (*cough*TombRaider*cough*) that rely on "stopping points" to explain plot, "Blade 2" just throws it all at you and expects you to keep up. The new Reapers are easily the most frightening thing I've seen on the big screen in the past few years, I don't know about you.

    The plot of course is that Blade helps the vampires destroy the vampire-eaters. But, and this is going to sound a bit strange, it still manages to convey the importance of loyalty, tells a love story, and captures betrayal in a non-cringing and original way. This is especially important for a film such as this, where such melodrama is encouraged, but normally goes too far to remain serious. And now that we've moved past the "origin story" film, scribe David Goyas finally breathes life into a character who desperately needs it.

    And you have to give a hand to director Guillermo Del Toro. Look at a few of his past few films: The first brilliant 1/2 hour of "Mimic" and the exceptional ghost story "The Devil's Backbone". Del Toro takes a gritty sense of realism and blends it with a stylish take that the original "Blade" was painfully missing. The editing is the true defintion of "The Fast and the Furious," with jump-jump cuts and brutal slow-down that was tried in "Moulin Rouge" but is brought to perfection here.

    Let's face it folks, it's a popcorn film. It's meant to be seen with friends so they, just like yourself, can spout Blade's one-liners for the next few weeks and groan in unison at the most gruesome spots.

    Del Toro's amazing direction and Goyer's much-better-than-the-first-Blade script make this a solid hit. See it loud and proud on the big screen in a dark room with strangers. This one's a true crowd pleaser.

    Evan (blog); I write for here and here.

    1. Re:My Blade II Review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The new Reapers are easily the most frightening thing I've seen on the big screen in the past few years, I don't know about you."

      Let me assure you, I am one horrifically evil son of a bitch.

    2. Re:My Blade II Review by Fjord · · Score: 1

      Unlike other superhero films that rely on "stopping points" to explain plot, "Blade 2" just throws it all at you and expects you to keep up.

      I don't get this, Blade II had the classic "I'm the arch-villian and here is my plan" scene at the end. At least in the first one the plan was tortured out of Pearl and recovered from the files. The plot of Blade II was not a smooth as the first one, even though the first one was Blade vs. a petty thug whereas this was Blade against the mafia.

      Don't get me wrong, I loved the action, I'm glad I saw it, and I'm planning on seeing Blade III if-and-when it's produced (supposedly the vampires have taken over). But this plot was not flawless. Queen was a better vampire movie.

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  67. This isn't art house fare by gizmo_mathboy · · Score: 1

    First off, anyone that uses "oeuvre" in a review of an action film based on a comic deserves a wedgie, wet noogie, and generally laughed at for being such a poser.

    I was expecting a lot from Blade II. I wasn't expecting a story, I wasn't expecting great acting, and I definitely wasn't expecting scientific validity/consistency. I was expecting to see lots of fights, special effects, and comic book fun.

    I would say that it delivered on all counts. Besides, whom needs to have a scientifically valid action comic flick (not movie, not cinema, it's a flick)? I want just enough story to get from fight to fight. If it isn't a decent story (which Blade did have in the original) then don't let it interfere with the reason I paid to see Wesley Snipes do his action groove thang. Besides, he helped in fight coordination in both films and did well.

    'Nuff said.

  68. wait a second... by AnimeFreak · · Score: 2

    A movie review NOT by Jon Katz? That is like, weird and I think he'll be upset about that.

    I will be seeing Blade 2 this Friday and I hope it is as good as some people are saying.

  69. It starred Kris Kristofferson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you expected it to be good?

    Hello? Step into this millenium already... ;-)

  70. FYI by Evil_Furby · · Score: 0

    Blade is based on a comic book of the same name.

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  71. San Pedro and some green-bud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought it was a pretty damned kick-ass movie - I mean, the "plot" was about kicking ass. Vampire ass.

    Lots and lots of vampire ass-kicking.

    Oh, yeah - chomping down on some san pedro cactus ( conveniently sold at the local Home Depo for 12 bucks - mmm mescaline ) and a couple bong hits certainly helped increase the enjoyment factor by a large factor.

  72. did we see the same movie? by vena · · Score: 1

    first, i don't remember the movie ever claiming the "vampire virus" (a popular theme in vampire literature and movies since bacteria and virii were discovered) was airborne. in that, you must get your facts straight, chris. in fact, there are a lot of points where i have to honestly question if you payed attention, or saw the movie at all. yes, we all remember how Blade had to hock stolen goods to pay for his operation. yes, he eventually ends up with some serious weaponry and gobs of silver bullets. what you forgot to realize is that this is *after* he's teamed up with the Vampire Nation. would it have been beyond your comprehension to see a link there? as for shipping his car: it's not that hard, nor unimaginably expensive to do that. shipping his support guy? where did they say this? his origin is explained EXTREMELY vaguely and we're never given his origin. the names used in this film are typical comic book naming conventions. simple to understand, descriptive, and appealing. that you don't mention anywhere that this entire movie franchise is based off a comic book character leaves me thinking you didn't even know. in that case, i forgive you, but your analysis can only be shallow without investigation. chris, your entire review was flamebait and better posted on a yahoochat messageboard. you didn't discuss anything but shallow detail, and you managed to be incorrect at least twice. next time, you might want to think a little harder before posting a movie review. you're not very good at it.

  73. Wesley did good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This type of a role fits Wesley like a glove, very dark and angry. As already mentioned the fight scenes were awesome. They looked more realistic than Jet Li's in "The One". However, the director didn't use the right touch with this storyline with all its twists near the end. Also, I think they took Kris out of stasis just so he could take a beating every 5 minutes. They also wasted the guy on the bloodpack who is an excellent martial artist - seen him a bunch of times. He got killed too soon. I liked the intro though because it reminded me of Shaft.

  74. stupid html formatting... sorry. by vena · · Score: 1

    and i'm the idiot who chose "html formatting" accidentally. damnit...

  75. It Sucked... by Spectra72 · · Score: 1
    ...scratch that, it f*$cking sucked.

    For god's sakes people, Blade did a WWF-style suplex as one of his fighting moves!! And the the other guy did a flying elbow..OFF THE CEILING!!

    Even the gay ass Anne Rice vampires are better than this WWF-Smackdown version. Blade II is an insult to good vampire movies. And good action movies.

    Oh, and Kris Kristopherson should try finding roles that have less gratuitous use of the word "cunt-hair", it doesn't suit him.

    1. Re:It Sucked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was one of the vampires that said cunt-hair, not Whistler.

    2. Re:It Sucked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ditto

  76. the plot takes place before blade I by eske · · Score: 1

    The plot time is before blade I therefore is Wisthler still alive. It is as simpel as that!
    beside blade I has the best movie "lets-make-a-super-exiting-mood" for the viewer. The action scene in the klub is great! Still bad reviews can keep me away from this film!

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    1. Re:the plot takes place before blade I by mikefoley · · Score: 1

      Is that super exiting or super exciting.. Really, it makes a difference. :)

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    2. Re:the plot takes place before blade I by tetro · · Score: 1

      "thank you for getting rid of Frost"

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  77. BLADE FUCKIN' II! FUCK YEAH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BLADE FUCKIN' II! FUCK YEAH!

    Man, like I just came from seeing Blade Fuckin II and I'm writing the title like that because aw man you're going to be so blown away you'll be all like, "Blade Fuckin II, that's what it should be called not Blade II because seriously HOLY SHIT". Even if you're talking to your grandparents visiting from Ohio you'll have like F-words flying because the movie kicks ass with a boot made of burning meat.

    Also, if you see it with your girlfriend you'll automatically break up because hey, chicks stay away from this one. Go see Wedding Planner or that other one with the British guy and the bookstore and the cute dog and the herbal tea because this movie isn't for the chicks. Maybe for the chicks who ride motorcycles and can beat up pit bulls, maybe, but like holy shit fuckin boom! Pow bang yeah!

    The movie is all about vampires which are bad enough but then there's these other vampires which are all like worse - their mouths are like garbage disposals so when they bite someone it's like a log flume ride made of blood and also there's heavy metal music playing over it.

    The other vampires - the disposal mouth dudes are eating up the regular vampires so they're all like, "We gotta get Blade to help us" so they totally get him to go in with this group of ass-kicking vampires and here's the twist - they were trained to kill Blade only now they and Blade have to work together to kill the super-vamps and then, from that point on (MAJOR SPOLIERS AHEAD):

    FUCKING SLASH KICK GUNS HEADS BLOWN OFF GODDAMN MOTORCYCLE FIGHT SCENES PUNCHING EYEBALLS OUT FLYING GUTS THROUGH THE AIR AND ALSO THIS ONE TOTALLY HOT CHICK SPURT CRUSH SNAP BONES EXPLOSIONS FIRE MELT-Y EXPLOSIONS SLAUGHTER MASSACRE RUN JUMP FLIP OVER HAMMER MACHINE GUN THROWING KNIFE-Y THING DEAD.

    So when someone tells you this movie doesn't totally kick ass it's legal for you to break a bottle over their head and kick then in the groin and you can also fight the cops who show up to take you away - the movie is that bad-ass. See it before everyone thinks you're gay.

  78. Oh, NO! You're HERE, too?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bad enough we have to put up with your crap in the Aint-it-Cool-News talkbacks. . .

  79. Thanks for supporting our oppressors, everyone! by FFFish · · Score: 2

    Thanks for throwing cash at the likes of Jack Valenti, everyone!

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  80. or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How BII is enigmatic of the post Enron collapse when viewed thru the vampire genre of hollywood. Enron execs feeding on the blood of staffers while extolling the new world that they and they alone will create....

    1. Re:or... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2

      Not a very good impression, despite accurate content, because Katz would have taken that and padded it out to 1,000 words (without saying anything more).

      Not that I'm blaming you... Who would want to do -accurate- Katz impressions?

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    2. Re:or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first one was purely anti-semetic. The vampire's
      publications were writen in a writing that looks alot
      like hebrew.

      I saw it first in the movie theatre. Then I saw it on
      a plane, and my dad who was sitting next to me, pointed
      it to me.

      Then about a year later, my roomate rented it and I looked harder
      this time. Specially when he kills the fat bathtub creature, then
      goes to fight in the library of old scriptures. It was all hewbrew.
      and they say hollywood is jewish,*smirk*.

    3. Re:or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      damn you are such a hebe

      and wrong - extremely wrong

    4. Re:or... by vipw · · Score: 1

      why wouldn't an ancient document be in hebrew?

    5. Re:or... by Danse · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking some people just have a major persecution complex.

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  81. Blade is not a vampire right? by CanadaDave · · Score: 1
    So Blade isn't a vampire? Where does he get his seemingly special abilities from? Is it sort of a Batman effect?

    1. Re:Blade is not a vampire right? by Seth+Finkelstein · · Score: 2
      From the comic Blade origin :
      Blade has perhaps the most bizarre origin of all of the vampire hunters in TOD. During his labor, Blade's mother was undergoing complications and her friends summoned a doctor of dubious background. The doctor turned out to be the white-haired vampire known as Deacon Frost. He feasted on Blade's mother right before Blade's birth which resulted in Blade being immune to vampire bites. As a result of Frost's attack, Blade's mother died but not before she gave birth to Blade. Blade was raised by his mother's work associates until he was 9 years old. At age 9, Blade helped save the life of vampire hunter Jamal Afari, a musician who took Blade in and raised him as his son. Afari trained Blade as a vampire hunter as well as a trumpet player until Dracula turned Afari. Blade was forced to kill Afari and swore revenge on Dracula.
      I don't know if the movie is faithful to this. But it was a very original idea.

      Sig: What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org)

    2. Re:Blade is not a vampire right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, aren't you the freak stalking our beloved Michael?

  82. katz reviews write themselves....suckage and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just pretend he's comparing Enron execs to vampires, and then spin it with a touch of spank and glow about how sheep were made to be shorn...foodchain and all that.

  83. Re: Blood God. by Mr.+Flibble · · Score: 2

    You should rent the DVD (Support the MPAA!! ;) and check out the special features. You should see what the blood god was originally, and how the movie ended before they came up with the present ending to Blade I.

    The blood god really was a god, but the audience did not identify with it, and became disenchanted with the movie at that point, so they changed it.
    (And the effects are *BAD* for the blood god there, but then, that is because they are just the test shots.)

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  84. uhhgh... by PinkFreud · · Score: 1

    This movie blew some serious goat testicles.

    Seriously - this movie was bad. Real bad. The plot was nonexistent, the storyline jumped all over, and the morons behind the movie seemed to realize the fight scenes were the best part - much of the movie was devoted to jumping from fight scene to fight scene. So much so, in fact, that I nearly fell asleep DURING several of the (many) fight scenes - they couldn't even hold my attention.

    This movie ranks second in my book of 'Movies To Avoid Like The Plague', behind Mars Attacks.

  85. My Opinion [NO SPOILERS] by BMazurek · · Score: 2
    I just saw it tonight after watching the first one this weekend.

    The first one oozed style, flair, pinache....whatever word you want to use for it. It was amazing. This one tried to capture the same sense. Didn't work.

    This one had a better plot, IMO. Sure, they both require suspension of disbelief, but c'mon, it's a movie based on a comic book. I can suspend my disbelief.

    The first one had a mild love interest that was believable, as Blade drew parallels between the doctor in the movie and his mother. This movie had an apparently much more important love interest for Blade. Why? Damned if I know. That wasn't explained or developed. Maybe it's those damn phermones.

    The fight scenes were done quite poorly, IMO. They were shot all close in with lots of fast cuts. I haven't been this disappointed with action sequences since Romeo Must Die. C'mon, some of these people can do martial arts (Snipes is a 5th degree black belt, if I remember correctly), so why weren't they allowed to do their stuff. This whole 5 cuts a second crap is ridiculous. It's genuinely hard to watch and make sense of.

    Overall, I was disappointed. The first one was more enjoyable...

    1. Re:My Opinion [NO SPOILERS] by SgtXaos · · Score: 1

      PROBABLY SPOILERS, but what the hell, if I help someone save their $6, I have done a good deed.

      Finally, one person who agrees with me and the two friends who went to see this trash with me. I liked the first movie, and I like campy, comic book hero movies in general, so I am not expecting high drama, oscar quality acting, or intriguing plot. What I do expect is that such a movie accentuate those qualities that make such a movie what it is.
      Plot can be anything from useless to good, doesn't matter. Acting can suck, or be stunning, no problem. But at least be true to the genre!

      For instance, this is basically a martial-arts movie. So why zoom in and cut up the fight scenes so poorly that all you see are flailing limbs? And why not try to make the CGI seamlessly blend with the live actors (e.g. early fight between Snipes and his love interest in front of the big bank of lights). I want to see good cinematography for the fights in a martial arts movie, not an incomprehensible blur.

      And since it is also science fiction, at least the everyday science could be consistent with our universe. Light doesn't bend around and flow like blue fire. Filters over the white light flashlights on the weapons were supposed to filter UV, so why did they look blue? Wouldn't they look red? And I am so tired of night-vision goggles that glow red! Why would you want to present such a perfect target in the dark? Good science fiction either creates it's own internally consistent laws of physics,(in the case of some strange, otherworldly locale or far in the future) or it extends our own, if the time and place is current. This thing mixes the two, making mush.

      Finally, for any tale, internal consistency is a must. Why carry hundreds of pounds of silver ammo and assault weapons (into the sewers) when they already know the new guys are not allergic to silver and absorb magnum gun blasts while healing instantly. Why not just plant all the individual UV grenades and set them off remotely, instead of packing them into a box so that they all shine light up (even though the light penetrated the sides of the box and bent down tunnels, see above). Why didn't the vamps use the blackout suits (that they already have in the beginning of the film) with special sunglasses when they went down to use the UV bombs? It goes on and on.

      So it was not a serious movie, but that's ok. What's not OK, is that it was a very poor example of the movie it wanted to be.

      My comment when the end credits rolled pretty much sums it up - "two words: Highlander Two"

      Don't waste your time/$

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      -- Don't call me "Sir," I increase entropy for a living!
  86. It Could Have Been Much Worse by mgrochmal · · Score: 1

    Yes, it's a comic-book-to-movie. Most people didn't expect to go and find a fine piece of cinematic history. They went to see a vampire flick. For what they went to see, this movie was pretty decent. At least you could remember who the major characters were, unlike, say, Resident Evil. You cheer for Blade while he hacks up the undead, while you wait for what's-her'name to run away from the shuffling corpses. I liked RE when it first came out, but seeing Blade II reminded me of what Resident Evil could have been. Now I bide my time until the next foray into survival horror...(sarcasm) Scooby Doo! (/sarcasm)

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  87. What is Jason X? by Slur · · Score: 1

    Jason X is the next-generation killer-OS with all the power of Unix and a stunning hockey-mask interface we call Hockwa. Created by the mysterious undead developer Jason Vorhees of Crystal Lake Software, Jason X is guaranteed never to crash, whether stabbed, incinerated, trampled, drawn-and-quartered, or submerged in acid. Slash through documents! Tear through graphics! Nail those presentations! Jason X renders other operating systems... into little bloody bits!

    "I've been using the beta of Jason X for awhile now, and I can say it truly rocks!" - Johnny Depp

    "I used to be nervous and dress really bad, but Jason X has made me ultra cool!" - Crispin Glover

    Not everyone agrees:

    "I still prefer Windows, especially since they killed Netscape." - Jamie Lee Curtis

    "They think Jason X will be the next big thing? Ha! IN YOUR DREAMS!!" - Robert Englund

    Stay tuned kids!

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    -- thinkyhead software and media
  88. SPOILER ALERT. Plot discussed by OS24Ever · · Score: 2

    And I got just that! The vampire safe house club scene was great. They one-upped the opening club sequence of the first movie with this club scene. The people standing around with their skin peeled back and vamps pickin away at it was both amazingly gross and kinda like watching a car wreck, don't car buy you gotta stare.

    Blade was always one step in front of the guys.

    The big dude from 'Beauty and the Beast' played an excellent bad guy. Do you Blush? Of course we must use that line in his finale. Once again quite the shot.

    The Bad Girl gone Good was hot in her sexy leather outfit. Not to mention her death sequence. It was very cool CGI.

    The co-horts of the blood gang were a bunch of idiots.

    The reaper autopsy was wild. Not to mention the way they go for blood.

    Chopping the guys head in half with a sword and the eye stares at you and blinks. That was great!

    This was a VAMPIRE movie people. Not only that but a VAMPIRE tha walks during the day not sucking people's blood and killing other vampires! You expected a plot? Come on. The first one didn't have much of a plot.

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    As a rock-in-roll Physicist once said, No matter where you go, there you are.

  89. Re:SPOILER ALERT. Plot discussed by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    there were fewer spoilers in that than in the supposedly spoiler-less review

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    -- 'The' Lord and Master Bitman On High, Master Of All
  90. Yeah, about that... by Talsan · · Score: 1

    What got to me about the movie, is I kept asking myself if I was really seeing Blade II or if we accidently went into a theater showing some sort of WWF movie.

    A couple of my friends swear they were able to find a Star Wars parallel in the movie, but they couldn't really explain that afterwards. --Go figure, eh?

    -Tal

  91. Idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blade2 was awesome. I just think SlashDot has a problem, maybe the editors are too young, or too old, who knows. Either way, the last few movies I've seen and really liked slashdot hated and vise-versa, I just read these now to make sure I'm not wrong about slashdot and how god-awefuly wrong they are about everything.

    1. Re:Idiots by MeNTyFReSh · · Score: 1
      So in other words... your god, and everyone else is the world cant have an opinion on one of the dumbest movies ever made....... Ah... its all becoming clear now.. when i die i'll remember to spit on your shoes as i walk by..

      "God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh." - Voltaire

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  92. Actually the stasis was explained by Knightmare · · Score: 1
    Mind you, Whistler's now a vampire who is in some kind of hastily unexplained "stasis" for the last few years, so that Blade can inoculate him against the vampire virus and make him human again.

    If you follow the dialogue he actually explains it while he is hobbling around surveying the new digs. He states that they would repeatedly torture him till he was close to death, just to put him in the blood stasis thing to heal back up and do it again. He even makes a comment that he wishes they had fixed his leg while they were at it. This might even explain your statement about continuity... If you missed that what else did you slip up on.
  93. I gave it a good review by aarondyck · · Score: 1

    I wrote a review of Blade II for my school paper, and I gave it a stellar review. I did mention the fact that it wasn't for physics buffs, but it was a very good action film that deserves quite a bit of credit.

    The special effects were incredible and truly designed for those of us who are able to understand just why such effects are used. I personally think that this movie was targetted at college students and young people. It was designed for people who enjoy movies simply for the action and the effects, not at serious movie-goers who want a deep plot and extreme character development. The effects made this movie, and I think it was worth my $19.00 (I took a fried) plus popcorn.

  94. Airborne by Knightmare · · Score: 1
    It's airborne! It's blood borne! It turns out it's script borne

    Did you possibly misunderstand arbovirus to be airborne? See this comment for another reference to it being the type of virus not them describing it's transport method. Quick search on google would make that not such a far fetched idea, the fact that it was a vampire instead of an insect is a bit off but... well we are talking about vampires here:

    • Arboviruses (arthropod-borne viruses) are a large group of viruses that are spread mainly by blood-sucking insects. In the United States, arboviruses are most commonly spread by mosquitoes.
  95. on the blade DVD... by SouperDouper · · Score: 1
    when they described blade, they said that,
    "sometimes you just need a movie that's about kicking ass..."
    And that is exactly what the blade movies are about. If you go in expecting a deep, well explained plot, you are going to be disappointed. On the other hand, if you go to see a movie for the pure action and fun of it, Blade II is worth the time and money.
  96. My take on the movie. by Exantrius · · Score: 1

    I went twice this weekend. I went in Edwards Cinema in Santa Maria, California. If any of you guys know the little kid that was snoring behind me in the 7th row back on the friday 5pm show, or the guy that was snoring two seats over on the sunday show, please smack them for me.

    I liked it. Like others mentioned, you went for the name, and stayed for the vampire ass-whoopin'. It got rather obnoxious (between the little kid crying on the side in the sunday showing, and some high school assholes that caught up with me. ) that *EVERYONE* double-crossed someone.

    And one more thing. Why for the love of cthulu would someone bring an infant to this movie? 30 seconds into it, it started crying! They didn't leave until they were escorted out, half an hour into the show, *argh!*

    Sorry, I'm sick, and wanted to vent on something.. Feel free to disregard this post

    /ex

    1. Re:My take on the movie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went twice this weekend.

      Thanks for the $20! I need a $20 bill for all the coke I'll be snorting tomorrow as I plan new ways to cripple your civil rights.

      Sincerely,
      Jack Valenti

    2. Re:My take on the movie. by Exantrius · · Score: 2

      I said I saw it, I never said I paid to see it...
      Sometimes it's worth knowing people that work at the local theatre...

      /ex

  97. HMM by mar1no · · Score: 0
    "Immature 13-year-old boys up" As noted above, this movie is in fact based on comic books, and who else would be interested in this movie than the avid comic book reader(ie teens, kids, pregnant women). Thus it's not like anyone is going to see this movie because of the plot, they wanna see their favorite superhero in action! Let them have some fun and ease up on the negativity.

    Would you start bashing Batman and Spider-man because they have lame plots? Surely not. Speaking of plots, I hear the Spider-man movie has a plot no different than Blade II. Which turns out to be good vs. evil. Don't bash the movie because its a comic book brought to life, envy it...with your life and with your mother's motorless lawnmower.

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    "you sonofabitch i didn't know!"
  98. katz by h4x0r-3l337 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I still don't agree with Katz' reviews, even when he uses a pseudonym.

  99. "graphic novel" by tonyt · · Score: 1
    quote:

    But the stupid names they chose for everything. "Whistler," "Scud" and "Blade" must defeat the "Reapers" with the help of the "Bloodpack" of the "Vampire Nation."

    blade is based off a comic book. this would support the writers' use of these names.
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    -=tonyt=-
  100. As someone who didn't go looking for plot... by Corvaith · · Score: 1

    ...I was extremely pleased.
    Blade 2 was not meant to be an Oscar-caliber movie. Blade, the original, had plenty of plot holes and iffy science and all the rest, and you know what? I don't give a damn about that, it was a marvel of effects and /atmosphere/.
    Blade 2 improved on the original in all those ways. The plotline wasn't as intriguing, but the choreography was jaw-dropping.
    Note that I didn't say 'good'. I said 'jaw-dropping'. As in, during the first serious fight scene, I could barely breathe. Hats off to Donnie Yen--who should have been given more chance to shine himself, but sadly we can't have everything. It was visual poetry, as smooth and elegant as anything you could hope for. Snipes happens to have a fifth-degree black belt and also practices capoeira, the spelling of which I know I'm slaughtering, and all of that really shows; martial artistry is not limited to Asians!
    The plot was imperfect. I'd go back to see it again, though, just to watch them move.

  101. Uber-Action, great one-liners and an OK plot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw Blade II on saturday and loved every minute of it. The plot wasn't very 'deep' but theres no reason for it in this type of movie and it was far better than most of the other movies that make it into theaters.

    The action was just amazing, the comments about the WWF movies are accurate, but I think they were thrown in for good fun. Before Blade does the suplex there is a dramatic pause and a shit eating grin and then *WHAM* right through some glass flooring. I started laughing when he smiled, the scene was funny and cool. There are a decent number of wrestling fans in the united states, why not throw something in the movie that they'll enjoy too.

    As far as the fight scene after he gets out of the blood-bath, that was my favorite. I've never been in/seen a fight with 30 against one (add in the stun-wand weapons too) but I'm assuming none of the attackers wanted to get hit with a stray stun wand. The scene reminded me alot of Kali/Escrima/Arnis and was very enjoyable.

    Jeff Imada (if you see a bad guy in a movie with a balisong/butterfly knife odds are its him) did stunt work and choreography on the first flick and you can see elements of Kali/Escrima/Arnis in that movie too. Jeff himself can be seen as the long haired badguy who gets into a little push-hand fight with blade and pushes him back into the pillar in the library where he gets tied to the pillar.

    Anyhow, both are very enjoyablem fun and entertaining. Better yet, a lot of girls I know liked Blade and want to see Blade II, its hard to hate an uber-action-violent movie that the ladies like. I agree that this review is for lack of better words a knob. His review was harsh and I'm under the impression that he doesnt care for this genre of film.

  102. I liked Blade 1 .. I liked Blade 2... so ... nyah by steppin_razor_LA · · Score: 1

    I enjoyed watching Blade 2. I think trying to pick apart the science, etc is missing the point. I regarded watching Blade 2 as being somewhat akin to watching a fun anime. I get pissy when movies try and take themselves seriously and have glaring plot/science/etc errors. I don't get pissy when I have similar experiences in comics, anime, etc. I suppose it is just a matter of expectation.

    I found a few things a bit cheezy (the suplex -- please!) -- but the fighting was a lot of fun, the music was good, and I enjoyed watching it.

    --
    Evolution: love it or leave it
  103. OK by Kitu-mijasi · · Score: 1

    Since when do people care about the science? This movie was based on the comic book. Everything in that movie was like the comic book.
    Who gives a shit about the science and gang names? All we want to see is Blade kicking some Vampire's ass.
    The acting was even better than in Blade 1. So what other names would you choose for the Reapers and the Bloodpack?.........Thats what I thought.
    So that was fun, but watching Blade II makes you realize how well Blade I's fights were filmed.
    Dude, go get some glasses or new glasses if you already wear them. The fighting scenes in Blade 1 were good. But Blade 2 fighting scenes are much better. There is better style and better moves than there was in Blade 1. I've never seen any real kung fu action in the cities of the U.S . You know, like in hong kong where they fly around buildings and stuff kicking ass all over the damn place. Blade brings all the heat wherever he goes.

  104. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

    Blade wins.

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    If Mr. Edison had thought smarter he wouldn't sweat as much. --Nikola Tesla
  105. Well dam. by VIIseven7 · · Score: 1

    The new strain of vampires lived underwater in a damn made from bones.
    Dam, damn... hey, works either way.

  106. Actually... by davey · · Score: 1

    I don't think blade can be turned into a vamp. I think that was his original power from the comic. The name Whistler is also from the comics. As for Blade's new-found wealth, well, that's just cuz he hasn't been supporting Whistler's drinking habbits the past 2 years!

  107. fucktards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it was good. stop being so damn smart.

  108. Christ, this movie has no taste...good thing I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    d/l'd it:-}.

  109. Audience Oppinion (slight spoiler) by SynKKnyS · · Score: 1

    When the ninja vampires were swinging on the roof of Blade's hide-out, the whole audience started laughing because it looked so cartoony. Most of the fights looked really cartoony, however the movie was ok overall.

  110. If u can't wait for Jason X by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1

    Turn on Showtime and see 'Supernova'. It's the same damn thing. I, for one, hate seeing movies that have a cool premise, but then fail to deliver. (Pitch Black) It coould have been so much better... I just wanted to go read 'Nightfall' by Issac Asimov.

  111. whoa... by tricknology · · Score: 1

    What's with the big HP ad in the middle of the article? Did I miss something here?

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    I never been so broke that I couldn't leave town.
  112. Re:Screw all the hippies! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snipes - Epileptic Jigaboo.

  113. Shocker by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

    Who would'a guessed Blade 2 to be a bad flick? ;)

    Perhaps someone will fund Battlefield Earth 2, I imagine that might turn out better.

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    "Things are more moderner than before- bigger, and yet smaller- it's computers-- San Dimas High School football RULES!"
    1. Re:Shocker by Kredal · · Score: 1

      No, please! Not that, Anything but that!

      After the way they ruined the middle of Battlefield Earth (the book), I don't want to have any part in seeing the end of the book get mutilated for a stupid audience.

      --
      Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
  114. Subliminal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that Pixxar is part owned by Steve Jobs, but isn't the "Jason X" name of the tenth in a series a subliminal ad for MacOS X, also the tenth in a series of baddies?

    Or, am I just paranoid?

  115. Realism does count by seefried · · Score: 1
    I've never bothered to think about all the reasons that realism actually _does_ count to me, but let me try in the next few paragraphs.


    Before I raise the ire of too many people I'd like to say here and now that if you don't care for realism then I see your point of view. I simply wish to put across my point of view about why realism does matter to me.


    First and foremost, a lot of good fiction tries to be consistent. Why is consistency important? Because it gives you a grasp on the world being portrayed in the book/film. Without this grasp of the "rules" of the reality, I tend to find myself becoming distant from the characters, simply because I know they'll be able to do whatever the need to be able to do to advance the story.


    Just what is it about a film, say based on a true story that really makes us resonate with the character? I would hazard the opinion that it is because we know how hard the real world can be and just how difficult it must have been for that character to overcome whatever hardship they did.


    Perhaps another reason that people like to throw out realism (I prefer to call it "inner consistency") in movies is because there is a perception that realistic films won't appeal as much. This is patently false. I went to see Black Hawk Down recently and I can tell you that that film got my pulse running like few films I have ever seen before. Why? Because the main characters truly were in danger. Obviously if I go to see Blade 2, I know that Wesly Snipes is in no danger whatsoever at any stage in the film, and consequently the film is just not going to get my pulse running AS MUCH AS (note the careful choice of words) it would while watching Black Hawk Down.


    Science fiction films (yes, I realise Blade 2 is not SF technically - more horror) often lose out on inner consistency. This is strange considering that some of the earliest SF was what I would called "hard" science fiction (i.e SF that attempts to attain inner consistency to the highest degree.)


    Consider for a moment "War of the Worlds" or "The First Men in the Moon". True, these books have their fantastic elements. But if a new concept is introduced its implications are fully investigated. (Just think of the gravity shielding material that existed in "The First Men in the Moon". The idea of the shutters on the windows of the craft was a COOL idea.)


    I respect that there is place in this world for trashy inconsistent films and ones which are internally consistent. I hope to see more of the latter. It's harder to do, and it produces a MUCH nicer result in my opinion.


    Sean

  116. "suck puppy nut juice" by technizmo · · Score: 1

    Watching this movie, I got the feeling that the Budget rent-a-car marketing people got in a room and thought up the story for this...

    "Ok. Let's stick Blade in some foreign country, where everyone looks like they could possibly be a vampire hybrid mistake anyway. Then, we gotta make sure he has all his gear, including his muscle car. We should probably stick in some young rebel/hacker type assistant, in order for the audience to identify with somebody. "

    "What's that you say? Kris Kristofferson still works cheap? Not many movie deals coming his way? OK, let's bring him back then, too. We can make 'em believe that after he lost all his blood and shot himself, and after Blade spent all day making silver bullets in the same warehouse, that Deacon Frost's guys came and picked him up, even though they were all waiting at headquarters to be mowed down by Blade."

    "We have to make it look like there is a reason he came back, though. Alright, let's have him test out that cure that the hematologist thought up, then, we'll keep the audience in suspense as to whether it worked or not... throughout the entire movie...never to be revealed."

    "Then, let's make a team for Blade to be involved with, just like in Predator! Identifiable people getting killed is always more interesting. Hey, it's worked for the first nine Friday the 13ths... We have to make them the weakest vampires ever though, and kill them off quickly, or else there will be too many loose ends at the close of the movie."

    "Hey, Snipes is on the phone. He says he wants another million... Why don't we lose the well-timed quality techno music, and just blow our wad on CGI. We'll stick it everywhere! People liked the Street Fighter arcade game, we'll make the movie look like it!"

    "Dammit, since we hired the 'team', now we've gotta pay all those character actors. Guess we'll have to skip the continuity check. Maybe we can add some cool posturing (like the fist-pump after nailing Donal Logue to the wall, or the pre-fight sword circle motion in Blade I)."

    "Nah, that's not a good idea. Let's just spend more on some weak-ass CGI. Oh, and fire the cinematographer."

    This movie is watchable, but the things that made the original great are missing.

  117. duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, you didn't miss it...that's the point.

    It's called advertising...you know....what happens when someone can't make money doing what they do, so they sell out and since they can't charge admission, they sell billboard space to marketing guys.

    You don't know about marketing guys either? These are the guys that sold that a cable-ready TV to your parents...marketing guys...you know, the 'other' white meat.

    You don't know about 'white meat'? That's the flesh colored stuff they normally hang on skeletons and call 'lawyers'...you don't know about lawyers either? Good for you.

  118. i nominate it... by burnitall · · Score: 1

    for the 'Best use of a Crystal Method Song in an Action Sequence' for next year's oscar's =D...

    seriously though, kids - the movie shouldn't be taken tootoo seriously after all it's based on a COMIC BOOK.

  119. Blade II == Fun Movie by N8F8 · · Score: 2

    If you can't sit back and just enjoy a movie you really shouldn't be reviewing it for others.

    Balde II was one of the best sequels I ever seen. I was glued throught the entire movie. The audience was cheering sporadically.

    Do you like martial arts flicks? Did you like "Big Trouble in Little China"? Did you like Spawn? Do you like horror movies? If you answered "yes to any of these then Blade II is the best thing playing this week.

    --
    "God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
  120. Played like a comic book [light spoilers] by magic · · Score: 2
    For a movie based on a comic book, I thought they did a great job. The director, screenwriter, and cinematographer clearly love comic books and captured the over-the top symbolic essence of the art form.

    A battered Blade falling through a rain of bullets into a swiming pool of blood-- a vampire commando with automatic weapons in each hand running down a sewer pipe lined with super-vampires-- a hero with a Katana, pump shotgun, bioweapons, vampire fangs, and leather trenchcoat-- this really captures the essence of "what the hell, it looks cool."


    I thought the level of gross-out, horror movie violence/video game was a little insane. There are scenes where people open up with automatic weapons in night clubs, characters heads cut in half (I mean, you see inside the brain), and the super-vampire bad guys gave me nightmares. "It's ok to kill everyone in the movie because they're all just vampires" was a little too easy. You can't just weasel out of the ethics of showing hundreds of people eviscerated by saying that they were vampires so it's ok. There are a few scenes where actors seem to stand around in a fight waiting for someone to hit them-- this isn't Jackie Chan action but a string of one-on-one battles even in mass fight scenes.


    If you liked Blade I and the Matrix, I think you'll like Blade II. It gets more stylish in some places than the original and has relatively good writing for its genre. The actors all pull off their respective characters well. The Whistler plot-line is a little poorly thought out and it is not clear why all of the super-vampires hunt vampires instead of humans. Mordoc's revenge motivation shouldn't extend to his progeny. I think the star-crossed lover bit and the "do you trust Whistler" could have been emphasized a lot more and actually made this a really good movie plot-wise if they were pulled off.


    -m

  121. Re:Slashdot is lame? by MeNTyFReSh · · Score: 1
    The lamer who posts that people are lame... Yes.. i got it right.. ( do a little jig )

    do i get my prize now?

    Where is bob?... He stoled my pencil, so i killed him.. Oh, was it this pencil?, why are you looking at me like that... oh, ya the killing.."

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    "Eat right, Exercise daily, Die anyways."
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  122. Simpsons Quote by obi-1-kenobi · · Score: 0

    "Worst ending ever"

    It was.

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    "You win again Gravity!" -Futurama (Zapp)
  123. Don't we had enough by Alehandro · · Score: 0

    Don't we had enough of those movies. Blade, Buffy the vampire slayer...Spawn...etc. First was a Mummys, then dinasorius then we have a vampires. There was only 2 good movies and one tv serie. "J.C. The Vampires", "Interview with Vampire" and Canadian serie "after the midnight". Blade as well as Blade II is poorly made. Have tottaly idiotic 50s style plot. And exacly like someone said it's like watching someone playing vidoe game.

    p.s. have you ever seen friendly vampire?

  124. So, what we really wanna know... by modec · · Score: 1

    Was there any hard pumpin' bass boosted techno music in it?

  125. But on the oter hand... by digitalhallucination · · Score: 1

    ...I suppose Jon Katz loved it.

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    digitalhallucination... now phosphate free!!
  126. I thought the fx sucked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In several of the fight scenes (mainly the one with the two masked vamps), it was plainly obvious when they switched between live action and cg. It was actually painful to watch. I've said that things were painful to see before, but this sets a new record for crappyness. I thought Blade 1 was much better, and the action looked MUCH better than it did in this movie. The only redeeming factor in the movie is that I saw the matinee, so I'm only out $5 instead of $8.

  127. Blade - the alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone see the movie of the same name directed by Tsui Hark and starring Chiu Man Cheuk? Top film about a one-armed swordsmith who has re-learn his sword-fighting skills in order to avenge the death of his father (what else?).

    Great fight sequences that do a good treatment of the *legendary* skills of Chinese martial artists, and nod respectfully to the actual training and moves involved. The style is chaotic and dark, but this is used with great effect to convey the confusion of the 'moment' in the battle scenes. Interesting morals too, with the hero making unexpected choices throughout the movie. The last fight scene is one the best sword-fighting scenes I have seen yet - Crouching Tiger included.

    Worth a look if you're into the genre.

  128. Competition by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 1

    Lets face it, Blade II will never live up to Mach III. It just can't compete with the triple blade action.

  129. Maybe it's saved for Blade III: by inKubus · · Score: 1

    Oh God, Not Again

    Cheers

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    Cool! Amazing Toys.
  130. The Filthy Critic.. by inKubus · · Score: 1

    will probably compare this movie to the enjoyable experience of having a glass rod shoved up your urethra and then shattered.

    Funny, but not when it costs you 8.25. Save this one for the home theather...

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  131. Blade versus Goth Culture by firewrought · · Score: 1

    I expected Blade II to be a bunch of fight scenes strung together by a loose plot and lots of reeky junior-high testosterone. And that's pretty much what I got, except it churned me more than I anticipated. They could have created fight scenes to display the art of a fighting human body, but instead they opted for the neato flashing spheres of UV light and the shock value of mandibleless jaw-and-neck openings. They could have created a somewhat engaging plot, but instead they freely twist it back and forth--creating awkward and contradictory characters--just to add one-liners and artifical O-Henry surprises.

    To be honest, I can see what's cool about Blade's image, but it bothers me that some people (including the friend I saw the movie with) don't see the impovershment of that image. At least Queen of the Damned found something other than mindless violence to dwell on (namely, a sense of danger sensousness and tragic passion... echoed by Blade only during the closing sunrise scene).

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  132. Blade II would have made a GREAT music video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just cut out all the worthless dialogue (all of it), bad CG scenes, pointless and boring Reaper-hunting/Bloodpack scenes, and leave in the 10-15 minutes of keen fighting. It could be set to John Tesh's "NBA on NBC" theme.

    If this idea is used, please credit A. Yelabelid Coward. Or, you may use my directing name, Alan Smithee. Thank you.

  133. did expect much, got less by f00zbll · · Score: 1
    I didn't expect much out of the movie. I just wanted some action that's shot and edited with some skill. Well, snipes has good form and power, but heck if you can see it through all the aweful editing. WS should totally do a re-edit for the DVD and bag the first release, cuz it sucked nuts.

    I'm no editing genius or anything, but disjointed, rapid fire editing techniques are only effective if used in balance with longer shots to provide contrast and tension. I guess the guy who edited the thing was either smoking crack, or thought it would be a nice experiment to make it totally impossible to follow the moves (as in he's so fast you can't possibly see what he's doing). Sure they probably didn't want to it to look like CTHD, RH2, Matrix or Face Off, but the editor sure as heck failed to achieve a "new look" or any look.

    The only decently edited shot was the long fight sequence with the ninja, but the transition between live action and CGI felt totally forced and un-natural. The lighting for the CG pieces look like they were rushed and the lighting setup compromized. They probably cheesed the whole CG scene infront of the wall of flood lights and didn't do any lighting studies of the stage.

    1. Re:did expect much, got less by f00zbll · · Score: 1

      I should proof read. Didn't expect much was what I meant. looks like I'm just as sloppy as the editors of blade II.

  134. Is it that bad?? by Pedrito · · Score: 2

    I haven't seen it, so I can't give an opinion, but I find it interesting that Blade II rates much higher than Blade on IMDB. I tend to find that IMDB ratings, on average, agree with my opinion (though LotR may be great, I'm not sure it qualifies as #3 movie of all time).

    I'll probably wait to see it on cable. I just ordered the first one a few days ago, which I really enjoyed. I hope this review is a fluke, though the way it was written leads me to believe I'll probably agree with the author.

  135. Danny John Jules by Kronos. · · Score: 1

    I sure did, It was hard not to watch him kick some vampire butt and then start going "oowwwww!, Am i good or what!" while strutting his stuff, or complaining how red blood really doesn't go with the white of his fangs ;)

  136. Because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why didn't they get the same sunscreen that Deacon Frost used in the first one?

    Because this one had different writers, who (correctly) thought the whole "sunblock" thing was stupid.

    You're gonna put sunblock on your eyes, up your nose, and on every hair folicle?

    Incidentally, they DID mention this - when Blade tells them they'll be hunting during daylight, he makes a joke about them using plenty of sunblock.

    It was because of this that I thought Blade2 was better than the original - the story was better - if vampirism is biological in nature (it can be "cured" with a vaccine/antidote), where does the "blood god" fit into everything? The first one was 1/2 pseudo-science, 1/2 voodoo-BS, and they didn't mesh together particularly well.

  137. But was it as bad as Highlander II? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2

    Now that was a *really* bad movie. So bad that I kept thinking about getting up and leaving but couldn't because I wanted to see how bad it got.

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  138. Blade 2 : I hated it. by JFMulder · · Score: 1

    I went to see Blade 2 this weekend with 3 friends. I never saw the first one, but I thought, hey, this is a dumb action flick, I should be able to get the idea of their vampire mythology pretty quick. I was right.

    This movie is so undenialibly bad I don't know where to start. The fight scenes are probably one of the most ricidulous I have ever seen in a action movie, except for the Jackie Chan one's, but thuse are made to be funny. It uses repetedly stupid wrestling move that are just plain dumb to see ***** SPOILER, well, not much of one ***** like the time at the end of the movie when Blade is on it's back, and the bad guy, instead of going up to him and beat the shit out of him, crawls up the wall and just leaps from the top and lands with this elbow on Blade's chest, like The Rock would do from the third cable in a wrestling ring. Puuuuuuuuhhhlease! Stupid moves like this happen all the time in this movie. Also, the vampires are so dumb. One of the first scene where we are introduced to the vampire who'll recruit Blade, they have these kind of power armor or something that protects them from UV lights. Later on, they go for a special mission in the sewer in day light, and these f***king morrons don't even bring they UV suits!! (light kinda gets in small doses in the sewer. Plus they have some sort of UV bomb, so the suit would come handy) Come on!!! I guess they didn't have so the writers could add a little more action. Bad bad bad bad bad!!! It's pretty much like the use of sun screen to protect a vampires from the sun in the first movie. So why didn't they at least apply some when they went in the sewer. ******* SPOILER FINISHED *******
    This movie has no head and no tail.
    It's totally a disgrace to vampire movies, and a disgrace to action movies. It's just dumb, and not entertaining dumb, no sir. Just plain Dumb.

  139. Credit, but no cash by vtweb · · Score: 2, Informative

    I spoke with Gene Colan 2 weeks ago, and asked
    him about the movies. He has not gotten a dime
    from either one. He said that he "let it go", but
    that Marv Wolfman had been trying (unsuccessfully)
    to sue for royalties. Gene has a website where
    some of his original art is available for sale.

    Gene and Marv are also credited at the end of
    Blade II, as original creators.

  140. Thoughts on Blade 2. by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

    I went not expecting any plot / character development / continuity and wasn't disappointed.

    Yeah, there were huge gaps.

    Couple of things I wondered about...

    Weren't all the clans leaders dragged out to that vampire church in the last movie and their blood drained into the Mr. Frost who then became the Blood God? Apparently someone doesn't open their mail, or slept in after dusk on accident...

    Was it just me or as soon as you saw that huge pool of blood you thought: "Yup, blades gonna fall into that and they'll have a blade rising out of the blood ready to whoop some ass scene"

    If vampirism is a viral infection, how can you have a pure blood vampire?

    Just thoughts. Though the weapons were whoop-ass. Too bad blade didn't have those flash bang grenades in the last movie, they could have cut about 25 minutes off the first movie.

    Just thoughts.

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    1. Re:Thoughts on Blade 2. by fuali · · Score: 0

      If vampirism is a viral infection, how can you have a pure blood vampire?

      think AIDs baby.

  141. STOP IT, PLEASE! YOURE KILLING ME!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'cmon! the whole entire movie is based on a friggin COMIC BOOK! its not supposto be scientifically correct! its main purpose is to deliver entertainment to the unedumacated peoples. and did the trailer for SPIDER MAN mean nothing at all!? THINK COMIC BOOKS. for anybody that has ever read a comic STRIP in their lives, are they EVER scientifically correct!? Blade II is right up there with all the Batman movies, ACTION-PACKED, and HILLARIOUS, thats the only purpose of this movie. for those of you who like to go the theaters with AN ECYCLOPEDIA to cross-reference all the facts in the movie youre watching, and then post all the flaws youve found, please dont. it just aggravates all those of us who ENJOYED the movie, and dont care if "light" can bend around corners(IT WAS GAS, PLEASE GET IT RIGHT BEFORE YOU COPMPLAIN!), if characters come back from the dead (although the end of whistler in Blade I DID leave room for more), we just want to be entertained.

    whew! i feel much better now, thank you.

  142. Ep. 2 trailer and a B 2 review review by shdowwar · · Score: 1

    I watched the Star Wars Episode 2 trailer, and quite frankly, I wasn't impressed. They have a LONG way to go to de-evolve that galaxy from the technologically-prevelant egotistical society that exists there now. I was discussing this in class with one of my friends, and we agreed that the original Star Wars episodes were superb, and the others that Lucas is now building are just to cash in on the Star Wars HYPE and due to that, they suck. Plain words, but they suck. Was Episode One cool? Absolutely. Should Jar Jar have been among the fishy guys that died? ABSOLUTELY! I recognize the fact that Lucas wanted to play with the CG, but building an entire race out of it? Come on now. Call me a purist, but I like characters that really could exist. How do you even define that race of Jar Jar's? Frogs? Amphibians? I mean the lobster admiral in the original 3 was really cool, and he took me for a mind trip the first time I saw him.

    Back to Blade II. For those who don't know, this was an ACTION movie. I personally think that the author of this review (not tutal but the root review here) would rather go watch some touchy-feely girly-girl movie that has a developed plotline and a romance and artistic development and etc. etc. etc. That was not the point of Blade, and was definitely not the point of Blade II. This was a movie about the Daywalker kicking the crap out of a bunch of suckheads, and they just happened to add a new breed of GENETICALLY ENGINEERED vampires to the mix to attempt to liven it up a little, and not bore the audience. I thought the new vamps were really cool, and personally, I wouldn't want to run into them in a dark alley myself. And I thought that there was more then enough information given to the audience about the new species, and while the Whistler bit was a tad far-fetched, and I thought Skud was a fu*khead, all of the elements worked together, and came out to form an excellent ACTION movie.

    Did I like the movie? H3lls yes! Am I going to buy the DVD as soon as it hits the shelves? ABSOLUTELY! Do I already have Blade on DVD? Of course! Am I tired of people writing reviews about movies and expecting the kind of plotline development you end up with a weekly television series to be crammed into a 2 hour movie? EVEN MORE THEN I LIKED BLADE II! C'mon folks, get real. If you want plot development, set your VCR or computer to record one of those daytime soap operas every day for a couple of weeks and get some popcorn and watch that crap. If you want to go see a movie that parts of the script had to be removed so that another 3-hour Titanic-waste-of-time wasn't created, go to the movie theater.

    Big Erik
    My opinions, my post.

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  143. Get it straight. by Varion · · Score: 1

    The review here was poorly done. The virus wasn't "script borne." The movie explains that the virus was injected during the bite. The fight scenes were obfuscated by loose clothing and stroboscopic effects. Don't expect to see experienced fight choreography of the same order of the matrix or Jackie Chan. It's a little under it. A bit fewer wrestling moves would really help raise the quality. Blade needs to see a chiropracter. He just can't stop crikking his neck. This is a gag that is dead, stop beating it. The whole thing was over the top. The original blade was understated compared to this. rating (***) of five. -V

  144. Jason X Seen it liked it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've all ready seen Jason X about a month ago. Unlike leprichans(sp?) in space and what ever other horror creatures have been shipped out there Jason acctually pulls it off rather well. Not to spoil to much but some of the visual effects were acctually sci-fi worthy. There are two killings that take place that are so graphic and done so well you just can't believe you saw it happen. It's acctually a nice mix of horror and comedy as well. Watching the nipples fall off an android is an experience not to be missed! If you can get a copy early(as I did) than sit through the download! If you are stuck on 56k then get your ass to the theater opening day. It's an excellent movie!

  145. And this is a glowing review by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let me preface this by saying my wife and I watched Blade the next evening for therapy. So
    these comparisons are pretty fresh in my mind.

    The review does get some things wrong - the virus is transmitted by the bites, of course - they're vampires. It's not clear from the first movie that Blade does have the virus. It's clear that his DNA was changed by his exposure to the virus, and that a retrovirus treatment will cure him, but not that he's infected.

    The "Vampire Nation" is also clearly a construct from the first movie, not something made up to attract 13 year-olds. It's a parallel government that rules the Vampires.

    Wesley Snipes was not at all energetic - he really wasn't into the role, and the CG fight-scenes were terrible. Yeah, they might be good compared to Playstation, but not that much better. The fighting characters were all skinny and rubbery, they didn't bend naturally.

    But the bigger problem is the direction. Watching the original again, the cinematography is simply brilliant. Be it the framing of the hands under the strobes in the bloodbath club or when the camera is chasing the Blademobile through the city, and pans off to a Vamp having a snack on the corner, Blade *looks* like a comic book, perhaps the finest adaptation I've seen. And the way the music is tied to the action, the editing was brilliant. When my wife and I were watching it the other night, there's the scene where Blade has been drained of his blood, then he takes some from the lovely costar, and goes to rejoin the fray. He comes flying down the temple shaft, and lands in his very cool one-hand-down pose. Frost's henchman gets attitude, starts at Blade, saying, "Man, I'm gonna fuck you up this time." Blade nearly effortlessly cleaves him in half, the vamp disintegrates, leaving only Blade's stolen shades to come flying through the air back to him. Just then, the music starts to come up, but it's just a driving bass beat; the camera comes in on Blade, he puts on his sunglasses, and they hold the shot for longer than you'd expect. I never really noticed how long the shot was but I looked over at my wife and she was staring at the screen, bobbing back and forth with the beat. I know if I could look in her mind she was saying, "Oh, he's gonna kick some ass, Oh, he's gonna kick some ass." It was a really clever sort of suspense they were building, reinforced by the music. Of course, just then, the rest of the techno track comes on and he proceeds to moidelate scores of vampires. Well, there's none of that in the second movie. They have techno music, but it's a soundtrack, not an integral part of the work.

    The first movie was a comic book brilliantly translated to the screen. The second one looks like Quake translated to the screen. They even used yellow lens filters when the scenes were boring.

    To add insult to injury, Blade 2 was mostly ideas and scenes from Blade cut and paste all over the place, painted with the "genetic engineering is bad" brush. When they did the scenes in Blade they were fun and original. When they did them in Blade 2 they weren't.

    In Blade, the story starts in a slaughterhouse, where they're storing humans for food. They later mention there's a bloodbank in every city that's run by vamps. In Blade 2, the story starts in a boodbank that's run by vamps.

    In Blade, there's a scene in a vampire nightclub, which introduces to the vampire culture and with the bloodbath and the treatment of the human provides us with literary justification for what Blade's about to do. It's a techno club and Blade's fight is choreographed with the music.

    In Blade 2, there's a much larger club scene, but it has no significance, except to make the radio headsets hard for their users to understand.

    In Blade, when Blade is captured by the vampires, they drain his blood and are about to win because he's weakened. He gets some fresh blood from his lovely costar and saves the day. In Blade 2, when Blade is captured by the vampires, they drain his blood and are about to win because he's weakened. He gets some fresh blood from a giant pool of blood they have there for some reason. Just in case anyone was wondering, blood goes bad very quickly. That pool of blood probably costs several thousand dollars per hour to maintain.

    In Blade, Blade can spot a familiar a mile away. In Blade 2, he has a familiar infiltrate his organization. He claims to have known all along, In Blade, we learn familiars are marked by their masters so that if another vamp tries to drain him they know who they'll have to answer to. That's why they're marked on the back of the neck. In Blade 2, familiars are marked on their hands, on the inside of their lips, etc., apparently so the coroner can find it.

    In Blade, when Dragoneddi(sp?) is exposed to the sun, he falls apart in pain, then explodes like someone put a stick of dynamite where the moon don't shine. In Blade 2, when Blade's not-quite-love-interest is exposed to the sun, she blissfully melts away.

    The inconsistencies go on. It's not that they make the movie unenjoyable, rather they're symptomatic of the mediocre plat and general lack of creative effort that went into this film. The first movie was a triumph, this one is a Hollywood formula piece.

    And Whistler was annoying, for heaven's sake. That took some serious work.

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    1. Re:And this is a glowing review by Fjord · · Score: 1

      Quite an execellent and accurate review.

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    2. Re:And this is a glowing review by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Thanks - someone else thought it was 'overrated' at 3. Ah, well, they probably liked the movie and didn't like my disliking it. They'll get metamoderated.

      The hook in your .sig is intriguing, but the site says, 'access denied'. Is there an alternate location? Very conspiratorial... :)

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    3. Re:And this is a glowing review by Fjord · · Score: 1

      fuckola. Thanks for letting me know. The link it to my website which does a redirect because the actual link is to loong for the /. sig. It should be working now, but if it doesn't it's here.

      Conspiratorial is the fact that I only saw this in foreign news (the star is Canadian).

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  146. Mod this up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    This is a completely appropriate review for a movie of this type.

    Actually, there should be a moderation type where the comment could replace the article. If there was, this should be the one.

    The guy that posted the original review is a pretentious tool.

    Bravo.

  147. Grim Fandango by Shade,+The · · Score: 1

    Maybe they're fans of Lucasarts adventure games ;)

  148. Blade III .. potential storyline by NeoCode · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, Del Toro and David Goyer (writer/producer) want to make a third movie where the premise is what the vampires have actually won and the humans are their food/slave etc.
    Personally, I'd like this team to come back for a third movie but not sure if I like the plot. But it'll sure as hell give them a chance to take the movie to a new level of gore and violence.

  149. Entertaining but not original by Michael_Jarvis · · Score: 1

    I found the movie entertaining, mostly for the fight scenes. The special effects were okay, but not original. The Reapers were obviously influenced by the movies "Predator" and "Alien". If you've seen Blade II you will know what I mean. :-)

  150. my biggest "reality" problem by Magius_AR · · Score: 1
    One light grenade fills a room... Several dozen light grenades somehow expand to fill an entire sewer system. Unless UV light gained some weird new gas-like qualities, come on!

    Magius_AR

  151. The best thing about blade is ... by Gricey · · Score: 1
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  152. Re:Jews Had To Be Good For Something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i dont get it...whats the point of this story again?

  153. to those who say 'what did you want from this?' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I saw a lot of comments to the effect of "Didn't you see the first blade? It's a comic book! What did you expect?"

    Well, what I expected and what I wanted were different. What I wanted was not "Blade II", but "Return of the Blood God". Stephen Dorf aka Deacon Frost was so so super cool. Westley Snipes could kick my ass, but that doesn't mean he doesn't suck. I was suprised that I liked Blade - after all it's got W.S. in it. But DAMN Frost was the coolest bad guy I've ever seen. He just ruled. "Look at you, Blade. You're a whiney little bitch."

    Why couldn't Frost have come back and kicked Blade around like the nancy little bitch that he is? Hell, if Whistler can do it... They could at least write a new bad-guy as cool as the old one.

  154. give me a break by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First off, Blade is based on a comic book. Going to the movie and not expecting some form of cheese. I like going to a Godzilla movie and expecting shakespearian acting. You ain't getting it.
    But that said, Blade was a great action movie. Though I must say that maybe they should have appended "Vampire Smackdown" to the title due to the wrestling moves used by some of the characters. Can you say the peoples elbow?
    LOL

  155. Please don't let this guy review Spiderman... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...or we'll have 4 paragraphs on the totally unrealistic physics of the Green Goblin's flying wing in a movie based on the premise that a human's magic hollywood-style DNA can somehow be merged with a spider's.

    This is the guy I stopped inviting along on movie excursions a long time ago... you can only hiss out of the corner of your mouth: "shut up dude it's only a movie!" so many times, in response to his usually very audible righteous indignation at scientific innacurracy or weaker plot devices.

    1. Re:Please don't let this guy review Spiderman... by samhart · · Score: 1

      Plus, let's not forget that this movie (and the first) were also based on a very good comic book (one of the last good ones Marvel had, IMHO, some ten years ago) as well as some funky 70s ones... So let's cut it some slack and see how true it comes to the original books.

      First of all, as far is I can recall Whistler was a vampire in the original book (at least, if he wasn't, there was some other dude helping Blade out who was). Second of all, there was something like the BloodPack in the original series (there were even other things like the "Midnight Sons" and the "League of Darkness" and stuff like that).

      I guess what I'm trying to say is, the most important thing (IMHO) is to be true to the comic book that spawned it (like Batman Forever, but not like Batman Returns). If the movie-maker can do that, who cares what some dork who never read the comic and never cared about it before thinks.

  156. What he should have been expecting.... by Stoutlimb · · Score: 2

    Was a sequel to BLADE.

    I agree with you, that in the context of the origial, it was very good. Blade sees his vampire part in a slightly different light, because of that vampire chick who had the hot ass. Character development.

    There was a bit of discontinuity between the original and the sequel, but that's easy to dismiss with a bit of suspension of disbelief. Blade's partner shot himself but Blade didn't see. Or did a vampire sneak out of the shadows, take the gun away, and just shoot it in the air? The area WAS crawling with vampires after all.

    Blade suddenly being rich... he DID kick the ass of some seriously rich vampires in the previous movie. We can only assume that his scrounging really paid off. Not a far-off assumption, all things considered.

  157. Less Acting. More Whoopin'. Aww YEA! by valmont · · Score: 2
    What frustrated me in the first movie was Wesley Snipes in an intendedly tear-jerking soliloque telling that doctor he had rescued, the mysterious tale of his deeply tormented life, in a blatantly failed attempt to draw you into the character and offer some sort of unique insight into his "complex psyche". Had to love this quote "you have no idea ... what it's like ... to be me ... *deep, tormented look*".

    This was just an example. There were a few other similar scenes.

    FORGET THAT. Get to the ass-whoopin' already.

    Blade 2 fixed that. Less plot. Less dialogs. A couple good lines ("You ... do not ... KNOW ... who you ARE ... MESSING WITH !@(#") ("..OOOoooohh"). And more action. This was the whole reason why i went to see the movie. I wanted to see Snipes kick ass.

    Oh yeah and also they introduced a hot vampire chick. Dark, mysterious, tight-fitted outfit, just like Trinity in the Matrix. mm-mmMM. Add some subtle erotism with blood-sucking action between Blade and Nisa. Most definetly gratifying. The first movie had no good lookin' chick whatsoever.

    What I did like about the story, was Blade getting in closer touch with his vampire-side, partly thru unspoken romance/understanding with the vampire chick. I found this to be far more effective to show conflicts within Blade, than long-strung dialogs from the first movie. Blade is a man of action. not words. Whose ass he kicks and the manner in which he does it defines his relationship or attachment to other characters.

    Anyway. I'm a happy camper. Go Blade :)

  158. Got to agree, it was bad by greydmiyu · · Score: 1

    The story was weaker than the original Blade, the fight scenes were poorly coreographed and shot, the use of CG in the fight scenes was so glaringly obvious that it was jarring and painful to see. I mean, c'mon, we get some decent moves from Snipes and others only to have a CG move thrown in where the character looks too think, moves at 1.5-2x the speed of the rest of the fight and pathetic pathing to boot! Also the fights were shot poorly. I know Snipes practices martial arts. He can hold his own in a coreographed fight. So pull back and let the audience see what is going on instead of having poor in close or back shots. On top of all that can anyone take any fight scene which tries to seriously incorporate moves from the WWF? We get a full suplex from Blade, Nomak doing an elbow drop from the "corner of the ring" and other such cliche'd moves. Don't even get me started on the pathetic attempt on a bait 'n switch on who was the snitch. Came out of the blue, they set up what could be an interesting situation, then close that loop of 2 minutes later! They could have left it out and changed absolutely nothing. Of course it should have been expected when they wiped away the events of the first movie as an inconvenience.

    The only good parts of the movie, really, are the interactions between Whistler (Kris Kristoffersen) and Reinhardt (Ron Perlman). In fact I was delighed to see Ron Perlman get a prominant role after he was pidgeon-holed as the Beast.

    Is it worth seeing? Only if you're a huge fan of the comic or the first movie. Is it worth seeing again? No. Is it close to the original at all? Not at all. Hopefully the mistakes this movie has will be learned from.

    A lot of people have been comparing this to Resident Evil because of the similar target audience and the fact they were released a week apart. I saw Resident Evil two days before seeing Blade II. So here's my pocket review. Resident Evil had a stronger plot, stronger story, stronger direction, was scarier, far more entertaining and the action sequences were well done and well shot. Of the two I'd tell people to see Resident Evil in the theater as they'd miss something not seeing it in a crowd of people.

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  159. Better link... by tm1rules · · Score: 1

    Better link.

  160. Re:Jews Had To Be Good For Something by riant · · Score: 1

    Funny, that's how I'd act towards rednecks if I were just as stupid as you.

  161. Blade II by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having read all 351 comments, I'm shocked that no one mentioned the simply incredible effects! The 'Reaper' mouths were fantastic! The CGI in Blade II surpassed any I have seen to date! The plot may be weak and full of holes, but good g*d - the special effects left me weak in the knees. If you see this film, see it for the amazing animation and phenomenal gore.

  162. Blade 2 was good by Spirit+of+Vengeance · · Score: 1

    First if you expect a really coherent and sensible plot from a comic book based movie, go watch the first Micheal Keaton Batman movie or Superman 2. Those are the only ones yet that really ahd one at least as far as I'm concerned. Second: did you even watch the movie or the first one? Blade became what he is because his mother was bitten WHILE she was pregnant with him! He got the vampire "virus" at the genetic level and thus is a dunpeal, half man half vampire. IT's also not out of hte question that Blade hauled his gear and sidekick across the ocean. Blade also began getting his weapons in abundance after he joined the vampire nation to hunt the Reapers. Whistler's return...ah nothing like comic book resurrections. While I'm glad he was back, he should have been left dead. Overall if you want to see a good action flick go see Blade 2. If you are expecting a solid plot, go watch somethign else. As to the UV bombs that bend light when they explode....well that's sci-fi for you, anything goes in sci-fi!

  163. My Blade II Review by svanegmond · · Score: 0

    (from eye.net/film/, only without the mangling

    I didn't enjoy this movie all that much. Blade 1 was one hell of a ride, lots of fun, well-paced, interesting stuff. This one mixed in a few things that I think didn't belong:

    1. Aliens-style gore and guts. Dragged out autopsies, split-open heads, busted bones poking out of flesh, long drawn-out shots of the Bad Guys' pretty faces.

    2. Over-the-top computer-generated camera swooping and panning during the fights. This wouldn't be so bad if it didn't look fricking awful: watch the fight in front of the lights, or the last, wrestling-match style fight ("off the turnbuckle, with a knee to the throat. ooh, piledriver? but he got up before the ref could count to three!")

    3. Too many non-character good guys. Blade's posse was supposed to have trained for two years. This should make them hardasses. But no, half of them are pathetic pussies. For instance, watch the redhead. She'll have one situation come up that just demands action, and she'll flake out. I guess they couldn't give her a redshirt, coz it'd clash with the black colour scheme. So many of them die in so many sad and stupid ways, that I wonder why the filmmakers even bothered to introduce us to them. Oh, I know, to drag out the awful yuck of watching them get killed in horrible ways by The Bad Guys.

    4. Ultraviolet light does not go around corners. I laughed out loud when I saw that.

    5. The filmmakers blow their load early. Yes, it's nice to have one "wow" scene at the beginning that grabs your attention: Strange Days, Matrix, and Snake Eyes got this right. This movie drags it on, and gives you 2 extra ones on top.

    6. Dialog that can be summarized as "I know." "I know that you know." "I know that you knew that I know that you'd suspect that I wondered about where you really knew that I was sure about that thing." "Bang, you're dead." can never be a good thing.

    Just these superficial flaws made the movie really hard to enjoy. The Matrix comparisons are unjustified.

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  164. Re:SPOILER ALERT. Plot discussed by Fjord · · Score: 1

    The opening club sequence from the first movie was far more artistic and gory than the safe house club sequence. In the first movie you don't know what's going on and all of a sudden blood start spraying from the sprinklers, the vampire start going nuts, and then Blade shows up. In that opening sequence alone he killed more people than in all of Blade II. That scene rocked, and will always rock. The safe house was a good plot development, but it didn't rock.

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  165. Blade II by BazzaH3 · · Score: 1

    I think Alot about this movie seemed...oh i dunno rushed ? However I dont think the story was that bad i mean sure there were a whole hell of a lot of corny names ( skud ) but other than that i dont think it was so horrible.

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  166. Concept Art by Niherlas · · Score: 1

    Interesting to note is the concept art and storyboarding for Blade II, some of which is available at the Blade 2 website. A lot of work was done by Mike Mignola (best known for his Hellboy comics, but also one of the big concept artists behind Disney's animated Atlantis), some creature design was done by Wayne Barlow, and characters such as Reinhart and Lighthammer were done by Tim Bradstreet.

    Blade II had a lot of very interested potential that, unfortunately, wasn't realized (in favor of some way-over-the-top computer-enhanced fight scenes). Sad to see this concept work go to waste - I'd almost be interested in an "Art Of" book, based on some of the sketchs and artwork available on the website.

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