I live, 35.4 mi - about 1 hour, from Google's headquarters in Mountain View. The best I can get is ISDN. No Cable/DSL is available. Nor will the phone company install a T1 to our house. I feel your pain. If you live in the thick of it, you can get broadband, step away form the city and it's back to dial-up.
Wine should be able to take care of those odd applications you can't migrate to the web or find replacements for under linux =). Games don't count, were talking about using computers for education here.
I'm american and I can't get broadband where I live, isdn is it (pay in 15min increments = very expensive) or dialup. There are still a lot of places that are too far away for dsl and don't have cable. Other options are satellite internet but it's not a very good option eiher because of the high cost. $60/mo for 700 Kbps/128 Kbps. I want fast internet but can't get it where I live. The funny thing is, I only live 30 miles from Santa Clara, CA (the silicon vally).
In addition to producing tephra, magmatic eruptions of Mt. Rainier can produce lava flows or pyroclastic flows (fast-moving, hot, lethal avalanches of volcanic fragments and gas). The direct effects of such flows are to be expected on and near the steep flanks of Mt. Rainier, largely within the boundaries of Mt. Rainier National Park.
Much more far-reaching destruction can result from lahars that originate at Mt. Rainier. Deposits of at least 55 lahars within the last 10,000 years have been identified in the large valleys draining Mt. Rainier.
Lahars look and behave like flowing wet concrete owing to their characteristically high concentration of entrained sediment (commonly less than or equal to 60 volume percent). Because they are gravity flows, they become channeled into valleys. Led by a steep front charged with boulders, logs and any other available debris, they quickly fill pre-existing channels and spread across the adjacent flood plains, destroying mature forests and any human-made structures in their paths, including bridges, dams, roads, pipelines and buildings.
The depth and speed of a lahar depend on its size, its sediment concentration and the valley configuration. At Mt. Rainier, most of the large lahars are inferred to have traveled as fast as 50 miles/hr at depths of 100 ft or more in confined valleys and at a lower velocity and lesser depth in the wide, populated valleys of the Puget Lowland. For example, remnant valley-wall deposits indicate that the Electron lahar was approximately 50 ft deep in its passage through the mile-wide Puyallup valley 1 1/4 miles upstream from Orting. However, the Electron lahar was about 180 ft deep 6 miles farther upstream, where the main part of the canyon is only about 1/4 miles wide.
A critical implication from a hazard-mitigation standpoint is that a massive lahar from Mt. Rainier may occur without the kinds of warning usually associated with an impending eruption.
One much larger, post glacial, flank-collapse lahar has been identified. Known as the Osceola Mudflow, it occurred about 5,600 years ago and was between 10 and 20 times the volume of the Electron lahar. It originated as a massive collapse of Mt. Rainier's summit and upper northeast flank. The Osceola Mudflow filled valleys of the White River system north and northeast of Mt. Rainier, covered more than 80 sq. mi. of the Puget Lowland, and extended into Puget Sound from what are now the Puyallup and Duwamish River valleys. Considered as "worst-case" or "maximum lahar" (only one lahar of this size is known to have occurred in 10,000 years), lahars of this magnitude have been assigned a recurrence interval of 10,000 years.
The bottom of the case could be insulated. My idea was to dissapte heat off the back of the display, the part up in the air, not on your legs, unless you use your laptop in a very stange way, but i don't think I want to know about that.
Apple is not affraid of strange looking computers, so why not a pure copper case for the laptop. Heatpipes could dissipate heat off the back of the display from the CPU. I think a copper mac would be cool looking too, especially after it started to oxidize and turn green.
"The Kaleidescape Server can serve multiple movies simultaneously to Kaleidescape Movie Players throughout the home. The components interconnect over standard CAT 5 Ethernet cabling." throughout the home, or the internet
Stick this puppy in school or something.. sheesh or better yet on the internet. Thats why they are getting sued.
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Re:ADHD is not as funny as you jerks think it is.
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Everyone does.. the sucky thing about adhd is not being able to concentrate on things that you love and are intested in even when you want to. Like your spouse.
I can hyper focus on some things. Others like reading most fiction puts me to sleep.. though some books I read all the way nonstop. I have several hundred books on programming, math and science.
Lots of strange things drive me up the wall. Mostly repetitive noises.
I get so worked up sometimes I just have to go outside and run around as fast as I can to phisically exaust myself. Like I will be trying to sleep and laying still is painfull I HAVE to move.
When I can't sleep I drink a cup of coffee, my brain mellows out and I fall asleep. I have ADHD and OCD.
When I was younger I did very poorly in school. I got distracted and caused a lot of problems because I couldn't sit still. They wanted to put me on ritalin. My parents said no way and opted for putting my in a special class for kids with this kind of disorder. More individual attention, work at your own pace etc., worked great for me.
Sometimes I can't concentrate on anything for more then 10-15 mins at a time so I get five or six things together I want to get done and work on them all at once. When I get bored or stuck with one I move to the other. Thank god for multi-tasking os's. Other times I can hyperfocus on somthing. spend 20 hours strait working on one thing. Life has always been strange for me, I definately am not normal. I still can't sleep worth a damn.
The bottom line for me is I want to stay off perscription meds. I prefer to find more natural ways to cope.
Aren't laws the wishes of the people. If all the people say downloading copyrighted material is legal then is it not then legal? For that matter if all the people came together and said copyrights no longer exist, do they then not exist?
I agree, I don't think this is an invasion of privacy, and after reading all these posts.. the general concensis is that it is your right to drive a car. That is far from the truth. You are allowed to drive a car after you have been tested for the ability to drive a car and issued a licence. You are a heavy machinery operator. This machinery has the potential to kill and mame. I see nothing wrong with installing equipment to ensure that you are responsible with said machinery. Though if the driving tests were harder that would help also. If every car manufactured had equipment that recorded aspects of the vehicles operation, I think people would be much more carefull in the way they drive. It is understandable that there are times you will speed. But if you are consistantly exceeding 80MPH on your way to work through a school zone, you should lose your licence. And gee ever think that maybe putting some electronics in cars to make people behave theselve we wouldn't need all these traffic cops. Our tax dollers could be spent on usefull things like the war on terror and universal health care for Iraq. Although that would put all the dog nut shops out of business.
When I think of sytems with more then 2 cpu's I think if them being used for scientific applications where you are working with a large problem set.
I agree that from a typical desktop users perspective having 1 fast cpu is probably the best way to go for price vs. performance. When you step up to a dual cpu system you will not really notice it untill you run a cpu intensive application. I noticed this when running Linux or Windows on a dual system. The system doesn't bog down when it would on a single cpu. This is nice, though when you go to 4 or more cpu's the advantage is lost unless your application is multithreaded.
For a server the more cpu's to send processes too the better. But in this instance cost vs. performace will have you at a cluster of single or dual systems.
Now for large problem sets, the more cpu's, cache, and ram you have available the better off your going to be. Clusters are still great for this. But when speed counts, go local. Sharing memory over a network is much slower then locally accessable ram. A comment mentioned sgi NUMAlink, this is a very fast interconnect (sgi says, "Data crosses over an sgi NUMAlink switch, round-trip, in as little as 50 nanoseconds"). When compared to ram latencys this is molasses. Now I'm not talking about putting 256 cpu's on one board, sgi's approch is fine for that high of a cpu population.
From a few months spent with a 12cpu sgi, the onle application I ever ran that touched its performance capabilities was the jello simulation. It could max 11 cpu's, one would always be under-utilized for the sys processes. Other then that it just ran as much stuff as you could possibly want at once. I had yet discoverd the joys of scientific computing when I had access to this system and would love to be able to program on something like it.
What I want is to be able to chose from a couple of different vendors a 4-8-16 cpu MB line. This is not really an option today without getting a very expensive system. Intel offers 16 way MB's. I know of none others, although I havn't looked very hard. I know nothing exists for AMD.
This is still not going to be cost effective but sometimes you need the speed and it would be nice to be able to build a system cheaper then the house to put it in.
In any case having more cache is usefull. Also you will not really take advantage of large cache size untill you program specifically for it and most likely a specific problem set.
I also agree that is is not cost effective to make these kind of systems in mass, but it would be nice to have an off the shelf solution.
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I like numbers =) here are some more, same Win 7 box as before, Chrome 9 really screams.
17364 (866, 143, 12033) - Chrome 9.0.597.19 beta / safari 534.13
9256 (551, 43, 5634) - Firefox 4.0b8 / mozilla 2.0b8
4374 (170, 6, 4118) - IE 9.0.7930.16406 64bit / msie 9.0
Win 7 64bit AMD 965 oc 4.0GHz 8GBram (nvidia 295):
13809 (762, 108, 8631) - Chrome 8.0.552.224 / safari 534.10
13061 (750, 45, 8550) - Opera 11 build 1156 / opera 11.00
12924 (703, 68, 8678) - Safari 5.0 (7533.16) / safari 533.16
8429 (495, 37, 5256) - Firefox 3.6.13 / mozilla 1.9.2.13
2873 (123, 5, 2533) - IE 8.0.7600.16385 64bit / msie 8.0
2855 (123, 5, 2505) - IE 8.0.7600.16385 32bit / msie 8.0
Win XP AMD 940 3GHz 2.75GBram:
12130 (748, 35, 7320) - Opera 11 build 1156 / opera 11.00
11860 (662, 72, 7596) - Chrome 8.0.552.224 / safari 534.10
8621 (392, 51, 6780) - Safari 5.0.3 (7533.19.4) / safari 533.19.4
7093 (435, 28, 4209) - Firefox 3.6.12 / mozilla 1.9.2.12
2098 (114, 2, 1537) - IE 8.0.6001.18702 / msie 8.0
iPad 16gb wifi:
2756 (177, 3, 1635) - safari 531.21.10
iPhone 3Gs:
1980 (119, 2, 1290) - safari 528.18
I live, 35.4 mi - about 1 hour, from Google's headquarters in Mountain View. The best I can get is ISDN. No Cable/DSL is available. Nor will the phone company install a T1 to our house. I feel your pain. If you live in the thick of it, you can get broadband, step away form the city and it's back to dial-up.
Wine should be able to take care of those odd applications you can't migrate to the web or find replacements for under linux =). Games don't count, were talking about using computers for education here.
I'm american and I can't get broadband where I live, isdn is it (pay in 15min increments = very expensive) or dialup. There are still a lot of places that are too far away for dsl and don't have cable. Other options are satellite internet but it's not a very good option eiher because of the high cost. $60/mo for 700 Kbps/128 Kbps. I want fast internet but can't get it where I live. The funny thing is, I only live 30 miles from Santa Clara, CA (the silicon vally).
Keep in mind that Mt. Rainier is covered with glaciers and would cause massive mud slides if it erupted.
m /E MDiv/Mt%20Rainier%20VHRP.htm
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/text/abtus/ourorg/de
In addition to producing tephra, magmatic eruptions of Mt. Rainier can produce lava flows or pyroclastic flows (fast-moving, hot, lethal avalanches of volcanic fragments and gas). The direct effects of such flows are to be expected on and near the steep flanks of Mt. Rainier, largely within the boundaries of Mt. Rainier National Park.
Much more far-reaching destruction can result from lahars that originate at Mt. Rainier. Deposits of at least 55 lahars within the last 10,000 years have been identified in the large valleys draining Mt. Rainier.
Lahars look and behave like flowing wet concrete owing to their characteristically high concentration of entrained sediment (commonly less than or equal to 60 volume percent). Because they are gravity flows, they become channeled into valleys. Led by a steep front charged with boulders, logs and any other available debris, they quickly fill pre-existing channels and spread across the adjacent flood plains, destroying mature forests and any human-made structures in their paths, including bridges, dams, roads, pipelines and buildings.
The depth and speed of a lahar depend on its size, its sediment concentration and the valley configuration. At Mt. Rainier, most of the large lahars are inferred to have traveled as fast as 50 miles/hr at depths of 100 ft or more in confined valleys and at a lower velocity and lesser depth in the wide, populated valleys of the Puget Lowland. For example, remnant valley-wall deposits indicate that the Electron lahar was approximately 50 ft deep in its passage through the mile-wide Puyallup valley 1 1/4 miles upstream from Orting. However, the Electron lahar was about 180 ft deep 6 miles farther upstream, where the main part of the canyon is only about 1/4 miles wide.
A critical implication from a hazard-mitigation standpoint is that a massive lahar from Mt. Rainier may occur without the kinds of warning usually associated with an impending eruption.
One much larger, post glacial, flank-collapse lahar has been identified. Known as the Osceola Mudflow, it occurred about 5,600 years ago and was between 10 and 20 times the volume of the Electron lahar. It originated as a massive collapse of Mt. Rainier's summit and upper northeast flank. The Osceola Mudflow filled valleys of the White River system north and northeast of Mt. Rainier, covered more than 80 sq. mi. of the Puget Lowland, and extended into Puget Sound from what are now the Puyallup and Duwamish River valleys. Considered as "worst-case" or "maximum lahar" (only one lahar of this size is known to have occurred in 10,000 years), lahars of this magnitude have been assigned a recurrence interval of 10,000 years.
The bottom of the case could be insulated. My idea was to dissapte heat off the back of the display, the part up in the air, not on your legs, unless you use your laptop in a very stange way, but i don't think I want to know about that.
Apple is not affraid of strange looking computers, so why not a pure copper case for the laptop. Heatpipes could dissipate heat off the back of the display from the CPU. I think a copper mac would be cool looking too, especially after it started to oxidize and turn green.
VPN
I would be more worried about...
"The Kaleidescape Server can serve multiple movies simultaneously to Kaleidescape Movie Players throughout the home. The components interconnect over standard CAT 5 Ethernet cabling." throughout the home, or the internet
Stick this puppy in school or something.. sheesh or better yet on the internet. Thats why they are getting sued.
How long till one of those tree hugging hacker hippies from Berkeley finds a way to DOS the woods rendering the whole project useless.
A permanent magnet and a coil attached to the ball, essentially a speaker, would work fine. Getting 30-60Hz outa it would be easy.
45 bytes x how ever many millions of times that image is sent.. it adds up
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Everyone does.. the sucky thing about adhd is not being able to concentrate on things that you love and are intested in even when you want to. Like your spouse.
Shit I'm damned near always on all of them.
Yes yes yes!!! all of the above..
been tested many times.. high IQ.
Am always bored and distracted.
I can hyper focus on some things. Others like reading most fiction puts me to sleep.. though some books I read all the way nonstop. I have several hundred books on programming, math and science.
Lots of strange things drive me up the wall. Mostly repetitive noises.
I get so worked up sometimes I just have to go outside and run around as fast as I can to phisically exaust myself. Like I will be trying to sleep and laying still is painfull I HAVE to move.
-Fox
When I can't sleep I drink a cup of coffee, my brain mellows out and I fall asleep. I have ADHD and OCD.
When I was younger I did very poorly in school. I got distracted and caused a lot of problems because I couldn't sit still. They wanted to put me on ritalin. My parents said no way and opted for putting my in a special class for kids with this kind of disorder. More individual attention, work at your own pace etc., worked great for me.
Sometimes I can't concentrate on anything for more then 10-15 mins at a time so I get five or six things together I want to get done and work on them all at once. When I get bored or stuck with one I move to the other. Thank god for multi-tasking os's. Other times I can hyperfocus on somthing. spend 20 hours strait working on one thing. Life has always been strange for me, I definately am not normal. I still can't sleep worth a damn.
The bottom line for me is I want to stay off perscription meds. I prefer to find more natural ways to cope.
-Fox
Aren't laws the wishes of the people. If all the people say downloading copyrighted material is legal then is it not then legal? For that matter if all the people came together and said copyrights no longer exist, do they then not exist?
I agree, I don't think this is an invasion of privacy, and after reading all these posts.. the general concensis is that it is your right to drive a car. That is far from the truth. You are allowed to drive a car after you have been tested for the ability to drive a car and issued a licence. You are a heavy machinery operator. This machinery has the potential to kill and mame. I see nothing wrong with installing equipment to ensure that you are responsible with said machinery. Though if the driving tests were harder that would help also. If every car manufactured had equipment that recorded aspects of the vehicles operation, I think people would be much more carefull in the way they drive. It is understandable that there are times you will speed. But if you are consistantly exceeding 80MPH on your way to work through a school zone, you should lose your licence. And gee ever think that maybe putting some electronics in cars to make people behave theselve we wouldn't need all these traffic cops. Our tax dollers could be spent on usefull things like the war on terror and universal health care for Iraq. Although that would put all the dog nut shops out of business.
$.01++ Fox
When I think of sytems with more then 2 cpu's I think if them being used for scientific applications where you are working with a large problem set.
I agree that from a typical desktop users perspective having 1 fast cpu is probably the best way to go for price vs. performance. When you step up to a dual cpu system you will not really notice it untill you run a cpu intensive application. I noticed this when running Linux or Windows on a dual system. The system doesn't bog down when it would on a single cpu. This is nice, though when you go to 4 or more cpu's the advantage is lost unless your application is multithreaded.
For a server the more cpu's to send processes too the better. But in this instance cost vs. performace will have you at a cluster of single or dual systems.
Now for large problem sets, the more cpu's, cache, and ram you have available the better off your going to be. Clusters are still great for this. But when speed counts, go local. Sharing memory over a network is much slower then locally accessable ram. A comment mentioned sgi NUMAlink, this is a very fast interconnect (sgi says, "Data crosses over an sgi NUMAlink switch, round-trip, in as little as 50 nanoseconds"). When compared to ram latencys this is molasses. Now I'm not talking about putting 256 cpu's on one board, sgi's approch is fine for that high of a cpu population.
From a few months spent with a 12cpu sgi, the onle application I ever ran that touched its performance capabilities was the jello simulation. It could max 11 cpu's, one would always be under-utilized for the sys processes. Other then that it just ran as much stuff as you could possibly want at once. I had yet discoverd the joys of scientific computing when I had access to this system and would love to be able to program on something like it.
What I want is to be able to chose from a couple of different vendors a 4-8-16 cpu MB line. This is not really an option today without getting a very expensive system. Intel offers 16 way MB's. I know of none others, although I havn't looked very hard. I know nothing exists for AMD.
This is still not going to be cost effective but sometimes you need the speed and it would be nice to be able to build a system cheaper then the house to put it in.
Your cache percentages are way off, this is just splitting hairs but 64K starts at around .25% according to this from 96..
Cache Latency and Out of Order Execution
In any case having more cache is usefull. Also you will not really take advantage of large cache size untill you program specifically for it and most likely a specific problem set.
I also agree that is is not cost effective to make these kind of systems in mass, but it would be nice to have an off the shelf solution.
I want 16cpu MB with 8MB cache per chip damnit!
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I would be nice to use if you are 12, have small hands and rich parents.