One thing all the media hype fails to really point out, is that this is a first for self-sustaining floating platforms. The potential for a massive, relatively heavy platform that can 'float freely' in the air is really an untapped medium for commercial applications of all types.
And not to sound too, "one day we'll all be driving clean, fuel efficient nuclear cars" -- but once you can place very large turbines at the altitude where massive amounts of air are moving - it isn't going to be too far fetched to see some engineers and dreamers trying to correct CO2, Ozone, and general pollution problems using similar technology.
I remember reading, way way back about how "We can't just release Ozone from airplanes because it would take too many flights and airplanes don't fly at a high enough altitude". Imagine now if you could have a mini-power station, on a massive air-born platform generating and spewing out ozone.
My big question is, how will these tethered 'generating stations' handle the power differential between those high up clouds and the earth. It seems like they're focusing right now on 'generated electricity' without considering the inevitable (and potentially valuable) power spikes they will get from charged clouds and air-current, traveling down that tether.
Another question would be, theoretically speaking - if we had tonnes of these things floating high above the earth, would lightening discharges diminish - and then, would ozone creation actually diminish? I think the potential here could be a very hot topic for engineers for decades to come.
I'm sort of surprised that hasselhoff himself isn't buying the car.
I know he really hated that show near the end, and after it was canceled he started referring to his 'gigs' showing up with the car as 'the dog and pony show'. Still though, how funny would it be to throw on a leather jacket and go cruising in your old talking car?
He might not get the babes, but what cop in his right mind would give him a speeding ticket? He's the KnightRider!
Watch them put together their first prototype crystal radio with their new 'filter' and find an entire cosmos of alien phone calls, television broadcasts and quasar's giving off travel-instructions to nearby ships.
Some people here have said, this is very old news and the article is the equivalent of saying, 'one day railroad lines will cover this great country of ours' -- but seriously, how many average people - like myself, are aware that we're still not using the full EM spectrum available to us. I thought we conquered radio waves in the 50s and everything since then has just been 'computing speed'. I think this is pretty interesting.
It will be cool to see what new forms of cancer and mental disease equipment broadcasting in this spectrum doesn't cause.
I've said this about 40 times in other threads on microsoft cracking down on piracy, or implementing some ridiculous piracy protection scheme. They want you to pay for your software, and barring that - they want you to use their software for free.
A long time ago a small, nobody 'heavy metal' rock group made a recording of their 'jam sessions', labelled it 'garage days' and told people to distribute it like crazy. copy copy copy - give it out for free. They're now known as metallica, the clueless sods chasing down music pirates and doing horrible PR campaigns against Napster.
Microsoft is exactly the same. If they weren't the #1 operating system in the world, do you think they could attempt to charge such ridiculous prices for software and 'require' that you purchase a new computer every three years? Not likely.
I hope people quote this article from now on, every single time microsoft fucks over their customer base and tries to claim they're 'losing money' from piracy. What a joke.
The slashdot write-up doesn't seem to make a lot of sense on the surface, but I think this is a reasonable observation. It's not that having a computer-science degree is useless, but in the past everybody was getting their degree to head the development of major, proprietary software packages for companies. Packages that handled customer relationship management, accounting, shipping receiving, etc. And every week there would be a meeting of the office dullards with some new 'idea' on how to improve things, ultimately requiring another development project.
Cut to today where most companies rely on the software packages of only a few developers, like goldmine, microsoft office, whatever -- you've cut out the need for computer science degree's in all but a small handful of successful companies.
Someone commented in this thread, "And where do these software packages come from?" -- they come from computer science degree's. About 5. 5 dime a dozen computer science degree's. And where do they come from next year? The same company ; meaning they can cut-out 4 of those computer science degrees and keep 1 for maintenance.
This is an oversimplified explanation of software in general, but it's fairly accurate. I'm in the middle of porting a visual-basic application to a web based PHP application for a Toronto, Ontario based company. The VB application might have required a CS degree, but it also cost $15,000 to produce. My web based version on a bad day won't go over $3000 to produce, and I'll be paid well for what I'm doing.
When languages keep getting higher level you cut the 'degree' out of the equation completely. University (in canada) and ivy-league colleges (in the states) focus on calculating cpu-cycles and low level mechanics of development. PHP focuses on asking a computer to do something in plain english. Community college is about all you need for that ; or in the case of most slashdotters - common sense.
Watch out for the techno-gang! At least he didn't use the word 'thugs' to legitimize their ridiculous waste of money on sort-of slowing down the completely victimless crime the 'gang' was committing. Would anybody cheer if they arrested Coca-Cola shareholders for competing with Pepsi? Because this is essentially major tax money going to 'protect' the rights of very very big business, and nothing else.
Do you think the FBI would start a case on somebody pirating Forest Blog ? Because that's what they should be doing. If it's about rights and freedom's being protected, make a point of protecting the little guy for once. Just once. After all, they're the ones paying your salaries. You think Microsoft is paying 50% of it's income to taxes?
It would be nice if the article actually identified why these patterns have to be based on a complicated mathematical principle, and if they're not - how they could have been made and still represent that mathematical principle. According to the article, the patterns aren't even exact but quasi-crystalline-structures.
I can do a quasi-fractal-pattern by accident if I have enough time to create random patterns, like say an entire country's worth of structures covered in patterns.
Can some statistics-guru figure out the odds of this being a random accident, considering how few examples they have, and how the examples aren't even exact representations of the mysterious mathematical formula(s) they mention? I really don't get why this is believable based on the article.
I'm so sick of all the left-wing zealots going crazy over news like this.
Global Warming is a simple, natural phenomenon whereby the planet destroys a large percentage of it's population - including humanity, and then starts over again.
Just so everybody knows, this story does have a happy ending. The MPAA responded, finally, to his inquiries after a very long wait - by saying essentially that they were only using his software for 'testing' purposes and that the offending site was never made live, advertised on the internet etc.
The Forest Blog Author retorted, in his update to this story, that he doubts they would have been so kind if he 'borrowed' some movies for 'testing' purposes but never distributed them to anybody. He makes a valid point.
The entire trial over those dvd-codec software coders was based on them 'circumventing' a DVD's protection mechanism - it had nothing to do with them actually committing piracy, and were it not for the Digitial Millenium Copyright Act the MPAA would have had no case at all. Essentially they sued and won, establishing for the first time in history that you can purchase intellectual property but essentially not have ownership of the rights to even use it, however you see fit.
Remember that all laws previous to the DMCA were to protect against piracy, (bootlegging, distribution, etc). But now the DMCA actually limits your freedom of use, even for personal use. And it's been proven. If they can do that, why can they abuse fair-use of software they essentially got just by agreeing to it's terms of use?
I say he still send his case to the EFF and hope that they can use something in this as ammunition against the MPAA.
I don't think I can remember fruits and vegetables ever tasting so horrible as they do now. Strawberries and Tomato's that split before fully-ripe, have almost no flavour what-so-ever (if anything they both taste like the white-tasteless-heart of a strawberry) -- and generally don't cost any damned less than they would have with inflation from the 1980's. Organic foods just cost _more_ than they ever have, and now have a fancy name. Surprise! They were always organic! You shouldn't have to search for it.
GM foods make money for the large corporations that grow them, the same companies that have put every decent farmer out of business. It's not like GM foods are necessary to 'feed our planet' or whatever their marketing slant is -- do you think they now grow too much and ship the excess off to africa? yeah... I didn't think so either.
The most common GM chickens hardly have any flavour, and nobody that grows or markets them even disputes that. They will tell you flat-out they just grow-faster. That's the attraction. From now on, I'm growing all of my own fruits and vegetables and at least a significant portion of my livestock.
I've already had cancer once, why even take the risk. Why take the risk of any adverse side effects that is very real with any GM food. You don't have to be a scientist to know it's a bad idea, they do it because it makes money - not because it's healthier, or tastes better. What the hell do they care about your health?
The article mentions that potential 'threat asteroids' are being tracked, and hopefully all potential threats will soon be identified for closer observation.
I remember reading years ago on slashdot about a near-miss that occured during daylight hours, when a global-catastrophe sized asteroid approached earth from the sun and passed between the moon and earth. Does anybody remember this? And the asteroid wasn't even detected until it had already passed.
What about asteroids that can be slingshot from behind the sun, or elude detection as that one did (because the sun was in our eyes?). The article doesn't mention if there's always going to be an un-trackable region of space. Does anybody more versed in this know, with current technology and a little more time, will we really be able to track all potential, immediate threats?
My post was actually edited, I don't know how. I did put in an apostrophe, after the s - its' , which is a strange way i was taught to apostrophize possessive its'. Canadian English? Or a bad grade 1 teacher?
I made a mistake when I said it was discovered sometime in the 1970's. What I meant was, sometime in the 1970's the first few victims of the disease discovered they were deathly ill, and then died, after taking antibiotics and cold and flu medicine. Therefore, we have been fighting the disease since the first known infection and people 'discovered' it when they got it.
My write-up does imply it was 'identified by scientists' in the 1970's and that's not what I meant, but it was 4am.
It sounds ridiculous to say, "We tried penecilan against HIV and nothing happened!" - but that is what happened, and I'm not re-writing history.
Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not used by everybody else - making it legitimate. I can't stand when people use the singular form of 'beer' to express how many bottles of beer they've drunk. When it comes in units, the plural has an S.
I'm not running an apple ; mostly because I have a pc right here in front of me so why pay more money. But is there any reason now NOT to run an apple? Microsoft would have done better to not release vista ; they're ensuring people hate them and try the competition.
If I were a shareholder, i would sell sell sell.
I think it's a safe bet to say every shareholder should short-sell before every major release of windows. They do this every single time. Hype it up, stock goes up, release it, disappointing everyone, stock goes down, holding pattern, start all over again.
Citing recent sales numbers, local used car dealer frank "the lone testicle" johnson has declared that he is in fact the best car dealer in all of north america.
"It was a toss up between me and every single other person, that is until I decided on the criteria by which we were all graded.", said the lone testicle.
Some other sales people are confused by the unanimous victory, but have to admit that Johnson is the best at dealing cars he himself is authorized to sell - in all of north america. One of johnson's opponent dealerships claims, "He only gets those numbers because he's counting sales of the very rare 'Delorian' cars that he sells. Of course when they offered 2 delorians for sale this year, his numbers doubled and every single other dealer in north america that doesn't sell those got a zero on his rating scale."
Confused by semantics, my editor has decided to just give free publicity to Mr. Johnson because he came up with a self-fellating story that almost sounds legitimate. congratulations lone testicle, please take all of my readers and try to sell them your over-priced crap.
Yeah.... this is pretty much the epitome of American policy makers watching too many retarded hacker-movies. They think that as they're being hacked, some guy is going to be sitting in a warehouse - typing his ass off, for 20 minutes to 3 days straight - all the while connected to their server and going deeper and deeper into the dark recesses of the Gibson.
That's... pretty much the only way you could 'bomb' them or... notify them of an imminent bombing. Somebody really should consult common sense before they make these ridiculous and embarrassing 'announcements'.
I've read this article about 5 times now, and I must be totally retarded. Where in the article does it explain how refrigerators actually act as batteries?
It looks to me like they're talking about 'conserving electricity' which is far different from turning a refrigerator into a large battery. For example : if I unplug my fridge, how do I make it start producing electricity?
Maybe they _are actually_ talking about turning fridges into power-cells, but it would be excellent if they could explain where the conversion back to electricity comes into play. If it does at all.
Slashdot Mirror
One thing all the media hype fails to really point out, is that this is a first for self-sustaining floating platforms. The potential for a massive, relatively heavy platform that can 'float freely' in the air is really an untapped medium for commercial applications of all types.
And not to sound too, "one day we'll all be driving clean, fuel efficient nuclear cars" -- but once you can place very large turbines at the altitude where massive amounts of air are moving - it isn't going to be too far fetched to see some engineers and dreamers trying to correct CO2, Ozone, and general pollution problems using similar technology.
I remember reading, way way back about how "We can't just release Ozone from airplanes because it would take too many flights and airplanes don't fly at a high enough altitude". Imagine now if you could have a mini-power station, on a massive air-born platform generating and spewing out ozone.
My big question is, how will these tethered 'generating stations' handle the power differential between those high up clouds and the earth. It seems like they're focusing right now on 'generated electricity' without considering the inevitable (and potentially valuable) power spikes they will get from charged clouds and air-current, traveling down that tether.
Another question would be, theoretically speaking - if we had tonnes of these things floating high above the earth, would lightening discharges diminish - and then, would ozone creation actually diminish? I think the potential here could be a very hot topic for engineers for decades to come.
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Now this is a hot topic
I'm sort of surprised that hasselhoff himself isn't buying the car.
I know he really hated that show near the end, and after it was canceled he started referring to his 'gigs' showing up with the car as 'the dog and pony show'. Still though, how funny would it be to throw on a leather jacket and go cruising in your old talking car?
He might not get the babes, but what cop in his right mind would give him a speeding ticket? He's the KnightRider!
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Knight Ride This!
Watch them put together their first prototype crystal radio with their new 'filter' and find an entire cosmos of alien phone calls, television broadcasts and quasar's giving off travel-instructions to nearby ships.
Some people here have said, this is very old news and the article is the equivalent of saying, 'one day railroad lines will cover this great country of ours' -- but seriously, how many average people - like myself, are aware that we're still not using the full EM spectrum available to us. I thought we conquered radio waves in the 50s and everything since then has just been 'computing speed'. I think this is pretty interesting.
It will be cool to see what new forms of cancer and mental disease equipment broadcasting in this spectrum doesn't cause.
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WRONG frequency!
The site is available in english via its primary mirror:
g y/
http://douginadress.com/mirrors/omvi_new/en/ufolo
Looks like the site has been slashdotted. Lol. I've mirrored the article here if anybodies having trouble getting it.
- gates-to-finally-receive.html
http://www.douginadress.com/news/2007/032207-bill
There's a much better, and more recent article on this simulation hosted at www.nasa.gov - but the site is unbelievably slow to load as of late. You can see the nasa.gov article mirrored at http://douginadress.com/news/spaceexploration/berk eley_labs_supernova_data_crunching.html
This story is a little old ; but relevant none the less.
Slashdot's write up neglects to link to the social sciences network chart with an interactive display featuring temporary user-based input nodes and a simple web-gui connection and filtering algorithm. This network model lets you view the original chart, referenced in the article, and then get a feel for the mapping algorithm by submitting your own input on social networks.
It also has an explanation of the hierarchal design employed by wikipedia as explained using the exact same networking algorithm.
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Mod Parent Up!
I've said this about 40 times in other threads on microsoft cracking down on piracy, or implementing some ridiculous piracy protection scheme. They want you to pay for your software, and barring that - they want you to use their software for free.
A long time ago a small, nobody 'heavy metal' rock group made a recording of their 'jam sessions', labelled it 'garage days' and told people to distribute it like crazy. copy copy copy - give it out for free. They're now known as metallica, the clueless sods chasing down music pirates and doing horrible PR campaigns against Napster.
Microsoft is exactly the same. If they weren't the #1 operating system in the world, do you think they could attempt to charge such ridiculous prices for software and 'require' that you purchase a new computer every three years? Not likely.
I hope people quote this article from now on, every single time microsoft fucks over their customer base and tries to claim they're 'losing money' from piracy. What a joke.
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Nothing funny about this joke.
The slashdot write-up doesn't seem to make a lot of sense on the surface, but I think this is a reasonable observation. It's not that having a computer-science degree is useless, but in the past everybody was getting their degree to head the development of major, proprietary software packages for companies. Packages that handled customer relationship management, accounting, shipping receiving, etc. And every week there would be a meeting of the office dullards with some new 'idea' on how to improve things, ultimately requiring another development project.
Cut to today where most companies rely on the software packages of only a few developers, like goldmine, microsoft office, whatever -- you've cut out the need for computer science degree's in all but a small handful of successful companies.
Someone commented in this thread, "And where do these software packages come from?" -- they come from computer science degree's. About 5. 5 dime a dozen computer science degree's. And where do they come from next year? The same company ; meaning they can cut-out 4 of those computer science degrees and keep 1 for maintenance.
This is an oversimplified explanation of software in general, but it's fairly accurate. I'm in the middle of porting a visual-basic application to a web based PHP application for a Toronto, Ontario based company. The VB application might have required a CS degree, but it also cost $15,000 to produce. My web based version on a bad day won't go over $3000 to produce, and I'll be paid well for what I'm doing.
When languages keep getting higher level you cut the 'degree' out of the equation completely. University (in canada) and ivy-league colleges (in the states) focus on calculating cpu-cycles and low level mechanics of development. PHP focuses on asking a computer to do something in plain english. Community college is about all you need for that ; or in the case of most slashdotters - common sense.
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This degree is too much!
Hahaha, "John Sankus and his techno-gang ..."
Watch out for the techno-gang! At least he didn't use the word 'thugs' to legitimize their ridiculous waste of money on sort-of slowing down the completely victimless crime the 'gang' was committing. Would anybody cheer if they arrested Coca-Cola shareholders for competing with Pepsi? Because this is essentially major tax money going to 'protect' the rights of very very big business, and nothing else.
Do you think the FBI would start a case on somebody pirating Forest Blog ? Because that's what they should be doing. If it's about rights and freedom's being protected, make a point of protecting the little guy for once. Just once. After all, they're the ones paying your salaries. You think Microsoft is paying 50% of it's income to taxes?
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Fight piracy, link to this site
It would be nice if the article actually identified why these patterns have to be based on a complicated mathematical principle, and if they're not - how they could have been made and still represent that mathematical principle. According to the article, the patterns aren't even exact but quasi-crystalline-structures.
I can do a quasi-fractal-pattern by accident if I have enough time to create random patterns, like say an entire country's worth of structures covered in patterns.
Can some statistics-guru figure out the odds of this being a random accident, considering how few examples they have, and how the examples aren't even exact representations of the mysterious mathematical formula(s) they mention? I really don't get why this is believable based on the article.
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Pre-Roman Crystalline Structure Dance
I'm so sick of all the left-wing zealots going crazy over news like this.
Global Warming is a simple, natural phenomenon whereby the planet destroys a large percentage of it's population - including humanity, and then starts over again.
Nothing to worry about.
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Too large a percentage?
Just so everybody knows, this story does have a happy ending. The MPAA responded, finally, to his inquiries after a very long wait - by saying essentially that they were only using his software for 'testing' purposes and that the offending site was never made live, advertised on the internet etc.
The Forest Blog Author retorted, in his update to this story, that he doubts they would have been so kind if he 'borrowed' some movies for 'testing' purposes but never distributed them to anybody. He makes a valid point.
The entire trial over those dvd-codec software coders was based on them 'circumventing' a DVD's protection mechanism - it had nothing to do with them actually committing piracy, and were it not for the Digitial Millenium Copyright Act the MPAA would have had no case at all. Essentially they sued and won, establishing for the first time in history that you can purchase intellectual property but essentially not have ownership of the rights to even use it, however you see fit.
Remember that all laws previous to the DMCA were to protect against piracy, (bootlegging, distribution, etc). But now the DMCA actually limits your freedom of use, even for personal use. And it's been proven. If they can do that, why can they abuse fair-use of software they essentially got just by agreeing to it's terms of use?
I say he still send his case to the EFF and hope that they can use something in this as ammunition against the MPAA.
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DMCA Doesn't Protect Against This!
... I don't think the most uneducated, dying children in africa think food is scarce. They know there's better places in the world, with food.
The problem isn't that it's scarce, because it's not - the problem is that african's have no money.
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Ethiopian Yam Festival Dance
I don't think I can remember fruits and vegetables ever tasting so horrible as they do now. Strawberries and Tomato's that split before fully-ripe, have almost no flavour what-so-ever (if anything they both taste like the white-tasteless-heart of a strawberry) -- and generally don't cost any damned less than they would have with inflation from the 1980's. Organic foods just cost _more_ than they ever have, and now have a fancy name. Surprise! They were always organic! You shouldn't have to search for it.
GM foods make money for the large corporations that grow them, the same companies that have put every decent farmer out of business. It's not like GM foods are necessary to 'feed our planet' or whatever their marketing slant is -- do you think they now grow too much and ship the excess off to africa? yeah... I didn't think so either.
The most common GM chickens hardly have any flavour, and nobody that grows or markets them even disputes that. They will tell you flat-out they just grow-faster. That's the attraction. From now on, I'm growing all of my own fruits and vegetables and at least a significant portion of my livestock.
I've already had cancer once, why even take the risk. Why take the risk of any adverse side effects that is very real with any GM food. You don't have to be a scientist to know it's a bad idea, they do it because it makes money - not because it's healthier, or tastes better. What the hell do they care about your health?
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Not genetically modified
The article mentions that potential 'threat asteroids' are being tracked, and hopefully all potential threats will soon be identified for closer observation.
I remember reading years ago on slashdot about a near-miss that occured during daylight hours, when a global-catastrophe sized asteroid approached earth from the sun and passed between the moon and earth. Does anybody remember this? And the asteroid wasn't even detected until it had already passed.
What about asteroids that can be slingshot from behind the sun, or elude detection as that one did (because the sun was in our eyes?). The article doesn't mention if there's always going to be an un-trackable region of space. Does anybody more versed in this know, with current technology and a little more time, will we really be able to track all potential, immediate threats?
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This is an immediate threat!
clever!
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Penicillin this coward!
This is insightful?
Have you ever heard of the flu vaccine - released every single year? The one that cures the flu and it's mutations, every single year?
It _cures_ the flu, in it's specific mutations. If you could do that with AIDS you would have to be re-infected for it to come back.
See the difference? I think curing 1 virus every year is pretty impressive.
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can't cure this!
My post was actually edited, I don't know how. I did put in an apostrophe, after the s - its' , which is a strange way i was taught to apostrophize possessive its'. Canadian English? Or a bad grade 1 teacher?
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Bad teacher! bad!
I made a mistake when I said it was discovered sometime in the 1970's. What I meant was, sometime in the 1970's the first few victims of the disease discovered they were deathly ill, and then died, after taking antibiotics and cold and flu medicine. Therefore, we have been fighting the disease since the first known infection and people 'discovered' it when they got it.
My write-up does imply it was 'identified by scientists' in the 1970's and that's not what I meant, but it was 4am.
It sounds ridiculous to say, "We tried penecilan against HIV and nothing happened!" - but that is what happened, and I'm not re-writing history.
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Fight This Disease!
Is there such thing as "GNU" ?
Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not used by everybody else - making it legitimate. I can't stand when people use the singular form of 'beer' to express how many bottles of beer they've drunk. When it comes in units, the plural has an S.
Whatever.
I'm not running an apple ; mostly because I have a pc right here in front of me so why pay more money. But is there any reason now NOT to run an apple? Microsoft would have done better to not release vista ; they're ensuring people hate them and try the competition.
If I were a shareholder, i would sell sell sell.
I think it's a safe bet to say every shareholder should short-sell before every major release of windows. They do this every single time. Hype it up, stock goes up, release it, disappointing everyone, stock goes down, holding pattern, start all over again.
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SELL SELL SELL! | Sometimes I'm bored
Citing recent sales numbers, local used car dealer frank "the lone testicle" johnson has declared that he is in fact the best car dealer in all of north america.
"It was a toss up between me and every single other person, that is until I decided on the criteria by which we were all graded.", said the lone testicle.
Some other sales people are confused by the unanimous victory, but have to admit that Johnson is the best at dealing cars he himself is authorized to sell - in all of north america. One of johnson's opponent dealerships claims, "He only gets those numbers because he's counting sales of the very rare 'Delorian' cars that he sells. Of course when they offered 2 delorians for sale this year, his numbers doubled and every single other dealer in north america that doesn't sell those got a zero on his rating scale."
Confused by semantics, my editor has decided to just give free publicity to Mr. Johnson because he came up with a self-fellating story that almost sounds legitimate. congratulations lone testicle, please take all of my readers and try to sell them your over-priced crap.
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lone testicle?
Yeah.... this is pretty much the epitome of American policy makers watching too many retarded hacker-movies. They think that as they're being hacked, some guy is going to be sitting in a warehouse - typing his ass off, for 20 minutes to 3 days straight - all the while connected to their server and going deeper and deeper into the dark recesses of the Gibson.
That's... pretty much the only way you could 'bomb' them or... notify them of an imminent bombing. Somebody really should consult common sense before they make these ridiculous and embarrassing 'announcements'.
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ridiculous and embarrassing
I've read this article about 5 times now, and I must be totally retarded. Where in the article does it explain how refrigerators actually act as batteries?
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It looks to me like they're talking about 'conserving electricity' which is far different from turning a refrigerator into a large battery. For example : if I unplug my fridge, how do I make it start producing electricity?
Maybe they _are actually_ talking about turning fridges into power-cells, but it would be excellent if they could explain where the conversion back to electricity comes into play. If it does at all.
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must be totally retarded