Even so, if the cameras performed as advertised, they would at least know who started the fire. They don't even have that. They aren't even sure what color or make their car was.
If they have so many cameras all over the place, why weren't they able to identify and stop the torching of the Cutty Sark before damage was done? The vandals should have been spotted and detained immediately. Instead they have no clue who did what, except that they may or may not have been driving a silver car.
I distinctly remember an IBM 5250-family terminal attached to a System/34 (Or/36) that had two CRTs for this purpose. It looked like two 5251s joined back-to-back. IIRC it required only one twinax connection. Does anyone remember the ID?
If nuclear weapons are what the feel they need to defend themselves from others, then they will make them. The same goes for criminals, no amount of law will prevent them from getting weapons if that's what they feel they need to ensure their success. No amount of international posturing is going to prevent a country from just building nukes in secret, much like no law will prevent criminals bent on success from obtaining guns. We can't just wave a magic wand and expect nukes and guns to go away, and we also can't expect everyone else to intentionally place themselves at a disadvantage to others. We have nukes, and that scares people, and so they want nukes as well, to put us on even footing. We won't give up our nukes because they might not give up theirs, and there forms a loop of mutual fear. The same is true for guns, knives, or any other weapon. Any way you care to look at the situation, we all lose as long as this loop of mutual fear exists. Breaking the loop is non-trivial. You can't stuff the genie back in the bottle.
As far as nuclear weapons, I like to think that if some crackpot actually DOES nuke someone else outside of an openly declared and internationally supported war, there would be such a response from the rest of the world that said crackpot would be immediately and utterly annihilated. No sane human being would witness such an event and say "Well, they deserved it, they believed differently than we do!", much less an empowered nation of mostly sane humans.
As much as I hate the idea of needless death, I hate the idea of my own needless death even more. I refuse to be an easy mark for someone who believes they are entitled to the fruits of my labor by virtue of their lawlessness. I make myself as hard a target as feasible, and if that means I must attempt to kill someone, then I am fully prepared to do that. I have many safeguards before going to that extreme - I have locks on the doors, signs posted, and the law of the land behind me to dissuade the casual from victimizing me. Only those who have decided that their life is worthless enough to waste in the pursuit of my television will get far enough for me to kill them. I am a big fan of de-escalation doctrine, but it is not a solution to all problems. Sometimes are threatened by the violent. If you are not prepared to respond with 110% of the violence you are threatened with, you will become a victim. You don't need to be violent in the first place, but you must be prepared to respond in kind. They are the ones who decide to get violent, not you.
I still don't see why I should be disallowed from being on an even standing with the average criminal. We've established that criminals can and will break the law, and don't care about their personal safety. Me returning fire is not likely to scare them off, but if I am going to get shot, I would like to have a chance at returning the favor. It'd be nice if everyone would just behave themselves and nobody needed guns, but such is not the case.
I tell you what, I'll make a deal: If the world can come up with and implement a fool-proof 100% successful method to eradicate all use of marijuana from the United States, then I will gladly allow that same method to be applied to firearms and willingly give up any weapons I might own.
Right now the government can't even keep drugs off our streets, can't keep us out of trouble overseas, and can't even keep their damn pants on most of the time. Yet you all expect me to allow these people to decide whether or not I can be as well-armed as the average criminal? That's madness.
Oh yeah, I forgot, pointing out Slashdot bias is trolling. My apologies. Maybe this should be integrated into the lameness filter? I could have spared my karma if I had a warning, something like "The post you are about to make is counter to Slashdot groupthink, are you sure you don't want to post anonymously?"
I still stand by my point, "trolling" or not: If this were NASA losing a ship Slashdot would be throwing a fit. Nobody complains when ESA, Energia, or some private venture blows up equipment, but everyone is all over NASA like lawyers on lawsuits when they have the slightest problems.
Oh please. If this were NASA everyone would be clamoring for someone's head and talking about how we desperately need privatization, or making jokes about crews dying. Failures are failures.
Not exactly; It was more political opposition. IBM and NASA were pretty involved, and the government wanted to break up IBM, so NASA was affected as well. (Lots of IBM software packages, like IMS, were developed at, by, or for NASA) Later in the Apollo project the public started becoming more bored (for lack of a better term) with space exploration, and a lot of congresscritters were eyeing NASA's budget for their own purposes. They forced a lot of change and crippled the organization and led directly to a lot of Apollo materials being destroyed or lost to prevent NASA from restarting a politically unpopular project. If there was any conspiracy, it was to cripple NASA and ensure their failure, and profit from that failure.
Having read the documents I've read I find it very hard to believe the moon landing was a hoax. We have extensive schematic diagrams of the CSM, and we've proven directly almost all of the guidance computer capability. I don't think the capability to construct a hoax of this magnitude existed at the time. With all of this documentation, the chance of a single mistake giving away the farm would have been huge. The proofreading and crossreferencing required to coordinate it all without actual testing would have been insurmountable without modern text processing, and even today searching the many documents for specific information is a real chore.
Oh, I missed something - That 5 years is not just the software, it's to model an entire Saturn/Apollo stack. We have more than just another AGC emulator, we're building the rest of the ship (and MSFN and MCC and so on) around it.
Problem is, you're right - Nobody had the foresight to keep the original plans and now we have to start over. Only 30 years after the missions were flown, with most of the crews still alive and examples of the spacecraft intact, we have thrown away enough of the documentation to make recreating the missions a major undertaking.
I'm part of a research project that is working on re-implementing the Apollo project with a software simulation. We have a guidance computer emulator that runs the original guidance software (unmodified) in a model of the original ship. But that's only 2 of the 4 computers we need to fly a mission. The software for the actual Saturn booster was destroyed when IBM Federal Systems division ceased to exist. (MIT and TRW who built the other computers kept their source code, and we have it.) We're having lots of trouble finding even design docuents for the flown versions. Right now, after almost 5 years of continuous work, we are -almost- to the point where we can fly an Apollo 7 mission. (CSM test in Earth orbit). And that's just a SOFTWARE implementation, we aren't having to fabricate parts or anything. Lots of the systems-level documentation was lost and must be recreated from schematic diagrams, and little in the way of preflight planning documents exists anymore. We're making progress though. Right now the last major command-module-computer problem we think we have is telling the command module computer how to find the moon. It uses a time reference that nobody bothered to document, and must be recreated by reverse engineering. We've also never found any manuals related to the mission control operations room and their controls and displays.
As part of the Project Apollo research effort, I can tell you that the Apollo spacecraft (Which is arguably one of mankind's greatest achievements) didn't even make it 50 years - Even now, with the spacecraft still intact and the crew still alive, we are having to undertake a large reverse-engineering project with limited documentation to recreate the operation of the spacecraft.
The studios make what they want to make and sell what they want to sell. If the Japanese don't want to sell to you, that's their right. Maybe they think Bush sucks and don't want to deal with Americans. Maybe they think distribution overseas is too expensive. Maybe they just don't care. But for whatever reason, if they decide they don't want to sell their product in the US, that's their right.
I'm quick to judge? The very definition of cowardice is "A lack of courage or resolution". This person lacked the courage to face the results of their actions and so they fled. That's the dictionary definition of a coward.
The act of needlessly killing someone, intentionally or not, is murder. If I am playing with a firearm and I fire the weapon through the wall of my apartment and kill someone on the other side, I will be charged with murder, and become the subject of many news stories condemning the ownership of firearms and much public outcry. But in this case, some innocent bicyclist gets run down by a car, and everyone wants to consider the criminal's point of view. It doesn't matter whether or not I planned to kill the person, I still killed them. There is self-defense and there is murder. One of these things is not like the other...
I hope the perpetrator is found, and forced to live the remainder of their life with the shame of being a murderer and a coward. Fleeing the scene is detestable. Death is too easy for this one.
But that would mean you would have to cook the food and not just have it shipped in! How is the school district suppoesd to turn a profit if they have to PAY people?
Yes, but manned projects are a waste of time and resources and we don't want to talk about those nowadays. The sooner we forget about the fake moon landing, the sooner we can get on with the real science of massive megacorporations paying Europeans to shoot resource-finding probes into space so they can continue their dominance.
Please understand: FANSUB ARE ILLEGAL. No ifs, ands, or buts. Fansubs are TOLERATED. TOLERATED != LEGAL, or even QUASI-LEGAL. Fansubbing can be stopped at any time once someone gets the money and motivation to enforce the law against fansubbers.
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I take it your English class was frequently interrupted by misfits?
Even so, if the cameras performed as advertised, they would at least know who started the fire. They don't even have that. They aren't even sure what color or make their car was.
If they have so many cameras all over the place, why weren't they able to identify and stop the torching of the Cutty Sark before damage was done? The vandals should have been spotted and detained immediately. Instead they have no clue who did what, except that they may or may not have been driving a silver car.
I distinctly remember an IBM 5250-family terminal attached to a System/34 (Or /36) that had two CRTs for this purpose. It looked like two 5251s joined back-to-back. IIRC it required only one twinax connection. Does anyone remember the ID?
If nuclear weapons are what the feel they need to defend themselves from others, then they will make them. The same goes for criminals, no amount of law will prevent them from getting weapons if that's what they feel they need to ensure their success. No amount of international posturing is going to prevent a country from just building nukes in secret, much like no law will prevent criminals bent on success from obtaining guns. We can't just wave a magic wand and expect nukes and guns to go away, and we also can't expect everyone else to intentionally place themselves at a disadvantage to others. We have nukes, and that scares people, and so they want nukes as well, to put us on even footing. We won't give up our nukes because they might not give up theirs, and there forms a loop of mutual fear. The same is true for guns, knives, or any other weapon. Any way you care to look at the situation, we all lose as long as this loop of mutual fear exists. Breaking the loop is non-trivial. You can't stuff the genie back in the bottle.
As far as nuclear weapons, I like to think that if some crackpot actually DOES nuke someone else outside of an openly declared and internationally supported war, there would be such a response from the rest of the world that said crackpot would be immediately and utterly annihilated. No sane human being would witness such an event and say "Well, they deserved it, they believed differently than we do!", much less an empowered nation of mostly sane humans.
As much as I hate the idea of needless death, I hate the idea of my own needless death even more. I refuse to be an easy mark for someone who believes they are entitled to the fruits of my labor by virtue of their lawlessness. I make myself as hard a target as feasible, and if that means I must attempt to kill someone, then I am fully prepared to do that. I have many safeguards before going to that extreme - I have locks on the doors, signs posted, and the law of the land behind me to dissuade the casual from victimizing me. Only those who have decided that their life is worthless enough to waste in the pursuit of my television will get far enough for me to kill them. I am a big fan of de-escalation doctrine, but it is not a solution to all problems. Sometimes are threatened by the violent. If you are not prepared to respond with 110% of the violence you are threatened with, you will become a victim. You don't need to be violent in the first place, but you must be prepared to respond in kind. They are the ones who decide to get violent, not you.
I still don't see why I should be disallowed from being on an even standing with the average criminal. We've established that criminals can and will break the law, and don't care about their personal safety. Me returning fire is not likely to scare them off, but if I am going to get shot, I would like to have a chance at returning the favor. It'd be nice if everyone would just behave themselves and nobody needed guns, but such is not the case.
I tell you what, I'll make a deal:
If the world can come up with and implement a fool-proof 100% successful method to eradicate all use of marijuana from the United States, then I will gladly allow that same method to be applied to firearms and willingly give up any weapons I might own.
Right now the government can't even keep drugs off our streets, can't keep us out of trouble overseas, and can't even keep their damn pants on most of the time. Yet you all expect me to allow these people to decide whether or not I can be as well-armed as the average criminal? That's madness.
What about emacs?
Oh yeah, I forgot, pointing out Slashdot bias is trolling. My apologies. Maybe this should be integrated into the lameness filter? I could have spared my karma if I had a warning, something like "The post you are about to make is counter to Slashdot groupthink, are you sure you don't want to post anonymously?"
I still stand by my point, "trolling" or not: If this were NASA losing a ship Slashdot would be throwing a fit. Nobody complains when ESA, Energia, or some private venture blows up equipment, but everyone is all over NASA like lawyers on lawsuits when they have the slightest problems.
Oh please. If this were NASA everyone would be clamoring for someone's head and talking about how we desperately need privatization, or making jokes about crews dying. Failures are failures.
How does you types with boxing gloves on?
Not exactly; It was more political opposition. IBM and NASA were pretty involved, and the government wanted to break up IBM, so NASA was affected as well. (Lots of IBM software packages, like IMS, were developed at, by, or for NASA) Later in the Apollo project the public started becoming more bored (for lack of a better term) with space exploration, and a lot of congresscritters were eyeing NASA's budget for their own purposes. They forced a lot of change and crippled the organization and led directly to a lot of Apollo materials being destroyed or lost to prevent NASA from restarting a politically unpopular project. If there was any conspiracy, it was to cripple NASA and ensure their failure, and profit from that failure.
Having read the documents I've read I find it very hard to believe the moon landing was a hoax. We have extensive schematic diagrams of the CSM, and we've proven directly almost all of the guidance computer capability. I don't think the capability to construct a hoax of this magnitude existed at the time. With all of this documentation, the chance of a single mistake giving away the farm would have been huge. The proofreading and crossreferencing required to coordinate it all without actual testing would have been insurmountable without modern text processing, and even today searching the many documents for specific information is a real chore.
Oh, I missed something - That 5 years is not just the software, it's to model an entire Saturn/Apollo stack. We have more than just another AGC emulator, we're building the rest of the ship (and MSFN and MCC and so on) around it.
Well, they were paid to work on it full time and we aren't, for one... ^_^
Problem is, you're right - Nobody had the foresight to keep the original plans and now we have to start over. Only 30 years after the missions were flown, with most of the crews still alive and examples of the spacecraft intact, we have thrown away enough of the documentation to make recreating the missions a major undertaking.
I'm part of a research project that is working on re-implementing the Apollo project with a software simulation. We have a guidance computer emulator that runs the original guidance software (unmodified) in a model of the original ship. But that's only 2 of the 4 computers we need to fly a mission. The software for the actual Saturn booster was destroyed when IBM Federal Systems division ceased to exist. (MIT and TRW who built the other computers kept their source code, and we have it.) We're having lots of trouble finding even design docuents for the flown versions. Right now, after almost 5 years of continuous work, we are -almost- to the point where we can fly an Apollo 7 mission. (CSM test in Earth orbit). And that's just a SOFTWARE implementation, we aren't having to fabricate parts or anything. Lots of the systems-level documentation was lost and must be recreated from schematic diagrams, and little in the way of preflight planning documents exists anymore. We're making progress though. Right now the last major command-module-computer problem we think we have is telling the command module computer how to find the moon. It uses a time reference that nobody bothered to document, and must be recreated by reverse engineering. We've also never found any manuals related to the mission control operations room and their controls and displays.
As part of the Project Apollo research effort, I can tell you that the Apollo spacecraft (Which is arguably one of mankind's greatest achievements) didn't even make it 50 years - Even now, with the spacecraft still intact and the crew still alive, we are having to undertake a large reverse-engineering project with limited documentation to recreate the operation of the spacecraft.
Everyone thinks ME-tan is cute, even though she's completely inept and freezes and so on.
Not what I want in an OS, but she is funny to watch ^_^
Awesome! That was the first thing I thought of and the first thing I was going to check for when I got home.
And what makes you think that's THEIR problem?
The studios make what they want to make and sell what they want to sell. If the Japanese don't want to sell to you, that's their right. Maybe they think Bush sucks and don't want to deal with Americans. Maybe they think distribution overseas is too expensive. Maybe they just don't care. But for whatever reason, if they decide they don't want to sell their product in the US, that's their right.
I'm quick to judge? The very definition of cowardice is "A lack of courage or resolution". This person lacked the courage to face the results of their actions and so they fled. That's the dictionary definition of a coward.
The act of needlessly killing someone, intentionally or not, is murder. If I am playing with a firearm and I fire the weapon through the wall of my apartment and kill someone on the other side, I will be charged with murder, and become the subject of many news stories condemning the ownership of firearms and much public outcry. But in this case, some innocent bicyclist gets run down by a car, and everyone wants to consider the criminal's point of view. It doesn't matter whether or not I planned to kill the person, I still killed them. There is self-defense and there is murder. One of these things is not like the other...
I hope the perpetrator is found, and forced to live the remainder of their life with the shame of being a murderer and a coward.
Fleeing the scene is detestable. Death is too easy for this one.
But that would mean you would have to cook the food and not just have it shipped in!
How is the school district suppoesd to turn a profit if they have to PAY people?
I honestly believe this is the first time ever that I have wished for mod points.
...where they'll make damn sure the common man can never afford to go!
Yes, but manned projects are a waste of time and resources and we don't want to talk about those nowadays. The sooner we forget about the fake moon landing, the sooner we can get on with the real science of massive megacorporations paying Europeans to shoot resource-finding probes into space so they can continue their dominance.
Please understand: FANSUB ARE ILLEGAL. No ifs, ands, or buts. Fansubs are TOLERATED. TOLERATED != LEGAL, or even QUASI-LEGAL. Fansubbing can be stopped at any time once someone gets the money and motivation to enforce the law against fansubbers.
If you don't like this, do something about it.