"...will include a tool for retrieving digital photos..."
And someday I will deliver a search tool that can search video, and for example present all the video clips of presidents scratching their nose and create a database logging the clip, the president's name, the time and location, and the position in the video clip.
Just saying so doesn't mean it will be there! This sounds like overhyped vapor.
Here's the joke.
It takes 3 companies to change a lightbulb:
3 to invent new technology,
3 to patent the IP,
3 to litigate among all the product producers for control and royalties,
and 7 billion people 17 years to wait for the patents to expire and actually use them.
On the slightly more serious side, I wonder if this advances technologies used in getting intact DNA from smaller samples of older stuff, with the eventual aim of getting enough to clone something that's not around anymore.
"chips available soon for half the cost of bluetooth"
Several years ago Bluetooth claimed to be available soon at low cost. It took longer to solve the problems, and it's cost more than expected at least initially.
My fear is that Oil will be the financier to this action that narcotics have been to SE Asia and Central American intervention by the USA. With Billions of $ in Iraqi oil revenue controlled by the occupying forces, its soooooo easy to skim off a few hundred million to do, well, whatever.
From a thread on Brighthand, here is the FCC licensing docs including dissassembled pictures: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.ex e/prod/oet/ forms/reports/Search_Form.hts?mode=Edit&form=Exhib its&application_id=176459&fcc_id=O3W200000
Gates said Orwell's vision "'didn't come true, and I don't believe it will.'
Later that day 6 reporters who did not get the quote correct were summarily fired, their offices trashed, their families left homeless and their co-workers interviewed.
tatoo yourself with the solution to Fermat's last theorem, or a 2-line crack of strong encryption. Shouldn't negatively affect your math carreer one bit.
Example: my neighbor is a doctor who rotates responsibility for the hosiptal's medical library. Several years ago the documents (journals, etc.) began arriving there on CD. The anticipation was that they would be cheaper for the hospital to buy (lower production and shipping costs than for all that paper) and it would be easier to share with clinics and other doctors electronically (the library had to mail away the documents and have them mailed back).
The reality is that the CD compilations now cost more than the paper documents did before, and they arrive with license restrictions stating that *they cannot be shared at all*. Multiple copies are now purchased at even greater cost.
RIAA: "Intellectual property should not be treated any differently than other property."
Yeah, but it *is* different than other property.
Duh.
Why are we having these discussions over and over?
If they keep telling us this they hope we will finally believe it. Those claiming ownership of that which cannot be contained run to the regulatory agencies in hope of enforcing their position. They will win only if we give in to them.
Let's back legislation that allows for *reasonable* profits and open access. Who decides what that means? We all do.
I'm done.
I'm sorry, I just don't buy his reasoning that the DRM technology and laws are bad because they don't allow selective misinterpretation of them. He's really arguing that they're OK as long as they're not really enforced.
DRM technology and laws ARE crimes against humanity (sure, there are degrees of crimes against humanity) because they put gross profit opportunity ahead of the benefits to the commons. We're all better off if reasonable profits are protected and ideas are open and shared, than if Disney continues to make Megapoltroons indefiniteley off of Steamboat Willie while everything is locked down.
>>I mean, come one. Isn't it amazing enough that he mades $12 billion or whatever on MSFT?
I'm not impressed that his tactics resulted in this amount of loot - certainly no admiration from me. Is it the amount of money you respect or envy, or is it the ability to disregard everything to get it? Why is wealth respected over more important things? Why are you about to respond "there are no more important things"? Of course, as is stated elsewhere here, the pertinent issue is why is he selling now, why so much.
Bet that if this does come to pass, "every song ever created" won't be available.
Why should I pay anything for tethered music? I now "subcribe" to a service that has, not nearly every song ever created but does have a great wide selection, no DRM, and costs much much less. The major (only?) cost in it, and a major cost for any service, is the amount of time I dedicate to finding songs, downloading, and maintaining them on playback devices, including maintaining backups and planning that backup strategy. I've already lost everything once and don't want to experience that again.
I'd rather (1) buy/rip my own CDs and (2) use the "services" that are already out there to explore new music.
Thank you for posting this - I saw the CNN story and howled, especially at the oh-so-clever line "they can always choose not to use it". "They" means them (ms developers) and them (3rd parties) and them (corporate and retail customers) on several levels.
They can play both sides of the fence - their house has an open area and a locked area too.
I can only hope for the persistence of a completely open house, and contribute to tools that keep the open area open for everthing important.
I'm not sure if a legal opinion on our right to fair use means anything anymore these days. Rights are being bought and sold around us.
Noble intentions, but could someone please explain how a device with no integral I/O exists stand-alone? Gotta be a mis-comm, a journalistic embellishment.
Near as I can remember I also received my notices after the rebate periods were over, and in return I did not get any of the paperwork I sent in - I guess since the time had expired there was no point. I always assumed it was my carelessness and it could still be, but from all these postings it looks like this is a major consumer swindle, a profit "opportunity".
Oops, this has become a buyer-beware culture; sorry, we're SOL.
I have submitted over 6 Frys rebates and everyone has been rejected - something always seems to be missing. At least they send me a notice saying so. I have nothing against Frys (you can see I have kept buying stuff from there), but before I buy I always remember to translate their advertised price to the price without the rebate before deciding, because I don't even bother any more.
Get your town to consider adding phone service to the list. Local calls free, and bulk long distance charges.
When you figure out that everything you buy has, oh, 35% - 100% or so (or more) profit tacked on to the cost, you begin to wonder why everyone isn't doing all of it on their own. Everything.
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"...will include a tool for retrieving digital photos..."
And someday I will deliver a search tool that can search video, and for example present all the video clips of presidents scratching their nose and create a database logging the clip, the president's name, the time and location, and the position in the video clip.
Just saying so doesn't mean it will be there! This sounds like overhyped vapor.
You want Wireless access? It's a phone! Memory expansion is there via SD cards.
I would argue that being in the model rocket is the next best thing to having a camera in it instead.
Here's the joke. It takes 3 companies to change a lightbulb: 3 to invent new technology, 3 to patent the IP, 3 to litigate among all the product producers for control and royalties, and 7 billion people 17 years to wait for the patents to expire and actually use them.
Did dinosaurs leave fingerprints?
On the slightly more serious side, I wonder if this advances technologies used in getting intact DNA from smaller samples of older stuff, with the eventual aim of getting enough to clone something that's not around anymore.
"chips available soon for half the cost of bluetooth"
Several years ago Bluetooth claimed to be available soon at low cost. It took longer to solve the problems, and it's cost more than expected at least initially.
Eyes open please.
"...a number in excess of 35 trillion that is "so big that there's not a word for the number..."
Um, I think 35 trillion, 350 trillion, or whatever, is a good word for the number, don't you?
My fear is that Oil will be the financier to this action that narcotics have been to SE Asia and Central American intervention by the USA. With Billions of $ in Iraqi oil revenue controlled by the occupying forces, its soooooo easy to skim off a few hundred million to do, well, whatever.
TIA dead? Are you sure?
The Ninjas work out of the trailers in the parking lot. Did you even look?
From a thread on Brighthand, here is the FCC licensing docs including dissassembled pictures:x e/prod/oet/ forms/reports/Search_Form.hts?mode=Edit&form=Exhib its&application_id=176459&fcc_id=O3W200000
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.e
Where's the antenna?
I've always liked that. Free as in thought.
How to distinguish Manufactured Property from Untetherable Concept?
Perhaps it's just Hardware and Software.
Gates said Orwell's vision "'didn't come true, and I don't believe it will.' Later that day 6 reporters who did not get the quote correct were summarily fired, their offices trashed, their families left homeless and their co-workers interviewed.
tatoo yourself with the solution to Fermat's last theorem, or a 2-line crack of strong encryption. Shouldn't negatively affect your math carreer one bit.
The upside is that no matter who loses, we win!
Example: my neighbor is a doctor who rotates responsibility for the hosiptal's medical library. Several years ago the documents (journals, etc.) began arriving there on CD. The anticipation was that they would be cheaper for the hospital to buy (lower production and shipping costs than for all that paper) and it would be easier to share with clinics and other doctors electronically (the library had to mail away the documents and have them mailed back).
The reality is that the CD compilations now cost more than the paper documents did before, and they arrive with license restrictions stating that *they cannot be shared at all*. Multiple copies are now purchased at even greater cost.
Better living through technology, eh?
RIAA: "Intellectual property should not be treated any differently than other property." Yeah, but it *is* different than other property. Duh. Why are we having these discussions over and over? If they keep telling us this they hope we will finally believe it. Those claiming ownership of that which cannot be contained run to the regulatory agencies in hope of enforcing their position. They will win only if we give in to them. Let's back legislation that allows for *reasonable* profits and open access. Who decides what that means? We all do. I'm done.
...to Big Brother and the Holding Company.
I'm sorry, I just don't buy his reasoning that the DRM technology and laws are bad because they don't allow selective misinterpretation of them. He's really arguing that they're OK as long as they're not really enforced.
DRM technology and laws ARE crimes against humanity (sure, there are degrees of crimes against humanity) because they put gross profit opportunity ahead of the benefits to the commons. We're all better off if reasonable profits are protected and ideas are open and shared, than if Disney continues to make Megapoltroons indefiniteley off of Steamboat Willie while everything is locked down.
>>I mean, come one. Isn't it amazing enough that he mades $12 billion or whatever on MSFT?
I'm not impressed that his tactics resulted in this amount of loot - certainly no admiration from me. Is it the amount of money you respect or envy, or is it the ability to disregard everything to get it? Why is wealth respected over more important things? Why are you about to respond "there are no more important things"?
Of course, as is stated elsewhere here, the pertinent issue is why is he selling now, why so much.
Let's all figure this out together.
Bet that if this does come to pass, "every song ever created" won't be available.
Why should I pay anything for tethered music? I now "subcribe" to a service that has, not nearly every song ever created but does have a great wide selection, no DRM, and costs much much less. The major (only?) cost in it, and a major cost for any service, is the amount of time I dedicate to finding songs, downloading, and maintaining them on playback devices, including maintaining backups and planning that backup strategy. I've already lost everything once and don't want to experience that again.
I'd rather (1) buy/rip my own CDs and (2) use the "services" that are already out there to explore new music.
Thank you for posting this - I saw the CNN story and howled, especially at the oh-so-clever line "they can always choose not to use it". "They" means them (ms developers) and them (3rd parties) and them (corporate and retail customers) on several levels.
They can play both sides of the fence - their house has an open area and a locked area too.
I can only hope for the persistence of a completely open house, and contribute to tools that keep the open area open for everthing important.
I'm not sure if a legal opinion on our right to fair use means anything anymore these days. Rights are being bought and sold around us.
Noble intentions, but could someone please explain how a device with no integral I/O exists stand-alone? Gotta be a mis-comm, a journalistic embellishment.
Near as I can remember I also received my notices after the rebate periods were over, and in return I did not get any of the paperwork I sent in - I guess since the time had expired there was no point. I always assumed it was my carelessness and it could still be, but from all these postings it looks like this is a major consumer swindle, a profit "opportunity".
Oops, this has become a buyer-beware culture; sorry, we're SOL.
I have submitted over 6 Frys rebates and everyone has been rejected - something always seems to be missing. At least they send me a notice saying so. I have nothing against Frys (you can see I have kept buying stuff from there), but before I buy I always remember to translate their advertised price to the price without the rebate before deciding, because I don't even bother any more.
Get your town to consider adding phone service to the list. Local calls free, and bulk long distance charges.
When you figure out that everything you buy has, oh, 35% - 100% or so (or more) profit tacked on to the cost, you begin to wonder why everyone isn't doing all of it on their own. Everything.