How hard do you all think it would be to emulate their servers? Intercepting the phone call would be dead easy. Heck, we could even get the listings from the net and provide those too. Reverse engineer the protocol and enable whatever features you want!;).
Actually, I think they do make money
Look closely at what they have. Look at slashdot. Slashdot can afford to hire a bunch of people to submit stories and fly around to conferences and still is profitable. Why? Simple: it has a HUGE user base, and low operating costs. Those ad banners are enough, not to mention the stuff they sell.
Sourceforge is kind of the same thing, perhaps slightly higher operating costs. Have you ever noticed how slow downloads often are? Thats why bandwidth isn't an issue;). But they also have another business: that "SourceForge on site" thingy. Basically, they setup a private sourceforgish site for your network which you can use for your company. They make money providing the services they there, I'd imagine they use the same staff as runs sourceforge. SO they have a huge user base, keep costs down, get consulting, promote their hardware by improving the stuff available,... you see the point. Its actually quite beneficial to VA.
I was reading their page and couldn't help notice that UPS now stands for "universal power supply"... if it weren't for the fact that I can be pretty sure they had marketing person do their web page, it would really put me off from buying their products...
I actually think that the new ad sizes are better. The "old" size would just immediately get pushed off my screen as I scrolled away. That new Huge blob is ugly, but I think the ones with potential are the tall ones like on newsforge.com. They stick around for a bit.
Just to remind you all in case you hadn't read clearly, the reason he was able to get damages is because he is a small isp for friends and such. Unfortunately, the average person isn't so I'm not sure how much the law applies - no get rich quick aggregate and class action suits;(.
I've looked into non-ethernet setups, and determined that it's just not "here" yet pricewise (for me anyway). Phone line networking wasn't an option for me because 1) linux drivers aren't available for the internal cards (which all use the same chipset at this point), and 2) the ethernet-phone line routers are really expensive. Wireless has price issues as well.
I'd like to know how possible it will be to wire the house and keep the wires hidden, how its done, etc. (This is an 80 year old house...).
I had one company quote me $60 (Canadian) per hour to wire the place. Unless it takes them more then 7 or 8 hours, that will be cheaper then going with a HomePNA 2.0 (phone line networking) or 802.11b setup - and at 10x the speed with future upgradability (gigabit/whatever ethernet).
For those who want to remain 100% legal, it will still by OK to download an mp3 of a cd you own. So it only takes ONE person with the know-how, and its back into the fair use domain.
My school's AUP says that I can't forward emails which contain personal expressions or thoughts or something like that. The idea is that you can't embarrasses someone by forwarding the details of their last romantic encounter to someone or a list when you get pissed off at them. I think its perfectly reasonable and good to have.
sorry for the blank message, but what that said was:
even a slight change in the day cycle would cause BIG human health problems. NASA has tested this sort of thing.
for protocol in http ftp irc ssh smtp; do
for transport in ipv4 ipv6 ssh 10ghz; do
register_patent()
done
done
Now THAT is the easy way to get rich!;-)
its not linux compatible. Its yet another attempt to lock competitors out with proprietary formats, and then either immediately or eventually stop supporting their platform...
ok, aside from the fact that its a dangerous precedant (think mslinux.org), I have another interesting point:
Linux is linux. At what point does it become Debian? (or Redhat, or whatever). If I install it as suse, and then, upgrade some key components, is it now Debian? Is it still Suse?
Gar, and those ads which say "redhat compatible" are really annoying too
I go to a school where we support / use linux quite a bit (read: as much as possible). We were contacted by some grass roots thing for schools who asked if we were doing anything innovative or interesting, and we said that we were (most schools are all windows, plus we have some other special things mixed in there - linux related). They arranged a telephone interview, which they said would be about an hour. As soon as linux was mentioned by our IT head (near the start of the call), they said that they weren't interested. Why? Microsoft sponsored!
I'd really like to make some techno style stuff (like ATB etc.), but I'm not sure what software to use, or even where to start to find out. Any suggestions?
I think this is one more step to debian being a more accepted distro. It technically has many merits - but one of the common complaints is that its out of date.
Generally, they are called SDKs, or software development kits. You are right about one thing: people won't pay for uber-simple stuff. But people WILL pay for complex stuff, or stuff they might not be able to do themselves. To use your metaphors, people will pay for ICs (integrated circuits).
Slashdot Mirror
I don't think so. I more got the impression that they realized they couldn't push that on people.
How hard do you all think it would be to emulate their servers? Intercepting the phone call would be dead easy. Heck, we could even get the listings from the net and provide those too. Reverse engineer the protocol and enable whatever features you want! ;).
Actually, I think they do make money ;). But they also have another business: that "SourceForge on site" thingy. Basically, they setup a private sourceforgish site for your network which you can use for your company. They make money providing the services they there, I'd imagine they use the same staff as runs sourceforge. SO they have a huge user base, keep costs down, get consulting, promote their hardware by improving the stuff available, ... you see the point. Its actually quite beneficial to VA.
Look closely at what they have. Look at slashdot. Slashdot can afford to hire a bunch of people to submit stories and fly around to conferences and still is profitable. Why? Simple: it has a HUGE user base, and low operating costs. Those ad banners are enough, not to mention the stuff they sell.
Sourceforge is kind of the same thing, perhaps slightly higher operating costs. Have you ever noticed how slow downloads often are? Thats why bandwidth isn't an issue
kinda like they sometimes bust drug lords for tax evasion ;)
Remember how they tried to lock samba out of win2k? Well we solved that one... we can solve this too ;)
Can someone explain to me why? Does it have something to do with the multi-lingual domains they want to introduce?
I was reading their page and couldn't help notice that UPS now stands for "universal power supply"... if it weren't for the fact that I can be pretty sure they had marketing person do their web page, it would really put me off from buying their products...
I actually think that the new ad sizes are better. The "old" size would just immediately get pushed off my screen as I scrolled away. That new Huge blob is ugly, but I think the ones with potential are the tall ones like on newsforge.com. They stick around for a bit.
Just to remind you all in case you hadn't read clearly, the reason he was able to get damages is because he is a small isp for friends and such. Unfortunately, the average person isn't so I'm not sure how much the law applies - no get rich quick aggregate and class action suits ;(.
I've looked into non-ethernet setups, and determined that it's just not "here" yet pricewise (for me anyway). Phone line networking wasn't an option for me because 1) linux drivers aren't available for the internal cards (which all use the same chipset at this point), and 2) the ethernet-phone line routers are really expensive. Wireless has price issues as well.
I'd like to know how possible it will be to wire the house and keep the wires hidden, how its done, etc. (This is an 80 year old house...).
I had one company quote me $60 (Canadian) per hour to wire the place. Unless it takes them more then 7 or 8 hours, that will be cheaper then going with a HomePNA 2.0 (phone line networking) or 802.11b setup - and at 10x the speed with future upgradability (gigabit/whatever ethernet).
no no no! its not the web site, its the phone line... it IS an 800 number after all... just remember, 1-800-webhost!
For those who want to remain 100% legal, it will still by OK to download an mp3 of a cd you own. So it only takes ONE person with the know-how, and its back into the fair use domain.
Well, then we can just make a perfect digital copy and you'll happily decrypt that!
My school's AUP says that I can't forward emails which contain personal expressions or thoughts or something like that. The idea is that you can't embarrasses someone by forwarding the details of their last romantic encounter to someone or a list when you get pissed off at them. I think its perfectly reasonable and good to have.
Is it just me, or has anyone else seen those clearnet ads featuring a penguin? I swear thats a modified tux...
a GREAT example of this is VCDs... they never really made it here.. although it wouldn't suprise me if the MPAA had something to do with that.
sorry for the blank message, but what that said was:
even a slight change in the day cycle would cause BIG human health problems. NASA has tested this sort of thing.
for protocol in http ftp irc ssh smtp; do ;-)
for transport in ipv4 ipv6 ssh 10ghz; do
register_patent()
done
done
Now THAT is the easy way to get rich!
its not linux compatible. Its yet another attempt to lock competitors out with proprietary formats, and then either immediately or eventually stop supporting their platform...
ok, aside from the fact that its a dangerous precedant (think mslinux.org), I have another interesting point:
Linux is linux. At what point does it become Debian? (or Redhat, or whatever). If I install it as suse, and then, upgrade some key components, is it now Debian? Is it still Suse?
Gar, and those ads which say "redhat compatible" are really annoying too
I go to a school where we support / use linux quite a bit (read: as much as possible). We were contacted by some grass roots thing for schools who asked if we were doing anything innovative or interesting, and we said that we were (most schools are all windows, plus we have some other special things mixed in there - linux related). They arranged a telephone interview, which they said would be about an hour. As soon as linux was mentioned by our IT head (near the start of the call), they said that they weren't interested. Why? Microsoft sponsored!
As long as it filters out goatse.cx, I'm not sure how opposed I am! ;)
I'd really like to make some techno style stuff (like ATB etc.), but I'm not sure what software to use, or even where to start to find out. Any suggestions?
I think this is one more step to debian being a more accepted distro. It technically has many merits - but one of the common complaints is that its out of date.
Generally, they are called SDKs, or software development kits. You are right about one thing: people won't pay for uber-simple stuff. But people WILL pay for complex stuff, or stuff they might not be able to do themselves. To use your metaphors, people will pay for ICs (integrated circuits).