Not here you don't. Here you put it into the request system (the one we bought sucks but whatever) or you get shit. Of course once it is in the sytem you need to do it. Oh btw Magic (http://www.networkassociates.com/us/products/magi c/home.asp) sucks and blows chunks at the same time
Who is to say that r00tkits are not? Maybe they are the really smart ones just using the kiddies as hosts. Every think of that smarty smarty go to a party?
My favorite use is figuring out how many tablespoons it takes to do 1/3 of a cup when I can't find my plunger cup. Damn children stealing my gear.:)
BTW 5.3 is the answer
Re:What's wrong with national IDs?
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Becuase they do not buy any security and they open many holes. You may trust your government enough to know everything about you and to keep it all in one great big database but you have to keep in mind that here in America we don't so much. In fact we are an entire country founded on the thought that the government should get the fuck out of our lives. National IDs do nothing for security they do nothing to prevent idenitity theft they do nothing but put all of your personal info in one database that can be abused by those who have access to it and broken into and abused by those who do not. In Beyond Fear Bruce goes through this with the 5 step process. You spend a large amount of money and get nothing in return.
Think about it for a moment and I can only speak for the US but I'll walk you through the process.
I have a drivers license and a Social Security card. With those two forms of ID I can get any other form of ID that we have here in the US. Those two pieces of ID are in turn based on a birth cert. You can get a birth cert for a couple of hundred dollars. To implement a national ID they would have to figure out someway to figure out who everybody is and at this point it is impossible to prove who anyone is beyond accepting what their current IDs say. See the problem yet?
So national IDs will just give you another ID that says that you are who you claim to be. But if I don't like being that person anymore it would take a couple of hundred dollars and a bit of time to be someone else. There is *no* way that you can prove that anyone is anyone. Trying to do so is pointless and will merely cause problems for honest folks.
a year and a half ago these folks got me a job. http://www.triadtechnology.com/
It started out as a 6 month contract gig and they helped me turn it into a full time job that has been *great*. They did everything the book said they should and worked well with the place I work now when it came time to convert
End users can and should be patched by pushing them down over the network. Servers you need to test for but you need to get on it and they should. I'm a net admin and have ~5 servers that I just *know* are going to get infected. I can't wait till I get to take them off the network till the fucks patch them. Going to be fun.
If you saw some of the sniffs from stuff built by devs who don't know HTTP and then hear them wonder why their stuff is slow you would change your mind. If devs had a basic understanding of HTTP then maybe just maybe they would build stuff that did not use insane amounts or bandwidth.
No it is there are more than one kind of admin. For example as a network/security admin it is *very* usefull for me to be able to find out what version of things my lusers have on cloud facing boxen. It is not a good thing that many of those lusers have agendas that are not in line with my needs but it is a fact of life so a tool like this can help me out. Granted I can and do use Nessus but nmap is quick and easy and more tools are better. Also when trying to track down rouge boxen it is a godsend. Admin != sys admin and for other types this is a great thing.
IMO Symantec McAfee and their ilk write ~%90 of this stuff. I think they are as corrupt as the day is long and just wish I could figure out how to track this back to them.
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Yes they do
F -8 &oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=julie+strain&sa=N&tab =wi
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UT
He said $50 no $500,000 there is just a bit of a diff there.
Not here you don't. Here you put it into the request system (the one we bought sucks but whatever) or you get shit. Of course once it is in the sytem you need to do it. Oh btw Magic (http://www.networkassociates.com/us/products/magi c/home.asp)
sucks and blows chunks at the same time
Who is to say that r00tkits are not? Maybe they are the really smart ones just using the kiddies as hosts. Every think of that smarty smarty go to a party?
My favorite use is figuring out how many tablespoons it takes to do 1/3 of a cup when I can't find my plunger cup. Damn children stealing my gear. :)
BTW 5.3 is the answer
Becuase they do not buy any security and they open many holes.
You may trust your government enough to know everything about you and to keep it all in one great big database but you have to keep in mind that here in America we don't so much. In fact we are an entire country founded on the thought that the government should get the fuck out of our lives. National IDs do nothing for security they do nothing to prevent idenitity theft they do nothing but put all of your personal info in one database that can be abused by those who have access to it and broken into and abused by those who do not. In Beyond Fear Bruce goes through this with the 5 step process. You spend a large amount of money and get nothing in return.
Think about it for a moment and I can only speak for the US but I'll walk you through the process.
I have a drivers license and a Social Security card. With those two forms of ID I can get any other form of ID that we have here in the US. Those two pieces of ID are in turn based on a birth cert. You can get a birth cert for a couple of hundred dollars. To implement a national ID they would have to figure out someway to figure out who everybody is and at this point it is impossible to prove who anyone is beyond accepting what their current IDs say. See the problem yet?
So national IDs will just give you another ID that says that you are who you claim to be. But if I don't like being that person anymore it would take a couple of hundred dollars and a bit of time to be someone else. There is *no* way that you can prove that anyone is anyone. Trying to do so is pointless and will merely cause problems for honest folks.
Thank you sir
Where is this UT2k3 disk of which you speak?
a year and a half ago these folks got me a job.
http://www.triadtechnology.com/
It started out as a 6 month contract gig and they helped me turn it into a full time job that has been *great*. They did everything the book said they should and worked well with the place I work now when it came time to convert
http://web.ask.com/web?q=google&o=0&qsrc=0&askbutt on.x=25&askbutton.y=8
OK here is what we need a boulder, an ant, a maggot the size of a man's thigh, and a dog.
:)
Who me no I have not been reading Quicksilver not me.
My Amazon pre order shipped today. :)
End users can and should be patched by pushing them down over the network. Servers you need to test for but you need to get on it and they should. I'm a net admin and have ~5 servers that I just *know* are going to get infected. I can't wait till I get to take them off the network till the fucks patch them. Going to be fun.
If you saw some of the sniffs from stuff built by devs who don't know HTTP and then hear them wonder why their stuff is slow you would change your mind. If devs had a basic understanding of HTTP then maybe just maybe they would build stuff that did not use insane amounts or bandwidth.
No it is there are more than one kind of admin. For example as a network/security admin it is *very* usefull for me to be able to find out what version of things my lusers have on cloud facing boxen. It is not a good thing that many of those lusers have agendas that are not in line with my needs but it is a fact of life so a tool like this can help me out. Granted I can and do use Nessus but nmap is quick and easy and more tools are better. Also when trying to track down rouge boxen it is a godsend. Admin != sys admin and for other types this is a great thing.
Yup we used those in the Air Farce I always wanted one for home. :)
The software this card is supposed to be used for runs into the 10s of thousands for one seat. So yes that performance increase is well worth it.
I know that is what taxes are for and that is why I'm a registerad Libertarian
So the government should force me to pay for a system that I don't want or need so other people can use it?
No wonder I hate all of mankind.
Yes yes there is.
Cairo was Win 98 I think.
Yes yes I do.
Will never happen. See my earlier post about most of this stuff coming from the AV companies. Nice littel business model for them. :)
IMO Symantec McAfee and their ilk write ~%90 of this stuff. I think they are as corrupt as the day is long and just wish I could figure out how to track this back to them.
MPE (kind of)e OS
TRON http://www.tron.org/index-e.html
VMS
Netware
B
and some others that might have already been listed
http://srom.zgp.org/