Oh! I thought you were talking about Obama/Sarkozy's assisting Al-queda take over Libya.
Citation or it didn't happen.
I was certain he was referring to Reagan/Bush selling missiles to Iran, funding the Contras, paying terrorists to hold Marines hostage, setting up the original Al Qaeda training camps, and so on, and so forth.
What's that? You were just looking for an opportunity to blatantly bash 'liberals,' as if neocons aren't guilty of the same (or worse) crimes?
As to the reason for the termination of Williams' contract, NPR’s President and CEO Vivian Schiller offered the following comment: "News analysts may not take personal public positions on controversial issues; doing so undermines their credibility as analysts..."
Williams was terminated for the same reason your post should not be modded Informative; he was acting as a pundit and spouting his opinion (which just so happened to be a prime example of xenophobic hysteria) while misrepresenting himself to be a credible news analyst.
While hyperbole might make for good TV and Slashdot posts, it's not really appropriate for someone whose job is to report factual information.
Herp Derp. They are making appliances with timers now. I can tell my dishwasher to run in the middle of the night.
So, the dishwasher is the only appliance you run when you're off work? no TV, laptop, light bulbs, gaming console, radio, etc., etc. etc.? Why not put them on all timers to run during "off-peak" hours; I mean, if you're going to put that much effort into saving the power company money, why not go full bore?
Oh, and never mind the fact that if enough people move their power usage to "off-peak hours," those hours are no longer off-peak.
May I introduce you to the concept of a timer? Something that might turn your hot water heater or your clothes dryer on at night?
Words of someone who has never awakened in a house set ablaze by a dryer fire.
It would not be difficult to design newer clothes dryers and dishwashers to go on at night when the power is cheaper. One could even cobble up an aftermarket gizmo to do that. Obviously won't work for everything in the house, but even a 10% reduction in peak load is a considerable savings to a power company.
Since when is it my responsibility, as the customer, to spend my money and time making devices that save the power company money?
For somebody with "Do It Yourself' in your nic, you seem kinda stuck.
Or, I'm not sucker. DIY is for my benefit, not that of the utility company.
One solution would be to use Google Voice and allow the call to be recorded on Google's system. Then you can access the recording from your phone, your computer, etc. I got my GV number well before you could "port" a number to GV, so I got a new number. I know that is a deal breaker for some folks so look into porting your existing number to GV. It definitely lets you record calls with no problem at all.
I guess I should point out that the service is still mostly USA only.
Although my goal would be to have a local recording (i.e., process is not reliant on someone else's equipment), I'll have to check your solution out. While not ideal, it's better than nothing.
The primary purpose is to provide an incentive for customers to shift energy use to non-peak hours. By doing that the peak load is reduced, which is a big cost saver for the utilities (less total generation and transmission capacity required).
Well, easy enough then; it's not as if most people's schedules are determined by outlying factors or anything.../sarc
That's some serious mental gymnastics they must do if they honestly believe such nonsense. How am I or anyone else supposed to "shift energy use to non-peak hours" when our working schedules are determined by our employers? Surely the people running these utilities (who, consequently, tend to work 8-5 jobs as well) aren't so dumb as to think that's a viable strategy, are they?
Sadly your links do not help me, for I must be retarded. Can you try again, this time explaining, with very small words, what concepts you are referring to, and how they bolster your argument that the two concepts were not being compared?
Your problem is, you're assigning associative properties to posts for which no association is made;
Here's the original post:
Here is an example. Your job is to sell your product to a foreign country (You sell a good product at a good price). In this country offering bribes is common and legal, however it is considered immoral and illegal for you and your culture and country to offer the bribes. So you go to the business deal the the owner says, you are offering a fine offer however what is in it for me (wink, wink).
Do you.
1. Turn down the bribe and loose the business.
2. Offer the bribe and hope they don't find out.
3. Offer to close the deal near your headquarters in Orlando Florida, and give him prepaid tickets and cover expenses (and his family who should be leaving his side) to come to headquarters to fill out the deal.
That was a question all its own. The post you originally replied to contained a different question, albiet following the same guidelines. to wit:
If it were customary in some country to murder a dozen orphans to celebrate closing a deal, while it is obviously illegal (and considered somewhat unethical) to do so in your country,
Thus, we can clearly see that post 2 is a completely different question than post 1; post 1 asked "would you:
A) Take the moral high road by not taking the bribe, and thus losing the sale, B) Take a bribe to make the deal, even though it is ethically and legally wrong to do so, or C) Invite the client to your office to make the deal, although how this applies to the morality of taking bribes is beyond me; I assume the point of flying the client in would be to get away from the country where bribes are commonplace, thus removing the moral question altogether.
Consequently, post 2 swapped "bribe" with "murder orphan children," yet maintained the same question format ("would you A, B, or C"):
A) Turn down the offer to murder orphans and likely lose the sale. B) Go ahead and murder the orphans, and hope the authorities don't find out, or C) Bring the client to your country (where murdering orphans to close deals is not commonplace).
So clearly, It's not that the second poster was comparing bribery to child murder, but rather substituting child murder for bribery; I presume this is because the taking of bribes is likely considered by many (who take bribes) to be a moral 'grey' area, whereas the wholesale slaughter of bastard children is considered wrong across the board.
OP was not assuming that a person who takes bribes also slaughters orphans; you assigned that association yourself, hence the links to reading comprehension worksheets. What can I say, I like to help people. I also tend to be a dick about it, as I've never been one who could suffer fools gladly.
In conclusion, the 2 questions were completely unrelated, save for the format of the response. If you continue having problems understanding the difference, I encourage you to work through some of the reading comprehension worksheets I linked to.
Otherwise, I shall refer you to the response given in Arkell v Pressdram.
At last check (which, granted, was several months ago) all "call recording" apps for the DX do not record the call stream, but rather use the speaker to record calls through the mic.
But by all means, continue with your childish assumptions. After all, what fun would the internet be if everyone actually owned a clue?
I've been waiting for an app that allows me to directly record calls on my DX... now, it seems someone has figured out how to make that happen.
On the downside, they stuck the code in some malware I have no intention of installing.
On the up side, someone wrote the code that allows such recording, so making an app that utilizes said code without the whole 'botnet' aspect should be fairly easy, right?
The GP's question, rephrased: "Offering bribes is unethical, but you're willing to do it for cultural reasons. Well, what if murdering orphans was a cultural tradition. Would you do it then?" For fuck's sake, YOU compared the two by basically asking "Since your job requires offering bribes, if your job required orphan killing would you ALSO be ok with MURDERING ORPHANS, you scum?"
But whatever, I'm obviously in the minority here, and I'm getting more pissed off than it's worth. I'll keep taking my clients to lunch to keep my little shop running, and hope my competitors agree with all you dumbasses.
Yea, you do that, since you obviously need all the practice talking to folks without being a total self-absorbed dick that you can get.
Your comparison of flying my new Chinese buddy out here so the board and I can chat with him about the direction we're taking the semiconductor division over the next 4 years to murdering orphans is stupid as hell.... it's about doing your fuckin job, which, in sales, is to make and maintain as many relationships as you can.
So, if your fuckin job required you to murder orphans, you'd do it? Because that's what OP was asking.
Where you got the idea they were comparing client flights to orphan murder is know only to you and your Creator.
I'll take Option 4: Avoid idiotic, leading question written so there is no right answer while maintaining personal ethics, by someone with an obvious agenda to create a fantasy world where doing the wrong thing is the only way to survive.
I don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy walking down the street.
You do, however, have the reasonable expectation that strangers are not going to reach into your pockets and rifle through your personal effects.
You also have a reasonable expectation that strangers are not going to follow you around and keep track of your every move. If they do, you can reasonably expect a LEO to at least question their behavior (especially if you are a minor and they are not).
Sometimes I'm amazed at people's perception of privacy, and how they honestly believe it no longer exists the moment you step outside your residence.
Only if we're talking about a pathway for electric current to flow through [busses]. If we're discussing multi-passenger mass transit vehicles, there would only be two [buses]
No, they'll just stop offering it, like they did with the "ME1 comic book" DLC for PS3 ME2 that I never got to go through because I just bought ME2 about a month ago... which means I'm stuck with the 'default' choices from ME1.
That is, unless I'm blind and missed where to download it?
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We are animals of extinct.
Gotta love it when the typo is far more profound than the actual thought a person is attempting to express.
Oh! I thought you were talking about Obama/Sarkozy's assisting Al-queda take over Libya.
Citation or it didn't happen.
I was certain he was referring to Reagan/Bush selling missiles to Iran, funding the Contras, paying terrorists to hold Marines hostage, setting up the original Al Qaeda training camps, and so on, and so forth.
What's that? You were just looking for an opportunity to blatantly bash 'liberals,' as if neocons aren't guilty of the same (or worse) crimes?
Well, color me "surprised."
Honestly, SHUT UP about "government-funded" already.
This.
If NPR were truly "government funded," they wouldn't be be running ads for oil and pharmaceutical companies.
As to the reason for the termination of Williams' contract, NPR’s President and CEO Vivian Schiller offered the following comment: "News analysts may not take personal public positions on controversial issues; doing so undermines their credibility as analysts..."
Williams was terminated for the same reason your post should not be modded Informative; he was acting as a pundit and spouting his opinion (which just so happened to be a prime example of xenophobic hysteria) while misrepresenting himself to be a credible news analyst.
While hyperbole might make for good TV and Slashdot posts, it's not really appropriate for someone whose job is to report factual information.
Herp Derp. They are making appliances with timers now. I can tell my dishwasher to run in the middle of the night.
So, the dishwasher is the only appliance you run when you're off work? no TV, laptop, light bulbs, gaming console, radio, etc., etc. etc.? Why not put them on all timers to run during "off-peak" hours; I mean, if you're going to put that much effort into saving the power company money, why not go full bore?
Oh, and never mind the fact that if enough people move their power usage to "off-peak hours," those hours are no longer off-peak.
"Herp Derp" indeed.
From a pure Darwinist point of view, it means that the scumbags will thrive while the ethical intact will perish...
Explains a lot about modern society, doesn't it?
May I introduce you to the concept of a timer? Something that might turn your hot water heater or your clothes dryer on at night?
Words of someone who has never awakened in a house set ablaze by a dryer fire.
It would not be difficult to design newer clothes dryers and dishwashers to go on at night when the power is cheaper. One could even cobble up an aftermarket gizmo to do that. Obviously won't work for everything in the house, but even a 10% reduction in peak load is a considerable savings to a power company.
Since when is it my responsibility, as the customer, to spend my money and time making devices that save the power company money?
For somebody with "Do It Yourself' in your nic, you seem kinda stuck.
Or, I'm not sucker. DIY is for my benefit, not that of the utility company.
One solution would be to use Google Voice and allow the call to be recorded on Google's system. Then you can access the recording from your phone, your computer, etc. I got my GV number well before you could "port" a number to GV, so I got a new number. I know that is a deal breaker for some folks so look into porting your existing number to GV. It definitely lets you record calls with no problem at all. I guess I should point out that the service is still mostly USA only.
Although my goal would be to have a local recording (i.e., process is not reliant on someone else's equipment), I'll have to check your solution out. While not ideal, it's better than nothing.
Much 'preciated.
The primary purpose is to provide an incentive for customers to shift energy use to non-peak hours. By doing that the peak load is reduced, which is a big cost saver for the utilities (less total generation and transmission capacity required).
Well, easy enough then; it's not as if most people's schedules are determined by outlying factors or anything... /sarc
That's some serious mental gymnastics they must do if they honestly believe such nonsense. How am I or anyone else supposed to "shift energy use to non-peak hours" when our working schedules are determined by our employers? Surely the people running these utilities (who, consequently, tend to work 8-5 jobs as well) aren't so dumb as to think that's a viable strategy, are they?
Does 2600 still have photos of phone booths from around the world on the back cover? That was the highlight of my month back in my teenage years...
Bullfeathers, I meant what I said you whipper-snapper!
What's next, you're going to tell me that taking a picture doesn't require the subject to hold perfectly still for 30 minutes? Poppycock, I say!
Geeks are the most selfish and entitled people on the planet.
You've obviously never met a politician, or executive type.
What the fuck is a 'phone booth?'
Anything like those horseless carriages I keep hearing so much about?
Sadly your links do not help me, for I must be retarded. Can you try again, this time explaining, with very small words, what concepts you are referring to, and how they bolster your argument that the two concepts were not being compared?
Your problem is, you're assigning associative properties to posts for which no association is made;
Here's the original post:
That was a question all its own. The post you originally replied to contained a different question, albiet following the same guidelines. to wit:
Thus, we can clearly see that post 2 is a completely different question than post 1; post 1 asked "would you:
A) Take the moral high road by not taking the bribe, and thus losing the sale,
B) Take a bribe to make the deal, even though it is ethically and legally wrong to do so, or
C) Invite the client to your office to make the deal, although how this applies to the morality of taking bribes is beyond me; I assume the point of flying the client in would be to get away from the country where bribes are commonplace, thus removing the moral question altogether.
Consequently, post 2 swapped "bribe" with "murder orphan children," yet maintained the same question format ("would you A, B, or C"):
A) Turn down the offer to murder orphans and likely lose the sale.
B) Go ahead and murder the orphans, and hope the authorities don't find out, or
C) Bring the client to your country (where murdering orphans to close deals is not commonplace).
So clearly, It's not that the second poster was comparing bribery to child murder, but rather substituting child murder for bribery; I presume this is because the taking of bribes is likely considered by many (who take bribes) to be a moral 'grey' area, whereas the wholesale slaughter of bastard children is considered wrong across the board.
OP was not assuming that a person who takes bribes also slaughters orphans; you assigned that association yourself, hence the links to reading comprehension worksheets. What can I say, I like to help people. I also tend to be a dick about it, as I've never been one who could suffer fools gladly.
In conclusion, the 2 questions were completely unrelated, save for the format of the response. If you continue having problems understanding the difference, I encourage you to work through some of the reading comprehension worksheets I linked to.
Otherwise, I shall refer you to the response given in Arkell v Pressdram.
ohh please stop trolling and use the Market/Play search box
At last check (which, granted, was several months ago) all "call recording" apps for the DX do not record the call stream, but rather use the speaker to record calls through the mic.
But by all means, continue with your childish assumptions. After all, what fun would the internet be if everyone actually owned a clue?
You took the text right off my keyboard, vlm.
I've been waiting for an app that allows me to directly record calls on my DX... now, it seems someone has figured out how to make that happen.
On the downside, they stuck the code in some malware I have no intention of installing.
On the up side, someone wrote the code that allows such recording, so making an app that utilizes said code without the whole 'botnet' aspect should be fairly easy, right?
How are the two NOT being compared?
Here, this should help: http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm
The GP's question, rephrased: "Offering bribes is unethical, but you're willing to do it for cultural reasons. Well, what if murdering orphans was a cultural tradition. Would you do it then?" For fuck's sake, YOU compared the two by basically asking "Since your job requires offering bribes, if your job required orphan killing would you ALSO be ok with MURDERING ORPHANS, you scum?"
Again: http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm
But whatever, I'm obviously in the minority here, and I'm getting more pissed off than it's worth. I'll keep taking my clients to lunch to keep my little shop running, and hope my competitors agree with all you dumbasses.
Yea, you do that, since you obviously need all the practice talking to folks without being a total self-absorbed dick that you can get.
Your comparison of flying my new Chinese buddy out here so the board and I can chat with him about the direction we're taking the semiconductor division over the next 4 years to murdering orphans is stupid as hell.... it's about doing your fuckin job, which, in sales, is to make and maintain as many relationships as you can.
So, if your fuckin job required you to murder orphans, you'd do it? Because that's what OP was asking.
Where you got the idea they were comparing client flights to orphan murder is know only to you and your Creator.
I'll take Option 4: Avoid idiotic, leading question written so there is no right answer while maintaining personal ethics, by someone with an obvious agenda to create a fantasy world where doing the wrong thing is the only way to survive.
We were talking about ethical people. Or are you saying there's no ethical people in reality?
There are, but they all drowned trying to save those who are not.
I don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy walking down the street.
You do, however, have the reasonable expectation that strangers are not going to reach into your pockets and rifle through your personal effects.
You also have a reasonable expectation that strangers are not going to follow you around and keep track of your every move. If they do, you can reasonably expect a LEO to at least question their behavior (especially if you are a minor and they are not).
Sometimes I'm amazed at people's perception of privacy, and how they honestly believe it no longer exists the moment you step outside your residence.
Looks like Tesla (and the Nazi's) beat ya to it, Goog.
Why, is it spelled with three 's's'?
Only if we're talking about a pathway for electric current to flow through [busses]. If we're discussing multi-passenger mass transit vehicles, there would only be two [buses]
how the hell do you pluralize the letter 's'?
http://theenglishspace.com/spelling/plurals-ending-s.html
No, they'll just stop offering it, like they did with the "ME1 comic book" DLC for PS3 ME2 that I never got to go through because I just bought ME2 about a month ago... which means I'm stuck with the 'default' choices from ME1.
That is, unless I'm blind and missed where to download it?