One thing that will live on...
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... is the SDL. Made by a Loki employee (forgot which one, someone help me here) to help the porting process for DirectX, I believe. Its a nice package for any linux developers that want to make games...
But the askslashdot author wants to make the book free. Sounds like he doesn't need a profit. So, perhaps, he can just make a little side cash. Even if one person pays for it, its more money than he is currently expecting.
Bruce Eckel publishes books (like "Thinking in Java") as both a free online book, yet sells the printed copy. What he does is publishes the book like normal, but also makes them available for free on his webpage. So if you ever need it to reference, you can jump online to read it. And to support him, most people buy a copy of his book. Its the best of both worlds.
Another nice advantage is he has books that he isn't finished with available online ("Thinking in Patterns" is one of his), where people can read it and give him feedback before he takes it to the press... Check grammar, find things that are easier to reword, play around with his example code, etc... Its almost like an open source project right there. And he makes money on his books (cause, any java coder that has read "Thinking in Java" owns a copy. Its like a Bible for Java).
People move to a small town to avoid EMP's, cause it makes'em sick...
People move to a mansion in LA to commit suicide to travel their 'vehicles' onto a comets tail...
My uncle Ned thinks that all the spiders in the world are his pets...
Some people are whackjobs. Congrats. Can we get on with the regular news, now?
I don't have any credible data, but being in the hospital yesterday, they absolutely, positively, do not allow cell phones or other wireless devices on cardiac floors. They, supposedly, interfere with pacemakers and other devices.
Now, honestly, you guys think you can put your technology down for one town? I don't know of anyone that has something so important to do on a wireless conneciton to put a pacemaker-person's (is that a pacemakee??) life at risk..
But, then again, you have to be pretty close to that pacemaker.... shrug...
I'll have to agree with you on that one. Even though the second mummy was just the SFX guys having fun with extra money. The first one, though, was a very indy-like action film. I'd watch a brendan fraiser indiana jones. But Bradd Pitt? I don't think so...
Re:The troll phenomenon in society??
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when you look at debating, you can already see trolling in real life. People do not argue to defend the positions they agree with, they argue for the sake of argument, and often use troll-like statements to lure other people into discussions etc
I see your point, and now that I think about it, I think I actually do that quite a bit myself... heh
You're just lucky that a sense of social awareness prohibits the debaters to emulate goatse like poses:-)
THANK GOD!;-)
A good article indeed btw.
I think this article is up there with the Hellmouth series Katz has written... Maybe Jon will get back into good techie stuff and less on the whole politics stuff.
The troll phenomenon in society??
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You aren't going to believe this, but GREAT ARTICLE JON!!
What I'm really interested in is how 'trolling' will affect the future cultures.
Because people can hide behind usernames (or anonymity) they are usually more forward and aren't afraid to start a large fight. How will this affect future generations? Will it make it more violent? Or, maybe, the personal (physical) confrontation will cause more shyness and less violence.
Its interesting how we blow off the 'troll phenomenon' on the internet (although, they tend to remind us they are there with their goatse ascii art), but it may cause a major change in society!
If you don't like the DMCA and want to make a 'suck' site from it, you should go grab:
DMCARules.com
Then make it a suck site. That way, instead of just making a suck site that hardly anyone will go to, you make a site where the trolls are your friends!
I think that most webcomic writers do what they do for the fun they have drawing/writing comics. I don't think its much of a business thing. Take PVP. Scott gets profit from writing actual comic books (although, I'm sure, he probably gets some good money from the site also).
And then there's Sluggy Freelance (a GREAT comic if you people havne't read it yet) where he puts collections together and sells them as books.
I don't think there is much profit in the webcomic business....
Well, if that isn't a loaded question...:-P
Of course 99% of the community will say Linux, but I'll be the guy modded down that says go with Win2K. Don't do anything too hairy with the Win2K boxes (to get it so you don't need to worry about crashes), but MS makes good GUI's. Its easier to understand point-and-click with people that don't know how to use a mouse, than command line execution in a shell window.
Sure, you can spend mucho time getting SuSE (or GNOME) to have nothing but point and click, but I ask one question:
What do you have more of (or, more freedom of)?:
Time to setup the systems, or
Money to buy the systems?
1. Duh. Of course more moderator points are spent modding people down. Thats because there are unfortunately more trolls and crapflooders than there are insightful posts.[...snip...]
This isn't the solution to the problem. If there are more trolls & crapflooders than insightful posts, its not just a coincidence. Obviously, something has gone wrong with slashdot (perhaps the choice of articles? Perhaps something else).
But adding aggressive moderation and (corruptible) absolute rule is only making the problem WORSE. More people are becoming trolls and crapflooders because of it.
2. Logged in people are modded down faster than anonymous cowards. You really mean to say that logged in trolls are modded down than anonymous trolls, right?
Anonymous needs to be looked at first. Logged in trolls usually get -1 fast, so anonymous needs to be checked first (plus, when people have karma and want to troll, they click the infamous "post anonymously" button).
3. Once you have a karma of -4 or -5, your posts have a score of -1 by default. Who cares? Once a post is -1, it can't be modded any lower, so why would someone bother modding it down even further. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here, but you make no sense.
When someone logs in here first, they may not know the etiquette of slashdot posting, and after 1 (yes, just ONE) down moderation, they auto-post at 0. Its hard to recover from something like that.
4. Substituting Windows for BSD to make a Windows is Dying post is not clever. The only people who would think the sex with goats post is funny are the trolls themselves. But again, subjective.
Just try and bash windows. Make it semi-on topic. You'll gain all the karma you want
5. Now this is really funny. You are going back to a poll which took place before there even was moderation. How could people even know they didn't want what is here today?(hint: it wasn't even an option).
True, but this is a poll that needs to be redone to see what the community wants now.
What about grand theft auto 3 where you get points for killing cops?
You're bringing up a troll we haven't seen in a while. If you can't handle the reallife-like killing, you shouldn't play the game (and stop watching the news). FPS games are for people that know how to identify "real" with "imagination".
Try DOD. Seriously. Play as an Allies, with a big gun and go after those nazi bastards. Play with a sniper rifle, go into a building that's been ripped up with holes in it, and get the feeling from the movie "enemy at the gates". Seriously, I get so much more out of DOD than RTCW.
Honestly, why spend the money if you already have Halflife? It runs on linux (well), and with the Day Of Defeat Mod, you have a better game then RTCW (although the DOD mod is multiplayer only right now).
Honestly, I didn't think RTCW is all that, and don't know why people are going nuts about it. Its living on name alone, IMNSHO.
Most Halflife, Quake, and UT mods have already explored most of the FPS phenomenon if you just check them out...
Isn't it funny that Michael took the time to update the article to claim "its not Seti@home", but didn't bother to update the article to claim "this was already posted yesterday, sorry about the repeat"?
What's the difference between being professional, and unprofessional? Admitting a problem and resolving it. Wish slashdot editors were professional... But I guess its whats expected when a college project becomes monetarily productive (like the dotcom's).
What do you expect. If you make a product that competes agressively, and you spent money to buy the rights to show the olympics online, are you going to cater to your product or to all?
Sure, your conscience says "To all, because that's what the olympics stand for!" But in capitalists minds, its "Crush the competition"
In the end, its both legal, and the way of our economy. So, basically, "tough sh*t".
Mike & Tim. You need to talk to one another on an hourly basis. You guys are the biggest offenders of repeat articles. This was covered in the slashback yesterday...
Re:The first Slashdot troll post investigation
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Its a pointless battle. I'm in, have been in it. I would just like to see what moderations are editor moderations vs. user moderations. I bet over half the mods on your post (currently 134!!!!) are editor moderations...
Slashdot Mirror
... is the SDL. Made by a Loki employee (forgot which one, someone help me here) to help the porting process for DirectX, I believe. Its a nice package for any linux developers that want to make games...
the first link autocloses the window...
And am I the only one that thought "Wow, Blizzard stopped coding for WarCraft 3 to help Mozilla out?!?"
Now that Gnome is maturing and releasing 2.0, it looks like KDE is stepping it up to steal some of Gnomes limelight...
Please note that I did -not- pick a side. Lets not break out into religious wars, please...
But the askslashdot author wants to make the book free. Sounds like he doesn't need a profit. So, perhaps, he can just make a little side cash. Even if one person pays for it, its more money than he is currently expecting.
Bruce Eckel publishes books (like "Thinking in Java") as both a free online book, yet sells the printed copy. What he does is publishes the book like normal, but also makes them available for free on his webpage. So if you ever need it to reference, you can jump online to read it. And to support him, most people buy a copy of his book. Its the best of both worlds.
Another nice advantage is he has books that he isn't finished with available online ("Thinking in Patterns" is one of his), where people can read it and give him feedback before he takes it to the press... Check grammar, find things that are easier to reword, play around with his example code, etc... Its almost like an open source project right there. And he makes money on his books (cause, any java coder that has read "Thinking in Java" owns a copy. Its like a Bible for Java).
This may be a technique you may consider...
... at least we don't have to worry about http://www.goatse.tv/!
Does that mean no more bathroom server?
People move to a small town to avoid EMP's, cause it makes'em sick...
People move to a mansion in LA to commit suicide to travel their 'vehicles' onto a comets tail...
My uncle Ned thinks that all the spiders in the world are his pets...
Some people are whackjobs. Congrats. Can we get on with the regular news, now?
I don't have any credible data, but being in the hospital yesterday, they absolutely, positively, do not allow cell phones or other wireless devices on cardiac floors. They, supposedly, interfere with pacemakers and other devices.
Now, honestly, you guys think you can put your technology down for one town? I don't know of anyone that has something so important to do on a wireless conneciton to put a pacemaker-person's (is that a pacemakee??) life at risk..
But, then again, you have to be pretty close to that pacemaker.... shrug...
I'll have to agree with you on that one. Even though the second mummy was just the SFX guys having fun with extra money. The first one, though, was a very indy-like action film. I'd watch a brendan fraiser indiana jones. But Bradd Pitt? I don't think so...
when you look at debating, you can already see trolling in real life. People do not argue to defend the positions they agree with, they argue for the sake of argument, and often use troll-like statements to lure other people into discussions etc
:-)
;-)
I see your point, and now that I think about it, I think I actually do that quite a bit myself... heh
You're just lucky that a sense of social awareness prohibits the debaters to emulate goatse like poses
THANK GOD!
A good article indeed btw.
I think this article is up there with the Hellmouth series Katz has written... Maybe Jon will get back into good techie stuff and less on the whole politics stuff.
You aren't going to believe this, but GREAT ARTICLE JON!!
What I'm really interested in is how 'trolling' will affect the future cultures.
Because people can hide behind usernames (or anonymity) they are usually more forward and aren't afraid to start a large fight. How will this affect future generations? Will it make it more violent? Or, maybe, the personal (physical) confrontation will cause more shyness and less violence.
Its interesting how we blow off the 'troll phenomenon' on the internet (although, they tend to remind us they are there with their goatse ascii art), but it may cause a major change in society!
If you don't like the DMCA and want to make a 'suck' site from it, you should go grab:
DMCARules.com
Then make it a suck site. That way, instead of just making a suck site that hardly anyone will go to, you make a site where the trolls are your friends!
I think that most webcomic writers do what they do for the fun they have drawing/writing comics. I don't think its much of a business thing. Take PVP. Scott gets profit from writing actual comic books (although, I'm sure, he probably gets some good money from the site also).
And then there's Sluggy Freelance (a GREAT comic if you people havne't read it yet) where he puts collections together and sells them as books.
I don't think there is much profit in the webcomic business....
Linux out in the open, with big company backing?
Or, are we going to start up with the "elitest want Linux to stay small"?
Linux (even the RedHat distro) has the GPL protecting it. Even AOL/TW's big lawyers can't break it. Why is it such a bad thing??
OS Choices
:-P
Well, if that isn't a loaded question...
Of course 99% of the community will say Linux, but I'll be the guy modded down that says go with Win2K. Don't do anything too hairy with the Win2K boxes (to get it so you don't need to worry about crashes), but MS makes good GUI's. Its easier to understand point-and-click with people that don't know how to use a mouse, than command line execution in a shell window.
Sure, you can spend mucho time getting SuSE (or GNOME) to have nothing but point and click, but I ask one question:
What do you have more of (or, more freedom of)?:
Time to setup the systems, or
Money to buy the systems?
This isn't the solution to the problem. If there are more trolls & crapflooders than insightful posts, its not just a coincidence. Obviously, something has gone wrong with slashdot (perhaps the choice of articles? Perhaps something else).
But adding aggressive moderation and (corruptible) absolute rule is only making the problem WORSE. More people are becoming trolls and crapflooders because of it.
2. Logged in people are modded down faster than anonymous cowards. You really mean to say that logged in trolls are modded down than anonymous trolls, right?
Anonymous needs to be looked at first. Logged in trolls usually get -1 fast, so anonymous needs to be checked first (plus, when people have karma and want to troll, they click the infamous "post anonymously" button).
3. Once you have a karma of -4 or -5, your posts have a score of -1 by default. Who cares? Once a post is -1, it can't be modded any lower, so why would someone bother modding it down even further. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here, but you make no sense.
When someone logs in here first, they may not know the etiquette of slashdot posting, and after 1 (yes, just ONE) down moderation, they auto-post at 0. Its hard to recover from something like that.
4. Substituting Windows for BSD to make a Windows is Dying post is not clever. The only people who would think the sex with goats post is funny are the trolls themselves. But again, subjective.
Just try and bash windows. Make it semi-on topic. You'll gain all the karma you want
5. Now this is really funny. You are going back to a poll which took place before there even was moderation. How could people even know they didn't want what is here today?(hint: it wasn't even an option).
True, but this is a poll that needs to be redone to see what the community wants now.
What about grand theft auto 3 where you get points for killing cops?
You're bringing up a troll we haven't seen in a while. If you can't handle the reallife-like killing, you shouldn't play the game (and stop watching the news). FPS games are for people that know how to identify "real" with "imagination".
Try DOD. Seriously. Play as an Allies, with a big gun and go after those nazi bastards. Play with a sniper rifle, go into a building that's been ripped up with holes in it, and get the feeling from the movie "enemy at the gates". Seriously, I get so much more out of DOD than RTCW.
The levels, alone, make all the difference...
Honestly, why spend the money if you already have Halflife? It runs on linux (well), and with the Day Of Defeat Mod, you have a better game then RTCW (although the DOD mod is multiplayer only right now).
Honestly, I didn't think RTCW is all that, and don't know why people are going nuts about it. Its living on name alone, IMNSHO.
Most Halflife, Quake, and UT mods have already explored most of the FPS phenomenon if you just check them out...
Isn't it funny that Michael took the time to update the article to claim "its not Seti@home", but didn't bother to update the article to claim "this was already posted yesterday, sorry about the repeat"?
What's the difference between being professional, and unprofessional? Admitting a problem and resolving it. Wish slashdot editors were professional... But I guess its whats expected when a college project becomes monetarily productive (like the dotcom's).
What do you expect. If you make a product that competes agressively, and you spent money to buy the rights to show the olympics online, are you going to cater to your product or to all?
Sure, your conscience says "To all, because that's what the olympics stand for!" But in capitalists minds, its "Crush the competition"
In the end, its both legal, and the way of our economy. So, basically, "tough sh*t".
Mike & Tim. You need to talk to one another on an hourly basis. You guys are the biggest offenders of repeat articles. This was covered in the slashback yesterday...
Its a pointless battle. I'm in, have been in it. I would just like to see what moderations are editor moderations vs. user moderations. I bet over half the mods on your post (currently 134!!!!) are editor moderations...
if you get the rope too short, you'll cut your finger off with a swift jerk ;-)