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Make sure you slip this into the fine print of your consulting contracts. Adn writes "Newsbytes is reporting in a story that David McOwen, who was facing some pretty serious charges will be let go with a fine as against a much harsher fate. If utilizing so called "unused cycles" for the greater good is a crime (I know he was not charged for that per se... but bear with me here) then makes you consider uninstalling all those SETI@Home Screensavers doesnt it? Also a larger question...If the law (in these kinds of cases) operates on the 'intent' of the accused, what is the justification for even considering it a crime?"
Playing games builds your mind and your hand-eye coordination. Bill Kendrick writes: "The results are in for the SDL Game Contest held by No Starch Press, Linux Journal and Loki Games.
First place was awarded to LBreakout by Michael Speck. Second place went to Tower Toppler by Andreas Roever. My own game, Vectoroids just barely made third place over another asteroids-style game, Rock Dodgers by Paul Holt.
Congratulations! The full list of games is listed on No Starch's results page."
Guaranteed not to be your average Slashdot book review! Alex Chiu writes "Hello. This is alex chiu. I have written an online book at http://superiching.com Teaching people how to communicate with God using I-Ching. This online book is free for everyone to read. It's at least 5 times bigger than alexchiu.com. If interested, please release this news."
You may remember Alex from the interview we did with him a little while ago -- truly a unique individual.
Flying blind and a long way from home. Vertigo01 writes: "According to this article on CNN.com, galileo has encountered some technical problems on its flyby of Io and "for unknown reasons, went into safe mode" ... (sounds like my last Win98 install) ... flight engineers hope to restore normal operation for the duration of Galileo's life, but it looks like we won't get any more pictures of Io out of her."
Victoria's Secret probably won't put this on the box. FortKnox writes "Spider Silk is long known to be one of the strongest biological structure made (5 times stronger than steel by weight). Biologists have already genetically engineered goats to produce spider silk in their milk. Now, they have successfully extracted the protein and "spun" the silk. The next, and final step, is to mass produce the silk to be available commercially. Move over kevlar, here comes something better! I want to have the first biologically built house! I wonder how insulated spider silk is...."
ummm... There are 8,000,000 kinds of break out. It was an orginal idea when Atari was out. Think I can get an award for remaking pong, oh wait.
They'll sue you for installing WindowsXP on company hardware. It wastes far more "unused" cycles than a mere distributed.net challange...
Make even shorter URLs - 8LN.org
Even at Five Times stronger than steel pales in Comparison to Spectra. I bet its a lot cooler though, and probably more stylish.
What, me worry?
If you know somebody is going to die, then why don't you give him an immortality device. Hmm, buf if you give him that, he won't die anymore, your prediction becomes fraud and the universe will then collapse into a singularity with infinite impropability.
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If code was hard to write, it should be hard to read
Heh. I initially read superiching.com as superitching.com, and I was just wondering what the market was for prank itching powder e-commerce.
;-)
Hmmm... now that I think about it... (goes off to register superitching.com)
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Karma: Excellent Birds (mostly as a result of listening to Laurie Anderson)
At least Super I-Ching doesn't charge by the minute. Unfortunately, I never seem to get through to God - I always seem to reach some joker named Gord, and he's none too happy about the bad listing in the directory.
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now all i need to do is get bitten by a radioactive spider, and then i can get the webbing from those dudes.... I will be Spider-Gavitron_ZERO
Why should this guy's community service be "not related to computers"? If thats what he's best at, then shouldn't he be allowed to use his talents to benefit the community? What, is he going to hack the pentagon while streamlining the city hall databases? Or would this all make way too much sense to be in an american court?
Shift happens. Fire it up.
Alex is one fuckin' awesome web designer, but I know at least one of his tricks: How to get those awesome flaming gifs. Check it out at http://www.flamingtext.com/ !
Just ask Peter Parker.
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Your guilt or innocence in matters like this isn't a function of the intent. Intent is relevant when you're sentenced. The appropriate thing to have happen is to be found guilty, and then be given a suspended sentence. After all, he did break the law.
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this should be addressed
Something about many-eyed goats & whatnot?
She sat at the window watching the evening invade the avenue.
``The spiders unfortunately are territorial carnivores. They eat each other, and this has caused them to resist all forms of domestication,'' Turner said.
I can see it now, "Heel boy, now sit, stand. Now spin some silk into a shirt for me!"
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Oh bother.
i can't wait to see the bullet proof spider silk bra in the local Contrampo or Wet Seal.
I think the prosecution of McOwen went overboard. However, if you don't own machines, you shouldn't run software on them without permission. Increasing system load means the system spends less time in power saving modes. It does consume bandwith. Also, and I don't know if this was the case here, it can be damned annoying when not set up properly. When I was working to help administer the computers at a Math department at my college, the sysadmin for general computing stayed logged in and run Seti@home through scripts. Problem was, he didn't do a very good job, and sometimes two or more copies would run at once. They also seemed to take a perceptible amount of time to get off the CPU.
They've found a use for goat milk. ugh!
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By the way, if this can't get discussed in slashback where can it be?
Bertha shouldn't be-e-e-e! Bertha shouldn't be-e-e-e!
Normally, it's a lot of fun to mock people like Alex Chiu. Then I realized that he is probably making tons of money selling his "rings" to clueless surfers. *Sigh*.
By the way, he will be coming out with your very own "One Ring" (Immortality Ring Ver 2.0) soon.
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I want climbing ropes made out of spider silk! I think the smallest-diameter climbing rope is currently 9.5mm. Spider silk would be much lighter even at the same diameter; you could probably trust your life to a 3mm diameter (just guessing) spider silk rope, at dramatically lighter weight than is currently possible.
OTOH, can you imagine how freaky it would be to suspend your body weight from a rope so thin that you might not even be able to see the end of it?
"superiching.com" -- sounds like the site you'd :)
go to when you can't get rid of that damn jock
itch.
Tower Toppler was an Atari game from way back in the day. Dunno if the gameplay in the one mentioned is the same as the sourceforge one, but it wouldn't surprise me. I begged my parents for this game for years, forgetting about shitty pac-man or the Indiana Jones game that had no point at all.
Job? I don't have time to get a job! Who will sit around and bitch about being broke and unemployed then?
Imagine what would happen if a goat fed her offsprings. The silk could end up passing through through them, creating the first ever animal made leash! Since that would count as tool usage, would that mean that we'd have species competition? :)
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Why don't you include some more kooks and kook science for us. I'm sure Ludwig Plutonium is eager for an interview.
I don't care if the latest breaking news is "Scientist clone new super species of hybrid shark/goat" or "Apple releases latest PC: the iGoat", know this, and know it well:
An article on slashdot with "GOAT" in the headline is inviting trouble
:)
Means that, at 100km high, perhaps one of those bigger volcanos it was going to look at took offense?
McOwen used resources without permission. Ideally that gets you a talking-to from a supervisor, at worst it gets you fired.
Taking legal action against an employee for it is way overboard, and even 80 hour community service and $2100 is too much, considering he was fired from a subsequent job, and probably has had his life turned upside down for a few months (I believe he and his wife had a newborn at the time). The reason we should have a fair legal system is so you don't have to go through this kind of thing. What on earth was the attorney general thinking? Where they trying to meet some quota or something? Testing out a new law?
Anyway, glad to see things turned out all right, and he didn't have to go to court, where he probably wouldn't have had enough money to win the case.
I wonder if they have been taking McOwen to court if has run something that could actually save lives on the department's spare time.
I think they just decided to use public opinion against "cracking" and made McOwen a criminal ("Look, he's trying to break codes on company time. He must be a criminal"). Sorry, not criminal, what's the buzzword again? Ah, terrorist...
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You mean, as opposed to all the wooden houses that we currently live in, all produced from 100% inorganic trees?
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
Well, Spider Silk may be 5 times stronger than steel by weight, but how much volume would it take up? It seems to me that one steel beam's weight of spider silk would be very large. And wouldn't the strength be distributed over that volume? So, I would think a projectile would have an easier time penetrating a few feet of spider silk than a few inches of steel. Thus, the pure bulk of this stuff becomes impractical for an kind of armory (which is why they most likely compared it to steal). It may, however, still make make a durable fabric.
From what I picked up, I-Ching is more a method of telling the future than conversing with the supernatural. Then again, I think the idea is that seeing the future and talking to God are kinda the same thing.
As you may be aware, Alex's main claim to fame is that he is the purveyor of the eternal life rings. These cheat death by stopping or even reversing aging. However, they can't protect from accidents, some diseases, being shot (how I'm glad I'm not American...) That's where I-Ching comes in. If you can see the future, you can avoid being shot or whatever. So you need both the rings and I-Ching to really be immortal. They complement each other nicely.
I-Ching is performed by throwing coins or something. (I wasn't really clear on this.) The results, as well as the time/date/year (on Beijing time) and maybe some other variables, go through a complex analysis. Future events, as well as vagely the time and place they will occur, come out. Those who are better at I-Ching will be able to figure out more. Oh yeah, and when I say complex, I mean it. It looks like learning Java was easier than learning I-Ching. There's 5 elements and hexagrams and bonding and lines and more fun than I can handle.
The most interesting part is how logical it is. It might not be backed up by properly controlled scientific evidence, but the method itself really makes sense if you let it make sense. It's just like getting answers from a complex physics equation.
So here's the moral of the story, children: Just because it makes sense to you, doesn't make it correct. People who can use this lesson include:
Politicians (Tax cuts create jobs! The economists say so, I understand it, it must be true!)
Almost anyone who argues about anything (Yes, that includes you. And me.)
Alex Chiu, the subject of the day. This can actually be used to understand his website. He wrote something down. It made sense to him, so now he doesn't understand that it might not be true.
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The opinons expressed are those of the voices in the author's head and are not necessarily those of the author.
What makes goat milk so special for spider silk production? I would have thought of two other scenarios first:
-- Genetically alter silkworms to produce the spider silk.
-- Genetically alter cows to produce the silk laden milk, since they would produce much higher yields than goats.
The article is a little short on details, and it makes it appear like after the spider domestication failed, they went straight to goats. Anybody know why the above two examples are inferior to genetically altered goats?
If spider silk resists stretching more than kevlar, I don't see it being much fun to land a lead fall on onna those suckers.
Still, might make great sheaf material. No idea how this would affect diameter though...
The game download page is not ready yet, but you can find many of these games on the authors' home pages. I highly recommend downloading them -- there were some really good submissions. And by all means don't just download the top three. Almost all of the entries are worth a look.
Although some were disappointed that their games didn't win, everyone has been very polite and understanding. That says a lot about the open source/free software development community. It really was a pleasure to deal with everyone involved in the contest.
-John (one of four SDL game contest judges)
"I have written an online book at http://superiching.com Teaching people how to communicate with God using I-Ching. "
Great, now God's going to get slashdotted.
It is being discussed in the journal entry comments at http://slashdot.org/~negativekarmanow%20tm/journal /
In case anyone missed this story, there is a global unique identifier for every user of Windows Media Player (just about everyone who uses Windows). This can be used to track you with a simple javascript... not a good thing for privacy. In response, I made a little utility to modify that identifier. It changes it to a nice, little message for the guys in Redmond. If a lot of people use it, then it's not exactly unique any more. Cheers!
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how to use Linux! Or Windows for that matter.
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The last few months I have been doing some research into the trolling phenomenon on slashdot.org. In order to do this as thoroughly as possible, I have written both normal and troll posts, 1st posts, etc., both logged in and anonymously, and I have found these rather shocking results:
Feel free to use this information to your advantage. I thank you for your time.
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I can see it now. There's going to be some horrible accident, and the genetic alterations will get out of control, and then we'll have eight-limbed goats clambering all over our metropolisesisesesises. Massive got-webs woven from one building to another! Enormous throbbing goat egg-sacks, from whence come countless tiny goat-spiders which will invade everything and everywhere!
There will be all kinds, just like with spiders! We'll have daedly black-widow goats, which kill with a single bite! Wolf-goats (there's an irony!) that stalk about on their massive hairy legs! Jumping goats! Goats that, you know, dig those little holes with the fake top thingies and jumpout at their prey... maybe they'll use sewers.
The web-spinning goats will feast on large birds - the raptor population will be decimated. Mexico and Canada would dig massive moats to keep them in the States, and Britain will patrol our waters and airspace to preserve the quarantine, but the goats will weave parachute thingies and fly across the waters on the winds.
The goatspiders will soon cover the entire planet. They will adapt to every environment, forcing humanity into underground fortresses. The goatspiders will improve upon our technology and colonize the solar system, being contacted by the Culture, who don't even notice humanity. Soon our kind will be nothing more than few highly isolated communities deep beneath the planet's surface. At that point, it's only a matter of time before humanity's flame is exitnguished entirely.
But we'll have lots of really comfortable lingerie!
Karma: T-rexcellent.
Shame, Taco! Why'dja slap all the responses to First Slashdot Troll Post Investigation!?
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The last few months I have been doing some research into the trolling phenomenon on slashdot.org. In order to do this as thoroughly as possible, I have written both normal and troll posts, 1st posts, etc., both logged in and anonymously, and I have found these rather shocking results:More moderator points are being used to mod posts down than up. Furthermore, when modding a post up, every moderator seems to follow previous moderators in their choices, even when it's not a particularly interesting or clever post [slashdot.org]. There are a LOT more +5 posts than +3 or +4.Logged in people are modded down faster than anonymous cowards. Presumably these Nazi Moderators think it's more important to burn a user's existing karma, to silence that individual for the future, than to use the moderation system for what it's meant for : identifying "good" and "bad" posts (Notice how nearly all oppressive governments in the past and present do the same thing : marking individuals as bad and untrustworthy because they have conflicting opinions, instead of engaging in a public discussion about these opinions)Once you have a karma of -4 or -5, your posts have a score of -1 by default. When this is the case, no-one bothers to mod you down anymore. This means a logged in user can keep on trolling as much as he (or she) likes, without risking a ban to post on slashdot. When trolling as an anonymous user, every post starts at score 0, and you will be modded down to -1 ON EVERY POST. When you are modded down a certain number of times in 24 hour, you cannot post anymore from your current IP for a day or so. So, for successful trolling, ALWAYS log in.A lot of the modded down posts are actually quite clever [slashdot.org], funny [slashdot.org], etc., and they are only modded down because they are offtopic. Now, on a news site like slashdot, where the number of different topics of discussion can be counted on 1 hand, I must say I quite like the distraction these posts offer. But no, when the topic is yet another minor version change of the Linux kernel [slashdot.org], they only expect ooohs and aaahs about this great feat of engineering. Look at the moderation done in this thread [slashdot.org] to see what I mean.Digging deep into the history of slashdot, I found this poll [slashdot.org], which clearly indicates the vast majority does NOT want the moderation we have here today. 'nuff said.
Feel free to use this information to your advantage. I thank you for your time.
*sigh* since I can't post normally anymore : my journal [slashdot.org]
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That should read "perhaps referring to", of course.
the phrase:
`That's where the goats come in'
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Why not submit a patch for Linux?
Because in my current position I am not allowed to even LOOK at GPL'd source code.
Socialist... moron, we OWN you.
If voting were effective, it would be illegal by now.
Actually, I'd suggest not building houses out of spider silk as stated in the article, for the primary reason that spider silk is water soluble.
background on all this can be found
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What you don't know is that XP is just covering up Microsofts attempt to distribute the worlds first "micronet" that is processing hundreds of trillions of flops a day, everyday.
What is happening, and you the public don't know is XP is really a work of art and uses less processing power the windows 3.11! All that drive spinnig, Proccessor time, and bandwidth is MicroNet juicing your systems unused processor time. Playing it off as XP's poor coding is better than admitting they are jacking your cycles.
What else are you really going to do with p4 2ghz machines besides secretly back the worlds largest distributive net project. Your just part of Big Bills world wide web farm baby.
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Nope, there are lots of people are mentally ill and even more who want to rip people off with claims for a product that cannot possibly be true.
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Damn, that was disturbing -- and funny!
"where he probably wouldn't have had enough money to win the case"
It takes a whole new dimension when first you read : "The reason we should have a fair legal system "
If your actual legal system is in the view of : I have money, the best lawer possible, so now move and abandon the case, well yes, you're in trouble...
Oh yes, Moderator, Flamebait is -1. Honesty would put me in "Insightful", or Offtopoc. Now make you choice, and remember : I have more money, and the best lawyer...
Ooops, got carried away 8)
It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
What gives you the idea that spider silk is non-stretching? Au contraire, spider silk is very stretchy. University of Wyoming researchers found the gene for capture silk which, while also very sticky, can stretch up to 3 times its original length. That's a bit too far, and it would be REALLY tough to handle (how would you let go?).
Dragline silk, though (which is what I imagine we'd want for climbing) is what Nexia is producing. It's only 1/5th as stretchy as capture silk (see first link, above), which means it'll stretch to 1.4 times its original length -- plenty of "shock absorption" to keep you from getting cut in two.
And although Nexia doesn't say anything about abrasion resistance, they do say they're hoping to create fibers with specific properties for specific applications. I do agree that the fibers may need to be sheathed in something else (maybe even dragline silk would be too sticky -- who knows?), but I still think it'd be a vast improvement over what we carry today.
Hmmm. Wonder how many goats it takes to build a house...
You're supposed to crash BEFORE you go into safe mode.
Or at least that's what Win98 has always told me
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