Talking strictly about teaching developers... what's important is learning design, process, algorithms, style, and design (yeah, I said design twice on purpose). Languages change a ton as well as development environments (look at java, I just had to learn IBM's "Visual Age" for my newest contract). The environment can be learned quickly, and all college students coming into the workforce have some kinda learning curve.
Maximum exposure might be a little too much for some, probably interfering with the appropriate learning process (like switching environments for one class)....
The only way you'll see all the schools takeup Linux all at once is a revolution, which isn't going to happen. It has to start at one school, and progress slowly.
Linux will eventually dominate... if you'll be patient enough to wait for it.
Most colleges use a UNIX environment (especially for CS and engineering). Putting a UNIX environment in high/elementary schools is the next step. And you know how school boards love to save money.
Solution? Linux.
It isn't very surprising to me, other than the need to have a good *NIX network administrator in your local school (seems odd, doesn't it?).
Is there something that you would actually pay an extra $30 to add to your small battery-operated device, something that you wouldn't just use a cable or infrared for?
Well, in Physics Class, if you wanted to d/l a game for your HP calculator that your classmate is playing, but don't want the prof to know, IR is the way to go. If he saw you connecting via a wire, you were toast....
But seriously, when you want to be non-suspicious looking... maybe in spy tech or something??
This is the second article in a row that they had the article up a few hours ago in another area besides the frontpage (This was in developers, the constants not constant in the science as "evolution of electromagnetism").
I think they're having a kegger in the/. office today....
I'm glad to see a decision for freedome can still happen in this country
Is this a hypocritical statement Taco?
Lets look at your site. If I post an article anonymously, it gets moderated down 5 times, I get a temporary ban. Now if I was "truely" anonymous, you couldn't figure out who to ban, right? You store IP addresses, so aren't you breaking your own anonymous posting rules? Not much freedom there, eh hypocrit?
A reason why I bring this up, is because of a contract I had a few months ago at a large company. Some dufus kept writing anonymous trolls, and got the IP tempbanned. Since the company had a huge firewall system, the only IP/. got was the firewall, so now I can't post anything. Seems like a bit of a violation of this liberty you talk about.
Now I know that this is taco's server, and isn't true freedom, but for an advocate of freedom, you kinda expect some "practicing what you preach", right?
try A.L.I.C.E. (that's http://www.alicebot.org/ for the goatsecx paranoid). Its one of the better bots that has won awards and stuff. Sure it isn't perfect, but its a neat toy to play with.
"The Matrix" and "AI:Artificial Intelligence" immediately come to mind. Looks like the media might still have interest.... Sure it isn't the news that's reporting it, but there hasn't been anything to report lately.
Remember the DirectTV anti-hack on the hackers? Seems like this is the same idea. Anti-virus the virus...
Hey, if it worked for DirectTV, it should work here...
Actually, this may start a "best of the best" competition with virus writers. They'll come back with a virus to counteract the anti-virus, and on and on.... might be interesting...
I have an Athlon 800 (had it for quite a while now), play all the newest high-end games, and I have to tell you, for an industry that's about to pump out 2GHz processors, I haven't found even the slightest need to upgrade.
If I was to buy a new machine now, I wouldn't touch anything above 1GHz... I'd go, preferably, for slower with multiprocessors....
Even games, which are always bleeding edge (although that ruins the gameplay, but I digress) aren't running with the top processors. I say buy what you can afford - 1 level.
I'm a newbie to SF books, and I picked up a Heinlein (Starship Troopers) which I read from time to time, but just yesterday got a book of short stories and started reading "Among Thieves", which completely captivated me. Now I look to pick up more books to find out he just died today!
Its really sad realize that there is only a finite number of books from an author. I guess it paves the way for new authors to try to be as successful as their predecesors.
He will be sadly missed, even though I hardly knew him...
-- Fnord is that feeling you get when you reach for a Snickers and come back with a Slurpee.
heart attacks are a mayor killer. Meanwhile President Bush is just starting to consider whether to permit federal funding of research involving human embryonic stem cells.
Of course Bush is starting to consider it. It is a *mayor* killer now, it could evolve to a presidential killer soon.
Maybe I'm entirely outta wack, but isn't human waste... umm... waste? The body is rejecting the stuff it can't use?
I'm sure that a minor amount maybe good, but nothing significant. I don't see anyone getting any significant amount of nutrients from crap! Especially urine, which is biological waste.
was what they consider "difficult" something you'd also consider difficult?
But in the same vein, what they see as difficult, and what you see as difficult may not be the same thing. He may find what you find difficult fairly simple and vice versa. How they handled the situation, though, is very important.
For example, I might find searching graph objects difficult, and you might find it simple (and even know algorithms in your head), but you may find J2EE difficult, and he/she may be certified in it.
(cheesy examples, I know, but its morning here).
...Is for references on the employees he/she has helped.
Lets face it, there are two types of sysadmins:
1.) The type that sits in a locked server room never to be bothered (see BOFH).
2.) The type that wants to help you in a kind manner.
Sure, it is more important to have a knowledgable sysadmin that can knows a ton, and knows some clever little techniques to make everyone's life easier, but its also important to have one that is good with employees and treats everyone well.
One of my former employers had a sysadmin that everyone was afraid to go to because of the tone he'd use. He always shouted and was just generally mean to everyone. He was fired, and the man that replaced him knew just as much, but was always helping people with a smile and would stick with you until the problem was solved. It was a huge difference. People loved the new guy.
I'm digressing, but the point is, a sysadmin job usually requires that you help fellow employees, and that is something to check for in an interview.
Is this how you want people to go to OpenSource?
They get threatened and pickup free software out of fear, or do you want them to do it on their own accord without proprietary bullying?
I guess anyway is a good way in most respects. At least more people will try it....
-- Fnord is that feeling you get when you reach for a Snickers and come back with a Slurpee.
Somehow it's inspiring to see just how long we've been killing each other. This story is great in so many ways.
How is murder in any sense of the term great in so many ways?
Look, man was civilized enough to kill one another!
I think its sad in so many ways that we can't stop killing one another...
-- Fnord is that feeling you get when you reach for a Snickers and come back with a Slurpee.
Haven't we been doing this the past two weeks? Its getting as bad as the napster articles. Can we move on please? Its a tragedy, but I'm finished reading about it over and over.
If you look at the logic of the article, it talks about the hours and money lost by the viri (even deleting the email costs money). Now if you think that time and money are reasons to kill, then/. should be removed from the 'net. Think about it. The millions of nerds that spend hours reading it at work. That's some serious time and money. Economic tragedy? Nahh....
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Talking strictly about teaching developers... what's important is learning design, process, algorithms, style, and design (yeah, I said design twice on purpose). Languages change a ton as well as development environments (look at java, I just had to learn IBM's "Visual Age" for my newest contract). The environment can be learned quickly, and all college students coming into the workforce have some kinda learning curve.
Maximum exposure might be a little too much for some, probably interfering with the appropriate learning process (like switching environments for one class)....
The only way you'll see all the schools takeup Linux all at once is a revolution, which isn't going to happen. It has to start at one school, and progress slowly.
Linux will eventually dominate... if you'll be patient enough to wait for it.
Most colleges use a UNIX environment (especially for CS and engineering). Putting a UNIX environment in high/elementary schools is the next step. And you know how school boards love to save money.
Solution? Linux.
It isn't very surprising to me, other than the need to have a good *NIX network administrator in your local school (seems odd, doesn't it?).
Is there something that you would actually pay an extra $30 to add to your small battery-operated device, something that you wouldn't just use a cable or infrared for?
Well, in Physics Class, if you wanted to d/l a game for your HP calculator that your classmate is playing, but don't want the prof to know, IR is the way to go. If he saw you connecting via a wire, you were toast....
But seriously, when you want to be non-suspicious looking... maybe in spy tech or something??
This is the second article in a row that they had the article up a few hours ago in another area besides the frontpage (This was in developers, the constants not constant in the science as "evolution of electromagnetism").
/. office today....
I think they're having a kegger in the
Could the fact that constants have changed relate to the fact that Electromagnitism has evolved??
Considering they were both posted the same day, I'm surprised I was the first to relate them (I ain't too smart like dem der LEEENucks users).
2 OS' enter, 1 OS leaves...
Edwards reportedly got about $100; Reynolds will receive something under six figures
James Earl Jones got $1mil (I think?) just to say "CNN" for the CNN network comercials....
Man I wish I had a voice speaking job....
I'm glad to see a decision for freedome can still happen in this country
/. got was the firewall, so now I can't post anything. Seems like a bit of a violation of this liberty you talk about.
Is this a hypocritical statement Taco?
Lets look at your site. If I post an article anonymously, it gets moderated down 5 times, I get a temporary ban. Now if I was "truely" anonymous, you couldn't figure out who to ban, right? You store IP addresses, so aren't you breaking your own anonymous posting rules? Not much freedom there, eh hypocrit?
A reason why I bring this up, is because of a contract I had a few months ago at a large company. Some dufus kept writing anonymous trolls, and got the IP tempbanned. Since the company had a huge firewall system, the only IP
Now I know that this is taco's server, and isn't true freedom, but for an advocate of freedom, you kinda expect some "practicing what you preach", right?
try A.L.I.C.E. (that's http://www.alicebot.org/ for the goatsecx paranoid). Its one of the better bots that has won awards and stuff. Sure it isn't perfect, but its a neat toy to play with.
"The Matrix" and "AI:Artificial Intelligence" immediately come to mind. Looks like the media might still have interest.... Sure it isn't the news that's reporting it, but there hasn't been anything to report lately.
Remember the DirectTV anti-hack on the hackers? Seems like this is the same idea. Anti-virus the virus...
Hey, if it worked for DirectTV, it should work here...
Actually, this may start a "best of the best" competition with virus writers. They'll come back with a virus to counteract the anti-virus, and on and on.... might be interesting...
I have an Athlon 800 (had it for quite a while now), play all the newest high-end games, and I have to tell you, for an industry that's about to pump out 2GHz processors, I haven't found even the slightest need to upgrade.
If I was to buy a new machine now, I wouldn't touch anything above 1GHz... I'd go, preferably, for slower with multiprocessors....
Even games, which are always bleeding edge (although that ruins the gameplay, but I digress) aren't running with the top processors. I say buy what you can afford - 1 level.
I'm a newbie to SF books, and I picked up a Heinlein (Starship Troopers) which I read from time to time, but just yesterday got a book of short stories and started reading "Among Thieves", which completely captivated me. Now I look to pick up more books to find out he just died today!
Its really sad realize that there is only a finite number of books from an author. I guess it paves the way for new authors to try to be as successful as their predecesors.
He will be sadly missed, even though I hardly knew him...
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Fnord is that feeling you get when you reach for a Snickers and come back with a Slurpee.
heart attacks are a mayor killer. Meanwhile President Bush is just starting to consider whether to permit federal funding of research involving human embryonic stem cells.
Of course Bush is starting to consider it. It is a *mayor* killer now, it could evolve to a presidential killer soon.
Maybe I'm entirely outta wack, but isn't human waste... umm... waste? The body is rejecting the stuff it can't use?
I'm sure that a minor amount maybe good, but nothing significant. I don't see anyone getting any significant amount of nutrients from crap! Especially urine, which is biological waste.
was what they consider "difficult" something you'd also consider difficult?
But in the same vein, what they see as difficult, and what you see as difficult may not be the same thing. He may find what you find difficult fairly simple and vice versa. How they handled the situation, though, is very important.
For example, I might find searching graph objects difficult, and you might find it simple (and even know algorithms in your head), but you may find J2EE difficult, and he/she may be certified in it.
(cheesy examples, I know, but its morning here).
...Is for references on the employees he/she has helped.
Lets face it, there are two types of sysadmins:
1.) The type that sits in a locked server room never to be bothered (see BOFH).
2.) The type that wants to help you in a kind manner.
Sure, it is more important to have a knowledgable sysadmin that can knows a ton, and knows some clever little techniques to make everyone's life easier, but its also important to have one that is good with employees and treats everyone well.
One of my former employers had a sysadmin that everyone was afraid to go to because of the tone he'd use. He always shouted and was just generally mean to everyone. He was fired, and the man that replaced him knew just as much, but was always helping people with a smile and would stick with you until the problem was solved. It was a huge difference. People loved the new guy.
I'm digressing, but the point is, a sysadmin job usually requires that you help fellow employees, and that is something to check for in an interview.
Is this how you want people to go to OpenSource?
They get threatened and pickup free software out of fear, or do you want them to do it on their own accord without proprietary bullying?
I guess anyway is a good way in most respects. At least more people will try it....
--
Fnord is that feeling you get when you reach for a Snickers and come back with a Slurpee.
Somehow it's inspiring to see just how long we've been killing each other. This story is great in so many ways.
How is murder in any sense of the term great in so many ways?
Look, man was civilized enough to kill one another!
I think its sad in so many ways that we can't stop killing one another...
--
Fnord is that feeling you get when you reach for a Snickers and come back with a Slurpee.
OSDN Bake sale
BusinessMan: Yes, I'd like a C++ Carmel Cake, please
Programmer: Would you like a programming bond with that???
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Let's go over the Sklyarov situation.
Haven't we been doing this the past two weeks? Its getting as bad as the napster articles. Can we move on please? Its a tragedy, but I'm finished reading about it over and over.
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Hey!
I just got a DOS prompt on my fridge!
Not that its useful, but its something to do!
Next, I'm gonna give it an IP!!
Moderators, this is very metaphoric cynism, and it is on topic. If you don't understand, just skip it.
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If you look at the logic of the article, it talks about the hours and money lost by the viri (even deleting the email costs money). Now if you think that time and money are reasons to kill, then /. should be removed from the 'net. Think about it. The millions of nerds that spend hours reading it at work. That's some serious time and money. Economic tragedy? Nahh....
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Mind if I send you one directly? My email is in my header if you don't wish to publish yours. Thanks!!
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