I, too, was surprised not to hear him using this method, though I would stick to multiples of tens so as not to confuse her. How much for 1kB, 10kB, 100kB and then 10000kB. By continually forcing this method, you should be able to get her to say that 10000kB should cost 20 cents.... repeatedly.
Keep an open mind for other peoples believes and learn what makes them tick.
So far as I can tell, what makes them tick is some sort of brainwash/indoctrination, lack of intelligence/logic, pseudo-mental illness and/or fear of losing their comforting/cozy faith.
So tell me, which of these people is qualified to vote? Disabling the uninformed does nothing more than create an elitist governing board who will no doubt become corrupt in no time at all. While I understand your point, and I cringe when I hear someone say they voted for [Insert Politician/Party/Prop. I hate] too, I don't think this is the way to solve it. I'd like to see some way that would work, it's simply unworkable.
You know, the country started with and ran well for quite a long period of time with only white male land owners being able to vote. Unworkable, I think not.
Sadly, the stupid people of this country deserve a vote too.
The sad fact that far too many people have little or no interest in that, and are woefully uninformed or, arguably, misinformed is irrelevant. Just because a voter believes John Kerry should win because he's taller, that shouldn't be more important than your vote. Nor should your vote be more important just because you took the time to learn about the issues.
I disagree. I believe it is quite relevant. I believe that the most educated, qualified, intelligent and scrupulous canididate should win out over the tallest. I believe that an informed voting base would be a proper step in realizing that goal. Disabling the uninformed would also further that goal.
Which brings up problem number two: Most Americans don't know the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America, and are probably not qualified to vote. The Declaration of Independence defines the principles upon which this country was founded and the Constitution defines the process by which we govern ourselves. It is embarrassing that I meet so many foreigners who know all about the Constitution and the Declaration, but I seldom find an American college student who can even tell me what's in the Bill of Rights.
You have to pass a test to become a licensed driver, why not a test to become a licensed voter?
Double ditto. I was going to post something similar.
I think some sort of basic test to go along with the voting process (anything for starters, maybe something as simple as having hex numbers next to candidate names, which you then convert to decimal and fill in with bubbles) and raising the voting age back up (perhaps some exemption for military members?) would go a long way towards getting more intelligent folks in office.
And yes, it irks me that people are so moronic as to get offended and pissy if you should even attempt to talk politics (regardless of position).
If the Republicans really *are* for a stronger military, then it would be hard to imagine given the cutbacks in VA funding for veterans in the face of tens of thousands of returning vets with significant wounds and lost limbs from the current Middle East conflict. If the Republicans really *are* for a stronger military, then it would be hard to explain given the increasing movement towards giving military jobs out to private contractors (and paying the contractors more). If the Republicans really *are* for a stronger military, then it would be hard to convince the Pentagon who has much less control and power over it's own affairs after Donald Rumsfeld has gone through and consolidated control away from the current flags. If the Republicans really *are* for a stronger military, then it would be almost impossible to justify in the face of decreasing educational programs within the military.
The grandparent claimed "Reps are still about strong military". He made no claim they care about military members, so that could simply mean more funding for the active force (w/less benefits) and/or equipment.
Yet, I wanna see someone claim that by dissecting oranges he can help us fight heart diseases.
If you eat 'em, why not;)
On a related not, I'm wondering why we don't map similar yet speciated animals. Like, take a parrot species that generally lives 10 years and a parrot species that lives 30 years and try to figure out the difference leading to the life expectancy gap. Then map some monkeys and go from there. Or would that be about as silly an endeavor as the mouse/human one?
"People not served by the system will attack the system and defending/repairing the system is potentially much more expensive I do prefer financing vacations to massive crime rates and exploding prison populations, thank you very much."
That's a problem with the justice system not matching the economic system. If we had a lot more executions the crime rate would drop, as would prison populations.
I've actually had a number of discussions about moving to New Zealand. My primary concern is how easily I would be able to live the sort of lifestyle that I currently plan to upon retirement, mainly in regards to the cost of land/real estate and associated property taxes.
"Perhaps, then, the employee is choosing to disqualify themselves by showing sufficient lack of common sense that they voluntarily live somewhere without a health care system?"
Yeah. No health care system of any kind here in the US, except the occasional witch doctor.
Just because health care here is maybe a little more socially darwinistic, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I might change my mind later about where I'm better off (I'm only 30), but for now, I'll take less socialized medicine and relatively low taxes, since I've spent under $1000 on health care thus far in my entire lifetime (including medicines) and saved plenty through taxes, I'd imagine.
Just because the US doesn't "Robin Hood" its citizens as much, doesn't mean it's all that bad a place to live.
And just in case you're interested (Wage tax data from 2005, sales taxes from 2001): Country__Avg Wage Tax__Avg Sales Tax UK___________29.9%________18.1% Denmark______39.3%________19.6% Germany______46.7%________17.9% France_______41.4%________17.5% US___________26.7%_________7.6%
You say it's not magic, but it is magic. Ordinary devices like electronics have smoke in them. If you let the smoke out of a CPU, for example, it no longer works. In all of my experiments with magnets I have not been able to detect smoke of any kind! NO SMOKE! It's magic.
In addition to smoke, it's my understanding that electronics, too, operate on magic, hence the acronym FM.
Pretty much anyone can enlist into a technical field and they're all put through the same relatively short, simple training.
That's certainly a problem, the "anyone can make it" part. Anyone can be, for instance, a 3C0. If you just managed enough on your ASVAB and you're practically a luddite, you too can be a 3C0. Is it so far-fetched from the real world, though, where computer cavemen try to get into the field chasing dollar signs (greed over happenstance)?
I would like to think that the training is better outside the military. In particular, the 3C0 tech school is especially poor. Half the instructors are incompetent, and aside from the unix class, the curriculum was quite watered down. It was a complete joke.
On the other hand, just because someone has been in the military doesn't necessarily mean they are worthless. The military does have some rather bright minds working for it. The trouble is just finding them sometimes.
Yeah... you know, either I got lucky, or you just needed to take care of your NES. Mine worked fine for several years (from shortly after it's release up until 1994 when I left home) and likely still works fine. I did have some second-hand cartridges that required voodoo tricks to get working (blowing on the contacts, not putting the cartridge in all the way back, etc), but I always figured the rampant problems were due to neglect, since I noticed that certain kids I knew had cartridges that were all screwy, jacked up consoles and nearly dead gamepads (from throwing them around the room). Same thing goes for Atari joysticks... I must have been the only kid not trying to break the thing in half.
Back in the day, consoles were definitely not toys for kids who couldn't take care of their things.
Although, I did have a cleaner cartridge for my NES and I actually used it. That and not throwing gamepads around probably helped a lot.
If you don't like people driving bigger vehicles than you, get a bigger vehicle yourself.
Perfect logic, if only the people hating on you were doing so simply because they're jealous of the volumetric size of your vehicle.
Reminds me of smokers who get defensive about people that find their habit disgusting and take measure to do something about it. As if it's not that the people don't dislike smoke blown in their face. Oh, no. They do it because they enjoy taking away the smoker's liberty or because they want to personally attack people who are different than them. Right.
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you techno-hedonist nerds all deserve to die in an anthrax attack
:)
That'd be great! With me being vaccinated against anthrax, maybe then I could get a sweet job
That's one easy step anyway...
I, too, was surprised not to hear him using this method, though I would stick to multiples of tens so as not to confuse her. How much for 1kB, 10kB, 100kB and then 10000kB. By continually forcing this method, you should be able to get her to say that 10000kB should cost 20 cents.... repeatedly.
Keep an open mind for other peoples believes and learn what makes them tick.
So far as I can tell, what makes them tick is some sort of brainwash/indoctrination, lack of intelligence/logic, pseudo-mental illness and/or fear of losing their comforting/cozy faith.
So tell me, which of these people is qualified to vote? Disabling the uninformed does nothing more than create an elitist governing board who will no doubt become corrupt in no time at all. While I understand your point, and I cringe when I hear someone say they voted for [Insert Politician/Party/Prop. I hate] too, I don't think this is the way to solve it. I'd like to see some way that would work, it's simply unworkable.
You know, the country started with and ran well for quite a long period of time with only white male land owners being able to vote. Unworkable, I think not.
Sadly, the stupid people of this country deserve a vote too.
Again, I simply disagree.
The sad fact that far too many people have little or no interest in that, and are woefully uninformed or, arguably, misinformed is irrelevant. Just because a voter believes John Kerry should win because he's taller, that shouldn't be more important than your vote. Nor should your vote be more important just because you took the time to learn about the issues.
I disagree. I believe it is quite relevant. I believe that the most educated, qualified, intelligent and scrupulous canididate should win out over the tallest. I believe that an informed voting base would be a proper step in realizing that goal. Disabling the uninformed would also further that goal.
And maybe we should have a test before people are permitted to have kids...
You may be joking, but I'd be all for it.
Which brings up problem number two: Most Americans don't know the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States of America, and are probably not qualified to vote. The Declaration of Independence defines the principles upon which this country was founded and the Constitution defines the process by which we govern ourselves. It is embarrassing that I meet so many foreigners who know all about the Constitution and the Declaration, but I seldom find an American college student who can even tell me what's in the Bill of Rights.
You have to pass a test to become a licensed driver, why not a test to become a licensed voter?
Double ditto. I was going to post something similar.
I think some sort of basic test to go along with the voting process (anything for starters, maybe something as simple as having hex numbers next to candidate names, which you then convert to decimal and fill in with bubbles) and raising the voting age back up (perhaps some exemption for military members?) would go a long way towards getting more intelligent folks in office.
And yes, it irks me that people are so moronic as to get offended and pissy if you should even attempt to talk politics (regardless of position).
How can being highly intelligent correlate to believing a conclusion for which there is almost no evidence and absolutely no strong evidence?
Because your assumption is flawed. There is ample evidence.
If the Republicans really *are* for a stronger military, then it would be hard to imagine given the cutbacks in VA funding for veterans in the face of tens of thousands of returning vets with significant wounds and lost limbs from the current Middle East conflict. If the Republicans really *are* for a stronger military, then it would be hard to explain given the increasing movement towards giving military jobs out to private contractors (and paying the contractors more). If the Republicans really *are* for a stronger military, then it would be hard to convince the Pentagon who has much less control and power over it's own affairs after Donald Rumsfeld has gone through and consolidated control away from the current flags. If the Republicans really *are* for a stronger military, then it would be almost impossible to justify in the face of decreasing educational programs within the military.
The grandparent claimed "Reps are still about strong military". He made no claim they care about military members, so that could simply mean more funding for the active force (w/less benefits) and/or equipment.
Oh and how memory used to be measured in MEGABYTES (Like, you totally can't even print "Hello World" anymore in under three gigs dude!)
Ah yes, the next MS operating system after Vista.
Yet, I wanna see someone claim that by dissecting oranges he can help us fight heart diseases.
;)
If you eat 'em, why not
On a related not, I'm wondering why we don't map similar yet speciated animals. Like, take a parrot species that generally lives 10 years and a parrot species that lives 30 years and try to figure out the difference leading to the life expectancy gap. Then map some monkeys and go from there. Or would that be about as silly an endeavor as the mouse/human one?
"People not served by the system will attack the system and defending/repairing the system is potentially much more expensive I do prefer financing vacations to massive crime rates and exploding prison populations, thank you very much."
That's a problem with the justice system not matching the economic system. If we had a lot more executions the crime rate would drop, as would prison populations.
I've actually had a number of discussions about moving to New Zealand. My primary concern is how easily I would be able to live the sort of lifestyle that I currently plan to upon retirement, mainly in regards to the cost of land/real estate and associated property taxes.
Well, Avg does mean average. At least you paid a tidbit less than the average frenchman :)
I don't like the way things are going in this country either, though. Where would be a better place to move to?
"Perhaps, then, the employee is choosing to disqualify themselves by showing sufficient lack of common sense that they voluntarily live somewhere without a health care system?"
Yeah. No health care system of any kind here in the US, except the occasional witch doctor.
Just because health care here is maybe a little more socially darwinistic, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I might change my mind later about where I'm better off (I'm only 30), but for now, I'll take less socialized medicine and relatively low taxes, since I've spent under $1000 on health care thus far in my entire lifetime (including medicines) and saved plenty through taxes, I'd imagine.
Just because the US doesn't "Robin Hood" its citizens as much, doesn't mean it's all that bad a place to live.
And just in case you're interested (Wage tax data from 2005, sales taxes from 2001):
Country__Avg Wage Tax__Avg Sales Tax
UK___________29.9%________18.1%
Denmark______39.3%________19.6%
Germany______46.7%________17.9%
France_______41.4%________17.5%
US___________26.7%_________7.6%
That was my first thought, too: Stimpy's Invention.
"I'm so - happy! I must - go - do nice - things! Hee hee he hee hee, ha ha ha hahaaaa!"
You say it's not magic, but it is magic. Ordinary devices like electronics have smoke in them. If you let the smoke out of a CPU, for example, it no longer works. In all of my experiments with magnets I have not been able to detect smoke of any kind! NO SMOKE! It's magic.
In addition to smoke, it's my understanding that electronics, too, operate on magic, hence the acronym FM.
PS. I'm pretty sure "octillion" is not a real number. Please stop making stuff up and use the proper terminology like I do.
You're surely wrong... and lazy. This is the second result on google for octillion.
And it's nothing new. I could've told you that decades ago.
Pretty much anyone can enlist into a technical field and they're all put through the same relatively short, simple training.
That's certainly a problem, the "anyone can make it" part. Anyone can be, for instance, a 3C0. If you just managed enough on your ASVAB and you're practically a luddite, you too can be a 3C0. Is it so far-fetched from the real world, though, where computer cavemen try to get into the field chasing dollar signs (greed over happenstance)?
I would like to think that the training is better outside the military. In particular, the 3C0 tech school is especially poor. Half the instructors are incompetent, and aside from the unix class, the curriculum was quite watered down. It was a complete joke.
On the other hand, just because someone has been in the military doesn't necessarily mean they are worthless. The military does have some rather bright minds working for it. The trouble is just finding them sometimes.
It still had me misled. I thought it was going to be about the Java client of Titan.
Ultima or Wizardry
Bah. You know what else is 20 years old?
Wasteland!
That RPG left all others in the dust.
Yeah... you know, either I got lucky, or you just needed to take care of your NES. Mine worked fine for several years (from shortly after it's release up until 1994 when I left home) and likely still works fine. I did have some second-hand cartridges that required voodoo tricks to get working (blowing on the contacts, not putting the cartridge in all the way back, etc), but I always figured the rampant problems were due to neglect, since I noticed that certain kids I knew had cartridges that were all screwy, jacked up consoles and nearly dead gamepads (from throwing them around the room). Same thing goes for Atari joysticks... I must have been the only kid not trying to break the thing in half.
Back in the day, consoles were definitely not toys for kids who couldn't take care of their things.
Although, I did have a cleaner cartridge for my NES and I actually used it. That and not throwing gamepads around probably helped a lot.
If you don't like people driving bigger vehicles than you, get a bigger vehicle yourself.
Perfect logic, if only the people hating on you were doing so simply because they're jealous of the volumetric size of your vehicle.
Reminds me of smokers who get defensive about people that find their habit disgusting and take measure to do something about it. As if it's not that the people don't dislike smoke blown in their face. Oh, no. They do it because they enjoy taking away the smoker's liberty or because they want to personally attack people who are different than them. Right.