So one screwed up city proves that most cops everywhere are corrupt? That is pretty much the definition of anecdotal evidence.
I personally know at least a half-dozen cops (through various organizations I am involved in) and I can't see a single one of them doing anything like that.
It's amazing that "cops are evil" is about the only FUD that is not only accepted by slashdot, but actively PROMOTED. You people either need to stop getting your information about cops from Fox News or stop peddling meth through your mail slot!
The only reason insurance (house, etc) is a good idea is because the cost of NOT having it if something goes wrong will most likely ruin you. Most people will NEVER get their money back on their house insurance, but if there WERE a fire, I highly doubt even 5% of the population would be able to buy a new one without ending up in the poor house. Laptops rarely fall into the category of "I will be ruined if this breaks".
Ah, so the only person that can really take advantage of it would be the person creating the legitimate one as well. It kind of sounded from the original that the attack could be used to impersonate someone. Thanks for clarifying.
I've read that last paragraph 6 times and still don't understand what you are getting at. The attacker can't control what message you create any more than the password, so what is the difference?
I did a pretty good search and EVERY instance of "anti-lock" failure I could find indicated the same symptoms I described. If the master cylinder has problems, it could cause the conditions you were expecting, bu that is not a problem of the anti-lock. As for the race car thing, could you provide a citation on that? I couldn't find a SINGLE mention of them being unsafe. Every single mention of them not being in race cars is for fairness.
BTW, I am fully aware of how Anti-Lock works, but you description shows otherwise. They haven't used cylinder-bypass anti-locks in a long time, now-a-days the computer (cars have these now by the way) simply overrides the power-braking. And no, I was unable to find a SINGLE article about the anti-lock failing in the "bypass" position...
Really? I've driven cars where the anti-lock was completely busted and other than the little light on the dashboard you would swear it just had regular brakes.
Even if your POWER brakes (which almost all cars since 1970 have) die, you still have brakes, you just have to push REALLY hard.
Now if you were out of brake fluid (or had the master cylinder go), the yes, you would potentially have no brakes. But that really has nothing to do with "anti-lock".
There are actually a couple of exceptions, but they are VERY narrow.
A) Being cut off (fast lane change and simultaneous brake), usually takes some fighting to win that one
B) Baking into someone. had this happen to a family member (person put their car in reverse at a stop sign by accident), it's a bitch to prove without witnesses...
Ok valid points, but windows is no better. First of all, most of those gtk and qt apps have the SAME problem in windows. Second of all, most applications (unless written by Microsoft themselves) look COMPLETELY different from one another. Go look at some screenshots of firewalls, quicken, games, office and firefox and tell me with a straight face that they all look the "same"!
The reason it's noticed in linux (at least by windows users) is because so much IS the same, that the small discrepancies stand out more.
If you are distributing proprietary software, chances are it's for profit. In which case distributing a tarball with the binaries will get you into MOST distros (ubuntu, arch, etc), there are just a small handful (fedora) that you'll have to package manually.
If you know what software you want, then go ahead and install it individually (any ubuntu install can be made identical to a base edubuntu install). The PURPOSE of edubuntu is that you can install it and not have to do all that tweaking yourself. That's the same reason there is also kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu studio, etc.
The reason it's so easy in windows is because everything (framework, libraries, etc) is normally compiled right into the binary itself, this can just as easily be done on linux. The reason it ISN'T is because it's a stupid way to do it, if you have a 10 apps using library X, then you end up with a 10 copies of library X and waste a lot of harddrive space. Just link your libraries properly (any linux tutorial will show how) and let the distro maintainers handle the packaging, that's what they DO and they are probably MUCH better at it than you.
I have run GTK and QT applications in both KDE and Gnome without issue. Hell, I've run them in StumpWM without issue. The ONLY advantage to sticking to one framework is not having to install the extra framework (done automatically BTW) which basically just means you have 100MB less space on what is normally a 500+GB hard drive.
Please stop perpetuating the FUD that gtk and qt are like baking soda and vinagre.
Do we really need to repeat this AGAIN? The *ONLY* reason windows appears to have better driver support is because the manufacturer/retailer spends all the time getting the drivers for you. Tell you what, buy a computer (with some windows version on it, such as windows 7), then wipe the harddrive and install linux plus windows (a *different* version than what came with it, such as Vista or XP). Now see which one takes longer to get FULLY working with drivers.
Every time I have done this, windows took SIGNIFICANTLY longer, linux usually just "worked".
Oh, and the only reason Mac seems to work so well is that there is extremely limited hardware available for it.
That is the dumbest analogy I've read in a long time (the very last part). What is the airplane supposed to represent? A distro? In that case, LinuxAir simply lets you use what-ever damn bolt you want for your own chair and they take off just the same.
Try using software with multiple scroll-boxes, in windows you need to click, then scroll. In linux you just hover and scroll, then move to the next one. You really don't realize how much of a PITA that click is until you've used linux for a while, then had to use a windows box.
Other "small" but SERIOUSLY useful things include
"highlight, then middle click" for copy/paste (no keyboard),
alt+MMB for re-sizing (no grabbing the corner)
alt+LMB for moving a window (my GOD that is useful!)
virtual terminals (WAY better than that "task manager" pos)
ssh: vnc is crap and always will be for remote application use
I could go on, but you get the idea. The big things in linux are amazing, but it's the little things (that have existed for over a DECADE) that really piss you off when you are forced to use a non-linux system for even 5 minutes.
No, I'm pretty sure we could do it a lot sooner than that. It would just be so astronomically expensive that nobody is willing to foot the bill.
All I can say is that if they DO get rid of time zones (I'm personally for it), and leave that am/pm crap in there, heads will ROLL!
So one screwed up city proves that most cops everywhere are corrupt? That is pretty much the definition of anecdotal evidence.
I personally know at least a half-dozen cops (through various organizations I am involved in) and I can't see a single one of them doing anything like that.
It's amazing that "cops are evil" is about the only FUD that is not only accepted by slashdot, but actively PROMOTED. You people either need to stop getting your information about cops from Fox News or stop peddling meth through your mail slot!
The only reason insurance (house, etc) is a good idea is because the cost of NOT having it if something goes wrong will most likely ruin you. Most people will NEVER get their money back on their house insurance, but if there WERE a fire, I highly doubt even 5% of the population would be able to buy a new one without ending up in the poor house. Laptops rarely fall into the category of "I will be ruined if this breaks".
Nah, Canada (no software patents up here) will just have to take over!
Ah, so the only person that can really take advantage of it would be the person creating the legitimate one as well. It kind of sounded from the original that the attack could be used to impersonate someone. Thanks for clarifying.
Well, If I'm reading http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/economics/fuel_monitor/Pages/index.aspx right, jet fuel is about $2.968/gal
Ipad: 11,000 x $499 (source) = $5,489,000
Jet fuel saved/year: 326,000 x $2.968 (source) = $967,568
So, $5489000 % $967568 = 5.672986291 years to pay off.
And that's not even counting training, maintenance, power (they need to be charged you know), replacements (dropped, batteries, lost, etc).
Perhaps the mods should modify the script to auto suspend any account who links to MyCleanPC?
TFTY
I've read that last paragraph 6 times and still don't understand what you are getting at. The attacker can't control what message you create any more than the password, so what is the difference?
I've yet to see a single one, and I live where there are hydrogen buses!
I did a pretty good search and EVERY instance of "anti-lock" failure I could find indicated the same symptoms I described. If the master cylinder has problems, it could cause the conditions you were expecting, bu that is not a problem of the anti-lock. As for the race car thing, could you provide a citation on that? I couldn't find a SINGLE mention of them being unsafe. Every single mention of them not being in race cars is for fairness.
BTW, I am fully aware of how Anti-Lock works, but you description shows otherwise. They haven't used cylinder-bypass anti-locks in a long time, now-a-days the computer (cars have these now by the way) simply overrides the power-braking. And no, I was unable to find a SINGLE article about the anti-lock failing in the "bypass" position...
Really? I've driven cars where the anti-lock was completely busted and other than the little light on the dashboard you would swear it just had regular brakes.
Even if your POWER brakes (which almost all cars since 1970 have) die, you still have brakes, you just have to push REALLY hard.
Now if you were out of brake fluid (or had the master cylinder go), the yes, you would potentially have no brakes. But that really has nothing to do with "anti-lock".
There are actually a couple of exceptions, but they are VERY narrow.
A) Being cut off (fast lane change and simultaneous brake), usually takes some fighting to win that one
B) Baking into someone. had this happen to a family member (person put their car in reverse at a stop sign by accident), it's a bitch to prove without witnesses...
Ok valid points, but windows is no better. First of all, most of those gtk and qt apps have the SAME problem in windows. Second of all, most applications (unless written by Microsoft themselves) look COMPLETELY different from one another. Go look at some screenshots of firewalls, quicken, games, office and firefox and tell me with a straight face that they all look the "same"!
The reason it's noticed in linux (at least by windows users) is because so much IS the same, that the small discrepancies stand out more.
If you are distributing proprietary software, chances are it's for profit. In which case distributing a tarball with the binaries will get you into MOST distros (ubuntu, arch, etc), there are just a small handful (fedora) that you'll have to package manually.
If you know what software you want, then go ahead and install it individually (any ubuntu install can be made identical to a base edubuntu install). The PURPOSE of edubuntu is that you can install it and not have to do all that tweaking yourself. That's the same reason there is also kubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu studio, etc.
The reason it's so easy in windows is because everything (framework, libraries, etc) is normally compiled right into the binary itself, this can just as easily be done on linux. The reason it ISN'T is because it's a stupid way to do it, if you have a 10 apps using library X, then you end up with a 10 copies of library X and waste a lot of harddrive space. Just link your libraries properly (any linux tutorial will show how) and let the distro maintainers handle the packaging, that's what they DO and they are probably MUCH better at it than you.
I have run GTK and QT applications in both KDE and Gnome without issue. Hell, I've run them in StumpWM without issue. The ONLY advantage to sticking to one framework is not having to install the extra framework (done automatically BTW) which basically just means you have 100MB less space on what is normally a 500+GB hard drive.
Please stop perpetuating the FUD that gtk and qt are like baking soda and vinagre.
forget 5 minutes, 10 SECONDS would be enough!
Do we really need to repeat this AGAIN? The *ONLY* reason windows appears to have better driver support is because the manufacturer/retailer spends all the time getting the drivers for you. Tell you what, buy a computer (with some windows version on it, such as windows 7), then wipe the harddrive and install linux plus windows (a *different* version than what came with it, such as Vista or XP). Now see which one takes longer to get FULLY working with drivers.
Every time I have done this, windows took SIGNIFICANTLY longer, linux usually just "worked".
Oh, and the only reason Mac seems to work so well is that there is extremely limited hardware available for it.
That is the dumbest analogy I've read in a long time (the very last part). What is the airplane supposed to represent? A distro? In that case, LinuxAir simply lets you use what-ever damn bolt you want for your own chair and they take off just the same.
Try using software with multiple scroll-boxes, in windows you need to click, then scroll. In linux you just hover and scroll, then move to the next one. You really don't realize how much of a PITA that click is until you've used linux for a while, then had to use a windows box.
Other "small" but SERIOUSLY useful things include
"highlight, then middle click" for copy/paste (no keyboard),
alt+MMB for re-sizing (no grabbing the corner)
alt+LMB for moving a window (my GOD that is useful!)
virtual terminals (WAY better than that "task manager" pos)
ssh: vnc is crap and always will be for remote application use
I could go on, but you get the idea. The big things in linux are amazing, but it's the little things (that have existed for over a DECADE) that really piss you off when you are forced to use a non-linux system for even 5 minutes.
They'll say "Well, we were going to do that anyway..." http://www.freegeek.org/
That's a very good question. One that they don't seem to be willing to answer on their website.
Really?
You mean like in Canada and many other countries around the world?