I get paid to write in both PHP and Java/JSP and while PHP is very cool and I enjoying using it a lot. To give any comparison between the two languages is not a very good idea. The reason being is that while they both have been applied in similar area's ie:(JSP/ Servelets and PHP) their core architectures could not be farther apart. I mean common half the functions in PHP can only be used on *nix's because PHP front ends common C libs and this is very useful for PHP because it allows you to use code commonly used in standalone applications on *nix's in a multi user web based application. However if I were to try and code a cross platform application in PHP I wouldn't get passed the first object because most of those C libs are only on *nix's and on top of that reusing other peoples code in PHP is pointless unless you plan to mimic the software environment that they run their Lapp on. On the other hand all code written Java will always work on any machine because the over all architecture of the JVM. Again PHP was designed to be a powerful language used for the web applications and more specificly designed to take advantage of existing open source C libs to make complex web applications easier to code. And yes I know there is a compiler and I have seen the GTK stuff and I like it very much but all you need to do is go ahead and write command line application in PHP that makes an LDAP query then uses that information to make a gif. Write that code and then try to get it to work on windows and on *nix's and you tell me how that works out for you...
hmm good point if a criminal network uses open source PGP and evades the governments attemts to interpect thier communications it would be helping terrorist's... more than buying a bag of weed grown up the street from you by some hippie dirt bag.
that's what i'm talking about clusters of machines with daemons that people can issue commands to and have the cluster crunch for them and all publicly available weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! !!! i'm with ya
under that rational you should crawl in a hole and die. you unknowingly trust your life to technology everyday. for instance the traffic light control system in your city could get a buggy code upgrade tommorow and you wouldn'nt have a clue... but it could kill you.
it won't you'd think they would have learned form the 80's when aggresive TV adds were at thier height. people don't like them and they drive consumers away. f**king bastards. I think Bill Hicks put it best... "If anyone in the audience is in marketing please go kill your self. No No I know what your thinking.. he must be playing to the anti marketing dollar... no i'm not just go kill your self"
Alabama also thinks that the ten comandments should be in a court of law. Fuck them and thier right wing bullshit. You must remember the Christian Coalition will benifit the most from anti-science propaganda such as the so called faked moon missions.
@Home went out of business, which means they can't pay for thier internet network so you have to switch over At&T's network.
Comsat purchased AT&T (network and all)
where's the switch over?
sure they could switch people over but that does not contribute to the bottom line. My prediction is that the two networks will remain very seperate until they have to merge them. Maybe a logo change on your bill.
Gimme a fucking break what the hell does that mean. What is your deffinition of support... somebody to call and bitch at when it don't work? well that is bullshit too because it doesn't get the damn problem fixed. The biggest problem I have seen with pay products is that thier support is complete marketing bullshit and serves no purpose in the real world. For instance Oracle you have to pay an annual contract to have access to thier web site that has thier support documents and on top of that every damn time I've been thier I can't even find the fucking solution then I go search on Google and I find the problem in some Open Source forum that happens top be coding OSS for Oracle and they have broken down the problem with out the help of Oracle and have FREELY posted the sollution. Now tell me again why I pay Oracle for an annual support contract?... Hmm?... yeah that's what I thought.
that your Java excuses are bull shit propaganda. My company has built an application that has to proccess numerical values at incredible speeds and in real time and we were advised that C++ would be the only solution. Well we decided to use java and have not had any preformance problems what so ever. But in answer to the your general problem. It sounds to me like your lack of initial architecture is what is killing you. You need to rethink the architecture of your app and put code into the appropraite layers of that architecture. Every time I hear about a problem proting to multiple systems or tweaking code because of compilers, it just screams architecture redesign.
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I get paid to write in both PHP and Java/JSP and while PHP is very cool and I enjoying using it a lot. To give any comparison between the two languages is not a very good idea. The reason being is that while they both have been applied in similar area's ie:(JSP/ Servelets and PHP) their core architectures could not be farther apart. I mean common half the functions in PHP can only be used on *nix's because PHP front ends common C libs and this is very useful for PHP because it allows you to use code commonly used in standalone applications on *nix's in a multi user web based application. However if I were to try and code a cross platform application in PHP I wouldn't get passed the first object because most of those C libs are only on *nix's and on top of that reusing other peoples code in PHP is pointless unless you plan to mimic the software environment that they run their Lapp on. On the other hand all code written Java will always work on any machine because the over all architecture of the JVM. Again PHP was designed to be a powerful language used for the web applications and more specificly designed to take advantage of existing open source C libs to make complex web applications easier to code. And yes I know there is a compiler and I have seen the GTK stuff and I like it very much but all you need to do is go ahead and write command line application in PHP that makes an LDAP query then uses that information to make a gif. Write that code and then try to get it to work on windows and on *nix's and you tell me how that works out for you...
oh that statement is not dripping with conspiracy theory.
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hmm good point if a criminal network uses open source PGP and evades the governments attemts to interpect thier communications it would be helping terrorist's... more than buying a bag of weed grown up the street from you by some hippie dirt bag.
your absolutly correct my company's business model is simmilar to this company and it is working minus the license fee's.
that's what i'm talking about clusters of machines with daemons that people can issue commands to and have the cluster crunch for them and all publicly available weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! !!! i'm with ya
under that rational you should crawl in a hole and die. you unknowingly trust your life to technology everyday. for instance the traffic light control system in your city could get a buggy code upgrade tommorow and you wouldn'nt have a clue... but it could kill you.
I agree where the hell is the programming dicipline these days. i mean for god sake test your software.
this guy is cool and the balloon is cool. this is the coolest article i've seen on ./ in a while.
uh uh any takers fatty's
take a few physics courses on thermodynamics and you'll find out why it must be bullshit
it won't you'd think they would have learned form the 80's when aggresive TV adds were at thier height. people don't like them and they drive consumers away. f**king bastards. I think Bill Hicks put it best... "If anyone in the audience is in marketing please go kill your self. No No I know what your thinking.. he must be playing to the anti marketing dollar... no i'm not just go kill your self"
Alabama also thinks that the ten comandments should be in a court of law. Fuck them and thier right wing bullshit. You must remember the Christian Coalition will benifit the most from anti-science propaganda such as the so called faked moon missions.
"these are simple folk, people of the land... you know... morons " Gene Wilder - Blazing Saddles
and instead were places to actually get usefull information. Wouldn't that be a wonderfull thing.
there are neighborhoods that get nothing and others that are great. Welcome to mountain area's weeeeee, Denver CO AT&T wireless
what? Let's re-cap shall we:
@Home went out of business, which means they can't pay for thier internet network so you have to switch over At&T's network.
Comsat purchased AT&T (network and all)
where's the switch over?
sure they could switch people over but that does not contribute to the bottom line. My prediction is that the two networks will remain very seperate until they have to merge them. Maybe a logo change on your bill.
grow up, M$ makes that in a quarter or less.
unknown? crawl out from under your rock bud
I'll kill somebody. While I'm on the raod to Peace :)
"Very few OSS projects have real support."
Gimme a fucking break what the hell does that mean. What is your deffinition of support... somebody to call and bitch at when it don't work? well that is bullshit too because it doesn't get the damn problem fixed. The biggest problem I have seen with pay products is that thier support is complete marketing bullshit and serves no purpose in the real world. For instance Oracle you have to pay an annual contract to have access to thier web site that has thier support documents and on top of that every damn time I've been thier I can't even find the fucking solution then I go search on Google and I find the problem in some Open Source forum that happens top be coding OSS for Oracle and they have broken down the problem with out the help of Oracle and have FREELY posted the sollution. Now tell me again why I pay Oracle for an annual support contract?... Hmm?... yeah that's what I thought.
here here... I agree completly
that your Java excuses are bull shit propaganda. My company has built an application that has to proccess numerical values at incredible speeds and in real time and we were advised that C++ would be the only solution. Well we decided to use java and have not had any preformance problems what so ever. But in answer to the your general problem. It sounds to me like your lack of initial architecture is what is killing you. You need to rethink the architecture of your app and put code into the appropraite layers of that architecture. Every time I hear about a problem proting to multiple systems or tweaking code because of compilers, it just screams architecture redesign.
nope your right
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I've never worn a suit at my work I've have never even seen my CEO wear a suit I've never seen our chief investor wear a suit except halloween. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa