It is being developed by Will Lachance and Marc Maurer for Abiword 2.0 (and OpenOffice too, and KOffice hopefully), I believe there are already Abiword builds with WordPerfect support already available. WordPerfect support will definately be included in Abiword 2.0
I am sure developers willing to help or testers who can break it would be appreciated.
both 1.2 and 1.3 have slightly different versions of a Preview in the open dialog. in 1.2 you select an image and there is a little button, the text on the button says "Generate Preview" which it does when you press it.
Could you please (politely) say what they are? Are there fundamental features that you are missing or is that the GIMP is just less friendly and usable in general?
Perhaps if you can give good feedback I could file some bug reports and suggestions, and in general I am interested to know what other people dont like about the GIMP.
I use the GIMP, I know it could be better but I am not so sure about what stuff exactly should be improved.
> I *really* think the LGPL should be known as the "Library GPL"
It was originally (but maybe you already know that and want to change it back).
The intention was that people would use LGPL for libraries and GPL for Applications but like any good piece of software people did not use it as the author intended. The name was innappropriate when people started using the LGPL for whole programs.
Geeks use differently technology but teenage girls talk incessantly on the phone.
Thankfully since cellular phones have become more popular, nowadays there is less need to fight for little brothers to fight big sisters for the phoneline.
Please do carefully think about the problems you had. Even if they were due to inexperience they may well provide you with an insight on how the interface could be imporved.
Self awareness and careful analysis will allow you to do useful research in the area of Human Computer Interaction without the need for any specialised knowledge or equipment (although reading up on the on Usability and HCI should help you distill the issues you are having and help you write clear and constructive criticism).
They must have some plan to support "legacy" software.
Killing two birds with one stone, i think the recent purchase by Microsoft of Virtual PC might have something to do with Legacy support. As well as a providing a way to keep Apple on their toes
www.macslash.com had an article on it... search the old articles for it an the story will point you to the website with details on film gimp on os x
The port still requires an X-Server, it is not a GTK OSX app but there seems to be work in progress to make a GTK OSX version of Film Gimp.
Hopefully the high standards of Mac users and developers will help force FilmGimp (and hopefully GIMP) to become more flexible and user friendly.
previously alt+d was taken by the debug menu but that has changed to 'Deb_ug' and now alt+d will put you where you want to go, right in the location bar.
Ctrl click (instead of shift click) opens a new window in Mozilla. Middle click (or click with the mouse wheel) opens a new tab. Shift click is used for saving a link target.
Internet explorer does not seem to do anything with Ctrl+Click, although i expect it has a different keybinding somewhere.
Well I was at the show on Saturday, and apparently from the blurb on the stand it would appear that the speedup is achived by increasing your priority on the server.
So your connection can do 7.5k per sec, but the server is only giving you 2.5k per sec, increase priority, and get 7.5k (300% or thereabouts).
Of couse this appears to work best if the server uses (and I quote) "Windows INet controls".
YMMV
-- John Allen,
There are various other threads which are very similar to what has been discussed here.
More information Here: http://www.nandotimes.com/technology/story/ 712974p -5244591c.html
Here is the website for the Young Scientist competition but they have not bothered to put up this years results yet http://www.esatys.com/gen_info_awards.htm
Pornzilla http://mywebpage.netscape.com/aufbau01/ The whole concept amuses me. A better porn browser just happens to be a better browser in general.
Leech for Mozilla http://leech.mozdev.org/ Neet, makes downloading lots of files much easier.
And a thumbnail gallery listing http://thehun.net or google to find something.
If you want to try* and make money off of porn this might also be of interst. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/10/29/9314/14 84 * try winning your state lottery, the odds are probably better.
GQview is a fairly good thumbnail browser and has a really useful compare images feature, you can reasonbly easily find and remove duplicates.
Who needs IMDB when you have CNDB! http://cndb.com terrible colour scheme but once you have gotten over the initial suprise and amusement that someone actually put this thing together it can actually be useful.
The Porn HOWTO would definately need to have a large Image Viewing as well as Movie viewing howto.
bleuch, boring, pr0n what a waste of time, better things to be doing. FAT porn should be banned
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:53:06 -0500 From: Dom Lachowicz To: abiword-dev@abisource.com Cc: abiword-user@abisource.com Subject: PayPal update
A very nice and polite woman named Heather from PayPal called my home number this morning in order to resolve this dispute between AbiWord and PayPal.
She emailed me 2 affidavits that I must sign, notarize, and then mail via post back to the PayPal headquarters in Omaha, Nebraska. The $581 will be credited to my account immediately thereafter. This means that within one working week the AbiWord Fund will have its $581 back, less the cost of postage and a notary's fee. All in all, that isn't so bad.
To the folks at PayPal, I applaud you for doing the right thing, even if it took a while to do it. In my eyes, I feel that your company has redeemed itself. I only pray that your company handles all future complaints with the due-diligence that they deserve.
To all of those who have written letters of support to both me and PayPal on my behalf, I thank you. I think that if nothing else, we've helped raise some awareness in the general community. At the very least, we've gotten our money back:)
Thanks, Dom
--- *) The PayPal documents were multi-page MS Word documents. AbiWord opened and printed both copies (paper output in my hands) before OpenOffice even loaded. Abi's versions look better, to boot.
*) Omaha is also the US city where Nyorp, our "little BSD server that could" resides.
Just using Access as a database frontend, have you tried Gnome-DB? If Gnome DB is missing stuff then please do take the time to submit bug reports. http://www.gnome-db.org/
I dont use News much anymore and dont get what is so important about SPA (Secure Password Authentication) but if Pan does not support it then please do file a bug report and explain why it is so important http://pan.rebelbase.com/bugs/
Even if you dont think of yourself as a programmer using and testing programs and taking the time to fill intelligent well informed bug reports and other feedback is really useful.
Has anyone else gotten so familiar with the daft Gnaming Konventions of many Free Software projects that they mistakenly assumed Kino was related to KDE? (It is gkt based, see the build requirments page)
Sakila, makes me think of tequila... Mmm, tequila. It's gonna be a fun weekend:)
You should be scared of Telnet, it sends everything in plaintext including your password. you should definately be using some sort of SSH (secure shell) instead such as putty and if you are going to use SSH you should probably use SCP (secure copy), WinSCP is a particularly nice frontend to Scp and yes it is open source too.
You should definately take a look at the OpenCD project http://www.theopencd.org/thelist/
All software to be included in the CD must be Open Source (OSI approved license).
The CD does not include Cygwin only programs or programs that require an XServer.
Skip the openoffice page and go straight to the real action libwpd.sourceforge.net
It is being developed by Will Lachance and Marc Maurer for Abiword 2.0 (and OpenOffice too, and KOffice hopefully), I believe there are already Abiword builds with WordPerfect support already available. WordPerfect support will definately be included in Abiword 2.0
I am sure developers willing to help or testers who can break it would be appreciated.
most!
(+1 Obscure Reference)
> File preview when opening images would be nice
both 1.2 and 1.3 have slightly different versions of a Preview in the open dialog.
in 1.2 you select an image and there is a little button, the text on the button says "Generate Preview" which it does when you press it.
You have criticisms of the GIMP, fair enough.
Could you please (politely) say what they are?
Are there fundamental features that you are missing or is that the GIMP is just less friendly and usable in general?
Perhaps if you can give good feedback I could file some bug reports and suggestions, and in general I am interested to know what other people dont like about the GIMP.
I use the GIMP, I know it could be better but I am not so sure about what stuff exactly should be improved.
> I *really* think the LGPL should be known as the "Library GPL"
It was originally
(but maybe you already know that and want to change it back).
The intention was that people would use LGPL for libraries and GPL for Applications but like any good piece of software people did not use it as the author intended.
The name was innappropriate when people started using the LGPL for whole programs.
> if Linus&Co decide to stop whatever they're doing and go live fat and happy in Silicon Valley
:)
Linus Torvalds moved from Helsinki to Silicon Valley many years ago
Geeks use differently technology but teenage girls talk incessantly on the phone.
Thankfully since cellular phones have become more popular, nowadays there is less need to fight for little brothers to fight big sisters for the phoneline.
Please do carefully think about the problems you had. Even if they were due to inexperience they may well provide you with an insight on how the interface could be imporved.
Self awareness and careful analysis will allow you to do useful research in the area of Human Computer Interaction without the need for any specialised knowledge or equipment (although reading up on the on Usability and HCI should help you distill the issues you are having and help you write clear and constructive criticism).
Good luck.
> (actually any decent app period) should be totally keyboard navigable
I tried to tell that to the GIMP developers but they told me to fuck off.
It is about time the accusations about Apple ripping off Xerox PARC died off. Mod the parent up.
Killing two birds with one stone, i think the recent purchase by Microsoft of Virtual PC might have something to do with Legacy support. As well as a providing a way to keep Apple on their toes
The port still requires an X-Server, it is not a GTK OSX app but there seems to be work in progress to make a GTK OSX version of Film Gimp.
Hopefully the high standards of Mac users and developers will help force FilmGimp (and hopefully GIMP) to become more flexible and user friendly.
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/
have a read, get an idea of what goes on and maybe sign up.
Wine changed to LGPL, which does include GPL but there are important differences and more flexible for commercial developers.
I CH -ONE-OF-THE-DIFFERENT-WINE-PACKAGES
http://www.winehq.org/docs/wine-faq/t1.shtml#WH
> Alt-D puts me in the address bar
Mozilla 1.3a
works like a charm.
previously alt+d was taken by the debug menu but that has changed to 'Deb_ug' and now alt+d will put you where you want to go, right in the location bar.
Ctrl click (instead of shift click) opens a new window in Mozilla.
Middle click (or click with the mouse wheel) opens a new tab.
Shift click is used for saving a link target.
Internet explorer does not seem to do anything with Ctrl+Click, although i expect it has a different keybinding somewhere.
guess it all depends on what you are used to.
The best information i have been able to find on this topic is from ILUG (Irish Linux Users Group) some of whom actually attended the show.
http://www.linux.ie/pipermail/ilug/2003-January/0
There are various other threads which are very similar to what has been discussed here.
While the topic is vaguely Ireland related i may as well mention Guadec will be in Ireland this year!
More information Here:
http://www.nandotimes.com/technology/story
Here is the website for the Young Scientist competition but they have not bothered to put up this years results yet
http://www.esatys.com/gen_info_awards.htm
Couldn't agree with you more.
Tabs are overrated.
Pornzilla/
4 84
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/aufbau01
The whole concept amuses me.
A better porn browser just happens to be a better browser in general.
Leech for Mozilla
http://leech.mozdev.org/
Neet, makes downloading lots of files much easier.
And a thumbnail gallery listing
http://thehun.net
or google to find something.
If you want to try* and make money off of porn this might also be of interst.
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/10/29/9314/1
* try winning your state lottery, the odds are probably better.
GQview is a fairly good thumbnail browser and has a really useful compare images feature, you can reasonbly easily find and remove duplicates.
Who needs IMDB when you have CNDB!
http://cndb.com
terrible colour scheme but once you have gotten over the initial suprise and amusement that someone actually put this thing together it can actually be useful.
The Porn HOWTO would definately need to have a large Image Viewing as well as Movie viewing howto.
bleuch, boring, pr0n what a waste of time, better things to be doing. FAT porn should be banned
The problem seems to be resolved, thanks to all for their support.
2 /O ct/0462.html
:)
http://abisource.com/mailinglists/abiword-dev/0
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:53:06 -0500
From: Dom Lachowicz
To: abiword-dev@abisource.com
Cc: abiword-user@abisource.com
Subject: PayPal update
A very nice and polite woman named Heather from PayPal called my home
number this morning in order to resolve this dispute between AbiWord
and PayPal.
She emailed me 2 affidavits that I must sign, notarize, and then mail
via post back to the PayPal headquarters in Omaha, Nebraska. The $581
will be credited to my account immediately thereafter. This means that
within one working week the AbiWord Fund will have its $581 back, less
the cost of postage and a notary's fee. All in all, that isn't so bad.
To the folks at PayPal, I applaud you for doing the right thing, even
if it took a while to do it. In my eyes, I feel that your company has
redeemed itself. I only pray that your company handles all future
complaints with the due-diligence that they deserve.
To all of those who have written letters of support to both me and
PayPal on my behalf, I thank you. I think that if nothing else, we've
helped raise some awareness in the general community. At the very
least, we've gotten our money back
Thanks,
Dom
---
*) The PayPal documents were multi-page MS Word documents. AbiWord
opened and printed both copies (paper output in my hands) before
OpenOffice even loaded. Abi's versions look better, to boot.
*) Omaha is also the US city where Nyorp, our "little BSD server that
could" resides.
Just using Access as a database frontend, have you tried Gnome-DB? If Gnome DB is missing stuff then please do take the time to submit bug reports.
http://www.gnome-db.org/
I dont use News much anymore and dont get what is so important about SPA (Secure Password Authentication) but if Pan does not support it then please do file a bug report and explain why it is so important
http://pan.rebelbase.com/bugs/
Even if you dont think of yourself as a programmer using and testing programs and taking the time to fill intelligent well informed bug reports and other feedback is really useful.
Has anyone else gotten so familiar with the daft Gnaming Konventions of many Free Software projects that they mistakenly assumed Kino was related to KDE?
... :)
(It is gkt based, see the build requirments page)
Sakila, makes me think of tequila
Mmm, tequila. It's gonna be a fun weekend
You should be scared of Telnet, it sends everything in plaintext including your password.
you should definately be using some sort of SSH (secure shell) instead such as putty and if you are going to use SSH you should probably use SCP (secure copy), WinSCP is a particularly nice frontend to Scp and yes it is open source too.
Thanks to Tor Lillqvist for making Gimp for windows possible.
I eagerly await the day when i can include GoBe Productive on this list, it is really 'suite' (if you will forgive the pun).
You should definately take a look at the OpenCD project
http://www.theopencd.org/thelist/
All software to be included in the CD must be Open Source (OSI approved license).
The CD does not include Cygwin only programs or programs that require an XServer.