And why? You think this is some nefarious plot to screw the customer? More likely some dumb idea from some part of the company which didn't think it all the way through.
Some people go on foreign vacation for that long and don't use their phone.
huh? I don't think I've ever seen anyone go on vacation without using their phone. WiFi, and local SIM cards are so incredibly prevalent that unless you're climbing Mt Everest you're probably likely to not only take your phone on vacation but likely use it too.
Phone user is not the customer, he's the product. Since the product isn't in use, Google purged the data.
Oh look that old meme again. As if Google has no incentive to ensure their products are happy and continue being the products.
Since they give away the storage space, they need a short retention time or it gets too big and unwieldy.
Err no, backups don't grow indefinitely.
his is why I don't make myself the product. I pay for things like email and backup storage. With this model, my ISP has a financial incentive to keep my data online and not remove it.
hahahahahhaha. Friday comedy gold. You considered doing stand-up? It would really please all the people who lost their data from similar subscription services for similar reasons you don't understand because you parrot the same "you are the product" meme without applying any thought.
Its cheap calories in the form of junk food. Good food has gotten so expensive
Spoken like someone who doesn't cook good food. I only eat junkfood when I really need to, it's far more expensive than making something with nice fresh ingredients from the store.
If their advertising model can be broken with a web browser that provides a feature that people want then perhaps they should change their advertising model.
The problem is what do we change it to? Random ads for penis enlargements and Russian mail order brides like the internet used to be?
If I want to watch your video then I'll hit the play button, thankyouverymuch.
Advertising survives only on the short bursts of your subconscious attention. It doesn't work if you rely on the user to actively display the advert. Though I agree moving ads on a static page, or anything with audio and video needs to rot in the darkest pits of hell, and I would question if it is actually more or less effective than non intrusive advertisement.
Basically, you hurt people. If you disappear that will be a good thing.
Not quite. While they hurt some people they provide income to others to cover their costs. The solution would be to make them stop hurting people rather than to make them disappear.
Tell me, how many subscription services have you signed up for? Have you paid your money to every website you visited today?
If timely and useful advertising is so valuable to us users, then why are they giving it away for free?
Because you've fallen into the same trap as all those parrots squawking "you're the product" everytime someone uses a free service. There's mutual benefits to be gained in co-operating in the world.
Advertising's primary purpose was (emphasis on past tense) to inform users. In that regard timely and useful ads are far better than what the internet used to have, scams for sexy singles, penis enlargements, punching a monkey, gambling, and making $2000 a day working from home.
You see just because we don't pay for something, doesn't mean we don't gain a benefit from it. Advertisers literally rely on the principle of mutual benefit, they wouldn't exist otherwise.
The idea that "consumers" want ads, much less that they want "timely and useful" ads is mistaken.
That's a false equivalency. Consumers don't want ads, but if we get ads anyway what is it we want? Personally I prefer "timely and useful" rather than the old internet of gambling, sexy singles, and penis enlargement.
Advertisers may have killed do not track, but MS have them the ammo to do it. It was industry self regulation. That only works when everyone plays by the rules, which MS did by making it opt in instead of opt out.
That's confirmation bias because you notice things that are incredibly stupid like advertising something after it's been purchased. If you pay a lot of attention you'll start seeing ads related to websites you've been to recently, or searches you've recently done.
Chances are you're simply ignoring them because we are getting so incredibly desensitised to advertising.
But I thought PASV, which runs both connections in the same direction and cooperates better with NAT, had become more common.
It has, and brought it's own problems with it. But you highlighted my point well. Active, passive, one port, two ports, server to server FXP, and all of this is apparently "simple", where in reality its a damn complicated protocol with a lot of intricacies which has been extended and hacked about many times over the years.
Wanna bet your $900 pair didn't cost much more than the Beats to manufacture?
Yeah gladly. You see markups disappear rapidly in high end audio up to a certain point before they re-appear again in quality that can only be described as vapour ware (cough high end cables cough). I take it you're USA based? If you're ever in NY, go check out how they manufacture Grado headphones. Hand made, hand checked and each driver put through a quality control regime which the entire budget of beats would eat up just paying some poor Chinese slave their hourly wage.
and I'm envious that you have hours to lay in bed quietly!
Don't be, I'm sure if you thought about what you do you'll probably spend many hours a week doing something you enjoy as well. A lot of people who live happy lives are envious for no reason.:-)
In real life companies single source, because (1) in real life they single source stuff anyway, (2) they're buying a solution not a technology, and (3) single sourcing is a guarantee that everything works together.
You missed the point. It's not about single sourcing, it's about locking yourself into whole source change and becoming dependent on a vendor. To address your points: 1. They will do this anyway, they are just switching to a platform that allows them to move if a vendor doesn't play along. 2. Depends on the company. It looks like they are developing the solution themselves, and even if they aren't they are more likely to find solution providers on an open multi-vendor platform. 3. You just made me laugh, cry, and throw up all at the same time. It's not a guarantee, it's not even a slightly higher probability. In fact, I'd wager it's probably a lower probability, because nothing screams quality and keeping your customer happy like the comfort of knowing they are locked into your ecosystem and would need to spend a lot of money to change.
I hope you realise what you said and feel shame for having said it, especially given we are talking about abandoning the single source precisely because none of point 3 happened.
Facts? The desktop was a disaster for new users 2 decades ago requiring a lot of learning. The changes in the UI over the past 2 decades has been a big contributor to the general and widespread acceptance of computers.
Your fact is backwards, the desktop of *now* is *not* usable for advanced powerusers.
Oh wow, that's SUCH important improvement that I can hardly contain my excitement! It's okay that the rest of the desktop-environment sucks ass as long as I get my emojis!
I know man. I just U+1F4A9'd myself in excitement.
Go to bed, you're drunk. The only thing "simple" about FTP is the minds that came up with a system that requires multiple ports with connections established in different directions that is the bane of the modern internet NAT'd routing.
Just because it's plain text and in english, doesn't make it "simple".
My "good" headphones cost $15, so yeah I'm not even touching a $200 pair.
Each to their own. My sister isn't fussed about the difference between her $15 headphones and my $900 set either. But then a favourite passtime of mine is laying in a quiet bed listening to music for hours on end.
Point is, Beats are the Chanel of the headphone world. You're paying 100% for name and brand recognition and zero for quality. (Still can't believe my sister spent $250 on Chanel sunglasses which are neither polarised, nor block IR, and don't even have anti-glare coating on them)
At least your $15 likely goes into the manufacture. With Beats, a portion of those $15 goes to a few metal weights to make them seem heavier and thus higher quality.
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And why? You think this is some nefarious plot to screw the customer? More likely some dumb idea from some part of the company which didn't think it all the way through.
Please do tell me about how you ignored all the times Apple has removed something without asking the customer.
Why is it that every story that's posted here has already been on Reddit for at least a couple days?
Because Slashdot is and always has been a news aggregator. The very principle on which it is based requires a story to be somewhere else first.
Some people go on foreign vacation for that long and don't use their phone.
huh? I don't think I've ever seen anyone go on vacation without using their phone. WiFi, and local SIM cards are so incredibly prevalent that unless you're climbing Mt Everest you're probably likely to not only take your phone on vacation but likely use it too.
errr. Nope I was wrong. Looks like using your phone on Mt Everest isn't a problem either
Phone user is not the customer, he's the product. Since the product isn't in use, Google purged the data.
Oh look that old meme again. As if Google has no incentive to ensure their products are happy and continue being the products.
Since they give away the storage space, they need a short retention time or it gets too big and unwieldy.
Err no, backups don't grow indefinitely.
his is why I don't make myself the product. I pay for things like email and backup storage. With this model, my ISP has a financial incentive to keep my data online and not remove it.
hahahahahhaha. Friday comedy gold. You considered doing stand-up? It would really please all the people who lost their data from similar subscription services for similar reasons you don't understand because you parrot the same "you are the product" meme without applying any thought.
it would be extremely easy to sabotage one and cause untold destruction and potential loss of life.
Err you basically just described a train.
Its cheap calories in the form of junk food. Good food has gotten so expensive
Spoken like someone who doesn't cook good food. I only eat junkfood when I really need to, it's far more expensive than making something with nice fresh ingredients from the store.
It's the gender gap conflated with the glass ceiling all in one lawsuit.
You could try, but SJWs will start a white lives matter movement.
Can we add SI-phobe to those who think micro is closer to pico than nano?
If their advertising model can be broken with a web browser that provides a feature that people want then perhaps they should change their advertising model.
The problem is what do we change it to? Random ads for penis enlargements and Russian mail order brides like the internet used to be?
If I want to watch your video then I'll hit the play button, thankyouverymuch.
Advertising survives only on the short bursts of your subconscious attention. It doesn't work if you rely on the user to actively display the advert. Though I agree moving ads on a static page, or anything with audio and video needs to rot in the darkest pits of hell, and I would question if it is actually more or less effective than non intrusive advertisement.
I can't recall a single time in my entire internet history that I've ever purposefully clicked on an ad.
You don't need to click on an advertisement for it to have an [Why not enjoy a refreshing Coca Cola*] effect. [Have you noticed how thirsty you are?]
*Remind me to send them an invoice for 1c.
Basically, you hurt people. If you disappear that will be a good thing.
Not quite. While they hurt some people they provide income to others to cover their costs. The solution would be to make them stop hurting people rather than to make them disappear.
Tell me, how many subscription services have you signed up for? Have you paid your money to every website you visited today?
If timely and useful advertising is so valuable to us users, then why are they giving it away for free?
Because you've fallen into the same trap as all those parrots squawking "you're the product" everytime someone uses a free service. There's mutual benefits to be gained in co-operating in the world.
Advertising's primary purpose was (emphasis on past tense) to inform users. In that regard timely and useful ads are far better than what the internet used to have, scams for sexy singles, penis enlargements, punching a monkey, gambling, and making $2000 a day working from home.
You see just because we don't pay for something, doesn't mean we don't gain a benefit from it. Advertisers literally rely on the principle of mutual benefit, they wouldn't exist otherwise.
The idea that "consumers" want ads, much less that they want "timely and useful" ads is mistaken.
That's a false equivalency. Consumers don't want ads, but if we get ads anyway what is it we want? Personally I prefer "timely and useful" rather than the old internet of gambling, sexy singles, and penis enlargement.
Advertisers may have killed do not track, but MS have them the ammo to do it. It was industry self regulation. That only works when everyone plays by the rules, which MS did by making it opt in instead of opt out.
That's confirmation bias because you notice things that are incredibly stupid like advertising something after it's been purchased. If you pay a lot of attention you'll start seeing ads related to websites you've been to recently, or searches you've recently done.
Chances are you're simply ignoring them because we are getting so incredibly desensitised to advertising.
But there's an open question of whether some things need to be police proof, or everything needs to be police proof.
But I thought PASV, which runs both connections in the same direction and cooperates better with NAT, had become more common.
It has, and brought it's own problems with it. But you highlighted my point well. Active, passive, one port, two ports, server to server FXP, and all of this is apparently "simple", where in reality its a damn complicated protocol with a lot of intricacies which has been extended and hacked about many times over the years.
Wanna bet your $900 pair didn't cost much more than the Beats to manufacture?
Yeah gladly. You see markups disappear rapidly in high end audio up to a certain point before they re-appear again in quality that can only be described as vapour ware (cough high end cables cough). I take it you're USA based? If you're ever in NY, go check out how they manufacture Grado headphones. Hand made, hand checked and each driver put through a quality control regime which the entire budget of beats would eat up just paying some poor Chinese slave their hourly wage.
and I'm envious that you have hours to lay in bed quietly!
Don't be, I'm sure if you thought about what you do you'll probably spend many hours a week doing something you enjoy as well. A lot of people who live happy lives are envious for no reason. :-)
In real life companies single source, because (1) in real life they single source stuff anyway, (2) they're buying a solution not a technology, and (3) single sourcing is a guarantee that everything works together.
You missed the point. It's not about single sourcing, it's about locking yourself into whole source change and becoming dependent on a vendor. To address your points:
1. They will do this anyway, they are just switching to a platform that allows them to move if a vendor doesn't play along.
2. Depends on the company. It looks like they are developing the solution themselves, and even if they aren't they are more likely to find solution providers on an open multi-vendor platform.
3. You just made me laugh, cry, and throw up all at the same time. It's not a guarantee, it's not even a slightly higher probability. In fact, I'd wager it's probably a lower probability, because nothing screams quality and keeping your customer happy like the comfort of knowing they are locked into your ecosystem and would need to spend a lot of money to change.
I hope you realise what you said and feel shame for having said it, especially given we are talking about abandoning the single source precisely because none of point 3 happened.
The desktop was perfectly usable two decades ago.
Facts? The desktop was a disaster for new users 2 decades ago requiring a lot of learning. The changes in the UI over the past 2 decades has been a big contributor to the general and widespread acceptance of computers.
Your fact is backwards, the desktop of *now* is *not* usable for advanced powerusers.
Oh wow, that's SUCH important improvement that I can hardly contain my excitement! It's okay that the rest of the desktop-environment sucks ass as long as I get my emojis!
I know man. I just U+1F4A9'd myself in excitement.
X has always been slow as fuck.
He did say it was slow on Wayland too.
Yes, FTP isn't secure by itself, but it's simple.
Go to bed, you're drunk. The only thing "simple" about FTP is the minds that came up with a system that requires multiple ports with connections established in different directions that is the bane of the modern internet NAT'd routing.
Just because it's plain text and in english, doesn't make it "simple".
My "good" headphones cost $15, so yeah I'm not even touching a $200 pair.
Each to their own. My sister isn't fussed about the difference between her $15 headphones and my $900 set either. But then a favourite passtime of mine is laying in a quiet bed listening to music for hours on end.
Point is, Beats are the Chanel of the headphone world. You're paying 100% for name and brand recognition and zero for quality.
(Still can't believe my sister spent $250 on Chanel sunglasses which are neither polarised, nor block IR, and don't even have anti-glare coating on them)
At least your $15 likely goes into the manufacture. With Beats, a portion of those $15 goes to a few metal weights to make them seem heavier and thus higher quality.