Maybe this is all part of an EFF conspiracy where they have infiltrated the media corporations and are secretly compelling them to fuck their own customer, that way more and more will stop using their services and learn how to torrent.
That sounds like terrorism to me. "Stop making GM plants, or we'll fuck your shit up."
Were people looking for +1 Sarcastic and just got it wrong? If this guy isn't being sarcastic then he is a troll. Fucking terrorism, give me a break. I guess tagging a wall with spraypaint is terrorism too. Punching someone in the face at a bar is terrorism?
All the people that have suffered and died due to real terrorism hate you. So do their families.
This argument is particularly relevant in the USA as many farmers have already had this happen to them. Corn is the best example, where due to cross pollination from neighbours' patented crops almost all farmers who initially refused to use the patented seed stock are now either paying dues anyway, or being sued for not doing so. If the law were to be changed such that cross pollination of ones crops by patented genetic strains enabled the farmer to sue the seed company for damages to his farm, we would be having a far different argument. As it stands however these farmers face a real threat of losing their livelihood, and it is not a small chance, if these GM crops become commonly used it is almost unavoidable.
Devolution means the reversal of evolutionary changes, it is therefore a subtype of evolution itself and occurs frequently in biology. The classification of devolution with respect to evolution is generally the decreasing instead of increasing of complexity, or as wikipedia puts it, reverting to a more primitive form. Generally if a word is used, it has a meaning, and if that meaning also happens to be listed in a dictionary, then your argument is stupid. Prefixes and suffixes are usually pretty elastic in their meaning. Devolution is not a good example of this however as it works fairly well descriptively. A much better example is ravel vs. unravel. If you want to complain about misused prefixes you should start here. Despite it being counterintuitive however unravel still means what it means whether you like it or not.
Perhaps the joke is that in 3 years of filthy rich private aircraft travel they only found one filthy rich person using their plane to go to a tropical island for a holiday. Clearly all the other private aircraft owners are only using them for humanitarian aid.
So you cite a list of failed terrorist attacks since the bill was passed. How many of those were actually prevented as a direct result of the patriot act, and how many simply as a result of normal police work? I read some statistics a while back on the number of people actually arrested under the provisions of the patriot act for terrorism related charges, and how many resulted in convictions. I can't find this data anymore so I will not quote it here for fear of spreading hearsay. Let me just say if someone can get this number it would add a lot to the dabate, especially when compared to the number of people arrested under the act for non terrorism related charges. It was also interesting to note what percentage of the arrested were muslim and what percentage were catholic. I hope someone can find this data but I imagine it is not widely publicised and I have had no luck. If anyone does find this please pm them to me as I hate losing good sources, especially when they are hard to find again. I did find some limited data from The Washington Post in 2005 but that is out of date. The department of justice seems to have the data but not in an easily accessible or quotable form.
For now however, being unable to present facts about the effectiveness of the patriot act against terrorism, I will instead present facts about it's abuse at the hands of overzealous officials and law enforcement: Courtesy of wikipedia
Think of it like a doctor breaking patient confidentiality. Only in wikileaks case, fallout for "patient" is far more dramatic.
Exactly, if a doctor breaks his confidentiality agreement the patient usually doesn't end up in a cia black hole prison being tortured for the rest of their life.
If you think the world has continued to use outdated nuclear plants because anti-nuclear demonstrators won't let them build new ones, you are sadly naive and misguided. Old nuclear plants are used for far to long because of PROFIT. Yeah blame random citizens and call them luddites, no one will notice the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. It was nice to see that the nuclear shills went away for a while there while Fukushima was really bad. I mean a reasoned debate over energy generation is one thing but zomg 'anti-nuclear nuts' are forcing nuclear plants to be dangerous we're 'screwed' is far from that.
I think it is worth pointing out that this current lively debate about left vs right bias on slashdot and the media in general and how moderation systems can fail or be effective for political debate illustrates quite nicely the fact that slashdot has a good moderation system. There are few real trolls/spam in this thread, and every high rated comment has something interesting and insightful to add to the debate. Reading this thread on 4 or 5 threshold would lead to a fairly clear understanding of the ins and outs of this moderation system, and its effects on people's ability to make their points and express their views using it, with a minimal amount of reading. I like it, it is not perfect but it is the best I have ever seen.
Not to mention they probably want to get at least something out before PoE comes out because the games are likely to be in direct competition for customers, and due to the fact that PoE is free to play, it might be difficult to pull people away after the fact.
I just want to carry on the proud slashdot tradition of saying 'see nuclear power is perfectly safe' every time fukushima is mentioned. The Nuclear shills are quietening down but we mustn't forget our heritage
Killing Osama changes almost nothing, but the fact that the people in the US are looking at their groundless fears that they are fed every day is a small victory. Perhaps it will dawn on them one day.
Damn right. The pundits screaming Obama is a socialist, communist, nazi, islamic, athiest who wasn't born in the US on the Faux news network, the idea that the media would then subsequently blame the internet for this is laughable and pathetic.
complex interactions in order to overcome unpredictable challenges.
diablo 2 -
complex interaction = reapeatedly left click on monster
unpredictable challenges = the same monsters that always spawn in that area
Those are actually the key gameplay features that make a roguelike great, and the gaping holes in gameplay that make diablo 2 substandard.
Better yet, lets crowdsource bogus studies that prove that. "I looked under my fingernails and there was dirt, this proves that video games don't cause violence." By the metric this guy is using it is not the quality but the quantity. If we get some gamers together we could publish thousands of bogus studies and video games would cease to cause violence, saving many lives. Think of the children.
None of the XP install cds I have phone home, sure they might be more vulnerable when the automatic updates are no longer available, but as this will mean a migration to windows 7 for many, I imagine xp vulnerabilities will also be less of a priority for hackers and exploiters. When vista came out I said I would not upgrade until there were more software packages I wanted that didn't work on XP, than software packages I wanted that didn't work on vista. Now with vista in the trash can the same goes for 7. So far the count of programs that I use that don't work under 7 (all games) is actually shrinking as compatibility modes and community workarounds are becoming more widespread and effective. Nevertheless I have not found anything that wont work under XP, although I imagine I will want to play a dx10 only game at some point in the future. This countdown will go past like many others, I would not have noticed it for a couple more years if it were not for this article.
Interestingly enough, an edition of wikipedia that fell through a time-warp from 200 years in the future defines the Complaints Division of the Godaddy Corporation as: "A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."
not to mention that the fact that metric is all based in units of ten is only because we have ten fingers (digits). Still if you can master interstellar travel you should be able to cope with mathematics to any base
Germany manufacture a lot of mechanical parts and also have a strong industrial relationship with mexico. It is not unlikely that the hacker was employed in some part of the process of building the plant.
It should also be noted how major the difference is between a hack at a wind farm and a hack at a nuclear power facility, even a fake hack. Whats the worst you could do if you hacked a wind turbine? Well you could probably break it given the right wind conditions.
The above is actually a much more important point than it seems. According to this guy (about 9 mibutes in) the Copenhagen summit consensus panel estimated that loosening of trade barriers and subsidies in the US and EU would result in pulling hundreds of millions of people out of poverty in only 2-3 years and result in massive gains for the world economy. This would result also in wages going up in third world countries, making outsourcing less profitable and in turn putting money in the pockets of workers in the first world countries. The reason this isn't done is because it is more profitable for the corporations operating in those countries to have this poverty. To bring this train of thought back on topic, economically, sharing and globalism have an end result of making everyone better off. The question with copyright law as with free/fair trade is corporate profits vs social gains. Now choose.
For an even better example, how about the fact the urinating in public can get you on the sex offender registry, meaning you will never work again. Or the fact that vandalism theft drug possession and fraud are listed as a felonies and felons can't vote. Correct me if I am wrong here but doesn't this mean that if you meet the wrong judge on the wrong day you can get your right to vote taken away as a punishment for writing political graffiti? Not to mention free speech zones and the constitution free zone. or gitmo.
Joke I heard:
Q: Who was US president during the civil war?
A: All of them
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Maybe this is all part of an EFF conspiracy where they have infiltrated the media corporations and are secretly compelling them to fuck their own customer, that way more and more will stop using their services and learn how to torrent.
That sounds like terrorism to me. "Stop making GM plants, or we'll fuck your shit up."
Were people looking for +1 Sarcastic and just got it wrong? If this guy isn't being sarcastic then he is a troll. Fucking terrorism, give me a break. I guess tagging a wall with spraypaint is terrorism too. Punching someone in the face at a bar is terrorism?
All the people that have suffered and died due to real terrorism hate you. So do their families.
This argument is particularly relevant in the USA as many farmers have already had this happen to them. Corn is the best example, where due to cross pollination from neighbours' patented crops almost all farmers who initially refused to use the patented seed stock are now either paying dues anyway, or being sued for not doing so. If the law were to be changed such that cross pollination of ones crops by patented genetic strains enabled the farmer to sue the seed company for damages to his farm, we would be having a far different argument. As it stands however these farmers face a real threat of losing their livelihood, and it is not a small chance, if these GM crops become commonly used it is almost unavoidable.
Devolution means the reversal of evolutionary changes, it is therefore a subtype of evolution itself and occurs frequently in biology. The classification of devolution with respect to evolution is generally the decreasing instead of increasing of complexity, or as wikipedia puts it, reverting to a more primitive form. Generally if a word is used, it has a meaning, and if that meaning also happens to be listed in a dictionary, then your argument is stupid. Prefixes and suffixes are usually pretty elastic in their meaning. Devolution is not a good example of this however as it works fairly well descriptively. A much better example is ravel vs. unravel. If you want to complain about misused prefixes you should start here. Despite it being counterintuitive however unravel still means what it means whether you like it or not.
Perhaps the joke is that in 3 years of filthy rich private aircraft travel they only found one filthy rich person using their plane to go to a tropical island for a holiday. Clearly all the other private aircraft owners are only using them for humanitarian aid.
Didn't they already do a loose film adaptation of this? It was called the matrix or something
So you cite a list of failed terrorist attacks since the bill was passed. How many of those were actually prevented as a direct result of the patriot act, and how many simply as a result of normal police work? I read some statistics a while back on the number of people actually arrested under the provisions of the patriot act for terrorism related charges, and how many resulted in convictions. I can't find this data anymore so I will not quote it here for fear of spreading hearsay. Let me just say if someone can get this number it would add a lot to the dabate, especially when compared to the number of people arrested under the act for non terrorism related charges. It was also interesting to note what percentage of the arrested were muslim and what percentage were catholic. I hope someone can find this data but I imagine it is not widely publicised and I have had no luck. If anyone does find this please pm them to me as I hate losing good sources, especially when they are hard to find again. I did find some limited data from The Washington Post in 2005 but that is out of date. The department of justice seems to have the data but not in an easily accessible or quotable form.
For now however, being unable to present facts about the effectiveness of the patriot act against terrorism, I will instead present facts about it's abuse at the hands of overzealous officials and law enforcement: Courtesy of wikipedia
Too late, Australia already invaded you to bring biased media to your region.
Think of it like a doctor breaking patient confidentiality. Only in wikileaks case, fallout for "patient" is far more dramatic.
Exactly, if a doctor breaks his confidentiality agreement the patient usually doesn't end up in a cia black hole prison being tortured for the rest of their life.
If you think the world has continued to use outdated nuclear plants because anti-nuclear demonstrators won't let them build new ones, you are sadly naive and misguided. Old nuclear plants are used for far to long because of PROFIT. Yeah blame random citizens and call them luddites, no one will notice the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. It was nice to see that the nuclear shills went away for a while there while Fukushima was really bad. I mean a reasoned debate over energy generation is one thing but zomg 'anti-nuclear nuts' are forcing nuclear plants to be dangerous we're 'screwed' is far from that.
I think it is worth pointing out that this current lively debate about left vs right bias on slashdot and the media in general and how moderation systems can fail or be effective for political debate illustrates quite nicely the fact that slashdot has a good moderation system. There are few real trolls/spam in this thread, and every high rated comment has something interesting and insightful to add to the debate. Reading this thread on 4 or 5 threshold would lead to a fairly clear understanding of the ins and outs of this moderation system, and its effects on people's ability to make their points and express their views using it, with a minimal amount of reading. I like it, it is not perfect but it is the best I have ever seen.
My god, so millions of people will die in third world countries and we wont be able to tweet about it!?!?!
Not to mention they probably want to get at least something out before PoE comes out because the games are likely to be in direct competition for customers, and due to the fact that PoE is free to play, it might be difficult to pull people away after the fact.
I just want to carry on the proud slashdot tradition of saying 'see nuclear power is perfectly safe' every time fukushima is mentioned. The Nuclear shills are quietening down but we mustn't forget our heritage
Killing Osama changes almost nothing, but the fact that the people in the US are looking at their groundless fears that they are fed every day is a small victory. Perhaps it will dawn on them one day.
Damn right. The pundits screaming Obama is a socialist, communist, nazi, islamic, athiest who wasn't born in the US on the Faux news network, the idea that the media would then subsequently blame the internet for this is laughable and pathetic.
complex interactions in order to overcome unpredictable challenges.
diablo 2 -
complex interaction = reapeatedly left click on monster
unpredictable challenges = the same monsters that always spawn in that area
Those are actually the key gameplay features that make a roguelike great, and the gaping holes in gameplay that make diablo 2 substandard.
Better yet, lets crowdsource bogus studies that prove that. "I looked under my fingernails and there was dirt, this proves that video games don't cause violence." By the metric this guy is using it is not the quality but the quantity. If we get some gamers together we could publish thousands of bogus studies and video games would cease to cause violence, saving many lives. Think of the children.
None of the XP install cds I have phone home, sure they might be more vulnerable when the automatic updates are no longer available, but as this will mean a migration to windows 7 for many, I imagine xp vulnerabilities will also be less of a priority for hackers and exploiters. When vista came out I said I would not upgrade until there were more software packages I wanted that didn't work on XP, than software packages I wanted that didn't work on vista. Now with vista in the trash can the same goes for 7. So far the count of programs that I use that don't work under 7 (all games) is actually shrinking as compatibility modes and community workarounds are becoming more widespread and effective. Nevertheless I have not found anything that wont work under XP, although I imagine I will want to play a dx10 only game at some point in the future. This countdown will go past like many others, I would not have noticed it for a couple more years if it were not for this article.
Interestingly enough, an edition of wikipedia that fell through a time-warp from 200 years in the future defines the Complaints Division of the Godaddy Corporation as: "A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came."
and also used as a first aid remedy for some poisons like cyanide
not to mention that the fact that metric is all based in units of ten is only because we have ten fingers (digits). Still if you can master interstellar travel you should be able to cope with mathematics to any base
Germany manufacture a lot of mechanical parts and also have a strong industrial relationship with mexico. It is not unlikely that the hacker was employed in some part of the process of building the plant.
It should also be noted how major the difference is between a hack at a wind farm and a hack at a nuclear power facility, even a fake hack. Whats the worst you could do if you hacked a wind turbine? Well you could probably break it given the right wind conditions.
The above is actually a much more important point than it seems. According to this guy (about 9 mibutes in) the Copenhagen summit consensus panel estimated that loosening of trade barriers and subsidies in the US and EU would result in pulling hundreds of millions of people out of poverty in only 2-3 years and result in massive gains for the world economy. This would result also in wages going up in third world countries, making outsourcing less profitable and in turn putting money in the pockets of workers in the first world countries. The reason this isn't done is because it is more profitable for the corporations operating in those countries to have this poverty. To bring this train of thought back on topic, economically, sharing and globalism have an end result of making everyone better off. The question with copyright law as with free/fair trade is corporate profits vs social gains. Now choose.
For an even better example, how about the fact the urinating in public can get you on the sex offender registry, meaning you will never work again. Or the fact that vandalism theft drug possession and fraud are listed as a felonies and felons can't vote. Correct me if I am wrong here but doesn't this mean that if you meet the wrong judge on the wrong day you can get your right to vote taken away as a punishment for writing political graffiti? Not to mention free speech zones and the constitution free zone. or gitmo.
Joke I heard:
Q: Who was US president during the civil war?
A: All of them