It's funny. I read this line and wondered to myself...if it is having such a terrible effect on the IT industry, why the hell did my company just spend alomst 1 million dollars on IBM software (websphere, db2, tivoli) and IBM hardware for our new datacenter all running on RedHat Enterprise Linux which we also PURCHASED?
I'd have to agree. We've just recently decided to no longer purchase linksys equipment based on, not only the waulity, but the behaviour of Linksys in regards to product releases.
I wrote a little entry about it on my website. Linksys has lost my vote.
Funny you should mention that. As I've said before, the majority of slashdotters have probably never heard the words "supported configuration".
We actually have several gentoo boxes in production and our new enterprise production application will be running partly on Gentoo (CUPS for check printing - business rules you know) and one box running Firebird for data warehousing. The rest are a mix of RHAS3/2.1 depending on the program product installed (WAS/DB2/Tivoli)
I'm having to bring my admin team up to speed on Gentoo so I can actually take a vacation but considering we keep our own rsync server with buildpackages and use bindist, it aint no biggie;)
Having said that, our stores are being migrated to Fedora Core 1 with our own yum server and a few build hosts in the office for testing the RPMS. The end user doesn't see it unless it passes our build hosts and causes ZERO downtime. The only exception of course is kernel security fixes. Gotta reboot for those;)
In all fairness, if you read the bible as a whole, the new and old testaments do not contradict each other.
You have to understand that the New Testament is the fulfilling of the prophecies in the Old Testament. The key is in the name "Testament".
The whole point of the New Testament was to show that man needed a once and for all sacrifice because he could never live up to the standard that God required to get eternale life. That's the point of the Messiah.
You really need to view the New Testament through the eyes of the Hebrew Faith for it to make sense.
Having said that, I don't care either way what someone believes or if it's even true but at least try to view it as a whole work and not piecemeal as so many people like to do to discredit it.
There ARE contradictions between the two but only when you read one part at a time.
Then again it could be, in the words of Bill Hicks, that "God was fuckin' with ya!'
You've obviously, as most of slashdot it seems, have never heard the two words "supported configuration".
Let me explain. We're running a DB2/WAS installation. We bought all the hardware from IBM down to the IBM branded FC cards and FC switches. We then purchased several RHAS2.1 licenses for this installation.
Why? Enterprise. Pure and simple. We need immediate support from IBM and they have a very specific list of "supported configurations". Deviate and they won't touch you.
RedHat backporting fixes has only been a problem when certain drivers check for a SPECIFIC subrelease in the kernel. This happened with the IBM 3582 LTO robot we have.
RedHat AS2.1 uses kernel 2.4.9 but is constantly backporting security fixes. They rev the kernel RPMS like so:
2.4.9-e25summit, 2.4.9-e38summit and so on. Most driver vendors I've worked with check for RHAS 2.1 running kernel 2.4.9 and leave it at that. For some reason the blasted tape library drive checked for a specific rev number. I can't even download the kernel from RedHat or anywhere on the web that the stupid developer built the kernel against. At some point I was forced to cpio the rpm and force load the tape library driver just to get the damn thing loaded. Guess what? As I expected it worked just fine.
RedHat and SuSe and the gangs that backport do it for a very good reason. They have a kernel that hardware vendors build against. The backports go through some SERIOUS review to make sure they don't break anything existing. This also keeps the kernel version number they check for the same.
Well I can't speak for the iSeries and pSeries specifically but we went full xSeries for our new deployment because of IBM support. The biggest in our bunch are two x445 boxes. We may turn around and buy two more and and connect them to the existing ones to get the 16 CPU max on each box. Cost wise, these boxes weren't cheap but the support from IBM and the quality of hardware is unrivaled.
We also have numerous x335 pizza boxes that we can buy all day long and rack up because the are so cheap.
Our web and mail infrastructure runs on x345 boxes.
Everyone of these guys is running either RHAS3 or Gentoo.
I've become a whore for IBM lately. The hardware is rock solid and the support I've gotten from IBM has been stellar.
We may have to move up to i or z if we grow out of those 445s but if we do, we get to keep our same environment thanks to IBM's investment in Linux on the mainframe.
I think that's the real reason people buy it with that.
FYI if you want to see pictures of the current datacenter we're building out, Check it out
I won't disagree with that. I think it wasn't even that nefarious. I don't know how many people (other than you and I) even know that Office can actually be purchased piecemeal. I don't think you'll deny that MS doesn't like to advance that fact.
All in all, I don't think it was the author being vague about the fact that Outlook can be purchased alone so much as the author not even knowing.
How many people do you know run a previous version of Office with a newer version of Outlook. Read his statement again. Upgrading "OFFICE" not just "OUTLOOK".
Actually our company has taken the same route. We bought RHAS to be "supported" by IBM for our WAS/DB2 application. The other part of the application (CUPS print servers) are running gentoo. All of the rest of our internal company servers are running gentoo as well.
Support is really the key here. We bought the lowend support contract from RedHat though because there isn't much that we can't resolve that we would need a RedHat support call but with DB2 and WAS, don't even think about calling IBM unless your OS is listed on the supported page.
Sometimes it makes me wonder what these people who are bitching actually do for a living. RedHat earned our money because our program products are supported on it and we get uncontested support from IBM in those cases. I think that more than makes up for the cost of the 7 copies we bought.
The other aspect of RHEL is rhn. If you haven't managed a group of servers via RHN, you don't know what you're missing. Oh sure, you could hack out some perl scripts to do the same thing but do you really have the time? I can point our Jr. admins at RHN and they can see what they need.
Tell me about it. I've just got done blocking about 30 or so random first names@mydomain as well.
I've decided that I'm going to go back through my emails and see which addys I've actually used and start blocking the rest. Worst part is that my personal email is using just my first name which is as common as sand in the Sahara.
I hate having to register a new email wit my server just for a specific website but that's what it's come to I guess.
Maybe I can use a creative regex that always gets through and prepend that to the website name.
Anyone have any nifty email generation utilities that create a hash of date and time along with website the email is used at to create throwaways?
I got this bag for Christmas a few years ago and it's performed like a champ. I have to be careful not to overload it though. The bag won't break but my back will.
The best part is the extra protective case for the laptop. The strap is wide and comfortable. I've made many flights with this guy.
Because the patch won't take effect and can possibly break something that might not already be loaded into memory. The patching process is minimal to the reboot process. The KB fix that MS posted that fixes all BLAST variants is 300Kish and is installed very quickly. Problem is that if for some reason the RPC services get reloaded into mory, they won't work properly without a reboot.
I'm guessing most customers who have server farms could handle two out of ten machines being patched and rebooted at a time though.
If it makes you feel any better, I bought my copy of Jag on September 13th. I just got off the phone with a very pleasant supervisor at the apple store who told me to wait it out and they might provide a nice upgrade path for some people. If not, I'll just buy it anyway but to shell out 129.97 twice so quickly is not my idea of good money management skills;)
I actually asked her what those software upgrade coupons were for and she said nothing really;)
I would tend to agree but when Bellsouth farms out telemarketing calls to 5 different companies and each one says that it takes 6 months to get off the list, I for one can't help but be irate.
What has always bothered me about this argument is that it doesn't stand up to rational thought. It's not about WHEN they call or HOW OFTEN they call you. I mean couldn't the Mob have used this same argument in defense of its practices? Drug dealers too for that matter.
I heard it best the other day from Boortz...the DNC registry is like a gigantic "No Trespassing" sign. I'd love to hear someone try to argue the telemarketer'a argument in court if he were to trespass on my property.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought this. First time I heard about Harry Potter, I could have sworn I read the story before;)
Not so much a question as a thank you.
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Neil, A friend of ours mentioned this to you at a book signing in California for "American Gods" when it came out but I doubt you'll remember.
I met my fiancee on a Yahoo Group about your work. So really I owe something very special to you. Expect your publicist to be forwarding you an invitation for our wedding next summer!
I just wanted to say thank you for writing some wonderful stuff that in its own twisted way brought two people together.
By the way, the new Sandman material is GREAT. It's good to get a little more "Destruction" in the mix. I'm sure the slashdot comment in his story was all a pretext to getting a coveted interview spot here.
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KDE supports this? I haven't been able to find any information on this searching google.
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Sad thing is...I don't think anyone will get this post.
Brilliant sir.
It's funny. I read this line and wondered to myself...if it is having such a terrible effect on the IT industry, why the hell did my company just spend alomst 1 million dollars on IBM software (websphere, db2, tivoli) and IBM hardware for our new datacenter all running on RedHat Enterprise Linux which we also PURCHASED?
Surely we can't be alone in that regard?
I'd have to agree. We've just recently decided to no longer purchase linksys equipment based on, not only the waulity, but the behaviour of Linksys in regards to product releases.
I wrote a little entry about it on my website. Linksys has lost my vote.
Funny you should mention that. As I've said before, the majority of slashdotters have probably never heard the words "supported configuration".
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;)
We actually have several gentoo boxes in production and our new enterprise production application will be running partly on Gentoo (CUPS for check printing - business rules you know) and one box running Firebird for data warehousing. The rest are a mix of RHAS3/2.1 depending on the program product installed (WAS/DB2/Tivoli)
I'm having to bring my admin team up to speed on Gentoo so I can actually take a vacation but considering we keep our own rsync server with buildpackages and use bindist, it aint no biggie
Having said that, our stores are being migrated to Fedora Core 1 with our own yum server and a few build hosts in the office for testing the RPMS. The end user doesn't see it unless it passes our build hosts and causes ZERO downtime. The only exception of course is kernel security fixes. Gotta reboot for those
In all fairness, if you read the bible as a whole, the new and old testaments do not contradict each other.
You have to understand that the New Testament is the fulfilling of the prophecies in the Old Testament. The key is in the name "Testament".
The whole point of the New Testament was to show that man needed a once and for all sacrifice because he could never live up to the standard that God required to get eternale life. That's the point of the Messiah.
You really need to view the New Testament through the eyes of the Hebrew Faith for it to make sense.
Having said that, I don't care either way what someone believes or if it's even true but at least try to view it as a whole work and not piecemeal as so many people like to do to discredit it.
There ARE contradictions between the two but only when you read one part at a time.
Then again it could be, in the words of Bill Hicks, that "God was fuckin' with ya!'
You've obviously, as most of slashdot it seems, have never heard the two words "supported configuration".
Let me explain. We're running a DB2/WAS installation. We bought all the hardware from IBM down to the IBM branded FC cards and FC switches. We then purchased several RHAS2.1 licenses for this installation.
Why? Enterprise. Pure and simple. We need immediate support from IBM and they have a very specific list of "supported configurations". Deviate and they won't touch you.
RedHat backporting fixes has only been a problem when certain drivers check for a SPECIFIC subrelease in the kernel. This happened with the IBM 3582 LTO robot we have.
RedHat AS2.1 uses kernel 2.4.9 but is constantly backporting security fixes. They rev the kernel RPMS like so:
2.4.9-e25summit, 2.4.9-e38summit and so on. Most driver vendors I've worked with check for RHAS 2.1 running kernel 2.4.9 and leave it at that. For some reason the blasted tape library drive checked for a specific rev number. I can't even download the kernel from RedHat or anywhere on the web that the stupid developer built the kernel against. At some point I was forced to cpio the rpm and force load the tape library driver just to get the damn thing loaded. Guess what? As I expected it worked just fine.
RedHat and SuSe and the gangs that backport do it for a very good reason. They have a kernel that hardware vendors build against. The backports go through some SERIOUS review to make sure they don't break anything existing. This also keeps the kernel version number they check for the same.
Actually I never thought about that aspect - the legality. In fact I never knew that.
Good point.
That's like saying Boeing made it possible for 9/11 because of the plane they built.
;) Damn you Godwin!
It's true on the service but the causality is wrong.
Do you still beat your wife? Yes or No?
It's one of those kinds of statements.
Either way, thanks for killing a good thread by brining Nazi's into the discussion
Well I can't speak for the iSeries and pSeries specifically but we went full xSeries for our new deployment because of IBM support. The biggest in our bunch are two x445 boxes. We may turn around and buy two more and and connect them to the existing ones to get the 16 CPU max on each box. Cost wise, these boxes weren't cheap but the support from IBM and the quality of hardware is unrivaled.
We also have numerous x335 pizza boxes that we can buy all day long and rack up because the are so cheap.
Our web and mail infrastructure runs on x345 boxes.
Everyone of these guys is running either RHAS3 or Gentoo.
I've become a whore for IBM lately. The hardware is rock solid and the support I've gotten from IBM has been stellar.
We may have to move up to i or z if we grow out of those 445s but if we do, we get to keep our same environment thanks to IBM's investment in Linux on the mainframe.
I think that's the real reason people buy it with that.
FYI if you want to see pictures of the current datacenter we're building out, Check it out
"Do not immerse head in spackle."
I shit you not.
Or the one every techie has seen:
"This is not candy. Do not eat silica"
I won't disagree with that. I think it wasn't even that nefarious. I don't know how many people (other than you and I) even know that Office can actually be purchased piecemeal. I don't think you'll deny that MS doesn't like to advance that fact.
All in all, I don't think it was the author being vague about the fact that Outlook can be purchased alone so much as the author not even knowing.
How many people do you know run a previous version of Office with a newer version of Outlook. Read his statement again. Upgrading "OFFICE" not just "OUTLOOK".
Actually our company has taken the same route. We bought RHAS to be "supported" by IBM for our WAS/DB2 application. The other part of the application (CUPS print servers) are running gentoo. All of the rest of our internal company servers are running gentoo as well.
Support is really the key here. We bought the lowend support contract from RedHat though because there isn't much that we can't resolve that we would need a RedHat support call but with DB2 and WAS, don't even think about calling IBM unless your OS is listed on the supported page.
Sometimes it makes me wonder what these people who are bitching actually do for a living. RedHat earned our money because our program products are supported on it and we get uncontested support from IBM in those cases. I think that more than makes up for the cost of the 7 copies we bought.
The other aspect of RHEL is rhn. If you haven't managed a group of servers via RHN, you don't know what you're missing. Oh sure, you could hack out some perl scripts to do the same thing but do you really have the time? I can point our Jr. admins at RHN and they can see what they need.
Tell me about it. I've just got done blocking about 30 or so random first names@mydomain as well.
I've decided that I'm going to go back through my emails and see which addys I've actually used and start blocking the rest. Worst part is that my personal email is using just my first name which is as common as sand in the Sahara.
I hate having to register a new email wit my server just for a specific website but that's what it's come to I guess.
Maybe I can use a creative regex that always gets through and prepend that to the website name.
Anyone have any nifty email generation utilities that create a hash of date and time along with website the email is used at to create throwaways?
Yakov Rehkter, hmmm?
;)
Now I have a name to match my blinding hatred of all things MPLS
Actually I don't hate it. Just a bit of pain. Frame size and all that.
I got this bag for Christmas a few years ago and it's performed like a champ. I have to be careful not to overload it though. The bag won't break but my back will.
The best part is the extra protective case for the laptop. The strap is wide and comfortable. I've made many flights with this guy.
Because the patch won't take effect and can possibly break something that might not already be loaded into memory. The patching process is minimal to the reboot process. The KB fix that MS posted that fixes all BLAST variants is 300Kish and is installed very quickly. Problem is that if for some reason the RPC services get reloaded into mory, they won't work properly without a reboot.
I'm guessing most customers who have server farms could handle two out of ten machines being patched and rebooted at a time though.
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If it makes you feel any better, I bought my copy of Jag on September 13th. I just got off the phone with a very pleasant supervisor at the apple store who told me to wait it out and they might provide a nice upgrade path for some people. If not, I'll just buy it anyway but to shell out 129.97 twice so quickly is not my idea of good money management skills ;)
;)
I actually asked her what those software upgrade coupons were for and she said nothing really
I would tend to agree but when Bellsouth farms out telemarketing calls to 5 different companies and each one says that it takes 6 months to get off the list, I for one can't help but be irate.
What has always bothered me about this argument is that it doesn't stand up to rational thought. It's not about WHEN they call or HOW OFTEN they call you. I mean couldn't the Mob have used this same argument in defense of its practices? Drug dealers too for that matter.
I heard it best the other day from Boortz...the DNC registry is like a gigantic "No Trespassing" sign. I'd love to hear someone try to argue the telemarketer'a argument in court if he were to trespass on my property.
I'm running it on my g4 cube and haven't had any problems yet either. A buddy at the office had to reinstall 10.2.6 on his G3 Blue and White though.
The only odd problem I've really had is Lux crashing on me for no reason.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who thought this. First time I heard about Harry Potter, I could have sworn I read the story before ;)
Neil,
A friend of ours mentioned this to you at a book signing in California for "American Gods" when it came out but I doubt you'll remember.
I met my fiancee on a Yahoo Group about your work. So really I owe something very special to you. Expect your publicist to be forwarding you an invitation for our wedding next summer!
I just wanted to say thank you for writing some wonderful stuff that in its own twisted way brought two people together.
By the way, the new Sandman material is GREAT. It's good to get a little more "Destruction" in the mix. I'm sure the slashdot comment in his story was all a pretext to getting a coveted interview spot here.
KDE supports this? I haven't been able to find any information on this searching google.
What's the syntax of the file?