He can tell me who bought this legislation and how they are directly benefiting from it!
Hypothetical Scenario: Does Disney not need to buy personal information (maybe they collect enough on their own?), so they are going to use it to prevent others from access to such information to prevent them from competing?
I don't claim to know in anyway the above is true, but it would seem possible. I'm certainly not stupid enough to believe that after Mister Hollings publically demonstrates what a whore he is with his so-called Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act that he's suddenly interested in protecting the rights of the people of the United States.
If I were in Congress I'd vote against this Bill based on who's the owner of the rock it crawled out from under.
Given the improvements since the last CVS I tried
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Given the improvements since the last CVS I tried, I think it may be time to get a subscription. Now I just need to figure out if I should be using ALSA or OSS on my CMedia 8738 onboard sound. (It's a Soyo Dragon+, so there's a bunch of quality stuff onboard.)
I seem to recall that scientists aren't exactly sure how aspirin works either. I have no problem using it, and I also don't see a reason people can't just go the hell to bed when they are tired.
I'd love to know why it is illegal to tape a police officier harrass you on a random traffic stop, yet they can tape you without your permission. Oh, I forgot police are above the law again, sorry.
"Open architecture"? How many other "open architectures" are only and will only be manufactured by one company (Intel)? Itanium is as closed as they come. I've gottta go out now, and buy that "Open Windows" Microsoft just started selling.
McKinley isn't out yet, and Madison is its successor. Why don't they just build it using Pentium 8s and Athlon XP 52s?
Sure, mod me a troll for not eating up the nonsensical marketing garbage that is being passed off as a news story. Did HP start advertising on/.?
Conflict of Interest I can't help but imagine, that if no one can see the code to viruses and see how they work that it will greatly reduce the availability of individuals knowledgeable and skilled enough to make antivirus programs. Of course if I worked for Symantec, like the author, this probably wouldn't bother me.
Slippery Slope I also have a problem with criminalizing the distribution of source code that can be put to a bad use. I don't approve of distributing viral binaries, but if they are clearly marked as such why shouldn't someone be able to distribute them to one who would willingly receive them?
If we start saying that only some code can be distributed, we start down the path (I guess it should be "further down the path" in actuality; see DeCSS) of government sanctioned censoring of any code that is "bad", "malicious", or "dangerous." Expect those to be no more narrowly defined in legislation than the words in quotes above.
Conclusion Legislators are tech-dumb idiots, and trusting them to make intelligient or reasonable legislation on software code is as stupid as trusting a pyromaniac with three gallons of gasoline and matches. They can only make things worse than the now, arguably, are.
That sounds to me, like it'll have lots of drivers for PDAs and Digital Cameras and just auto-mount them as if they were a HDD. Of course the site is/.'ed so I can't read the story, but I hope MS found something else to add other than just that.
1) It places burdens on all software authors even those whose software can't be used to pirate copyrighted material. Including OSS authors who are not compensated for their work.
2) Highschool Student programmers are required to comply with gov't mandated copy protection standards in the "digital device" Hello World! programs they write for Intro to Programming. Isn't there something wrong with that?
3) It creates a new barrier to companies and individuals entering the electronics hardware industry.
4) It will create a very high barrier to individuals who create and often distribute their own digital works. Under the CBDTPA anyone who wants to produce needs to acquire a digital watermark. There are people who do so.
5) The CBDTPA does away entirely with First Sale Doctrine and Fair Use.
a) It is not possible to transfer all copies of a secured media file to another' computer. Programs that would allow doing so are illegal under the DMCA (17 U.S.C. 1201). It is not possible to give away an legally purchased file. First Sale is dead.
b) Future innovations like portable MP3 players will not be possible as it will not be possible to rip an MP3 without Recording Industry pre-approval. (The RIAA sued Diamond over their Rio portable MP3 Player and lost, because people have a right to space-shift music they purchase)
6) Large amounts of existing legal digital media will be unplayable on CBDTPA hardware. Compliant hardware won't be able to tell the difference between a home movie of a birthday party and a theatre capture of Blackhawk Down.
7) It will make libraries of our world's history and culture available only on a pay-per-use basis.
8) It is wholly unnecessary. After all, with the passage of the DMCA in 1998 there was a flood of digital music and movies for sale on the Internet and a rush by American households to get Broadband Internet. What, you say that the RIAA continued to litigate all potential competitors out of existence and still does not sell digital music? Well, there is the "PressPlay" service, that's digital music! Oh, you mean they are just running a online music leasing service you have to keep paying for or lose all your music you downloaded from it? I guess they really haven't done anything but kill off competitors in the four, going on five, years since the "DMCA made the Internet safe". It will be a really great idea if we just keep believing the RIAA and MPAA thugs who cry they are being driven out of business by Internet piracy.
P.S. I can't help but wonder if so few Americans have broadband and it is for some reason in the Federal Gov't job description to promote it, how is Internet piracy driving the Studios out of business?
"If it ain't broke don't fix it" That idea is still new to some people I guess. That, and it would make OSS less attractive to businesses that don't want downtime, and don't want their secured software updating itself to a potentially unsecure new version. "But what if a security hole is found!" Well, that's what a Network Administrator is supposed to be aware of. There's no cure for people who don't know what they are doing.
Note to slashdot editors: Don't accept story submissions from Microsoft staffers.
Is that there aren't lots of guns in the UK and many other places around the world.
Unless you want to somehow assure that all the violent criminals in the US are going to have their guns taken away and be unable to get new ones, you are expecting people who have no intention of hurting other people give up their guns? That is simply ridiculous.
P.S. Most people don't kill other people for fun. Those that do, probably won't care if you say guns are illegal.
P.S. #2 Your USDOJ homocide numbers: Did a greater portion of the population have firearms in 1950 or 1993?
Dear Editor,
With regard to the DMCA and DeCSS, I must say I disagree with your analysis. The DeCSS source code which has been prohibited from being distributed doesn't do anything. It is a few text files named '.cpp' and '.h'. It describes a process in a language appreciable to computer scientists how CSS is decrypted. A computer scientist learning about encryption would derive infinitely more value from DeCSS than a garage DVD counterfeiter.
DeCSS isn't useful in pirating DVD movies. To copy a DVD movie, if the first encrypted byte is 11001010 then, a pirated copy needs to contain exactly 11001010, not whatever that might be decrypted as.
DeCSS should in fact be legal under the DMCA. (As mentioned above, it isn't useful in pirating movies; there is no reason to decrypt them: just copy bit-for-bit.)
See Title 17 Section 1201 (f)(3):
The information acquired through the acts permitted under paragraph (1), and the means permitted under paragraph (2), may be made available to others if the person referred to in paragraph (1) or (2), as the case may be, provides such information or means solely for the purpose of enabling interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs, and to the extent that doing so does not constitute infringement under this title or violate applicable law other than this section.
It should be legal to play DVDs on a GPL operating system like Linux. Using the DeCSS source code, it is possible to do so. Of course, the movie studios would be pissed off if they didn't get to sell a $100K license. Perhaps that is what this is really about, money and control not copyright violations.
The DMCA effectively kills Fair Use. The DMCA says that copy protections can't be circumvented regardless of why. That effectively makes circumventing a copy protection with no intention of infringing on copyright illegal. If you read the Encryption Research exemption, it says that researchers must get permission to see if encryption protecting copyrighted materials is secure. Have independent researchers ever been required to get permission from patent holders to conduct a study on whether or not a drug is safe?
The SSSCA/CBDTPA goes even further in this deranged direction, making it illegal to be capable of committing copyright infringement. Certainly, copyright infringement isn't good, but most people in prison are there for more dangerous crimes that threaten a much larger portion of society. Like murder or rape for instance. If Congress has been empowered by the Constitution to make it illegal to be capable of committing a crime, why haven't they? Probably, because there is nothing criminal in capacity. Intent and actions can be criminal, capacity can't.
As several other people mentioned, the often forgotten 9th Amendment states that the Bill of Rights is not a complete list of the People's or States' rights.
There is also what the Constitution does not say. It says Congress can grant authors and inventors the exclusive right to their writings and inventions for a limited time. It doesn't say Congress can grant authors and inventors absolute control over their writings and inventions forever.
In case someone missed it, the MPAA now has control over on what player you can watch that DVD you purchased for all eternity. It'll be illegal to rip and encode your DVD collection to MPEG-46 two hundred years from now under the DMCA because DVD is poorly encrypted with CSS.
I love it how people piss and moan about the DMCA/SSSCA/CBDTPA and then howl with delight and help subsidize it when something neat looking comes along. Grow a backbone and vote with your feet people! Don't buy CDs from the maggots in the RIAA, and don't buy DVDs and Disney games from the scum in the MPAA/Disney.
Oh, but I'm a troll no doubt for not gobbling up everything those enemies of freedom toss to me.
And it basically just sounded a lot like a very smart guy bashing Microsoft.
I personally doubt.Net could completely lack any real redeeming qualities or there wouldn't be projects like Mono attempting to provide a *NIX platform compatible Common Runtime.
In the same way that if Java was horrible no one would have made third-party JVMs, like Kaffee (sp?).
But, that's just me I could be wrong (and wouldn't that be tragic?)
ISPs should be providing infrastructure. Leave the software to the users. Save money on providing and supporting software and spend it on paying those support people enough to actually know what they are doing when customers call because something isn't working.
If you really need to distribute software, then share those if/else click through support files that the tech support people are [poorly] using. Of course, I may just be bitter having used AOL's and Comcast's "support" services.
but I installed Windows 98 this week (don't ask) and it said during the install it was the most stable and best performing version of windows ever, when NT4 was clearly better...
That's alright, so did I! I ditched them back in '98, cheap poor service providing bastards. I never spent more time dialing up than I did connected before I used AOL.
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He can tell me who bought this legislation and how they are directly benefiting from it!
Hypothetical Scenario: Does Disney not need to buy personal information (maybe they collect enough on their own?), so they are going to use it to prevent others from access to such information to prevent them from competing?
I don't claim to know in anyway the above is true, but it would seem possible. I'm certainly not stupid enough to believe that after Mister Hollings publically demonstrates what a whore he is with his so-called Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act that he's suddenly interested in protecting the rights of the people of the United States.
If I were in Congress I'd vote against this Bill based on who's the owner of the rock it crawled out from under.
Given the improvements since the last CVS I tried, I think it may be time to get a subscription. Now I just need to figure out if I should be using ALSA or OSS on my CMedia 8738 onboard sound. (It's a Soyo Dragon+, so there's a bunch of quality stuff onboard.)
I seem to recall that scientists aren't exactly sure how aspirin works either. I have no problem using it, and I also don't see a reason people can't just go the hell to bed when they are tired.
I'd love to know why it is illegal to tape a police officier harrass you on a random traffic stop, yet they can tape you without your permission. Oh, I forgot police are above the law again, sorry.
"Open architecture"? How many other "open architectures" are only and will only be manufactured by one company (Intel)? Itanium is as closed as they come. I've gottta go out now, and buy that "Open Windows" Microsoft just started selling.
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McKinley isn't out yet, and Madison is its successor. Why don't they just build it using Pentium 8s and Athlon XP 52s?
Sure, mod me a troll for not eating up the nonsensical marketing garbage that is being passed off as a news story. Did HP start advertising on
Have you not upgraded to Ext3 or are you running Windows 9x?
Doesn't this mean all Linux will do on the corporate and home desktop is be installed over and over and over and-- you get the idea?
Conflict of Interest
I can't help but imagine, that if no one can see the code to viruses and see how they work that it will greatly reduce the availability of individuals knowledgeable and skilled enough to make antivirus programs. Of course if I worked for Symantec, like the author, this probably wouldn't bother me.
Slippery Slope
I also have a problem with criminalizing the distribution of source code that can be put to a bad use. I don't approve of distributing viral binaries, but if they are clearly marked as such why shouldn't someone be able to distribute them to one who would willingly receive them?
If we start saying that only some code can be distributed, we start down the path (I guess it should be "further down the path" in actuality; see DeCSS) of government sanctioned censoring of any code that is "bad", "malicious", or "dangerous." Expect those to be no more narrowly defined in legislation than the words in quotes above.
Conclusion
Legislators are tech-dumb idiots, and trusting them to make intelligient or reasonable legislation on software code is as stupid as trusting a pyromaniac with three gallons of gasoline and matches. They can only make things worse than the now, arguably, are.
That sounds to me, like it'll have lots of drivers for PDAs and Digital Cameras and just auto-mount them as if they were a HDD. Of course the site is /.'ed so I can't read the story, but I hope MS found something else to add other than just that.
because this never went to court.
But I'm picking up to after work!
/dies
I'm not sure what happened, but my coworker just screamed "the price" and died in his cubicle?
and more like an XML Web service. That means someone could fairly easily make a page that'll let you search google from your cellphone :)
2) Highschool Student programmers are required to comply with gov't mandated copy protection standards in the "digital device" Hello World! programs they write for Intro to Programming. Isn't there something wrong with that?
3) It creates a new barrier to companies and individuals entering the electronics hardware industry.
4) It will create a very high barrier to individuals who create and often distribute their own digital works. Under the CBDTPA anyone who wants to produce needs to acquire a digital watermark. There are people who do so.
5) The CBDTPA does away entirely with First Sale Doctrine and Fair Use.
6) Large amounts of existing legal digital media will be unplayable on CBDTPA hardware. Compliant hardware won't be able to tell the difference between a home movie of a birthday party and a theatre capture of Blackhawk Down.
7) It will make libraries of our world's history and culture available only on a pay-per-use basis.
8) It is wholly unnecessary. After all, with the passage of the DMCA in 1998 there was a flood of digital music and movies for sale on the Internet and a rush by American households to get Broadband Internet.
What, you say that the RIAA continued to litigate all potential competitors out of existence and still does not sell digital music?
Well, there is the "PressPlay" service, that's digital music!
Oh, you mean they are just running a online music leasing service you have to keep paying for or lose all your music you downloaded from it?
I guess they really haven't done anything but kill off competitors in the four, going on five, years since the "DMCA made the Internet safe". It will be a really great idea if we just keep believing the RIAA and MPAA thugs who cry they are being driven out of business by Internet piracy.
P.S. I can't help but wonder if so few Americans have broadband and it is for some reason in the Federal Gov't job description to promote it, how is Internet piracy driving the Studios out of business?
"If it ain't broke don't fix it"
That idea is still new to some people I guess.
That, and it would make OSS less attractive to businesses that don't want downtime, and don't want their secured software updating itself to a potentially unsecure new version. "But what if a security hole is found!" Well, that's what a Network Administrator is supposed to be aware of. There's no cure for people who don't know what they are doing.
Note to slashdot editors: Don't accept story submissions from Microsoft staffers.
Is that there aren't lots of guns in the UK and many other places around the world.
Unless you want to somehow assure that all the violent criminals in the US are going to have their guns taken away and be unable to get new ones, you are expecting people who have no intention of hurting other people give up their guns? That is simply ridiculous.
P.S. Most people don't kill other people for fun. Those that do, probably won't care if you say guns are illegal.
P.S. #2 Your USDOJ homocide numbers: Did a greater portion of the population have firearms in 1950 or 1993?
With regard to the DMCA and DeCSS, I must say I disagree with your analysis. The DeCSS source code which has been prohibited from being distributed doesn't do anything. It is a few text files named '.cpp' and '.h'. It describes a process in a language appreciable to computer scientists how CSS is decrypted. A computer scientist learning about encryption would derive infinitely more value from DeCSS than a garage DVD counterfeiter.
DeCSS isn't useful in pirating DVD movies. To copy a DVD movie, if the first encrypted byte is 11001010 then, a pirated copy needs to contain exactly 11001010, not whatever that might be decrypted as.
DeCSS should in fact be legal under the DMCA. (As mentioned above, it isn't useful in pirating movies; there is no reason to decrypt them: just copy bit-for-bit.)
See Title 17 Section 1201 (f)(3):
It should be legal to play DVDs on a GPL operating system like Linux. Using the DeCSS source code, it is possible to do so. Of course, the movie studios would be pissed off if they didn't get to sell a $100K license. Perhaps that is what this is really about, money and control not copyright violations.
The DMCA effectively kills Fair Use. The DMCA says that copy protections can't be circumvented regardless of why. That effectively makes circumventing a copy protection with no intention of infringing on copyright illegal. If you read the Encryption Research exemption, it says that researchers must get permission to see if encryption protecting copyrighted materials is secure. Have independent researchers ever been required to get permission from patent holders to conduct a study on whether or not a drug is safe?
The SSSCA/CBDTPA goes even further in this deranged direction, making it illegal to be capable of committing copyright infringement. Certainly, copyright infringement isn't good, but most people in prison are there for more dangerous crimes that threaten a much larger portion of society. Like murder or rape for instance. If Congress has been empowered by the Constitution to make it illegal to be capable of committing a crime, why haven't they? Probably, because there is nothing criminal in capacity. Intent and actions can be criminal, capacity can't.
Just my two cents.
Sincerely,
Paul
As several other people mentioned, the often forgotten 9th Amendment states that the Bill of Rights is not a complete list of the People's or States' rights.
There is also what the Constitution does not say. It says Congress can grant authors and inventors the exclusive right to their writings and inventions for a limited time. It doesn't say Congress can grant authors and inventors absolute control over their writings and inventions forever.
In case someone missed it, the MPAA now has control over on what player you can watch that DVD you purchased for all eternity. It'll be illegal to rip and encode your DVD collection to MPEG-46 two hundred years from now under the DMCA because DVD is poorly encrypted with CSS.
Is that absurd to anyone else?
I love it how people piss and moan about the DMCA/SSSCA/CBDTPA and then howl with delight and help subsidize it when something neat looking comes along. Grow a backbone and vote with your feet people! Don't buy CDs from the maggots in the RIAA, and don't buy DVDs and Disney games from the scum in the MPAA/Disney.
Oh, but I'm a troll no doubt for not gobbling up everything those enemies of freedom toss to me.
And it basically just sounded a lot like a very smart guy bashing Microsoft.
.Net could completely lack any real redeeming qualities or there wouldn't be projects like Mono attempting to provide a *NIX platform compatible Common Runtime.
I personally doubt
In the same way that if Java was horrible no one would have made third-party JVMs, like Kaffee (sp?).
But, that's just me I could be wrong (and wouldn't that be tragic?)
ISPs should be providing infrastructure. Leave the software to the users. Save money on providing and supporting software and spend it on paying those support people enough to actually know what they are doing when customers call because something isn't working.
If you really need to distribute software, then share those if/else click through support files that the tech support people are [poorly] using. Of course, I may just be bitter having used AOL's and Comcast's "support" services.
My only problem getting office to run with Wine in the past was that it would not install outside of Windows. Has that been fixed in this release?
but I installed Windows 98 this week (don't ask) and it said during the install it was the most stable and best performing version of windows ever, when NT4 was clearly better...
That's alright, so did I! I ditched them back in '98, cheap poor service providing bastards. I never spent more time dialing up than I did connected before I used AOL.
Crazy XBox fans already have done this. They take a PS2, put in GTA3, and smash it to bits with a hammer. Distributed all over!
This is the most absurd bill I've ever had the misfortune of reading. It is ludicrously broad in scope and completely unconstitutional in nature.
This thing would require my TI pocket calculator that has an M+ key on it to have copy protection built in.
But I'd still be 'granted permission' to make crippled timeshifting copies, whoop-dee-fscking-doo!