The myth among anti-media geeks is that CDs from Britney Spears and Mariah Carey are put out by Evil Money Grubbing Corporations, while music from Chemical Brothers and Radiohead is put out by Independent Freedom Loving Hippies.
Why would freedom loving hippies put out commercial music like the chemmical brothers or radiohead??
This in fact goes right against your argument - what YOU think of as underground music is actually REALLY mainstream...
Its common knowledge that Graham Hancock thinks this - however the argument against it is fairly convincing and the mainstream DOES NOT ACCEPT this theory at all.
In fact if you have considered Grahams argument closely I doubt you would believe it - there are some fairly serious "kludges" in it even for the casual observer
Its not quite the same 'cos I have no easy way of translating into Esperanto - on the other hand a word user can save in HTML or Plain text at the touch of a key.
It would be a huge advantage if I could save my files in other languages for people.
If you can't read english and only read esperanto (a direct parallel with sending a word document to someone who doesn't have word) then I am wasting my time and theirs.
You only have to pay for Adobe's tools to make PDF - you are free to make them (and read them) yourself - I know that Ghostscript handles PDF and that there are other linux tools to make it.
Although the format is proprietry it is well documented - I wrote a PDF report generator as part of an application a few years back - all the info you need is there for free.
Why bother sending the document at all with that attitude.
Surely if you are sending a document you want other people to read it - therefore you should make it easy for them to do. No one (not even the iconoclasitc RMS) is asking you NOT to use word or even not to use word format for your own files - it is only when you want to diseminate them that you should care.
The DMCA chip so that none of the bits will talk to each other (not without issuing a law suit anyway). Naturally it will also need your credit card so that it can empty your bank account into the coffers of the huge media companies....
cynical?
me
>I will certainly no longer offer my 4,000+ mp3 >collection. Where's the reward for it?
Well - this says it all really. This ain't no socialism - not "I think music should be free" - instead its "give me what isn't mine for free".
So why should the musicians not get paid for their music then? I know the music industry is a corrupt and evil thing and must be replaced - but replacing it with a model where NO one not even the music makers make any money is NOT going to work. Don't pretend it is or that by using Napster you are somehow some cool rebel working for freedom and the future. You are just freeloaders - which is fine - the world is full of them - just stop moralising about it.
mark
Intriguing - when did Java fail then...all thoses companies investing in Java must all be wrong. The prevelance of Java in new devices is just plain stupidity. You had better start a campaign and let the world know - otherwise people will keep using it.
If there is one thing that the UK fuel crisis made clear is that people don't care what you do to them.
This scenario benefits big corporations - ie. the people who get to say what laws should be made. Don't mistake lots of people bitching on/. for people actually doing anything. Everyday we see government and lawyers all over the world eroding our online rights. What do we do about that - talk a lot - Oh I'm scared...
Hi,
what I don't understand is why gunmakers can't be litigated against in the same way the likes of napster can.... is there some kind of precedent? and if so why doesn't it also apply for software?
Excuse my ignorance of american law but I'm based in the UK.
mark
If you read the stuff these guys are not "Breaking in" but upgrading their Tivo whatnots. This as far as I can tell only voids their warrantys. So what are you talking about?
BTW Hacker is being used here in its orignal sense. What you call hackers are really crackers.
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The myth among anti-media geeks is that CDs from Britney Spears and Mariah Carey are put out by Evil Money Grubbing Corporations, while music from Chemical Brothers and Radiohead is put out by Independent Freedom Loving Hippies.
Why would freedom loving hippies put out commercial music like the chemmical brothers or radiohead??
This in fact goes right against your argument - what YOU think of as underground music is actually REALLY mainstream...
mark
...and ignore all of them
driving in italy is not a rule based experience
"Thank God I dont have a tv!"
lawbreaker!
>Burt "Out of my mind back in 5 minutes"
you are clearly not doing it properly - I would be hoping for back in 5 hours at a minimum - back in 5 days would be MUCH better.....
With some really good acid you could make it years...
mark - avoiding writing a very boring report.
>What it does sound like is mental illness.
That was my reaction upon reading this...
mark
Common Knowledge?
Its common knowledge that Graham Hancock thinks this - however the argument against it is fairly convincing and the mainstream DOES NOT ACCEPT this theory at all.
In fact if you have considered Grahams argument closely I doubt you would believe it - there are some fairly serious "kludges" in it even for the casual observer
mark
Its not quite the same 'cos I have no easy way of translating into Esperanto - on the other hand a word user can save in HTML or Plain text at the touch of a key.
It would be a huge advantage if I could save my files in other languages for people.
If you can't read english and only read esperanto (a direct parallel with sending a word document to someone who doesn't have word) then I am wasting my time and theirs.
mark
You only have to pay for Adobe's tools to make PDF - you are free to make them (and read them) yourself - I know that Ghostscript handles PDF and that there are other linux tools to make it.
Although the format is proprietry it is well documented - I wrote a PDF report generator as part of an application a few years back - all the info you need is there for free.
mark
Why bother sending the document at all with that attitude.
Surely if you are sending a document you want other people to read it - therefore you should make it easy for them to do. No one (not even the iconoclasitc RMS) is asking you NOT to use word or even not to use word format for your own files - it is only when you want to diseminate them that you should care.
not to mention things like minskys frames and probably a lot of lisp code
mark
Aren't the ideas in this also embodied in Marvin Minskys frames though. Can't remember the date but he invented these in the 60's
mark
And maybe someone to add some content too...
How did you know that then?
Who they going to sue then - the universe. Or perhaps they are going to require licenses to use PI instead...
This article is too long - I could't read all of it...
eventually we will all get used to our music having loops of people saying
in the background. After a while we will all learn to filter it out
mark
The DMCA chip so that none of the bits will talk to each other (not without issuing a law suit anyway). Naturally it will also need your credit card so that it can empty your bank account into the coffers of the huge media companies.... cynical? me
You really have completely missed the point haven't you.
However you should refrain from inflicting your ignorance and stupidity on other people.
mark
>I will certainly no longer offer my 4,000+ mp3 >collection. Where's the reward for it? Well - this says it all really. This ain't no socialism - not "I think music should be free" - instead its "give me what isn't mine for free". So why should the musicians not get paid for their music then? I know the music industry is a corrupt and evil thing and must be replaced - but replacing it with a model where NO one not even the music makers make any money is NOT going to work. Don't pretend it is or that by using Napster you are somehow some cool rebel working for freedom and the future. You are just freeloaders - which is fine - the world is full of them - just stop moralising about it. mark
Either that or they are being swamped by lots of people "just checking". :-)
mark
Intriguing - when did Java fail then...all thoses companies investing in Java must all be wrong. The prevelance of Java in new devices is just plain stupidity. You had better start a campaign and let the world know - otherwise people will keep using it.
yes it does...(bloody americans)
If there is one thing that the UK fuel crisis made clear is that people don't care what you do to them. This scenario benefits big corporations - ie. the people who get to say what laws should be made. Don't mistake lots of people bitching on /. for people actually doing anything. Everyday we see government and lawyers all over the world eroding our online rights. What do we do about that - talk a lot - Oh I'm scared...
Hi,
what I don't understand is why gunmakers can't be litigated against in the same way the likes of napster can.... is there some kind of precedent? and if so why doesn't it also apply for software?
Excuse my ignorance of american law but I'm based in the UK.
mark
If you read the stuff these guys are not "Breaking in" but upgrading their Tivo whatnots. This as far as I can tell only voids their warrantys. So what are you talking about? BTW Hacker is being used here in its orignal sense. What you call hackers are really crackers.