Because there are still bitter Slashdotters who hate that a program that let them conveniently pirate every album under the sun was taken away and replaced with something legitimate.
Napster was good for just grabbing a random song here and there but sucked ass for getting a whole album. Each song would be encoded by a different person at different quality levels and sound levels. I'm not bitter that napster was taken away - it just meant that something better would be here that much sooner.
First it was kazaa, which had the same problem as napster in terms of downloading a whole album, but you could also get movies and software from it. It also had multi-source downloads, so everything was sure to be on your computer in the blink of an eye (supposing you had broadband of course). That was really cool.
Then along came edonkey and bittorrent. You can get anything you could ever imagine from these two programs, including.rar or.zip files of an entire album ripped from the same source, usually at high quality (192 or better). Movies, software, you name it. You want it, you can get it, and fast.
The original napster was a good first step, in fact I would say it was revolutionary because of the programs it inspired, but compared to what we have today, it doesnt hold a candle. I tried out the "new" napster and think it is well done, in fact I actually like it better than iTMS, but anything that restricts my use of media is not something I'm going to pay for.
I can barely express how much I loathe [Lotus Notes]. As an email system, it sucks. As a document database it sucks. The web interface sucks. Yet for some unknown and ill-conceived reason, the IT people at work picked it to run our internal intranet. I can only assume that someone either got a hell of an all-expenses-paid, 6 month vacation to a tropical destination out of it, got a large infusion of free cash, or were terminally brain-damaged when they picked this software.
You hit the nail on the head right there. Currently I work at one of the Kroger offices, but used to work at the Kroger helpdesk, doing computer and POS tech support. If you didn't know, Kroger is a huge grocery chain that has bought out many other chains throughout the country, currently operating a total of close to 3000 stores nationwide. There are many, many offices throughout the country for all of these stores, and they all had their own email systems, as they were all originaly seperate companies.
So Kroger decides that everyone should be moved over to the same system, for consistency's sake. I can understand that. That makes sense. Then it was announced that they had decided on Lotus Notes....
Ok, so tech support sucks. Lotus notes really sucks. Now combine the two together. I had to do tech support for Lotus Notes R5. Can you imagine??? Just put yourself in my shoes. I think at some point, everyone there considered suicide.
What makes me crack up is the reasons you listed for your company choosing Lotus Notes. Those are the exact same reasons we used to joke about at the helpdesk! Well we had one other one also... someone must have gotten one hell of a blow job...
Lotus Notes is, without a doubt, the absolute worst program I have ever used. EVER. It cannot do anything right. The interface is horrible. Everything is ugly and poorly designed. It's slower than molasses uphill in January. It eats up nearly all of my paultry 128MB RAM on this crappy computer I have to use, so everything else pages out (Fun!). There is not one good thing about it. I always hear people bitching about it. It's always giving errors when trying to send email. Luckily I used to support it so I know how to fix most of them... EG, "Invalid Document" when trying to send an email. Gee, thanks Lotus, that error message is really descriptive of what's wrong. (If you get this message, you have to delete Cache.DSK and mdircat.nsf in C:\Data\LotusNotes, assuming a default installation. Then re-open Lotus and it will rebuild these files).
Now I know lots of people despise Microsoft, but Kroger has MS Office deployed throughout their business. MS Office comes with Outlook. Outlook may not be the best solution ever, but at least the damn thing works. Throw up an exchange server is each office, and we're all set. No, instead they probably spent tens of millions of dollars to deploy Lotus on all of our workstations, and not one single person likes it. Since lots of people probably use Outlook or Outlook Express at home, this would have made sense, beacuse nearly everyone is familiar with it.
Anyways this rant has gone on long enough... And just in case you didn't realize it yet, I fucking hate Lotus Notes:)
Speaking for myself, any additional "Gee Whizzery" would at best distract me from your take-home point -- that your network is really fast. At worst, it would make me wonder why you were trying to distract me, and what you might be hiding, glossing over, or leaving for the fine print.
You are obviously not the type of person who would be sitting in on this type of presentation. Gee Whiz Factor (tm) is for stupid clueless managers (or anyone in charge, 99% of the time they will be stupid) who have no idea what anything means, but wow! look at that thing go! 87324 Libraries of Congress in 3 milliseconds! SOLD!
That wouldn't impress *me* either, but I actually consider myself somewhat smart and clued in. People who would be responsible for purchasing this type of thing, generally are not smart. They are corporate tools who got into their current position by kissing ass.
Yes, thank you very much:) But it took me 5 months to find my current job after quiting in disgust of my previous one. That's just not cool. I love Portland, it's a great place, but man I just don't get what's happened to the job market around here.
I'm glad you pointed out that it was september 11 of 2001. Why, if you hadn't said that, I would have had no idea what you were referring to. I would have thought it was just any old september 11.
But if Portland is finally really becoming an IT hotbed ("Silicon Forest," and all that), I'd gladly move back.
In case you haven't heard, here in Portland we have the nation's highest unemployment rate, nearly nine flipping percent. We've been like this for a while and it's not getting any better. I would not recommend anyone move here, particularly if you are in the IT field. That's been hit real hard, no matter what any "professionals" say otherwise.
I mean why the F cant they make just a plain, normal looking phone anymore? Even something like this that has very LIMITED and SIMPLE features, which I would be all about (I think a flashlight is an awesome idea), it still has to look like it's from the year 2057. Seems to be quite a trend these days with cars also. I dont think I'll ever buy a car made after the year 2002.
It is not Adobe's job to enforce the law. That would be the secret service -- at least when it comes to counterfeit money. This is just plain old bullshit.
It's only closed to those who don't know about P2P apps, IRC, FTP, WWW, E-mail, CDR/DVDR, and any other method of transferring data... and the easiest way to gain entry is to type something like "/join #warez950". As far as the players, they don't come and go, they just change their names and keep doing what they're doing. I'm sorry, but how silly is this article?
I'm sorry, but how silly are you? "The scene" is not referring to downloading movies from kazaa or edonkey, it's about the people who allow this to happen, eg pirate the goods and distribute them. The article was slightly on the "dumbed down for joe public" side, but had more insight than I thought it would.
There's no indication in the program of being "connected" nor is there a connect command, and searching results in nothing.
If you look at the "MUTE" file in the folder, apparently it's an error log. Here's what mine says:
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:52 1969 (937 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to add a new connection. L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:52 1969 (937 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to connect to katcher.2y.net:4900 L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (296 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Timed out connecting to host. L2 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (296 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Connection failed to katcher.2y.net:4900 L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Adding a connection failed. L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to add a new connection. L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to connect to monolith.2y.net:4900 L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Timed out connecting to host. L2 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Connection failed to monolith.2y.net:4900 L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Adding a connection failed. L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to add a new connection. L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Adding a connection failed....
So apparently katcher.2y.net:4900 is the "connect" server, or something. It's trying to connect to it every 5 seconds. I can ping it OK so.... ? Not sure whtas wrong.
[Medical] costs me 35 bucks a pay check and 3 bucks for dental...who can't afford that?
I'm sorry... is that a joke? I just about shit a brick when I read that. 35 bucks a paycheck? FOR SOMEONE WHO MAKES MINIMUM WAGE? Good God!! Who CAN afford that? (I assume you get paid every other week... every week of 35 dollars would be even worse)
That is just ridiculous that the LARGEST COMPANY IN THE FRICKING WORLD cant give its employers cheap health insurance. I work at one of the Kroger offices, theyre a huge company as well (however I do believe walmart is huger, in terms of revenue and store count). I pay LESS THAN THREE dollars a paycheck for medical! $1.50 for dental! (We get paid every week). And it's damn good coverage too!
Lots of popular movies end with a peaceful resolution at the end, or even a happy ending.
Yes, but these movies also end exactly how you expect them too. I think a lot of people were taken aback by the awkward ending in the Matrix -- the two main characters die, and neither side wins (humans vs machines). I don't care what anyone says, I swear this is why a lot of people don't like it, although I know 99% of them would never admit to such a thing. At first, I was like WTF? But then after thinking about it and seeing it again, I ended up really liking it.
Most movies are predictable, or at least have some sort of happy ending where everything is good and the guy gets the ho. This didn't have that and hence Joe Public didn't like it.
There's also the fact that this is the mvoie that everyone wanted to hate, because of Reloaded. I'll admit the second one was a bit of a disaster, until I saw the last one and realized how it all fit together. (Even then, the second was a bit long winded and had too much action and not enough plot).
Overall I can say I am very satisfied with the Matrix trilogy, something most people would never admit.
Wow nice argument.. yah what a bunch of cock suckers.... I AGREE but THE POINT is that this will result in lots more calls to cell phones. It doesnt matter if it's because they suck and should die horribly, because that does NOT change the fact that we WILL be getting more phone calls to the cellss, because they can use this argument.
I can hear a difference between a 128Kbps AAC and a FLAC
Yah, we're talking about napster here. AAC is iTunes. And actually WMA (what napster uses) is pretty damn nice quality, I think it's much better than AAC at the same KBPS. Try listening to the same song at a loud volume on a decent system from both itunes and napster. I can hear the difference clear as night and day -- WMA wins hands down and is almost as crystal clear as CD audio.
In other news iTunes is a great program.
I just thought you said AAC was crappy and you didnt get media or liner notes?
Look, apple zealot sir, napster streaming is different than iTMS streaming... Yes there are radio stations you can "tune in to", but with napster you can CREATE YOUR OWN FLIPPIN' RADIO. This is what makes it unique. You are not force fed what some dipshit in North Dakota says you should listen to. You make your own playlists and stream that. How about you try the product, or atleast read up on it a bit, before slamming it?
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Because there are still bitter Slashdotters who hate that a program that let them conveniently pirate every album under the sun was taken away and replaced with something legitimate.
.rar or .zip files of an entire album ripped from the same source, usually at high quality (192 or better). Movies, software, you name it. You want it, you can get it, and fast.
Napster was good for just grabbing a random song here and there but sucked ass for getting a whole album. Each song would be encoded by a different person at different quality levels and sound levels. I'm not bitter that napster was taken away - it just meant that something better would be here that much sooner.
First it was kazaa, which had the same problem as napster in terms of downloading a whole album, but you could also get movies and software from it. It also had multi-source downloads, so everything was sure to be on your computer in the blink of an eye (supposing you had broadband of course). That was really cool.
Then along came edonkey and bittorrent. You can get anything you could ever imagine from these two programs, including
The original napster was a good first step, in fact I would say it was revolutionary because of the programs it inspired, but compared to what we have today, it doesnt hold a candle. I tried out the "new" napster and think it is well done, in fact I actually like it better than iTMS, but anything that restricts my use of media is not something I'm going to pay for.
I can barely express how much I loathe [Lotus Notes]. As an email system, it sucks. As a document database it sucks. The web interface sucks. Yet for some unknown and ill-conceived reason, the IT people at work picked it to run our internal intranet. I can only assume that someone either got a hell of an all-expenses-paid, 6 month vacation to a tropical destination out of it, got a large infusion of free cash, or were terminally brain-damaged when they picked this software.
:)
You hit the nail on the head right there. Currently I work at one of the Kroger offices, but used to work at the Kroger helpdesk, doing computer and POS tech support. If you didn't know, Kroger is a huge grocery chain that has bought out many other chains throughout the country, currently operating a total of close to 3000 stores nationwide. There are many, many offices throughout the country for all of these stores, and they all had their own email systems, as they were all originaly seperate companies.
So Kroger decides that everyone should be moved over to the same system, for consistency's sake. I can understand that. That makes sense. Then it was announced that they had decided on Lotus Notes....
Ok, so tech support sucks. Lotus notes really sucks. Now combine the two together. I had to do tech support for Lotus Notes R5. Can you imagine??? Just put yourself in my shoes. I think at some point, everyone there considered suicide.
What makes me crack up is the reasons you listed for your company choosing Lotus Notes. Those are the exact same reasons we used to joke about at the helpdesk! Well we had one other one also... someone must have gotten one hell of a blow job...
Lotus Notes is, without a doubt, the absolute worst program I have ever used. EVER . It cannot do anything right. The interface is horrible. Everything is ugly and poorly designed. It's slower than molasses uphill in January. It eats up nearly all of my paultry 128MB RAM on this crappy computer I have to use, so everything else pages out (Fun!). There is not one good thing about it. I always hear people bitching about it. It's always giving errors when trying to send email. Luckily I used to support it so I know how to fix most of them... EG, "Invalid Document" when trying to send an email. Gee, thanks Lotus, that error message is really descriptive of what's wrong. (If you get this message, you have to delete Cache.DSK and mdircat.nsf in C:\Data\LotusNotes, assuming a default installation. Then re-open Lotus and it will rebuild these files).
Now I know lots of people despise Microsoft, but Kroger has MS Office deployed throughout their business. MS Office comes with Outlook. Outlook may not be the best solution ever, but at least the damn thing works. Throw up an exchange server is each office, and we're all set. No, instead they probably spent tens of millions of dollars to deploy Lotus on all of our workstations, and not one single person likes it. Since lots of people probably use Outlook or Outlook Express at home, this would have made sense, beacuse nearly everyone is familiar with it.
Anyways this rant has gone on long enough... And just in case you didn't realize it yet, I fucking hate Lotus Notes
That will save me like 2 cents in taxes! Totally righteous!!!
IBM and Hitachi .... Samsung and Western Digital
And Seagate -- I just bought two 160 gig baracuda's, they are excellent drives (speedy and quiet), running in RAID-1. They have a 3 year warranty
Speaking for myself, any additional "Gee Whizzery" would at best distract me from your take-home point -- that your network is really fast. At worst, it would make me wonder why you were trying to distract me, and what you might be hiding, glossing over, or leaving for the fine print.
You are obviously not the type of person who would be sitting in on this type of presentation. Gee Whiz Factor (tm) is for stupid clueless managers (or anyone in charge, 99% of the time they will be stupid) who have no idea what anything means, but wow! look at that thing go! 87324 Libraries of Congress in 3 milliseconds! SOLD!
That wouldn't impress *me* either, but I actually consider myself somewhat smart and clued in. People who would be responsible for purchasing this type of thing, generally are not smart. They are corporate tools who got into their current position by kissing ass.
Yes, thank you very much :) But it took me 5 months to find my current job after quiting in disgust of my previous one. That's just not cool. I love Portland, it's a great place, but man I just don't get what's happened to the job market around here.
I cant believe this is marked as insightful. It's times like this I wish there was a "No Shit, Sherlock (-5)" moderation option. :P
I'm glad you pointed out that it was september 11 of 2001. Why, if you hadn't said that, I would have had no idea what you were referring to. I would have thought it was just any old september 11.
But if Portland is finally really becoming an IT hotbed ("Silicon Forest," and all that), I'd gladly move back.
In case you haven't heard, here in Portland we have the nation's highest unemployment rate, nearly nine flipping percent. We've been like this for a while and it's not getting any better. I would not recommend anyone move here, particularly if you are in the IT field. That's been hit real hard, no matter what any "professionals" say otherwise.
I mean why the F cant they make just a plain, normal looking phone anymore? Even something like this that has very LIMITED and SIMPLE features, which I would be all about (I think a flashlight is an awesome idea), it still has to look like it's from the year 2057. Seems to be quite a trend these days with cars also. I dont think I'll ever buy a car made after the year 2002.
Adobe put this in to obey the law.
It is not Adobe's job to enforce the law. That would be the secret service -- at least when it comes to counterfeit money. This is just plain old bullshit.
It's only closed to those who don't know about P2P apps, IRC, FTP, WWW, E-mail, CDR/DVDR, and any other method of transferring data... and the easiest way to gain entry is to type something like "/join #warez950". As far as the players, they don't come and go, they just change their names and keep doing what they're doing. I'm sorry, but how silly is this article?
I'm sorry, but how silly are you? "The scene" is not referring to downloading movies from kazaa or edonkey, it's about the people who allow this to happen, eg pirate the goods and distribute them. The article was slightly on the "dumbed down for joe public" side, but had more insight than I thought it would.
First off... all Wizards must die.
:)
Hehe... that made me laugh
How did you "add" servers? I cant find anything like that.
Now I just noticed the date/time also.. not sure where it's getting that... My BIOS clock is correct and it shows the right date in Windows.. :O
There's no indication in the program of being "connected" nor is there a connect command, and searching results in nothing.
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.... ? Not sure whtas wrong.
If you look at the "MUTE" file in the folder, apparently it's an error log. Here's what mine says:
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:52 1969 (937 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to add a new connection.
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:52 1969 (937 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to connect to katcher.2y.net:4900
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (296 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Timed out connecting to host.
L2 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (296 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Connection failed to katcher.2y.net:4900
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Adding a connection failed.
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to add a new connection.
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:50:58 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to connect to monolith.2y.net:4900
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Timed out connecting to host.
L2 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Connection failed to monolith.2y.net:4900
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Adding a connection failed.
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Trying to add a new connection.
L4 | Wed Dec 31 21:51:03 1969 (406 ms) | ConnectionMaintainer | Adding a connection failed.
So apparently katcher.2y.net:4900 is the "connect" server, or something. It's trying to connect to it every 5 seconds. I can ping it OK so
[Medical] costs me 35 bucks a pay check and 3 bucks for dental...who can't afford that?
I'm sorry... is that a joke? I just about shit a brick when I read that. 35 bucks a paycheck? FOR SOMEONE WHO MAKES MINIMUM WAGE? Good God!! Who CAN afford that? (I assume you get paid every other week... every week of 35 dollars would be even worse)
That is just ridiculous that the LARGEST COMPANY IN THE FRICKING WORLD cant give its employers cheap health insurance. I work at one of the Kroger offices, theyre a huge company as well (however I do believe walmart is huger, in terms of revenue and store count). I pay LESS THAN THREE dollars a paycheck for medical! $1.50 for dental! (We get paid every week). And it's damn good coverage too!
WalMart makes me fucking sick.
Excellent point. Someone should mod this mafa up. He knows what the F he is talking about. F.
omg rofl!!! :D
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It was 400 dollars. Not 300. :) It did sound spendy at the time but I got one anyways and have been extremely happy with my purchase.
Lots of popular movies end with a peaceful resolution at the end, or even a happy ending.
Yes, but these movies also end exactly how you expect them too. I think a lot of people were taken aback by the awkward ending in the Matrix -- the two main characters die, and neither side wins (humans vs machines). I don't care what anyone says, I swear this is why a lot of people don't like it, although I know 99% of them would never admit to such a thing. At first, I was like WTF? But then after thinking about it and seeing it again, I ended up really liking it.
Most movies are predictable, or at least have some sort of happy ending where everything is good and the guy gets the ho. This didn't have that and hence Joe Public didn't like it.
There's also the fact that this is the mvoie that everyone wanted to hate, because of Reloaded. I'll admit the second one was a bit of a disaster, until I saw the last one and realized how it all fit together. (Even then, the second was a bit long winded and had too much action and not enough plot).
Overall I can say I am very satisfied with the Matrix trilogy, something most people would never admit.
Wow nice argument.. yah what a bunch of cock suckers.... I AGREE but THE POINT is that this will result in lots more calls to cell phones. It doesnt matter if it's because they suck and should die horribly, because that does NOT change the fact that we WILL be getting more phone calls to the cellss, because they can use this argument.
In conclusion, please die.
I can hear a difference between a 128Kbps AAC and a FLAC
Yah, we're talking about napster here. AAC is iTunes. And actually WMA (what napster uses) is pretty damn nice quality, I think it's much better than AAC at the same KBPS. Try listening to the same song at a loud volume on a decent system from both itunes and napster. I can hear the difference clear as night and day -- WMA wins hands down and is almost as crystal clear as CD audio.
In other news iTunes is a great program.
I just thought you said AAC was crappy and you didnt get media or liner notes?
Look, apple zealot sir, napster streaming is different than iTMS streaming... Yes there are radio stations you can "tune in to", but with napster you can CREATE YOUR OWN FLIPPIN' RADIO. This is what makes it unique. You are not force fed what some dipshit in North Dakota says you should listen to. You make your own playlists and stream that. How about you try the product, or atleast read up on it a bit, before slamming it?
The site's been slashdotted!! :)
Is that an event or what?