Do you want your children learning mathematics via limited roman numerals or do you want them to be taught mathematics that includes the insane but powerful concept that nothing can have value (zero place holder of the hindu-arabic decimal system)?
The abstract tools we create are extensions ourselves, of our own design and choice such as mathematics (roman numeral or decimal system), programming and computer concepts and even language (human to human and human to computer). Being of our own design we must be careful not to limit ourselves for the sake of a given abstraction set and rules of its use.
As such the place to really start teaching about computers is that of learning first about ourselves and our ability to create and use Abstractions. From here the proper sequence of learning basic to complex computer programming concepts is just as important as the sequence of properly learning mathematics. Where you start with learning the abstract symbols of the numbers and what they represent or mean, extensions of counting on our fingers. Then the symbols for calculation of addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, etc.. You don't just jump right into algebra or calculus.
But with computer concepts and programming, which are most certainly extension of our ourselves, we do need to first learn of our power to create and use abstractions that extend beyond just numbers and mathematics. We need to first learn about the physics of abstraction. And there most certainly is a physics to recognize about our creation and use of abstractions. Just as nothing can have proven use and great power in mathematics (zero place holder) so does the seemingly insane "there is a physics to abstraction creation and use" has great power and sets the proper foundation upon which computer programming concepts be built.
Try to teach algebra with roman numerals and you will find it difficult if not impossible. Only in the roman numeral days, there wasn't algebra to identify the limits of the roman numerals in mathematics. Same today, we don't see the limitations and difficulty of current computer science teaching, but we see plenty of the symptoms in buggy software, failed software project, development overruns, etc.. We have not yet seen the importance of first teaching abstraction physics.
We need to change the foundation at its core, clarifying it. We need to be able to zero in on it.
...Paper! as what ever is on it will always be scan-able and software can be written to decode it. So how much paper does it take to print out the code of the linux kernel? Depends on how fine the print is.
There is another, but it has not yet been developed to a consumer level. Perhaps its only an idea in a lab yet.
We can make diamonds and other synthetic gems as well as many other things like Integrated circuits. By permanently growing the data into the crystalline gem structure or Integrated circuit that is then encased.....
In essence establishing a permanent atomic structure that represents the data.
Of course with enough heat or hammer it too can be destroyed.
During the civil war the slaves developed a method of communication that went unnoticed except by those who knew about it. They would sing song in the fields that woudl help to spread the word regarding teh undrground railroad.
Today common conversation communication can as well be used where there really is not anything to decipher. Language and its abstraction work by attaching meaning and only work as well as the argeed upon meaning by those using teh abstraction. It doesn't matter what meaning is attached so long as those using it understand what is being communicated
Everyone has heard of double speak, where what is communicated is meant to be perceived by the public one way but internally the very same words mean the opposite of what the public perceives. and this is just one example.
There is a saying, "locks as for honest people" meaning here if some dishonest group wanted to communicate without concern for NSA data mining, they could do so easily.
However, considering the massive amounts of data that is transfered from voice to digital on a daily or hourly basis and what the limits we have in computing power, its simple not possible to data mine for the terrorist threats from terrorists who want to avoid exposure and use such common conversation meaning dishonesty.
But it is very possible, very probable, and very reliable that such data mining be used to determine the attitudes of mass population mindsets and mindsets of population sections as well as spying on targeted US citizens that might influence such population in a direction counter to the "why determine the populations mindset and changes in it?" The unsuspecting American public is so easily influenced by the media so by knowing the overall attitudes of the American public and using the media to influence American attitudes, you have a feedback loop of CONTROL.
To properly address terrorist threats is to simply remove the reasons any terrorist group could play off of, that they won't be able to gain a following.
The World Trade Center was attacked on two different dates. The NSA had to know it was a target and why. It was because of the effects of the trillion dollar bet in south East Asia. Even Ted Turner publicly said 9/11 was an act of desperation and he'd know because his CNN News did a story on the effects as did also ABC. Follow the Money is the reality here.
This was avoidable but caused by greed. And on the other hand there is What The World Wants that shows that we do have the manpower, knowledge and not only the natural resources but the finances to remove reasons for terrorists to gain a following. And even more important, the question of: Why is this not being done?
Given the death and torture imposed upon innocent people during the Spanish inquisition and the fact Galileo was exonerated so very very late (1992 where it only really was to serve the church not this innocent but long dead person) and the fact that Indonesia by CIA records is 88% Muslim, its clear that religion is an excuse both ways. An excuse to use by the bad, be the bad being believers or non-believers. But 9/11 was about money, wrongful World Stock Market manipulations backed by political controlled military, hence the Pentagon and probable White house targets. It was about money not religion, regardless of what you call such evil dishonesty as happened in the stock market.
But if you wanted to get a very accurate view of the general population attitudes for such a media feedback loop of CONTROL , then what the NSA is doing with data mining will clearly work.
... what makes anyone think more cpus can be done?
Hoenetly, using a core 2 duo at work and after 3 weeks of swapping out every part of the system including the cpu.... sent hack to hp where they finally figured out it was the cpu.... oh wait it was swapped out too... so.... it was both cpus.... Whats the odds of that?
And now on another system, also a core 2 duo, I get application hangs and taskmanager saying no cpu is being used. Hmmm, must be some sort of fancy dancy hibernation power saving mode thingy that puts the user in a wait to get heat for not getting the job done..... piss on you....
So who is god? those who create the hardware or the software creators? because even at work, I'm assumed to be at fault as a user first.,....
And I'm fucking god damn sick of this shit from the computer industry arrogance. Don't they teach how to get things right before moving to the next step in the god training of CS?
My biggest pet peeve is this button with the symbols "0" & "1" on it... and everyone knows it means "on" and "off" as its used on all sorts of consumer and industrial electronic equipment.
But on a computer, these fucking GODS damn its gotta mean something more and hidden so the morons can think they know something more than their consumer slaves... so they can masterbait their arrogance and stroke their egos.
Hey I got this really neat idea and I have all sorts of sheep skins from a universatays that says I smarts more then you.... so lets do this and sell it and if it doesn't work then I still get a pay check so who the fucjk cares.... Lets abstract stuff so much that we are only experts at a small part and nobody is an expert of the whole... and dat way we can blame the other guy...
Maybe the computer industry needs a bailout too?
Here... have a holy bucket... start bailing... you have plenty experience at that.
It'd make to much sense to allow improvement and competition of the application of software ideas in the proprietary world. It'd be rather self contradictory of a proprietary software company to not sue.
Did any of you sign no-compete agreements? Clearly you don't have any sort of hope for a clean room development environment.
People sue others all the time and it can be a very resource draining matter to deal with. Consider SCO....
So maybe in the overall picture, either way you go, its not going to be any more worth it.
Seems to me what you are really wanting to do is to have your cake and eat it too.
And then there is the open source world, where there is plenty of cake to eat and have.
If we publicize who they are and in regards to this situation...... They will change their mind about going after sourceforge.
And this won't be the first time some companies have done an about face when presented with public perspective on such issues involving the public.... uh err their customers.
Watching TV makes one unhappy....as they fail to realize the addictive nature of advertising of things they really don't need, the BS of the news media and oh my.....the re-runs....
Watching TV is so very non-interactive.....
Slashdot makes for the frustrated TV watchers to release their frustrations.... which explains the generally negative attitude on the internet.
Solution.... do not get a digital TV converter box is a first step. We might just get a better internet because of it.... sure buddy.....
Slashdot Mirror
... the only one working xmas eve.
...the same supplier is providing video tape transfers to DVD for free.
That way we don't have to buy dvd copies of movies of already paid for.
Do you want your children learning mathematics via limited roman numerals or do you want them to be taught mathematics that includes the insane but powerful concept that nothing can have value (zero place holder of the hindu-arabic decimal system)?
The abstract tools we create are extensions ourselves, of our own design and choice such as mathematics (roman numeral or decimal system), programming and computer concepts and even language (human to human and human to computer). Being of our own design we must be careful not to limit ourselves for the sake of a given abstraction set and rules of its use.
As such the place to really start teaching about computers is that of learning first about ourselves and our ability to create and use Abstractions. From here the proper sequence of learning basic to complex computer programming concepts is just as important as the sequence of properly learning mathematics. Where you start with learning the abstract symbols of the numbers and what they represent or mean, extensions of counting on our fingers. Then the symbols for calculation of addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, etc.. You don't just jump right into algebra or calculus.
But with computer concepts and programming, which are most certainly extension of our ourselves, we do need to first learn of our power to create and use abstractions that extend beyond just numbers and mathematics. We need to first learn about the physics of abstraction. And there most certainly is a physics to recognize about our creation and use of abstractions. Just as nothing can have proven use and great power in mathematics (zero place holder) so does the seemingly insane "there is a physics to abstraction creation and use" has great power and sets the proper foundation upon which computer programming concepts be built.
Try to teach algebra with roman numerals and you will find it difficult if not impossible. Only in the roman numeral days, there wasn't algebra to identify the limits of the roman numerals in mathematics. Same today, we don't see the limitations and difficulty of current computer science teaching, but we see plenty of the symptoms in buggy software, failed software project, development overruns, etc.. We have not yet seen the importance of first teaching abstraction physics.
We need to change the foundation at its core, clarifying it. We need to be able to zero in on it.
Here for more information on Abstraction Physics
... throw the money at genuine software engineering (not psuedo engineering) so that we have much better tools by which to program with.
...Paper! as what ever is on it will always be scan-able and software can be written to decode it.
So how much paper does it take to print out the code of the linux kernel? Depends on how fine the print is.
There is another, but it has not yet been developed to a consumer level. Perhaps its only an idea in a lab yet.
We can make diamonds and other synthetic gems as well as many other things like Integrated circuits.
By permanently growing the data into the crystalline gem structure or Integrated circuit that is then encased.....
In essence establishing a permanent atomic structure that represents the data.
Of course with enough heat or hammer it too can be destroyed.
...isn't this what happens when you gotta have it yesterday?
Sorry, but then it is IDLE...
Exteriors for both men and women and this seems to be something of a match in technology. but thise is this too ASIMO which can walk and run.
... now I feel like I'm being flushed down a toilet.
During the civil war the slaves developed a method of communication that went unnoticed except by those who knew about it.
They would sing song in the fields that woudl help to spread the word regarding teh undrground railroad.
Today common conversation communication can as well be used where there really is not anything to decipher.
Language and its abstraction work by attaching meaning and only work as well as the argeed upon meaning by those using teh abstraction.
It doesn't matter what meaning is attached so long as those using it understand what is being communicated
Everyone has heard of double speak, where what is communicated is meant to be perceived by the public one way but internally the very same words mean the opposite of what the public perceives. and this is just one example.
There is a saying, "locks as for honest people" meaning here if some dishonest group wanted to communicate without concern for NSA data mining, they could do so easily.
However, considering the massive amounts of data that is transfered from voice to digital on a daily or hourly basis and what the limits we have in computing power, its simple not possible to data mine for the terrorist threats from terrorists who want to avoid exposure and use such common conversation meaning dishonesty.
But it is very possible, very probable, and very reliable that such data mining be used to determine the attitudes of mass population mindsets and mindsets of population sections as well as spying on targeted US citizens that might influence such population in a direction counter to the "why determine the populations mindset and changes in it?" The unsuspecting American public is so easily influenced by the media so by knowing the overall attitudes of the American public and using the media to influence American attitudes, you have a feedback loop of CONTROL.
To properly address terrorist threats is to simply remove the reasons any terrorist group could play off of, that they won't be able to gain a following.
The World Trade Center was attacked on two different dates. The NSA had to know it was a target and why.
It was because of the effects of the trillion dollar bet in south East Asia. Even Ted Turner publicly said 9/11 was an act of desperation and he'd know because his CNN News did a story on the effects as did also ABC. Follow the Money is the reality here.
This was avoidable but caused by greed. And on the other hand there is What The World Wants that shows that we do have the manpower, knowledge and not only the natural resources but the finances to remove reasons for terrorists to gain a following. And even more important, the question of: Why is this not being done?
Given the death and torture imposed upon innocent people during the Spanish inquisition and the fact Galileo was exonerated so very very late (1992 where it only really was to serve the church not this innocent but long dead person) and the fact that Indonesia by CIA records is 88% Muslim, its clear that religion is an excuse both ways. An excuse to use by the bad, be the bad being believers or non-believers. But 9/11 was about money, wrongful World Stock Market manipulations backed by political controlled military, hence the Pentagon and probable White house targets. It was about money not religion, regardless of what you call such evil dishonesty as happened in the stock market.
But if you wanted to get a very accurate view of the general population attitudes for such a media feedback loop of CONTROL , then what the NSA is doing with data mining will clearly work.
... what makes anyone think more cpus can be done?
Hoenetly, using a core 2 duo at work and after 3 weeks of swapping out every part of the system including the cpu.... sent hack to hp where they finally figured out it was the cpu.... oh wait it was swapped out too... so.... it was both cpus.... Whats the odds of that?
And now on another system, also a core 2 duo, I get application hangs and taskmanager saying no cpu is being used. Hmmm, must be some sort of fancy dancy hibernation power saving mode thingy that puts the user in a wait to get heat for not getting the job done..... piss on you....
So who is god? those who create the hardware or the software creators? because even at work, I'm assumed to be at fault as a user first.,....
And I'm fucking god damn sick of this shit from the computer industry arrogance. Don't they teach how to get things right before moving to the next step in the god training of CS?
My biggest pet peeve is this button with the symbols "0" & "1" on it ... and everyone knows it means "on" and "off" as its used on all sorts of consumer and industrial electronic equipment.
But on a computer, these fucking GODS damn its gotta mean something more and hidden so the morons can think they know something more than their consumer slaves... so they can masterbait their arrogance and stroke their egos.
Hey I got this really neat idea and I have all sorts of sheep skins from a universatays that says I smarts more then you.... so lets do this and sell it and if it doesn't work then I still get a pay check so who the fucjk cares.... Lets abstract stuff so much that we are only experts at a small part and nobody is an expert of the whole... and dat way we can blame the other guy...
Maybe the computer industry needs a bailout too?
Here... have a holy bucket... start bailing... you have plenty experience at that.
Bailing on teh end users....
End users are stupid..... we can blame them.....
if its not broke...... fix it so that it is.
Did they ever find WMD in Iraq?
Same deal here.... its not about security of the "internet" anymore then it is security of any other media, such as paper.
.... Richard Stallman.
worth a mention for large media space.
http://www.dragonflybsd.org/hammer/index.shtml
In simpler words: Wikipedia is a "hear-say" site.
...homeleand security...
jump on the bailout bandwagon..... like everyone else is...
It'd make to much sense to allow improvement and competition of the application of software ideas in the proprietary world.
It'd be rather self contradictory of a proprietary software company to not sue.
Did any of you sign no-compete agreements? Clearly you don't have any sort of hope for a clean room development environment.
People sue others all the time and it can be a very resource draining matter to deal with. Consider SCO....
So maybe in the overall picture, either way you go, its not going to be any more worth it.
Seems to me what you are really wanting to do is to have your cake and eat it too.
And then there is the open source world, where there is plenty of cake to eat and have.
it solves the aging geek brain problem.
Who owns the computers and the license to the software that is run on them?
If we publicize who they are and in regards to this situation...... They will change their mind about going after sourceforge.
And this won't be the first time some companies have done an about face when presented with public perspective on such issues involving the public.... uh err their customers.
Watching TV makes one unhappy....as they fail to realize the addictive nature of advertising of things they really don't need, the BS of the news media and oh my.....the re-runs....
Watching TV is so very non-interactive.....
Slashdot makes for the frustrated TV watchers to release their frustrations.... which explains the generally negative attitude on the internet.
Solution.... do not get a digital TV converter box is a first step. We might just get a better internet because of it. ... sure buddy.....
.... Marketing.
..just turn off the music...
The price we must pay to put the RIAA out of business.
there is so many to chose from...