It's not only that - but if you talk "off the record" to the SGI management - you'll hear that they quitely leaving the Linux scene - take a look what happend to most of their Open Source projects like their Pro64 compiler (dead), 3D Sample implementations (not updated for a long time), XFS (volunteered based maintenance), and quite few other open source projects...
* it can connect to Exchange 2000, but it will be able by June to connect to Excahnge 5.5 (with a new version of the Connector)
* regarind MS "bug fixing" - I hardly belive that they'll break their protocols right now - or they'll face tons of support nightmares (before/after patches) - take a look what happend with MS Win NT SP 6 with Lotus (and that was accident)..
* Ximian Connector costs too much - look at Binary's solution for example ($10 less then XC)...
One last think - I cannot reveal companies names right now - but if I was a sys admin thinking about implementing Ximian Connector for mail to connect to Exchange... I would wait a bit more.. some competition is coming...
I wish Mr. Icaza would have looked at companies that followed MS promises to "keep the standards open" and then they embraced and extended those standards.. Kereberos - rings a bell? Sure, they added some of their stuff which was allowed to extend, and now it's a PITA to talk to other kerberos servers...
Go ahead Ximian, compete with MS. I've seen it before and I've got this feeling that Ximian won't win here..
Oh yeah, that surely reminds me of my old Amiga 1000 - graphics, sound, sprites, simple vectors - and all in 1 boot sector! (yeah, I know - the data was on the last track on floppy but it surely looked great...
Who knows, maybe someone will implement it on LILO or GRUB - it will surely be more fun to boot;)
You can either get 2.4.17, add the 2.4.18pre3 and Alan Cox's 2.4.18pre3-ac2 patch..
Or simply get 2.4.17 + Rik's latest rmap patch..
I done some very heavy testing for 36 hours keeping the processor runnning at %99 and all memory occupied while compiling KDE CVS (full), XFree CVS (full), and the kernel itself over and over..
By the time the HDTV will "catch on" with lower prices and much more content - then you can rest assure that once again - Sony & Philips will sit down and come up with a next-generation DVD format (lets call it - DVD-2) that will have all the DVHS capabilities plus more..
Heck, they could also add recording option (limited by your cable/TV operator so he can disable his broadcast being recorded)...
As far as I can see about this DVHS - it's as dead as the DIVX format (not the codec).
Why the fucking hell do you think that a hacked debian version would be any helpful to you?
Sony did LOTS of work on this port - I can hardly belive that you'll get same acceleration of graphics from some 'hacked up' debian distro - not mentioning optimized binaries, heavily modified kernel with USB support (can you compare kernel 2.2.1 USB support to what Sony added there? I doubt)...
Oh, and for $199 you're getting TWO DVD's - one with the source and one is full Linux, which is... ehm... a bit more then a "hacked up" version...
Either quit bitching and hack for yourself or go buy it - $199 is not that much for a lot of work they did, plus they give kinda nice hardware...
The big question remains: Didn't Compaq and HP pulled the plug on their 64 bits a bit too early?
I don't know who's the Alpha sales manager at Compaq, but he should be fired (or shot if it's legal;) - but Compaq clearly didn't push Alpha sales as they pushed their Intel machines. Why can't I have an Alpha workstation at a REASONABLE price? even Sun prooved that you can have a very good Sun workstation (the blade) in a very affordable price with off the shelf parts, why not Compaq?
Same with HP, but HP's SuperDome looks more like a Super-Disaster coming along...
Look at this: Intel released a free (for non commercial) release of their compiler (ICC)
Did you see the KDE Developers move from GCC to ICC? I didn't, and I do follow the KDE lists..
What could be is that if borland (probably) will release their command line tools free (as a beer) - then someone might build KDE binaries and will give it out as super optimized. Those will be unofficial binaries of course.
Even if you switch tommorow the entire AOL back end servers to PC's with Linux, why not signing a contract with Red Hat for support? You don't really need all of RedHat...
Nice theory - now to some Real World (tm) problems:
1. User joe gets emails with.doc attachments, he needs (and he's used to) MS Office - no matter how good koffice/AbiWord/Star Office/Word Perfect/Hancom office is - he won't like it - he wants his favorite MS Office.
2. User joe buy his PC at the mall (best buy, fry's, etc) - they don't hand him Linux preinstalled - they give him Windows XP home edition + tons of useless stuff that he never uses.
3. User Joe just bought a nice brand new digital camera which uses Firewire and all he got with the camera are Windows drivers and manual which exaplains how to use & install under... yup, you guessed it, Windows...
I could go on and on with this but I think you got my point. It's not just the AOL thing, it's the apps and accessories - if user Joe wanted just the AOL client - then he might wanted to buy back then the gateway terminal - which, may I remind you, failed totally...
GTK apps? QT apps? GNOME? KDE? Motif? TCL/TK? Xlib? FLTK? all those application which are based on the above libraries - ditch them - who needs them anyway...
X network transparency - nah, who needs it? ditch it also...
Support by 3rd party vendors (Nvidia, Matrox, ATI, Kyro) - heck, who needs them anyway...
And all those Unix porting apps - ditch them too...
Wine? heck, who needs it?
sounds a bit crazy, right? thats EXACTLY what you sound like with your pretty stupid remark...
X will be here for a very long time - get used to it! you don't like it? go ahead, join berlin (3D hardware acceleration? OpenGL? yucks. no need), or DirectFB (so you got GeForce 3 and it behaves ike you have Cirrus Logic cira 1995 - so what? and the 3D part is dead too)...
Want to look at VMWare web site again? it costs $300 - 3 times the price of Lindows..
But you're comparing apples and oranges - VMWare gives you an entire virtual machine top to bottom, while Lindows will let you run some windows apps - specially Office.
Win4Lin could be a "competitor" but the biggest problem for me with it that it doesn't let you install anything other then Windows 95/98 and only english/german language (I need the Hebrew version)
Oh, because it will be able to run MS office + other apps?
Do you want also CodeWeavers to stop making crossover so you'll be won't able to see quicktime, shockwave or get any docs in word?
And transgaming? you don't want them to succseed and let people who run linux to play windows games? I don't know about you but I love playing return to castle wolfenstein single user (windows version only available now) under WineX - kill them too?
Give me a break! I wish all of them well and I hope they'll succseed! I bought CrossOver, subscribed to Transgaming and if Lindows will proove to be good - then heck - I'll buy it too! why? because I want my Linux to run some applications that they're vendors didn't give a shit about Linux and I want to use those applications without rebooting every time!
I wish I knew why Lindows won't sell their "wine" (I assume it's wine - it looks like it) to the people alongside the Lindows distribution?
I like my RedHat, and I'm sure other people love their Mandrake, SuSE or Debian - why not sell them this special wine for a good price? ($40-$50 should be fare enough to both sides)..
Don't think I am an MS lover or so - but the fact is - that the beta of Windows 3.1 (beta - not final release) showed that message, and when you pressed any key - it continued to load and run the (pretty buggy back then) Windows 3.1
Please, be accurate.
Re:The Register's vultures wrong again.
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No Solaris 9 for x86
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You may want to look deeper - deeper then press releases and PR pages..
Go ahead to any Unix shop and ask them to write/port for you any application to Unix on X86 - sure, they'll be happy to do it for either Linux (most of them - RedHat), FreeBSD and Sco-Unix (or whatever Caldera calls it now)...
Now - you might want to take a look at the price purposal - Linux will be the cheapest one, 2nd will be FreeBSD and ScoUnix - the most expensive one - I know because a company I know asked me to look a bit into it and asked around and I got several prices - the scene was the same on all of them.
To make a long story short - it's dead, Jim - it might take a bit of time for SCO/Caldera Unix to die - but it's written on the wall - just like what Coherent Unix was on PC back then..
Re:2003 Challenges for SAMBA team
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Samba Turns 10
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Not so fast,
Yes, the samba people do reverse engineer lots of part in SMB, AD etc, but MS knows about it, MS got even a link to Samba on their web pages, and there is even a person (forgot his name) who works at Microsoft (they call him "our man at MS")...
Microsoft actually profiting from this move - sure, they'll loosing a bit on server selling if you use Linux as a PDC, but you still need NT/2K for BDC stuff, you're also using Exchange server which needs licenses (and connected to PDC/BDC), and the biggest part - those servers service the Windows workstations - which is the big revenue to MS...
So if MS wanted to sue the SAMBA people - they would have sued them long time ago (see how fast they sued Lindows for a small thing as the name)..
Putting DRM in Linux (as it is on Windows today) could take couple of days for 2 programmers to implement - this is really an easy part.
I do think that OS that they're talking about is Linux based one since IBM knows and embrases Linux, Toshiba (in Japan) sells quite a lot of Linux servers there (and anyway - the Toshiba part here is to manufacture the semi-conductors like they make today the Emotion engine for Sony Playstation 2), and of course - Sony got lots of experience with Linux since Linux is the development OS for the PlayStation 2.
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It's not only that - but if you talk "off the record" to the SGI management - you'll hear that they quitely leaving the Linux scene - take a look what happend to most of their Open Source projects like their Pro64 compiler (dead), 3D Sample implementations (not updated for a long time), XFS (volunteered based maintenance), and quite few other open source projects...
Few more details:
* it can connect to Exchange 2000, but it will be able by June to connect to Excahnge 5.5 (with a new version of the Connector)
* regarind MS "bug fixing" - I hardly belive that they'll break their protocols right now - or they'll face tons of support nightmares (before/after patches) - take a look what happend with MS Win NT SP 6 with Lotus (and that was accident)..
* Ximian Connector costs too much - look at Binary's solution for example ($10 less then XC)...
One last think - I cannot reveal companies names right now - but if I was a sys admin thinking about implementing Ximian Connector for mail to connect to Exchange... I would wait a bit more.. some competition is coming...
I wish Mr. Icaza would have looked at companies that followed MS promises to "keep the standards open" and then they embraced and extended those standards.. Kereberos - rings a bell? Sure, they added some of their stuff which was allowed to extend, and now it's a PITA to talk to other kerberos servers...
Go ahead Ximian, compete with MS. I've seen it before and I've got this feeling that Ximian won't win here..
For the sake of GNOME - I hope I'll be wrong.
Oh yeah, that surely reminds me of my old Amiga 1000 - graphics, sound, sprites, simple vectors - and all in 1 boot sector! (yeah, I know - the data was on the last track on floppy but it surely looked great...
;)
Who knows, maybe someone will implement it on LILO or GRUB - it will surely be more fun to boot
Actually - there is some life in Lotus - check their web site...
You can either get 2.4.17, add the 2.4.18pre3 and Alan Cox's 2.4.18pre3-ac2 patch..
Or simply get 2.4.17 + Rik's latest rmap patch..
I done some very heavy testing for 36 hours keeping the processor runnning at %99 and all memory occupied while compiling KDE CVS (full), XFree CVS (full), and the kernel itself over and over..
It passed all without a single fail.
By the time the HDTV will "catch on" with lower prices and much more content - then you can rest assure that once again - Sony & Philips will sit down and come up with a next-generation DVD format (lets call it - DVD-2) that will have all the DVHS capabilities plus more..
Heck, they could also add recording option (limited by your cable/TV operator so he can disable his broadcast being recorded)...
As far as I can see about this DVHS - it's as dead as the DIVX format (not the codec).
Why the fucking hell do you think that a hacked debian version would be any helpful to you?
... ehm... a bit more then a "hacked up" version...
Sony did LOTS of work on this port - I can hardly belive that you'll get same acceleration of graphics from some 'hacked up' debian distro - not mentioning optimized binaries, heavily modified kernel with USB support (can you compare kernel 2.2.1 USB support to what Sony added there? I doubt)...
Oh, and for $199 you're getting TWO DVD's - one with the source and one is full Linux, which is
Either quit bitching and hack for yourself or go buy it - $199 is not that much for a lot of work they did, plus they give kinda nice hardware...
Dual Pentium 4?
Could you provide me with a URL for this motherboard pleae?
Thanks,
Wine is not GPL license - at least READ the license, it's more oreinted to the BSD style license.
Hetz
The big question remains: Didn't Compaq and HP pulled the plug on their 64 bits a bit too early?
;) - but Compaq clearly didn't push Alpha sales as they pushed their Intel machines. Why can't I have an Alpha workstation at a REASONABLE price? even Sun prooved that you can have a very good Sun workstation (the blade) in a very affordable price with off the shelf parts, why not Compaq?
I don't know who's the Alpha sales manager at Compaq, but he should be fired (or shot if it's legal
Same with HP, but HP's SuperDome looks more like a Super-Disaster coming along...
Oh well..
Never going to happend..
Look at this: Intel released a free (for non commercial) release of their compiler (ICC)
Did you see the KDE Developers move from GCC to ICC? I didn't, and I do follow the KDE lists..
What could be is that if borland (probably) will release their command line tools free (as a beer) - then someone might build KDE binaries and will give it out as super optimized. Those will be unofficial binaries of course.
Fixed.
Thanks,
That doesn't seems to be logic...
Even if you switch tommorow the entire AOL back end servers to PC's with Linux, why not signing a contract with Red Hat for support? You don't really need all of RedHat...
Nice theory - now to some Real World (tm) problems:
.doc attachments, he needs (and he's used to) MS Office - no matter how good koffice/AbiWord/Star Office/Word Perfect/Hancom office is - he won't like it - he wants his favorite MS Office.
1. User joe gets emails with
2. User joe buy his PC at the mall (best buy, fry's, etc) - they don't hand him Linux preinstalled - they give him Windows XP home edition + tons of useless stuff that he never uses.
3. User Joe just bought a nice brand new digital camera which uses Firewire and all he got with the camera are Windows drivers and manual which exaplains how to use & install under... yup, you guessed it, Windows...
I could go on and on with this but I think you got my point. It's not just the AOL thing, it's the apps and accessories - if user Joe wanted just the AOL client - then he might wanted to buy back then the gateway terminal - which, may I remind you, failed totally...
Got other explanations?
And what do you call Netscape 4.7x thats inside? it's a super closed source application, sir...
Sure, why not?
GTK apps? QT apps? GNOME? KDE? Motif? TCL/TK? Xlib? FLTK? all those application which are based on the above libraries - ditch them - who needs them anyway...
X network transparency - nah, who needs it? ditch it also...
Support by 3rd party vendors (Nvidia, Matrox, ATI, Kyro) - heck, who needs them anyway...
And all those Unix porting apps - ditch them too...
Wine? heck, who needs it?
sounds a bit crazy, right? thats EXACTLY what you sound like with your pretty stupid remark...
X will be here for a very long time - get used to it! you don't like it? go ahead, join berlin (3D hardware acceleration? OpenGL? yucks. no need), or DirectFB (so you got GeForce 3 and it behaves ike you have Cirrus Logic cira 1995 - so what? and the 3D part is dead too)...
You don't have any other options!
Well, it does run (I get the XBox logo and everything), but it has a VXD file inside - which wine as it is now doesn't support yet.
I don't have any XBox game to test though..
Want to look at VMWare web site again? it costs $300 - 3 times the price of Lindows..
But you're comparing apples and oranges - VMWare gives you an entire virtual machine top to bottom, while Lindows will let you run some windows apps - specially Office.
Win4Lin could be a "competitor" but the biggest problem for me with it that it doesn't let you install anything other then Windows 95/98 and only english/german language (I need the Hebrew version)
Why do you want it to fail?
Oh, because it will be able to run MS office + other apps?
Do you want also CodeWeavers to stop making crossover so you'll be won't able to see quicktime, shockwave or get any docs in word?
And transgaming? you don't want them to succseed and let people who run linux to play windows games? I don't know about you but I love playing return to castle wolfenstein single user (windows version only available now) under WineX - kill them too?
Give me a break! I wish all of them well and I hope they'll succseed! I bought CrossOver, subscribed to Transgaming and if Lindows will proove to be good - then heck - I'll buy it too! why? because I want my Linux to run some applications that they're vendors didn't give a shit about Linux and I want to use those applications without rebooting every time!
Go ahead - join RMS and his GPL only world!
I wish I knew why Lindows won't sell their "wine" (I assume it's wine - it looks like it) to the people alongside the Lindows distribution?
I like my RedHat, and I'm sure other people love their Mandrake, SuSE or Debian - why not sell them this special wine for a good price? ($40-$50 should be fare enough to both sides)..
Lindows people on slashdot readers to comment?
Don't think I am an MS lover or so - but the fact is - that the beta of Windows 3.1 (beta - not final release) showed that message, and when you pressed any key - it continued to load and run the (pretty buggy back then) Windows 3.1
Please, be accurate.
You may want to look deeper - deeper then press releases and PR pages..
Go ahead to any Unix shop and ask them to write/port for you any application to Unix on X86 - sure, they'll be happy to do it for either Linux (most of them - RedHat), FreeBSD and Sco-Unix (or whatever Caldera calls it now)...
Now - you might want to take a look at the price purposal - Linux will be the cheapest one, 2nd will be FreeBSD and ScoUnix - the most expensive one - I know because a company I know asked me to look a bit into it and asked around and I got several prices - the scene was the same on all of them.
To make a long story short - it's dead, Jim - it might take a bit of time for SCO/Caldera Unix to die - but it's written on the wall - just like what Coherent Unix was on PC back then..
Not so fast,
Yes, the samba people do reverse engineer lots of part in SMB, AD etc, but MS knows about it, MS got even a link to Samba on their web pages, and there is even a person (forgot his name) who works at Microsoft (they call him "our man at MS")...
Microsoft actually profiting from this move - sure, they'll loosing a bit on server selling if you use Linux as a PDC, but you still need NT/2K for BDC stuff, you're also using Exchange server which needs licenses (and connected to PDC/BDC), and the biggest part - those servers service the Windows workstations - which is the big revenue to MS...
So if MS wanted to sue the SAMBA people - they would have sued them long time ago (see how fast they sued Lindows for a small thing as the name)..
Putting DRM in Linux (as it is on Windows today) could take couple of days for 2 programmers to implement - this is really an easy part.
I do think that OS that they're talking about is Linux based one since IBM knows and embrases Linux, Toshiba (in Japan) sells quite a lot of Linux servers there (and anyway - the Toshiba part here is to manufacture the semi-conductors like they make today the Emotion engine for Sony Playstation 2), and of course - Sony got lots of experience with Linux since Linux is the development OS for the PlayStation 2.