So you're saying that gcc-3.1.1-CVS caused all the issues with the user interface? It must be a *really* buggy compiler!
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The anti-netscape sentiment present at deviantart.com is caused by 12-16 year old users that don't even realize that it was IE repeatedly breaks standards, and that mozilla/netscape is trying to fix that. Many at devart say that it is netscape that is breaking standards, and that they have to rewrite websites because of this. This is a good example of the brainwashing that Microsoft has performed. I cannot believe the amount of ignorance present at deviantart as evidenced by the Netscape post. We probably need to evangelize to the younger generations that have never used anything but IE.
I see right through your ruse. This guy is trying to cause a crash in mozilla for the linux users. This is bug 96504. Too bad it's been disabled for RC2 and will not cause a crash. Cute comment about looking through the source.
Are the MS Heathens out there going to hell if we don't convert them? Get over yourself, people. I suspect Linus has the right idea. Go play frisbee, dammit. =)
The MS heathens are threatening to send us to hell. How can you play frisbee at a time like this?
Well, that was not my point. All i was saying is that the article got the facts wrong, and that in fact you can start a dvd in gui mode with mplayer.
I have not read any articles that state that mplayer's gui is a pita. Can you provide a link? And I don't mind admitting that I do like mplayer's gui much better than xine or vlc. Ogle's interface is decent though.
MPlayer's main drawback, or at least irritation, is that you cannot access a DVD from the GUI; instead you have to start MPlayer with the -dvd flag in order for it to play your DVD. To view another DVD currently means that you have to restart MPlayer. Lastly, there is no support for DVD menus available at present, so you cannot access the additional features of your DVD with MPlayer.
This is false. If you start gmplayer, and then middle click in the video window, you get a menu which clearly states: "Play DVD"
So in fact, you do not need to start it from the command line. A real problem though is that sometimes this does not play back the desired audio track. Depending on the DVD, you may have to specify the audio track on the commandline.
All in all, mplayer is a sweet piece of software and arpi and the others deserve thanks for providing us (me at least) with a great media player.
It's funny you should mention that, because I did actually go out and buy one of these. I was hoping that POSE could be ported to it and then run Palm applications on top of that. So far though, no luck. There are no native medical applications that I can find, and no java ones either. Besides the paucity of medical applications for the SL5500, it's a nifty little item, especially with the wireless compact flash card.
Palm os 5 supports the ARM processor. When are the ARM based, Palm powered pda's coming out? I've been waiting around for a while now for news about this, but can't seem to find much. I love the usability of the Palm design, but medical software just crawls on the Dragonball processors. Also, a standard compactflash slot would be nice...But Sony would never do that.
1) Remember, the average home user just doesn't have a masters in computer theory and use. They need it simple. Linux (multiple distros) is the only choice, and not one exists that is not far more complicated and far less 'plug-and-play' than an MS operating system.
Have you seen the multiple articles on the Register and elsewhere comparing the installation of Windows to Mandrake? Mandrake is easier. But that's not the point, because how many users actually install Windows? Very few. Instead, through anti-competitive practices, Windows is thrust upon the general public, who do not know how to buy a computer without a pre-installed operating system.
4) Standards, standards, standards. Linux is not the king of standards, nor is the majority of software distributed for it. Emulators, plug-in managers and integrators, or just plain non-compliance is the order of the day when running Linux. The browsers, with maybe th exception of the pending Mozilla 1.0, all suck in some way and really don't do a good job on today's web (which is comprised of 75% sites optimized for IE). This is, next to interface/functionality/design the biggest issue facing the Linux world.
I hope you're not insinuating that Windows is the king of standards. If you are not, then the comparison to linux is invalid. If you are, well, surely you must be joking.
3) Slashdot recently posted (rather touted, though I don't think it's anything to crow about) that 1 in 5 hardware vendors today support *nix in someway in their product line and drivers. This is a grim number IMHO... if you can't run out and get that latest/greatest USB device or audio card, etc... to enjoy on your computer, there is a big hinderance to adoption in your home of an alterantive OS
Support from 1 in 5 vendors is a great achievement for the free software community. What, you think that this ratio is going to diminish? What was that ratio just a couple of years ago? The fact is that free software, and Linux in particular is making great inroads, gaining mindshare.
2) Can you run out to Best Buy or EBWorld and buy the latest game or Office XP or just about any other hot title for linux? No. Worse, alot of linux releases on the net of any qualitative value require you to know which distro you have and/or how to recompile.
I'll grudgingly give you this point:) But, you are incorrect if you think that a kernel recompile is necessary for good Linux software. Take RedHat for example, the kernel that it ships with has almost everything available as a module. No recompilation necessary. I'm sure it's the same with Mandrake or other "user friendly" distros.
You're argument fails, because someone had to agree to the microsoft terms. If there are more people with backbone that will not put up with this, it will eventually hurt them. Keep using your Mac and I'll keep using my Linux. At least in good conscience you can say that you didn't sit idly by while Microsoft tried to dominate the world.
I completely agree. I have stopped running windows tech support for my non technically inclined friends, but I feel bad saying that to my parents. Maybe i'll sneak into their house one day and just install Linux on their computers. Or replace them all with Macs. They'd probably be happy with the Macs
This (hopefully) teaches everyone here not to use microsoft products. And yes I do take into consideration the fact that many of you have to use microsoft tripe at work. Just don't use it at home. Please. And by this, I mean no more office 2000 purchases, no more purchases of computers with windows pre-installed, nothing. Just cut them off. One geek at a time. It will eventually work.
You are of course technically correct, but "lay off the acid" does not sound right. Hehe. And by the way, please lay off the crack, or acid or whatever you may be taking. Drugs are bad, mkay?
They better get used to the fact that sooner rather than later, people are going to start implanting all sorts of things into their bodies. It may be a bomb, it may be something harmless. But in the name of security, they cannot rip the stuff out of your body.
There has to be a way to securely identify the implant to the authorities. Maybe a serial number that is unique to the item, given by the manufacturer and then stored on a databse somewhere. Then, when walking through a scanner, it can sing like a canary about it's legitimacy.
Hell, pacemakers and implantable defibrillators already do this -- you hold an interrogator to the pacer and it gives up the manufacturer's name, serial number, mode, and cardiac rhythm data that it has stored.
There must be a secure and private way that this can be made to work on a large scale.
Ok, i've said it a few times on slashdot already, and i'll say it again. Get the right tools for the right job. if you're griping about a file manager that allows you to right click on a file with an extension and then perform an operation on it, then download the best filemanager ever, emelfm. You can do everything with this that you can do with explorer and so much more. Christ, stop comparing functions in linux to those in windows, if you have not spent a couple of minutes searching for the tools.
I hated the lobotomized Windows explorer when I actually had Win installed on one of my boxes, and had to replace it with some third party software that I cannot remember the name of now because it was so long ago -- maybe powerdesk or something like that.
Anyway, the point is, that linux can be as friendly as or as esoteric as *you* want it to be. Not like that shite windows, where everything is made for the lowest common denominator -- the dumbass.
And you make it sound as though dropping into a shell is a bad thing. What's wrong with the shell? Don't you want your kids to learn to type fast? And with word completion in almost all of the shells typing commands is downright simple!
edit your profile with the following:
alias packup "tar -czvf"
alias unpack "tar -xzvf"
This has been fixed since 0.9.7 or shortly thereafter in cvs. This was my *major* gripe with mozilla for a while -- 'cause I use it exclusively, *and* I read Slashdot everyday.
Distributing information, as long as it does not violate the DMCA, is protected by the US constitution. That includes information on how to construct bombs. For crying out loud, you can borrow books at the library that show you how to build pipe bombs.
Defacing websites on the other hand...different story.
Who was it that said "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it?"
Hey, your post prompted me to dl the old mozilla milestones, and test them out. I remember saying that M18 was "great." I wonder how i'll feel about that now.
Any self-respecting judge or attorney would not allow the subpoena of information in a trademark dispute case to be turned into undeserved financial gain. This doesn't make sense. If Microsoft uses the information improperly, obviously they will be reprimanded for it.
Yeah, like the little slap on the wrist they got for their monopoly.
Judge to Microsoft: "Don't do anything unethical with that email list, you hear? Or else this time, we'll really have to do something!
Microsoft: Gives judge the finger. "We own j00 b14t[h!"
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So you're saying that gcc-3.1.1-CVS caused all the issues with the user interface? It must be a *really* buggy compiler!
The anti-netscape sentiment present at deviantart.com is caused by 12-16 year old users that don't even realize that it was IE repeatedly breaks standards, and that mozilla/netscape is trying to fix that. Many at devart say that it is netscape that is breaking standards, and that they have to rewrite websites because of this. This is a good example of the brainwashing that Microsoft has performed. I cannot believe the amount of ignorance present at deviantart as evidenced by the Netscape post. We probably need to evangelize to the younger generations that have never used anything but IE.
I see right through your ruse. This guy is trying to cause a crash in mozilla for the linux users. This is bug 96504. Too bad it's been disabled for RC2 and will not cause a crash. Cute comment about looking through the source.
Again: RC2 is not affected by this.
The MS heathens are threatening to send us to hell. How can you play frisbee at a time like this?
Well, that was not my point. All i was saying is that the article got the facts wrong, and that in fact you can start a dvd in gui mode with mplayer.
I have not read any articles that state that mplayer's gui is a pita. Can you provide a link? And I don't mind admitting that I do like mplayer's gui much better than xine or vlc. Ogle's interface is decent though.
This is false. If you start gmplayer, and then middle click in the video window, you get a menu which clearly states: "Play DVD"
So in fact, you do not need to start it from the command line. A real problem though is that sometimes this does not play back the desired audio track. Depending on the DVD, you may have to specify the audio track on the commandline.
All in all, mplayer is a sweet piece of software and arpi and the others deserve thanks for providing us (me at least) with a great media player.
It's funny you should mention that, because I did actually go out and buy one of these. I was hoping that POSE could be ported to it and then run Palm applications on top of that. So far though, no luck. There are no native medical applications that I can find, and no java ones either. Besides the paucity of medical applications for the SL5500, it's a nifty little item, especially with the wireless compact flash card.
Palm os 5 supports the ARM processor. When are the ARM based, Palm powered pda's coming out? I've been waiting around for a while now for news about this, but can't seem to find much. I love the usability of the Palm design, but medical software just crawls on the Dragonball processors. Also, a standard compactflash slot would be nice...But Sony would never do that.
Have you seen the multiple articles on the Register and elsewhere comparing the installation of Windows to Mandrake? Mandrake is easier. But that's not the point, because how many users actually install Windows? Very few. Instead, through anti-competitive practices, Windows is thrust upon the general public, who do not know how to buy a computer without a pre-installed operating system.
I hope you're not insinuating that Windows is the king of standards. If you are not, then the comparison to linux is invalid. If you are, well, surely you must be joking.
Support from 1 in 5 vendors is a great achievement for the free software community. What, you think that this ratio is going to diminish? What was that ratio just a couple of years ago? The fact is that free software, and Linux in particular is making great inroads, gaining mindshare.
I'll grudgingly give you this point
You're argument fails, because someone had to agree to the microsoft terms. If there are more people with backbone that will not put up with this, it will eventually hurt them. Keep using your Mac and I'll keep using my Linux. At least in good conscience you can say that you didn't sit idly by while Microsoft tried to dominate the world.
Nope, I don't get the point. Everything that you say is FUD. People need to understand this: Good alternatives exist.
Now go get yourself a real operating system.
I completely agree. I have stopped running windows tech support for my non technically inclined friends, but I feel bad saying that to my parents. Maybe i'll sneak into their house one day and just install Linux on their computers. Or replace them all with Macs. They'd probably be happy with the Macs
This (hopefully) teaches everyone here not to use microsoft products. And yes I do take into consideration the fact that many of you have to use microsoft tripe at work. Just don't use it at home. Please. And by this, I mean no more office 2000 purchases, no more purchases of computers with windows pre-installed, nothing. Just cut them off. One geek at a time. It will eventually work.
:)
Thanks for your cooperation
But they should follow this up by posting a HOWTO about actually getting linux to run on this machine.
You are of course technically correct, but "lay off the acid" does not sound right. Hehe. And by the way, please lay off the crack, or acid or whatever you may be taking. Drugs are bad, mkay?
Are you on crack?
They better get used to the fact that sooner rather than later, people are going to start implanting all sorts of things into their bodies. It may be a bomb, it may be something harmless. But in the name of security, they cannot rip the stuff out of your body.
There has to be a way to securely identify the implant to the authorities. Maybe a serial number that is unique to the item, given by the manufacturer and then stored on a databse somewhere. Then, when walking through a scanner, it can sing like a canary about it's legitimacy.
Hell, pacemakers and implantable defibrillators already do this -- you hold an interrogator to the pacer and it gives up the manufacturer's name, serial number, mode, and cardiac rhythm data that it has stored.
There must be a secure and private way that this can be made to work on a large scale.
make
su
make install
Now you have all the "optional" progs in
Ok, i've said it a few times on slashdot already, and i'll say it again. Get the right tools for the right job. if you're griping about a file manager that allows you to right click on a file with an extension and then perform an operation on it, then download the best filemanager ever, emelfm. You can do everything with this that you can do with explorer and so much more. Christ, stop comparing functions in linux to those in windows, if you have not spent a couple of minutes searching for the tools.
I hated the lobotomized Windows explorer when I actually had Win installed on one of my boxes, and had to replace it with some third party software that I cannot remember the name of now because it was so long ago -- maybe powerdesk or something like that.
Anyway, the point is, that linux can be as friendly as or as esoteric as *you* want it to be. Not like that shite windows, where everything is made for the lowest common denominator -- the dumbass.
And you make it sound as though dropping into a shell is a bad thing. What's wrong with the shell? Don't you want your kids to learn to type fast? And with word completion in almost all of the shells typing commands is downright simple!
edit your profile with the following:
alias packup "tar -czvf"
alias unpack "tar -xzvf"
This has been fixed since 0.9.7 or shortly thereafter in cvs. This was my *major* gripe with mozilla for a while -- 'cause I use it exclusively, *and* I read Slashdot everyday.
Distributing information, as long as it does not violate the DMCA, is protected by the US constitution. That includes information on how to construct bombs. For crying out loud, you can borrow books at the library that show you how to build pipe bombs.
Defacing websites on the other hand...different story.
Who was it that said "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it?"
>Most of the big Geek music collections of friends
>around me are each over a Terabyte of music.
>That's still alot of money.
A terabyte of music! A piece! You're friends are the RIAA lawyers' wet dream.
Hey, your post prompted me to dl the old mozilla milestones, and test them out. I remember saying that M18 was "great." I wonder how i'll feel about that now.
Yeah, like the little slap on the wrist they got for their monopoly.
Judge to Microsoft: "Don't do anything unethical with that email list, you hear? Or else this time, we'll really have to do something!
Microsoft: Gives judge the finger. "We own j00 b14t[h!"
uhh, yeah. There are other women out there, man. I ain't that hard up.