Is it me, or everytime a french court's ruling regarding the internet or some 'your rights online' related thing is mentioned in slashdot the verdict is: "French judges just don't get it".... and before you ask, no, it's just a coincidence, I'm not related to the 'Guillermito' mentioned in the article.
I think the original poster's point is that *real* computers are just FSMs, because they dont have the infinite tape that TMs are supposed to have.
In that sense, if you add all the bytes of the processors registers plus all the bytes of the RAM, plus all the bytes of hard drives, you get a really, really big natural number. That number would represent the state of the machine.
You could easily extend that to a network of computers, aggregating all individual states to form a big network state.
On the other hand, that conceptualization falls once you add the human factor (think of mouse clicks or keyboard input). It is not as easy to link a human's state to a natural number.
So, when human input is involved (or maybe some other input source, like a temperature sensor) I think that input can be regarded as the infinite tape, making real computers TMs after all.
You outcite me for using a generalized source to define something.
Exactly
So in turn I chose to validate my point that Mysql is itself a database, that for which you must contend it isnt.
I never said if MySQL was or was not a database. I just challenged your definition. Let's go to a really credible source (like the books I mentioned) and see if MySQL meets their definition.
Therefor I cite a more credible source to prove this statement.
But you cited the wrong entry. If you would have cited the entry 'database' (not MySQL as you did) from wikipedia AND if wikipedia were an authoritative source in the database domain AND if MySQL met the wikipedia database definition THEN you would have a point.
Lol....REAL DATABASE features.....thats an odd term. Let us go to the Websters.
You go for a general purpose dictionary to find out the meaning of highly specialized, technical terms?
FYI, some would think you'd
needanentirebook
in order to explain what is a REAL DATABASE, and what it is not
Anyway, I hope you are not a doctor, "Heart: a hollow muscular organ of vertebrate animals that by its rhythmic contraction acts as a force pump maintaining the circulation of the blood" "- Yup! That's all I need to know!"
Also, the price seems kinda cheap. 99$ for a computer, back then?
I think that what you get for $99 is just "Windows 1.0" (the software), not a whole computer. You would use it to "upgrade" the computer you already had, installing it on top of an existing "DOS", and thus, allowing you to play reversi!
I wasn't commenting on the article, but rather on the post, which is plain illogical. You don't have to read the article to realize that, because saying that it is prohibitive to rent something because you are using it just once is a contradiction in itself. The excerpt you cited doesn't cover that, it just says something different.
I think it wouldn't be fair comparing an online shop to a traditional one, at least from the IT perspective.
When customers purchase at WalMart, they only "hit the database" at check-out at the cash registrar. (OK, maybe they can check prices with a barcode scanner, but that's marginal)
In an online shop, the whole process is supported by the aplication: searching for items, showing images, specifications, recommendations, and of course, also the check-out.
Moreover, Amazon.com is a particularly complex online shop. They support things like wish lists, recommendations based on your purchase history, they even keep track of the items you have seen in your current session ("The page you made"), etc.
All of this add complexity, and that complexity must reflect in the IT infrastructure they're using. Not to mention that they have to support not only the customers that purchase items, but also those who just visit the site, browse for items, but choose not no buy anything.
would be ideal to do the job at hand, but you would probably never ever need it to use it again, thus making the purchase/
RENTAL of equipment prohibitive?
I would rather say this is exactly the kind of situation in which renting the equipment makes sense.
I run OO 1.1.3 too. However, I installed it from my distro (Mandrake) CDs. They must have patched it / compiled it with non-standard options, so that's why the splash screen I see is not always-on-top.
It's good to know the next version will behave that way out of the box, though.
You do realize WWII was primarily about this issue don't you. In those days, Globalism was called Internationaism. Modern propaganda today may belittle nationalism as being nothing more than flag waving, but the real issue was national economic sovereignty in the face of growing international financial power. Thus, you have forgotten a major part of Option B, you can fight to preserve your way of life.
Exactly. And globalism won the war. The cold war that came after WW2 was fought in order to decide which kind of globalism would prevail. Both communism ("proletarians of the world unite") and capitalism ("capital should be allowed to move freely across borders") are internationalist ideologies. We know which party won that world too.
Well it doesn't improve privacy per se. I suggest you complement it with a bodyguard (should I say minder?) that after the flash, punch the poor guy on his face, grab his phone/camera, toss it on the floor, and crush it by stepping on it.
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The obvious answer to the question posted is the well known essay "The Magic Cauldron"
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/magic-cauldro
I can't believe nobody mentioned it before. (Yes! I actually checked it, so if someone did mention it, then Slashdot search sucks!)
Is it me, or everytime a french court's ruling regarding the internet or some 'your rights online' related thing is mentioned in slashdot the verdict is: "French judges just don't get it". ... and before you ask, no, it's just a coincidence, I'm not related to the 'Guillermito' mentioned in the article.
I think the original poster's point is that *real* computers are just FSMs, because they dont have the infinite tape that TMs are supposed to have.
In that sense, if you add all the bytes of the processors registers plus all the bytes of the RAM, plus all the bytes of hard drives, you get a really, really big natural number. That number would represent the state of the machine.
You could easily extend that to a network of computers, aggregating all individual states to form a big network state.
On the other hand, that conceptualization falls once you add the human factor (think of mouse clicks or keyboard input). It is not as easy to link a human's state to a natural number.
So, when human input is involved (or maybe some other input source, like a temperature sensor) I think that input can be regarded as the infinite tape, making real computers TMs after all.
Exactly
I never said if MySQL was or was not a database. I just challenged your definition. Let's go to a really credible source (like the books I mentioned) and see if MySQL meets their definition.
But you cited the wrong entry.
If you would have cited the entry 'database' (not MySQL as you did) from wikipedia AND if wikipedia were an authoritative source in the database domain AND if MySQL met the wikipedia database definition THEN you would have a point.
And your point is...?
I criticized you for taking the definition of a technical term (Database) from a non specialized source (Webster).
You respond by citing a (suposedly) more authoritative source (wikipedia). So, you are actually making *my* point.
You go for a general purpose dictionary to find out the meaning of highly specialized, technical terms?
FYI, some would think you'd need an entire book in order to explain what is a REAL DATABASE, and what it is not
Anyway, I hope you are not a doctor, "Heart: a hollow muscular organ of vertebrate animals that by its rhythmic contraction acts as a force pump maintaining the circulation of the blood" "- Yup! That's all I need to know!"
Maybe the reason because they don't advertise as much is this.
I wasn't commenting on the article, but rather on the post, which is plain illogical.
You don't have to read the article to realize that, because saying that it is prohibitive to rent something because you are using it just once is a contradiction in itself.
The excerpt you cited doesn't cover that, it just says something different.
I think it wouldn't be fair comparing an online shop to a traditional one, at least from the IT perspective.
When customers purchase at WalMart, they only "hit the database" at check-out at the cash registrar. (OK, maybe they can check prices with a barcode scanner, but that's marginal)
In an online shop, the whole process is supported by the aplication: searching for items, showing images, specifications, recommendations, and of course, also the check-out.
Moreover, Amazon.com is a particularly complex online shop. They support things like wish lists, recommendations based on your purchase history, they even keep track of the items you have seen in your current session ("The page you made"), etc.
All of this add complexity, and that complexity must reflect in the IT infrastructure they're using. Not to mention that they have to support not only the customers that purchase items, but also those who just visit the site, browse for items, but choose not no buy anything.
TexMacs,
best TeX editor ever.
I run OO 1.1.3 too. However, I installed it from my distro (Mandrake) CDs. They must have patched it / compiled it with non-standard options, so that's why the splash screen I see is not always-on-top.
It's good to know the next version will behave that way out of the box, though.
OpenOffice splash screen is not always-on-top anymore. Check the latest version.
A survey based on a Google search referred on Slashdot. How trustworthy.
What about movies showing a woman kissing another woman. Are they ok? That should make Indian cinema interesting.
Exactly. And globalism won the war. The cold war that came after WW2 was fought in order to decide which kind of globalism would prevail. Both communism ("proletarians of the world unite") and capitalism ("capital should be allowed to move freely across borders") are internationalist ideologies. We know which party won that world too.
Eclipse is not just for Java. You can use it for C and C++, python, COBOL, among others.
Well it doesn't improve privacy per se. I suggest you complement it with a bodyguard (should I say minder?) that after the flash, punch the poor guy on his face, grab his phone/camera, toss it on the floor, and crush it by stepping on it.
In Soviet Russia, Cameras take pictures of YOU!
Oh! Wait...!
Well... it means nothing, but it sounds like asalto, which means mug. I find it to be a well suited name for any Microsoft partner.
Oh! Is it that so?
Obligatory Futurama quote
Comic was the font used by default by MS Comic Chat.
You can regard this font as a clueless-meter. The fact that it was used on a formal document tells you something about its author.
Now... If only Mozilla could display favicons in the taskbar as Konqueror does.
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See bug 82130 in Bugzilla
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=821
(don't bother to make it a proper link since bugzilla doesn't allow referrers from Slashdot)