You're correct. But you also need to add that it's not only the target, but the goal in mind.
War's usually has an objective in mind. Land, political change, oil, etc..
Terrorism's only purpose is widespread FUD by involving innocents.
Now this WOULD seem to align more with the chip sabotage actually being terrorism except that the Soviets where NOT innocent as they where stealing this stuff.
Depends on the state you live in. In certain lawyer friendly states this is probably true. Many other states have passed laws protecting home owners from frivolous lawsuits like this.
When are people going to grow-up and understand that doing things that are wrong has bad consequences. Unless you are willing to live with that, don't do wrong things.
You are NOT entitled to anything..
Breaking into someone's house you shouldn't expect even a base level of safety. Stealing technology to run a very dangerous operation (especially without testing it first) is just stupid.
Ok, don't see anyone else asking this but is Apple going to do an iTunes for Linux? Shouldn't be that hard to port from BSD to Linux. Much easier than from Mac to Windows...
Yep, every RC item you have or would like to have operates within the 2-80 mhz range. Toys around 23Mhz (I think), Airplanes at 72Mhz and cars/boats at 75mhz. 50Mhz is reserved for Ham licensed RC..
Oh, and the Airplanes are secondary users. They also split a few of our frequencies to control large crans and construction equipment..
I've sent this article on to Dave Brown, president of the AMA (Academy of Model Aeronautics) to try and get their lobbing clout in action also.
So what your are suggesting is that it's MY responsibility to figure out the motive of someone breaking into my house? I'm supposed to not only quiz them as to their intentions but also figure out if they are capable of deadly force?
And you called ME a doorknob??? Did you even think before you posted that? I'm not talking about guarding a VCR but protecting my family.
Someone breaking into your house. Yes, you do need to do a little "Friend or Foe" to make sure you aren't shooting a family member but basically if you don't have a reason to be in my house, the worst can be assumed and YOU are taking your life into your own hands. YOU are the one that NEEDS TO BE CAREFUL. And in my state, Oklahoma, you can be running out the door and shot in the back and I'm still justified by the law.
Reckless shooting and defending your home and family have NOTHING to do with each other.
I wasn't meaning it meant there was going to be hail, but it's a good sign that there will be. Enough of one that you better get your car under something or else it'll look like you've been parked out on the driving range again..
I've lived in Oklahoma all my life and take most of this for granted. It wasn't until I started traveling and found that most places across the nation had pathetic weather technology.
The thing that is most strange is that in some places I would bet the average Oklahoma/Texas/Kansas person would have more knowledge of weather and how to read radar. We know what a "hook echo" is, can point out a "wall cloud", and know that the green tint means hail.
Oklahoma isn't much for technology but if you want cutting edge radar tech, no place is better. They recently did a study near here to see if airborne particles (like would be released from a terrorist crop duster) could be detected on our radar. Never will know the results but.. We also have Tinker AFB, home of the AWACS (the ultimate flying radar).
The fact of the matter is, if you are going to be in charge or having ANYTHING to do with money, your credit report DOES matter.
If you are involved with money and have problems with it, and it happens at work, the company could be liable (neglegent). This is a case of an employer covering their rear ends.
So, what you should do in this situation is to be responsible (with money in the first place) and honest (about problems you've had in the past). It'll take you a lot farther than creating a stink.
Election Fraud: Multiple independant inquires and nothing has been found. China: Causes by Taiwan, not Bush Terroist Attacks: You've GOT to be kidding.. Bankruptcies and economy, dept, etc..: If you would have stopped smoking crack, you'd be able to remember the recession starting BEFORE Bush took office. The economy is a big boat and doesn't turn fast.
Hmm, maybe you should stop relying on your dog for your political views..
You mean for each time I've asked for a response, you've side stepped the issue and said that "someone else" has already answered it. I looked through this thread, no one has.
So, as much as you are trying to avoid it, back to the topic at hand. There are problems with evolution still. Until it is air tight, it isn't a fact.
I doubt you read much outside of Bluesnews but just in case, here are some examples of some "not quite tied up loose ends".
Dinosaurs evolving in 10,000 years: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/296/55 71/1305
Or here is one that backs up my statement regarding mutation replication: http://www.nature.com/cgi-bin/wbsp-a rticle.cgi?art =397293A0&artlist=36ac4f9b.art:397293A0:397344A0&d ef=36a4f0a2.def&deflist=369ec097.def:3695afd1.def: 367d93e8.def:367d92b8.def:367552fa.def:366becc6.de f:366a2a69.def:366142af.def:36476bfe.def:36476b92. def: http://www.nature.com/server-java/Propub/nat ure/39 7344A0
Hmm, seems to be some issue as to how fish evolved. Seems the "common ancestor" theory may be wrong. Pennisi, E.. 1999. From Embryos and Fossils, New Clues to Vertebrate Evolution. Science 284: 575-577. (sorry, couldn't find it online).
Want me to continue?
Remember, I'm not saying evolution is false. I'm just calling what it is, our best guess so far at explaining how we got here. We are still learning things that shape this theory, mostly because some of us still dare ask the question "why".
I have no anger towards you. You are the one attacking me as being uneducated and closed minded. I'm just defending myself.
To review out thread.
1. I stated the evolution is a theory. The best one to date but, as of yet, unproven. 2. You responded, "Evolution is a fact - it has been observed to happen, which cannot be disputed." 3. You then added. "Speciation has been observed on several occasions, both in the lab and in nature, making it a fact." 4. I responded, "Speciation != Evolution.." and added that the evolution theory involved more than just speciation, it involved survival of the fittest and a continuation mechanism that our speciation cases hasn't been observed. 5. This is where you started commenting on my education and stating how sad you where for me.
So, as I see it, I'm still waiting on something from you other than personal attacks.
If you want to debate the issues, then do it. Your condecending attitude though tells me that you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about and would rather attack me as a person.
So please stop your pathetic "so sad" rhetoric before your head explodes from self worth.
Now, you are stating evolution as fact, I'm saying it's a theory that has yet to be proven. Do you want to even venture in these waters or do you want to stay on the shore and continue to make fun of those who can swim?
Forget the physical requirements. I could pass them all except the vision (which really isn't my fault). I'd love to work for the FBI though except for one thing.
It's the pay. Anyone truely gifted isn't going to be making $50k a year in this field.. Geesh. When they realize that the agent who is a computer genius and an agent who got a "criminal law" degree are two different agents, then we can talk.
Ah, so you are letting your emotions cloud your thinking.
I understand perfectly how the theory of evolution is supposed to work. You would do well to learn the whole theory and implications of each aspect instead of just learning the parts that fit your particular world view.
So, by launching a condescending personal attack you're telling me you are out of facts? You've exceeded your capability to think outside what you've been told to think?
FYI I have a VERY strong scientific background with an emphesis to questioning what other say are "facts" and search for truth. Only under continuous, repeated, and rigorious examination can we seperate what is real and what isn't.
You're assertion that we should just accept it as fact and move on I guess is what SHOULD be taught?
It is a FACT that two plants/animals/insects can reproduce and form what is, at this moment, considered a new species (the term keeps changing).
That is not evolution. It is a part yes, but not the whole "theory". For starters, to regard evolution as a fact you have to also accept that speciation results in a "more fit" species which has more than just a few holes.
1. In mating organisms, this speciation would have to result in more than one to continue the line. These mating organisms would have to then find each other, etc... 2. It would have to be "more fit" than the others where most of the speciation examples I've seen resulted in "less fit" organisms (which fits better that other Entropy "fact")..
I could go on but suffice to say that evolution is a theory. A good one but TAKEN AS A WHOLE, isn't a fact.
[quote] FWIW, almost all thinking non-fundamentalist Christians, as do most educated people regardless of religious belief/nonbelief, realize evolution is a scientific reality. [/quote]
I know it's nitpicky but evolution is a scientific "possibility". It is still regarded as a theory after all. And I know this non-fundamental Christian believes God could have used evolution to create us.
I would say it's the most likely theory. Ahead of the "we came from another world" theories for certain. But "scientific fact" which was actually "scientific theory" has been proven wrong so many times in the past. And we laugh at those "scientists" of the past and wonder HOW they could have been so stupid but yet we repeat that mistake ourselves.
LOL.. Ok, I got about to the part where it said "Former Microsoft security chief Howard Schmidt" and pretty much wrote this guy off. I mean, how could ANYONE who has done such a rotten job be taken seriously?
You're correct. But you also need to add that it's not only the target, but the goal in mind.
War's usually has an objective in mind. Land, political change, oil, etc..
Terrorism's only purpose is widespread FUD by involving innocents.
Now this WOULD seem to align more with the chip sabotage actually being terrorism except that the Soviets where NOT innocent as they where stealing this stuff.
Depends on the state you live in. In certain lawyer friendly states this is probably true. Many other states have passed laws protecting home owners from frivolous lawsuits like this.
When are people going to grow-up and understand that doing things that are wrong has bad consequences. Unless you are willing to live with that, don't do wrong things.
You are NOT entitled to anything..
Breaking into someone's house you shouldn't expect even a base level of safety. Stealing technology to run a very dangerous operation (especially without testing it first) is just stupid.
Ok, don't see anyone else asking this but is Apple going to do an iTunes for Linux? Shouldn't be that hard to port from BSD to Linux. Much easier than from Mac to Windows...
So what's up? Are we going to get any love?
You want to stop ALL CO2 emissions????
Ok, but you first!!
I can't even do a lookup on sbl.spamhaus.org. Did they get Spamhaus also?
Yep, every RC item you have or would like to have operates within the 2-80 mhz range. Toys around 23Mhz (I think), Airplanes at 72Mhz and cars/boats at 75mhz. 50Mhz is reserved for Ham licensed RC..
Oh, and the Airplanes are secondary users. They also split a few of our frequencies to control large crans and construction equipment..
I've sent this article on to Dave Brown, president of the AMA (Academy of Model Aeronautics) to try and get their lobbing clout in action also.
So what your are suggesting is that it's MY responsibility to figure out the motive of someone breaking into my house? I'm supposed to not only quiz them as to their intentions but also figure out if they are capable of deadly force?
And you called ME a doorknob??? Did you even think before you posted that? I'm not talking about guarding a VCR but protecting my family.
Someone breaking into your house. Yes, you do need to do a little "Friend or Foe" to make sure you aren't shooting a family member but basically if you don't have a reason to be in my house, the worst can be assumed and YOU are taking your life into your own hands. YOU are the one that NEEDS TO BE CAREFUL. And in my state, Oklahoma, you can be running out the door and shot in the back and I'm still justified by the law.
Reckless shooting and defending your home and family have NOTHING to do with each other.
Ok, true.
I wasn't meaning it meant there was going to be hail, but it's a good sign that there will be. Enough of one that you better get your car under something or else it'll look like you've been parked out on the driving range again..
I've lived in Oklahoma all my life and take most of this for granted. It wasn't until I started traveling and found that most places across the nation had pathetic weather technology.
The thing that is most strange is that in some places I would bet the average Oklahoma/Texas/Kansas person would have more knowledge of weather and how to read radar. We know what a "hook echo" is, can point out a "wall cloud", and know that the green tint means hail.
Oklahoma isn't much for technology but if you want cutting edge radar tech, no place is better. They recently did a study near here to see if airborne particles (like would be released from a terrorist crop duster) could be detected on our radar. Never will know the results but.. We also have Tinker AFB, home of the AWACS (the ultimate flying radar).
Very true.
Of course when they do fail, it'd all be blamed on
1. Bill Gates (which might be valid but..)
2. Pres. Bush
3. Those damn Evolutionists...
4. RIAA
5. MPAA
The fact of the matter is, if you are going to be in charge or having ANYTHING to do with money, your credit report DOES matter.
If you are involved with money and have problems with it, and it happens at work, the company could be liable (neglegent). This is a case of an employer covering their rear ends.
So, what you should do in this situation is to be responsible (with money in the first place) and honest (about problems you've had in the past). It'll take you a lot farther than creating a stink.
Election Fraud: Multiple independant inquires and nothing has been found.
China: Causes by Taiwan, not Bush
Terroist Attacks: You've GOT to be kidding..
Bankruptcies and economy, dept, etc..: If you would have stopped smoking crack, you'd be able to remember the recession starting BEFORE Bush took office. The economy is a big boat and doesn't turn fast.
Hmm, maybe you should stop relying on your dog for your political views..
See, told you only MOR(O)AN-1's would run WinCE..
So what happens when this thing crashes? Will it program your VCR to record 8 hours of Jerry Springer? Order pay-per-view porn over and over again?
Think about it, Xbox + PVR + MORAN-1. The possibilities are endless of really screwing something up.
You mean for each time I've asked for a response, you've side stepped the issue and said that "someone else" has already answered it. I looked through this thread, no one has.
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So, as much as you are trying to avoid it, back to the topic at hand. There are problems with evolution still. Until it is air tight, it isn't a fact.
I doubt you read much outside of Bluesnews but just in case, here are some examples of some "not quite tied up loose ends"
Dinosaurs evolving in 10,000 years: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/short/296/5
Or here is one that backs up my statement regarding mutation replication:
http://www.nature.com/cgi-bin/wbsp-
http://www.nature.com/server-java/Propub/na
Hmm, seems to be some issue as to how fish evolved. Seems the "common ancestor" theory may be wrong.
Pennisi, E.. 1999. From Embryos and Fossils, New Clues to Vertebrate Evolution. Science 284: 575-577. (sorry, couldn't find it online).
Want me to continue?
Remember, I'm not saying evolution is false. I'm just calling what it is, our best guess so far at explaining how we got here. We are still learning things that shape this theory, mostly because some of us still dare ask the question "why".
So, to summarize your incredibly scientific points..
1. I am wrong.
2. You are right.
THAT is your arguement? Great points...
Knowledge is gained by asking "why" now and then, you should try it. It would make it a lot easier to back up your superiority complex.
I have no anger towards you. You are the one attacking me as being uneducated and closed minded. I'm just defending myself.
To review out thread.
1. I stated the evolution is a theory. The best one to date but, as of yet, unproven.
2. You responded, "Evolution is a fact - it has been observed to happen, which cannot be disputed."
3. You then added. "Speciation has been observed on several occasions, both in the lab and in nature, making it a fact."
4. I responded, "Speciation != Evolution.." and added that the evolution theory involved more than just speciation, it involved survival of the fittest and a continuation mechanism that our speciation cases hasn't been observed.
5. This is where you started commenting on my education and stating how sad you where for me.
So, as I see it, I'm still waiting on something from you other than personal attacks.
What a load of crap.
If you want to debate the issues, then do it. Your condecending attitude though tells me that you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about and would rather attack me as a person.
So please stop your pathetic "so sad" rhetoric before your head explodes from self worth.
Now, you are stating evolution as fact, I'm saying it's a theory that has yet to be proven. Do you want to even venture in these waters or do you want to stay on the shore and continue to make fun of those who can swim?
Forget the physical requirements. I could pass them all except the vision (which really isn't my fault). I'd love to work for the FBI though except for one thing.
It's the pay. Anyone truely gifted isn't going to be making $50k a year in this field.. Geesh. When they realize that the agent who is a computer genius and an agent who got a "criminal law" degree are two different agents, then we can talk.
Ah, so you are letting your emotions cloud your thinking.
I understand perfectly how the theory of evolution is supposed to work. You would do well to learn the whole theory and implications of each aspect instead of just learning the parts that fit your particular world view.
So, by launching a condescending personal attack you're telling me you are out of facts? You've exceeded your capability to think outside what you've been told to think?
FYI I have a VERY strong scientific background with an emphesis to questioning what other say are "facts" and search for truth. Only under continuous, repeated, and rigorious examination can we seperate what is real and what isn't.
You're assertion that we should just accept it as fact and move on I guess is what SHOULD be taught?
It has been observed??? Bull-kaka...
Speciation != Evolution..
It is a FACT that two plants/animals/insects can reproduce and form what is, at this moment, considered a new species (the term keeps changing).
That is not evolution. It is a part yes, but not the whole "theory". For starters, to regard evolution as a fact you have to also accept that speciation results in a "more fit" species which has more than just a few holes.
1. In mating organisms, this speciation would have to result in more than one to continue the line. These mating organisms would have to then find each other, etc...
2. It would have to be "more fit" than the others where most of the speciation examples I've seen resulted in "less fit" organisms (which fits better that other Entropy "fact")..
I could go on but suffice to say that evolution is a theory. A good one but TAKEN AS A WHOLE, isn't a fact.
[quote] FWIW, almost all thinking non-fundamentalist Christians, as do most educated people regardless of religious belief/nonbelief, realize evolution is a scientific reality. [/quote]
I know it's nitpicky but evolution is a scientific "possibility". It is still regarded as a theory after all. And I know this non-fundamental Christian believes God could have used evolution to create us.
I would say it's the most likely theory. Ahead of the "we came from another world" theories for certain. But "scientific fact" which was actually "scientific theory" has been proven wrong so many times in the past. And we laugh at those "scientists" of the past and wonder HOW they could have been so stupid but yet we repeat that mistake ourselves.
This is cool and all but I can't seem to find a Linux utility to manage the tracks.
Anyone know if this will work with Linux?
Doesn't Sprint and Verizon have an agreement allowing cross-usage of their cell towers?
I know I have Sprint and I get better coverage across the nation than the people with me that have AT&T or Cingular.
LOL.. Ok, I got about to the part where it said "Former Microsoft security chief Howard Schmidt" and pretty much wrote this guy off. I mean, how could ANYONE who has done such a rotten job be taken seriously?