I guess if it wasnt a tie there would be problems. If Bill Gates was ahead of Torvalds, all of the Linux zealots would claim that the list was put together by an underground Microsoft operative.
If Torvalds was actually in front of Gates the whole list would be considered a farce.
The only reason that Jobs is ahead of both of them is so that is ego doesnt explode and kill innocent bystanders.
How often after getting a speeding ticket do we think to ourselves "Why don't cops go solve REAL crimes".
I think this applies here as well. Why should it be up to a government or court to decide whether or not a company is allowed to be independantly successful or not. Whatever happened to free enterprise?
I can't wait to buy a 6 pack of Coke only to find a can of Crab Juice and a can of Mountain Dew in it.
It is only really in the trendy bars where you have 500-1000 people all between the ages of 18-24, and most of the guys have a serious testosterone problem, and the women are dressed to the nines.
This is just a recipe for fighting and general emotions running wild. Also with local street gangs you dont want any turf issues being resolved in a place where you want a drink and a good fun evening.
Pubs, Lounges and other licensed establishments generally ask for ID only if your age is in question. Since they are generally smaller they are MUCH easier to control without such measures.
Its NOT a Big Brother issue. Its a SAFETY issue. I dont want to frequent a bar in which the guy who stabbed someone on the dancefloor is still allowed it.
I am beginning to think that Americans these days are WAY TOO PARANOID for their own good.
Downtown Toronto clubs have metal detectors and a bouncer that pats you down for weapons. You are also asked to empty your pockets and coat check is mandatory.
if you dont have ID... (even if you are 80 and with a wheelchair) you CANT GET IN.
however... as a result the number of fights i have seen at those bars i can count on one hand... and on a number of occasions i would see "fights" end before they even started because the guys would know that they would be banned everywhere else as well for a minimum of 6 months
Ever since I was 18 (1998) in Winnipeg (its in Canada, for those educated in the US) they have been doing this.
For all of the bars affiliated with the CanadInns Corp (www.canadinns.com) this was the standard routine for getting into a bar.
- empty pockets into a basket - walk through metal detector - pick up belongings - hand bouncer your ID - bouncer photographs the license - pay cover
And if you happen to be male they also check your name against their database to see if you have been banned from the bar or caused problems on an earlier occasion.
This is really nothing new other than the fact that different owners are now sharing the information.
The sad thing is that Microsoft is the only company that can do this because they arent trying the keep their OWN head about water... Redhat and Zaurus (along with every other Linux based company) are only 12 months from bankrupcy.
...that the corporate world has stepped up to the plate and started contributing to the education of children.
the government has been falling behind on this year after year and in some areas of the inner city many children have zero access to computers and technology.
why must it be that the only way to get a decent education from K-12 is to pay for it and go to a private school?
99% (not a real calculation) of all linux-based appliances that have appeared on/. have never even hit the commercial markets.
I will admit that there have been some neat ideas here... but for the most part they have copied (and poorly at that) something that already exists. I would be REALLY hesitant to buy something just because its LINUX BASED from some startup company. I would rather have hardware that has ties with the evil empire but have a warranty that actually means something.
Anyone want to complile a list of Linux Based appliances that have gone mainstream (with the exception of webservers)
in an effort to increase the intensity of my workouts i bought a tin of protien/creatine "grape koolaid" mix.
not only does it make your sweat stink of sulphur... the drink also tastes like rotten eggs and i would normally have to chase it back with my nose plugged and with a couple glasses of water to kill the taste in my mouth.
sure it helped my reps... but the odour kind of defeats the purpose when you use it to pick up the ladies.
There are no valid reasons why anyone would need to host anything at HavenCo. In the UK you can host the same site for half of what it costs at HavenCo... and for even cheaper in the US.
Perhaps they were hoping that Napster would find refuge there?
Probably took 2 days off work to make $199. This logic reminds me of a Simpsons episode.
Homer: Okay, boy. This is where all the hard work,
sacrifice, and painful scaldings pay off. Employee: Four pounds of grease... that comes to... sixty-
three cents. Homer: Woo-hoo! Bart: Dad, all that bacon cost twenty-seven dollars. Homer: Yeah, but your mom paid for that! Bart: But doesn't she get her money from you? Homer: And I get my money from grease! What's the problem?
[an "Acne Grease Co." truck passes by Homer and
Bart, and Homer looks on admiringly]
Wow! Look at that load of grease. Boy, if we're
ever going to earn paper money, we have to expand
our operation. Bart: Uh, I don't know how much more school I can miss. Homer: Oh, you'll miss plenty! I have a feeling this
business is going to consume our whole lives.
Slashdot Mirror
I guess if it wasnt a tie there would be problems.
If Bill Gates was ahead of Torvalds, all of the Linux zealots would claim that the list was put together by an underground Microsoft operative.
If Torvalds was actually in front of Gates the whole list would be considered a farce.
The only reason that Jobs is ahead of both of them is so that is ego doesnt explode and kill innocent bystanders.
"If you want more secure software, upgrade."
That quote goes for Linux as well as MS. How many people do you know that are still running 2.0.34
the patches exploit you!
How often after getting a speeding ticket do we think to ourselves "Why don't cops go solve REAL crimes".
I think this applies here as well. Why should it be up to a government or court to decide whether or not a company is allowed to be independantly successful or not. Whatever happened to free enterprise?
I can't wait to buy a 6 pack of Coke only to find a can of Crab Juice and a can of Mountain Dew in it.
Hopefully the RIAA doesnt have any chairs with extra legs to prevent tipping... or a battery operated hammer.
just not interesting enough to be slashdotted...
apple vs intel
sco vs linux
ms vs everyone
boring
saw reloaded in Calgary on an IMAX screen when it came out too...
also saw both LOTR movies on an IMAX screen as well.
Memory only works for "lifer" bouncers. How can you bar someone for life when the average turnover of bartenders/bouncers is 6-12 months.
It is only really in the trendy bars where you have 500-1000 people all between the ages of 18-24, and most of the guys have a serious testosterone problem, and the women are dressed to the nines.
This is just a recipe for fighting and general emotions running wild. Also with local street gangs you dont want any turf issues being resolved in a place where you want a drink and a good fun evening.
Pubs, Lounges and other licensed establishments generally ask for ID only if your age is in question. Since they are generally smaller they are MUCH easier to control without such measures.
Its NOT a Big Brother issue. Its a SAFETY issue. I dont want to frequent a bar in which the guy who stabbed someone on the dancefloor is still allowed it.
I am beginning to think that Americans these days are WAY TOO PARANOID for their own good.
RELLLLAAAAAAAAAX (and start thinking logically)
To clarify...
The BIG difference here is BARS VS CLUBS. The photo ID scanning is only popular in CLUBS.
Pubs, Lounges, Taphouses and other licensed establishments in Winnipeg just ask for ID when your age is in question.
Downtown Toronto clubs have metal detectors and a bouncer that pats you down for weapons. You are also asked to empty your pockets and coat check is mandatory.
to add to this...
if you dont have ID... (even if you are 80 and with a wheelchair) you CANT GET IN.
however... as a result the number of fights i have seen at those bars i can count on one hand... and on a number of occasions i would see "fights" end before they even started because the guys would know that they would be banned everywhere else as well for a minimum of 6 months
Ever since I was 18 (1998) in Winnipeg (its in Canada, for those educated in the US) they have been doing this.
For all of the bars affiliated with the CanadInns Corp (www.canadinns.com) this was the standard routine for getting into a bar.
- empty pockets into a basket
- walk through metal detector
- pick up belongings
- hand bouncer your ID
- bouncer photographs the license
- pay cover
And if you happen to be male they also check your name against their database to see if you have been banned from the bar or caused problems on an earlier occasion.
This is really nothing new other than the fact that different owners are now sharing the information.
Neil,
Will Dave McKean be creating any of the art for the new Sandman series?
Jason (Calgary, Alberta Canada)
The sad thing is that Microsoft is the only company that can do this because they arent trying the keep their OWN head about water... Redhat and Zaurus (along with every other Linux based company) are only 12 months from bankrupcy.
...that the corporate world has stepped up to the plate and started contributing to the education of children.
the government has been falling behind on this year after year and in some areas of the inner city many children have zero access to computers and technology.
why must it be that the only way to get a decent education from K-12 is to pay for it and go to a private school?
Before you can have a Linux vs MS GUI fight. I think the Linux community needs to come together and settle their own differences first.
As nice as it is to be able to have several GUI choices... it is ALSO the biggest annoyance in the O/S.
At least with Windows you can buy Windows software and its guaranteed to work with the operating system.
couldn't access the recently /.'ed site...
but i wonder if he has a co-pilot... you know just in case he blacks out, has a heart attack or something.
99% (not a real calculation) of all linux-based appliances that have appeared on /. have never even hit the commercial markets.
I will admit that there have been some neat ideas here... but for the most part they have copied (and poorly at that) something that already exists. I would be REALLY hesitant to buy something just because its LINUX BASED from some startup company. I would rather have hardware that has ties with the evil empire but have a warranty that actually means something.
Anyone want to complile a list of Linux Based appliances that have gone mainstream (with the exception of webservers)
in ca-na-da eh.. thars sometin aboot addin the letter u to words to make it all better...
yeah... all you would have to do is burp and kill any assailant with your breath... the put him in a full nelson and let the BO take over.
in an effort to increase the intensity of my workouts i bought a tin of protien/creatine "grape koolaid" mix.
not only does it make your sweat stink of sulphur... the drink also tastes like rotten eggs and i would normally have to chase it back with my nose plugged and with a couple glasses of water to kill the taste in my mouth.
sure it helped my reps... but the odour kind of defeats the purpose when you use it to pick up the ladies.
There are no valid reasons why anyone would need to host anything at HavenCo. In the UK you can host the same site for half of what it costs at HavenCo... and for even cheaper in the US.
Perhaps they were hoping that Napster would find refuge there?
Probably took 2 days off work to make $199. This logic reminds me of a Simpsons episode.
... that comes to ... sixty-
Homer: Okay, boy. This is where all the hard work,
sacrifice, and painful scaldings pay off.
Employee: Four pounds of grease
three cents.
Homer: Woo-hoo!
Bart: Dad, all that bacon cost twenty-seven dollars.
Homer: Yeah, but your mom paid for that!
Bart: But doesn't she get her money from you?
Homer: And I get my money from grease! What's the problem?
[an "Acne Grease Co." truck passes by Homer and
Bart, and Homer looks on admiringly]
Wow! Look at that load of grease. Boy, if we're
ever going to earn paper money, we have to expand
our operation.
Bart: Uh, I don't know how much more school I can miss.
Homer: Oh, you'll miss plenty! I have a feeling this
business is going to consume our whole lives.
...where is its pile of money?