If you stop BPL because of ham radio, then you should outlaw cars because it hurts buggywhip industry (turnabout is fair play, pseudolibertarians!).....and k the miserable little crypto-rightwingers, pseudolibertarians who mod down egalitarianism-oriented SPEECH!
why is it everytime some story is posted here that talks about some way to get cheaper broadband, there are so many posts here slamming the general idea?
I thought slashdotters LIKED technology?
Maybe the motto should be changed to "News for Luddites"?
once the larger urban areas (read 50% of America) are able to get broadband for $20-25/month, without having to pay for a mandatory phone line or cable tv along with that, THEN VOIP will be disruptive.
But as long as the vast majority cannot get cheap broadband BY ITSELF, VOIP will languish.
Here is a theory: besides wifi, the only thing that may push down rates and packages to that mentioned above is the upcoming digital Tv switchover. Broadcasting in dgital, each tv station will be able to broadcast 3 or perhaps 6 distinct channels. Thus in many urban areas, where you might have 4 to 6 channels that most people can get via rabbit ears, that might turn into 12 to 36 channels of content. Thus, broadcast tv could compete with cable tv. Thus, cable tv will lose a lot of subscribers. Thus, they will have to sell broadband cheapers. Thus the Telcos will have to sell broadband cheaper. All the telcos will be starting up their own dsl tv.
So it may be tv that pushes broadband down, not wifi.
In America, we are organized along the tenets of monopoly capitalism, i.e., the golden rule: the one with the gold makes the rules. THe telephone companies over here have the gold, and the VOIP companies are upstarts. Thus our govt will do pretty much whatever the telco's want them to do.
THe govt will kill off the VOIPs for the telcos. THat is the law of the golden rule and monopoly capitalism. THat is the law of America--those who have, shall have more. Those who have not, shall have less.
Now, a small percentage of those who have not, will scratch and claw their way into the realm of the gold. This goes for both people and companies. Once they get into the gold, the payoffs are enormous. However, the vast majority will fail. But in order to validate the American system, those with the gold will point to this fraction who succeed and use that to validate the system.
And we Americans accept it.
THe biggest of the VOIP companies will make it into the gold, and use their power to help squash all other VOIP competitors via the govt.
THe healthcare prices that Americans pay carry all the rest of the world when it comes to medical research! THat is why our American drug prices are so high, why our American healthcare costs so much!
isn't that what the rightwingers say whenever they encounter arguments that the other countries pay much less in healthcare?
Yeah....and where was cloning first accomplished?
Yeah....uh huh....we Americans are carrying the rest of the world when it comes to medical research. Sure....
.back in the heyday of *legal* and controlled immigration,the 1800's, our federal government was 100% funded by protectionist tariffs at the border. Did you forget that little part?
Not only that, but America only came into being itself BECAUSE of promises of protectionism.
When the Founding Fathers tried to get the Constitution ratified, hardly anyone wanted to go along with it. The working people, the few of them that could vote (mostly up north) wanted nothing to do with that Rich Man's Constitution written by the Founding Fathers (Rhode Island voted 90% not to ratify it).
So the Founding Fathers decided to cut a protectionist trade deal with the artisans and mechanicks of the north (NY City mainly) to get them to vote for it. They promised to protect them from British imports.
And the artisans went along with it. And that is probably the main reason why America is in the form it is today (there were other compromises, but that was probably the crucial one)
Well, you're wrong, but at least you have the basics of making a semi-lucid argument. OK, let's party: Outside of internet forums and colleges, very little transmission of political ideas is going on from person to person. I think you need to get out a little more. See, there are these things called "conversations", which allow a person-to-person transmission of ideas. And these "conversations" still occur all over the place. Visit your local coffeehouse, cafe, restaurant, or bar sometime, to see what I mean.
Almost a good point. Actually, whenever and wherever possible, I make a point of doing just that. In fact, I even experiment to see whether the ideas that I elicit from such conversations can be traced to dominant sociopolitical meme machines, like the rightwing talk radio or the fauxliberal magazines. What I get back is just a regurgitation of memes churned out by either the marketist-right or the identity-politics FauxLeft. Memes that favor the elite, IOW.
We no longer fight for our rights. "We" (i.e. the great unwashed masses) no longer fight for our rights because we are fat and happy - some of the wealthiest people on the planet. Yes, yes, I know, "we" are not as wealthy as "the elite", but we're still far better off than most of the rest of the world. As a a result, "we" have become complacent and decadent.
Your elite-vs-the-workers class warfare rhetoric is charmingly quaint, but "so 20th Century". The vast majority of Americans are "middle class".
Almost a good point. I will completely agree that we have a high living standard. But suppose you own a business, and you hire me to run it. You and I have an agreement--I get 10% of the profits. The business does well. And your profits increase. However, you investigate and find out that the business is doing so well that I you manager am taking more than our agreement specified.
THat is what is happening here in America. Yes, Americans are living better than they did in the past? Better and cheaper food, and medicine is better. And technology is so much better that it enrichs our lives in many ways.
But these benefits are due to the steady increase in the accumulation of scientific knowledge, and is not a benefit of the brand of monopoly capitalism that dominates America today. Look at Europe. THey have the benefits of technology, but they have cheap and available healthcare for everyone because they rein in the power of the elite.--specifically the power of the megacorporations.
We Americans have increased productivity greatly, but we are not reaping the benefits of our work. Our lifestyles have declined because we do not have the great labor laws and social safety net of europe. THey have the best of both worlds. We do not, because we do not rein in our elite.
Europeans are free, free to quit their jobs, free to experiment, to take a chance, all because of their great social safety net.
Also, they get much more time off, far more than we do. We cannot take 6 weeks off a year, or we would be for the most part, forced out of the careerist realm.
Life is not defined strictly as the price of a hamburger or the price of a CD player, although the elite would like you to think that. Other things are important as well.
Right, a muni wifi network that is low cost or free to the user could save America (yes, pseudoLibertarians, I realize it would have to be paid for by taxes, hence the phrase "to the user").
I say this because right now the mass media is responsible for the transmission of the vast majority of political/social ideas. Outside of internet forums and colleges, very little transmission of political ideas is going on from person to person. All ideas come from the mass media.
However, the mass media is owned and operated by the elite, the upper crust, the high earners, the rich, the powerful. These people have political ideas that are different from most working class Americans. In particular, the elite have ideas that favor the elite, not surprisingly. What sorts of ideas favor the elite? Well, the idea of a flat tax favors the elite because the elite get to keep more of their wealth. And it hurts us. THe elite like regressive taxation. That hurts us and helps them.
THe elite like globalization. But it hurts us.
The elite like lots of immigration. But that hurts us working American citizens.
The elite like war. It opens up new markets for the corporations. But we die in these wars.
So, these elite-friendly ideas are favored by the elite. And the mass media is controlled by the elite.
100 years ago, most idea transmission was person to person. And not surprisingly that was when the working people fought and died for a decent workplace, for labor laws, for the right to vote.
We no longer fight for our rights. And so we are losing them. Look at Europe. They work less and get more. We work more and get less. That is because our culture has been taken over by elite thinking via the mass media.
If we want to change our culture back to a workerist-friendly one, and not an elite-friendly one, we need to have a society where ideas are transmitted from working person to working person, not from a few elite persons to muliple working persons. Muni wifi could be the way to do that. Once you get free or very cheap broadband via muni wifi, and you put that together with p2p networks to pass video from person to person, that opens up the way for video entertainment made on the cheap.
This is how the early American theater was, about 100 years ago. The first movies were not shown in opulent theaters like they are now. Instead most were shown in the corners of little urban bodegas, and most movies were made on the cheap by semi-amateur filmmakers. Many of the early movies were strongly pro-worker and anti-elite. These early movies helped start the labor movement that gave us our labor laws (see the book Working Class Hollywood for more info).
Then the big money moved in and bought some politicians and outlawed the small movies via safety regulations and political censorship.
Muni wifi + p2p could be the new movie industry. And it could revitalize America.
This "research" is almost certainly bought and paid for by the telcos.
Common sense will tell you that muni wifi is a good thing for you and me and a bad thing for the telcos. If the costs of muni wifi outweigh the benefits, then why are the telcos spending so much money buying all this legislation to outlaw muni wifi?
Also, there are cities that have already implemented muni wifi, therefore why not go loko at their implementation, and SEE what the costs and benefits are? Why bother with this fake research? And did the telcos pay Slashdot to run this article?
It doesn't matter that 100 people dropped dead of sudden heart attack in England today. And that 100 will drop dead of sudden heart attack in England tomorrow, and the next day. And the next, etc.
It doesn't matter that 100,000 people die every day on this planet, most of cancer and heart disease. And it doesn't matter that we could take all that money from the war machine budget and use it to cure sudden heart attacks and cancer. It doesn't matter that 60% of the federal American budget goes to the so-called "defense" war machine (most of it is hidden in non-defense categories, boys....).
All that matters is that the elite can use this little bombing to SCARE YOU, and then they can use that as an excuse to do whatever they want. It's called an outrage-pretext-incident, boys. See WTC-911, Kuwait rapes, Tonkin Gulf, Pearl Harbor, the Lusitania, and the USS Maine, etc etc.
You ain't nuttin' but meat machines, nuttin' but domesticated livestock, swimming in an elite-friendly culture evolved by decades of elite propaganda, and heeding the call of your CorpGovMedia masters. Look at you--jerking and twitching to the blare and noise of their propaganda, like ideological versions of Pavlov's dogs....Homo Sapiens Americanus....
When the investor class gets its way, we Americans will be back to those kinds of conditions. But you don't care, right? As long as YOU can handle it, as long as YOU are OK, then everything is OK, right?
the 10-minute brain damage happens when the patient is REVIVED, NOT when they are ischemic (without oxygen). The reoxygenation of the blood causes a cascade inflammatory reaction that causes the brain damage. Note that this particular brain damage is not structural in nature, but instead is functional. IOW, the memories are still there, but the cell functions no longer work.
There is another type of brain damage that IS structural--autolysis, where the cells eat themselves when they are starved for oxygen. But that takes many hours without oxygen for serious damage to occur.
Now, both the cascade inflammatory reaction AND autolysis processes can be greatly slowed by lowering the body temperature. That is why people can sometimes be revived from drowning in cold lakes after being underwater for an hour or more.
And....AND...this set of ideas I explained above is why cryonics MIGHT work.
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Fortunately, you are not king of america,
right, you are. Kudos to you.
and most people are smarter than you will ever be.
Wrong there.
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If I were King of America, I would sentence every warmonger, every libertarian who every wanted to spend money on pseudoscience hero-mongering, hierarchy worship like moon missions, to a punishment of living in a coffin with a rotting corpse, one of a dead American who died because he/she could not get basic healthcare because the money was spent on some militaristic-corporatist adventure or hero-worship crap like Iraq. See how you like the smell of week-old rotting corpse.....
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FUCK YOU!
Bringing profanity into political discussions is the OPPOSITE of "degrading" the discussion; instead, it is UPGRADING them. Profanity is REAL. it is everyday REAL speech that speaks the truth, and with emotion.
FUCK every libertarian piece of shit who read Heinlein and would rather send a man to the moon with N billion dollars instead of saving human lives with that money. Pardon my reality....
People dying because of lack of healthcare, THAT'S fucking real. Sending hero surrogates to the fucking moon and giving them tickertape parades with flags fucking waving, that is fucking HOMOCIDE, if the money could have gone to saving lives.
See how "upgraded" my posts are? See how REAL they are?
You notice Europe or Canada or Australia ain't engaging in this sort of nonsense? There is a reason why....
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why not put it on a national referendum, and see what the people think? What do you think the outcome would be, you selfish, propagandized piece of libertarian shit?
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Well, the thing is that probably most of the people who are interested in or involved in this sort of p2p internet thing, either on the coding or content side all realize that we Americans are basting from birth in a sea of corporate-cultural, anti-collectivist propaganda. This is more or less a leftist thing.
Most of us are big into "social history", which more or less means studying history with a bottom-up perspective, a leftist perspective, actually. So we already know that the big money has ALWAYS dominated the world of news and propaganda and sociopolitical-thought in so many ways that it boggles the mind. We know all about the think tanks that feed the media with propaganda so subtle and pervasive that most people never even see it, even though it is all around them.
So we know that if these people took your implied suggestion to transmit ANY submissions at all, and if this p2p TV idea takes off, and becomes a major media outlet, then the Big Money would be all over it with their propaganda. And they would dominate in the p2p TV arena, too.
We aint about to let that happen. So they will, and should, filter the content.
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If you stop BPL because of ham radio, then you should outlaw cars because it hurts buggywhip industry (turnabout is fair play, pseudolibertarians!). ....and k the miserable little crypto-rightwingers, pseudolibertarians who mod down egalitarianism-oriented SPEECH!
why is it everytime some story is posted here that talks about some way to get cheaper broadband, there are so many posts here slamming the general idea?
I thought slashdotters LIKED technology?
Maybe the motto should be changed to "News for Luddites"?
once the larger urban areas (read 50% of America) are able to get broadband for $20-25/month, without having to pay for a mandatory phone line or cable tv along with that, THEN VOIP will be disruptive.
But as long as the vast majority cannot get cheap broadband BY ITSELF, VOIP will languish.
Here is a theory: besides wifi, the only thing that may push down rates and packages to that mentioned above is the upcoming digital Tv switchover. Broadcasting in dgital, each tv station will be able to broadcast 3 or perhaps 6 distinct channels. Thus in many urban areas, where you might have 4 to 6 channels that most people can get via rabbit ears, that might turn into 12 to 36 channels of content. Thus, broadcast tv could compete with cable tv. Thus, cable tv will lose a lot of subscribers. Thus, they will have to sell broadband cheapers. Thus the Telcos will have to sell broadband cheaper. All the telcos will be starting up their own dsl tv.
So it may be tv that pushes broadband down, not wifi.
why do slashdot technophiles hate the idea of free or cheap broadband?
free or cheap is like the holy grail of technology? Why is it every time it comes up we have so many supposed technophiles slamming the idea here?
Peculiar.....
If this pans out, and a major company is saying it will, then this is a BIG deal.
Funny, though, on what is supposedly the primary technophile site in the world, how few comments there are here.
And funny how many of the comments are negative.
And the naysaying comments are not well thought out or persuasive.
WTF?
Is everyone here a ham radio person or a lobbyist for the telcos, or what?
google it if you are curious.....
Now you may return to your normal nonsense. My Rightwing stalkers will of course mod me down....as per usual...
In America, we are organized along the tenets of monopoly capitalism, i.e., the golden rule: the one with the gold makes the rules. THe telephone companies over here have the gold, and the VOIP companies are upstarts. Thus our govt will do pretty much whatever the telco's want them to do.
THe govt will kill off the VOIPs for the telcos. THat is the law of the golden rule and monopoly capitalism. THat is the law of America--those who have, shall have more. Those who have not, shall have less.
Now, a small percentage of those who have not, will scratch and claw their way into the realm of the gold. This goes for both people and companies. Once they get into the gold, the payoffs are enormous. However, the vast majority will fail. But in order to validate the American system, those with the gold will point to this fraction who succeed and use that to validate the system.
And we Americans accept it.
THe biggest of the VOIP companies will make it into the gold, and use their power to help squash all other VOIP competitors via the govt.
THat is the Law.
THe healthcare prices that Americans pay carry all the rest of the world when it comes to medical research! THat is why our American drug prices are so high, why our American healthcare costs so much!
isn't that what the rightwingers say whenever they encounter arguments that the other countries pay much less in healthcare?
Yeah....and where was cloning first accomplished?
Yeah....uh huh....we Americans are carrying the rest of the world when it comes to medical research. Sure....
Not only that, but America only came into being itself BECAUSE of promises of protectionism.
When the Founding Fathers tried to get the Constitution ratified, hardly anyone wanted to go along with it. The working people, the few of them that could vote (mostly up north) wanted nothing to do with that Rich Man's Constitution written by the Founding Fathers (Rhode Island voted 90% not to ratify it).
So the Founding Fathers decided to cut a protectionist trade deal with the artisans and mechanicks of the north (NY City mainly) to get them to vote for it. They promised to protect them from British imports.
And the artisans went along with it. And that is probably the main reason why America is in the form it is today (there were other compromises, but that was probably the crucial one)
Well, you're wrong, but at least you have the basics of making a semi-lucid argument. OK, let's party:
Outside of internet forums and colleges, very little transmission of political ideas is going on from person to person.
I think you need to get out a little more. See, there are these things called "conversations", which allow a person-to-person transmission of ideas. And these "conversations" still occur all over the place. Visit your local coffeehouse, cafe, restaurant, or bar sometime, to see what I mean.
Almost a good point. Actually, whenever and wherever possible, I make a point of doing just that. In fact, I even experiment to see whether the ideas that I elicit from such conversations can be traced to dominant sociopolitical meme machines, like the rightwing talk radio or the fauxliberal magazines. What I get back is just a regurgitation of memes churned out by either the marketist-right or the identity-politics FauxLeft. Memes that favor the elite, IOW.
We no longer fight for our rights.
"We" (i.e. the great unwashed masses) no longer fight for our rights because we are fat and happy - some of the wealthiest people on the planet. Yes, yes, I know, "we" are not as wealthy as "the elite", but we're still far better off than most of the rest of the world. As a a result, "we" have become complacent and decadent.
Your elite-vs-the-workers class warfare rhetoric is charmingly quaint, but "so 20th Century". The vast majority of Americans are "middle class".
Almost a good point. I will completely agree that we have a high living standard. But suppose you own a business, and you hire me to run it. You and I have an agreement--I get 10% of the profits. The business does well. And your profits increase. However, you investigate and find out that the business is doing so well that I you manager am taking more than our agreement specified.
THat is what is happening here in America. Yes, Americans are living better than they did in the past? Better and cheaper food, and medicine is better. And technology is so much better that it enrichs our lives in many ways.
But these benefits are due to the steady increase in the accumulation of scientific knowledge, and is not a benefit of the brand of monopoly capitalism that dominates America today. Look at Europe. THey have the benefits of technology, but they have cheap and available healthcare for everyone because they rein in the power of the elite.--specifically the power of the megacorporations.
We Americans have increased productivity greatly, but we are not reaping the benefits of our work. Our lifestyles have declined because we do not have the great labor laws and social safety net of europe. THey have the best of both worlds. We do not, because we do not rein in our elite.
Europeans are free, free to quit their jobs, free to experiment, to take a chance, all because of their great social safety net.
Also, they get much more time off, far more than we do. We cannot take 6 weeks off a year, or we would be for the most part, forced out of the careerist realm.
Life is not defined strictly as the price of a hamburger or the price of a CD player, although the elite would like you to think that. Other things are important as well.
Right, a muni wifi network that is low cost or free to the user could save America (yes, pseudoLibertarians, I realize it would have to be paid for by taxes, hence the phrase "to the user").
I say this because right now the mass media is responsible for the transmission of the vast majority of political/social ideas. Outside of internet forums and colleges, very little transmission of political ideas is going on from person to person. All ideas come from the mass media.
However, the mass media is owned and operated by the elite, the upper crust, the high earners, the rich, the powerful. These people have political ideas that are different from most working class Americans. In particular, the elite have ideas that favor the elite, not surprisingly. What sorts of ideas favor the elite? Well, the idea of a flat tax favors the elite because the elite get to keep more of their wealth. And it hurts us. THe elite like regressive taxation. That hurts us and helps them.
THe elite like globalization. But it hurts us.
The elite like lots of immigration. But that hurts us working American citizens.
The elite like war. It opens up new markets for the corporations. But we die in these wars.
So, these elite-friendly ideas are favored by the elite. And the mass media is controlled by the elite.
100 years ago, most idea transmission was person to person. And not surprisingly that was when the working people fought and died for a decent workplace, for labor laws, for the right to vote.
We no longer fight for our rights. And so we are losing them. Look at Europe. They work less and get more. We work more and get less. That is because our culture has been taken over by elite thinking via the mass media.
If we want to change our culture back to a workerist-friendly one, and not an elite-friendly one, we need to have a society where ideas are transmitted from working person to working person, not from a few elite persons to muliple working persons. Muni wifi could be the way to do that. Once you get free or very cheap broadband via muni wifi, and you put that together with p2p networks to pass video from person to person, that opens up the way for video entertainment made on the cheap.
This is how the early American theater was, about 100 years ago. The first movies were not shown in opulent theaters like they are now. Instead most were shown in the corners of little urban bodegas, and most movies were made on the cheap by semi-amateur filmmakers. Many of the early movies were strongly pro-worker and anti-elite. These early movies helped start the labor movement that gave us our labor laws (see the book Working Class Hollywood for more info).
Then the big money moved in and bought some politicians and outlawed the small movies via safety regulations and political censorship.
Muni wifi + p2p could be the new movie industry. And it could revitalize America.
This "research" is almost certainly bought and paid for by the telcos.
Common sense will tell you that muni wifi is a good thing for you and me and a bad thing for the telcos. If the costs of muni wifi outweigh the benefits, then why are the telcos spending so much money buying all this legislation to outlaw muni wifi?
Also, there are cities that have already implemented muni wifi, therefore why not go loko at their implementation, and SEE what the costs and benefits are? Why bother with this fake research? And did the telcos pay Slashdot to run this article?
HAL!
Eat it all up, yum yum.
It doesn't matter that 100 people dropped dead of sudden heart attack in England today. And that 100 will drop dead of sudden heart attack in England tomorrow, and the next day. And the next, etc.
It doesn't matter that 100,000 people die every day on this planet, most of cancer and heart disease. And it doesn't matter that we could take all that money from the war machine budget and use it to cure sudden heart attacks and cancer. It doesn't matter that 60% of the federal American budget goes to the so-called "defense" war machine (most of it is hidden in non-defense categories, boys....).
All that matters is that the elite can use this little bombing to SCARE YOU, and then they can use that as an excuse to do whatever they want. It's called an outrage-pretext-incident, boys. See WTC-911, Kuwait rapes, Tonkin Gulf, Pearl Harbor, the Lusitania, and the USS Maine, etc etc.
You ain't nuttin' but meat machines, nuttin' but domesticated livestock, swimming in an elite-friendly culture evolved by decades of elite propaganda, and heeding the call of your CorpGovMedia masters. Look at you--jerking and twitching to the blare and noise of their propaganda, like ideological versions of Pavlov's dogs....Homo Sapiens Americanus....
6 days a week, for a dollar or so. Kids to have to work too, in factories and mines.
But your ancestors fought back, and finally won some decent working conditions. Some of them died for our working conditions.
When the investor class gets its way, we Americans will be back to those kinds of conditions. But you don't care, right? As long as YOU can handle it, as long as YOU are OK, then everything is OK, right?
Download it right here free and legal!
Plan 9 is public domain! I am watching it right now.
the 10-minute brain damage happens when the patient is REVIVED, NOT when they are ischemic (without oxygen). The reoxygenation of the blood causes a cascade inflammatory reaction that causes the brain damage. Note that this particular brain damage is not structural in nature, but instead is functional. IOW, the memories are still there, but the cell functions no longer work.
There is another type of brain damage that IS structural--autolysis, where the cells eat themselves when they are starved for oxygen. But that takes many hours without oxygen for serious damage to occur.
Now, both the cascade inflammatory reaction AND autolysis processes can be greatly slowed by lowering the body temperature. That is why people can sometimes be revived from drowning in cold lakes after being underwater for an hour or more.
And....AND...this set of ideas I explained above is why cryonics MIGHT work.
needs an obvious tag....
Fortunately, you are not king of america,
right, you are. Kudos to you.
and most people are smarter than you will ever be.
Wrong there.
If I were King of America, I would sentence every warmonger, every libertarian who every wanted to spend money on pseudoscience hero-mongering, hierarchy worship like moon missions, to a punishment of living in a coffin with a rotting corpse, one of a dead American who died because he/she could not get basic healthcare because the money was spent on some militaristic-corporatist adventure or hero-worship crap like Iraq. See how you like the smell of week-old rotting corpse.....
FUCK YOU!
Bringing profanity into political discussions is the OPPOSITE of "degrading" the discussion; instead, it is UPGRADING them. Profanity is REAL. it is everyday REAL speech that speaks the truth, and with emotion.
FUCK every libertarian piece of shit who read Heinlein and would rather send a man to the moon with N billion dollars instead of saving human lives with that money. Pardon my reality....
People dying because of lack of healthcare, THAT'S fucking real. Sending hero surrogates to the fucking moon and giving them tickertape parades with flags fucking waving, that is fucking HOMOCIDE, if the money could have gone to saving lives.
See how "upgraded" my posts are? See how REAL they are?
You notice Europe or Canada or Australia ain't engaging in this sort of nonsense? There is a reason why....
why not put it on a national referendum, and see what the people think? What do you think the outcome would be, you selfish, propagandized piece of libertarian shit?
instead of wasting it on moon travel?
Well, the thing is that probably most of the people who are interested in or involved in this sort of p2p internet thing, either on the coding or content side all realize that we Americans are basting from birth in a sea of corporate-cultural, anti-collectivist propaganda. This is more or less a leftist thing.
Most of us are big into "social history", which more or less means studying history with a bottom-up perspective, a leftist perspective, actually. So we already know that the big money has ALWAYS dominated the world of news and propaganda and sociopolitical-thought in so many ways that it boggles the mind. We know all about the think tanks that feed the media with propaganda so subtle and pervasive that most people never even see it, even though it is all around them.
So we know that if these people took your implied suggestion to transmit ANY submissions at all, and if this p2p TV idea takes off, and becomes a major media outlet, then the Big Money would be all over it with their propaganda. And they would dominate in the p2p TV arena, too.
We aint about to let that happen. So they will, and should, filter the content.