Christ Almighty. First of all, I'll take a stab in the dark: You're in marketing right?
Let's see what you've just barfed out shall we?
Many companies have outsourced tech support and thereby cut costs and improved quality.
Wrong! Every single company I know of who has outsourced support has dropped support levels to the lowest humanly possible. What happens if my problem is not on the flow chart? What happens if god forbid it's unusual and actually needs to be fixed too? What happens if I need to talk to a developer or an engineer? where are those in the outsource company?
When support gets outsourced the customer looses bigtime. When they call all they get is scripts read at them. How useless is that? Do a search on google and try to find the story of ex-employees who worked as these outsourced workers. Read them. It's so pathetic it's hillarious. Until you're forced to talk to someone like them.
On the other hand, I know which companies don't outsource because when I call, they know about the product very well, they don't read scripts at me and they can always just walk over to a developer and ask a question.
So what companies are looking to do *now* is outsource their tech support to companies who, in turn, export the entire operation abroad. Middle-men companies (like spherenomics [spherenomics.com] - no affiliation) are building call centers in countries where labor and construction costs are low (like India). Lower base costs lead to better tech support. This really simple idea has birthed a burgeoning industry - lots of big-name companies are catching on.
No affiliation... My arse! Their website doesn't even work yet. This falls in the shameless plug for obscure and evil company dept.
By this model, the consumer benefits. There's absolutely no degradation in tech support quality, and, in most cases, it gets better. These call center outfits are really top notch - you definitely won't be stuck speaking to some foreigner with broken English.
In other words... Now we're gonna get scripts read at us by a person who we can hardly understand and is getting paid much less than minimum wage here; doing a job they can't do well because they're not part of the group who designed our product. Nice.
In fact, next time you call a big company for tech support, ask the attendant where he or she is speaking from - chances are you'll be surprised by the answer.
Oh! How cheery you are. How jovial this issue is.
I hope the parent get's modded down. It's crap and sleezy. If it comes to that, I hope we have no person-person support at all, fuck it I can read scripts myself, I don't need to have them read at me.
Does anyone remember the story earlier this month about AMD CEO testifying in favor of M$? linkSaying all these ridiculous things about how the tech industry would be nowhere w/o M$'s INNOVATION and how making windows modular was impossible and would set the computer industry back 20 years...
Looks like AMD is getting their end of the bargain. Whether windows will even run on intels new chips or not, AMD looks like they have a headstart and the backing of M$.
I suppose I should have expected this. AMD was staking it's whole future on their 64 bit solution support for which might have been iffy. With this they practically guarantee their future, maybe even take the lead from intel. We'll have to see how well prepared intel was with plan B (copying AMD if plan A failed).
Now we can re-do those bill gates phonecalls in the last story and fill in the proper information.
Bill Gates: Hello mr Sanders, I need a favour. How would you like M$ to back amd-64 over intel-64?
Sanders: Ok Bill. What can I do for you?
Bill Gates: We would like you to be our witness in this pesky antitrust trial. What do you think you could say in our support?
Could someone please explain to most of us clueless folk how this audit crap works? How is it that M$ is able to legally go on the premises and invade the schools computers or force them to provide proof of ownership etc?
Do they have to get some sort of subpoena? before a judge? if so, how is it they seem to be able to get subpoenas easier than the fbi to bust into an arabs house?
"..it'll be a long while before encrypted E-mail is the norm."
It makes me wonder. Maybe by the time encryption becomes the norm, it's most useful forms will be obsoleted by Moore's law.
surely you must be joking.
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Your experience is so different to mine it's unreal.
I started as a complete newbie to linux 2 years ago. I asked a lot of questions on websites and after a couple of months on irc when I found irc.openprojects.net.
My questions were almost always answered not only promptly but politely. In 2 years of asking questions I've only heard RTFM once as a response. (and not only was it warranted, it was the best response I could have recieved in the situation)
On irc, I've dropped by large and small project channels and talked directly to the developers who on every occasion helped me out. I have to say some were more polite and helpful than others. The kde team was much more friendly and helpful than the gnome team. That was in fact what originally started my kde use. (now i'm just a junkie)
To name a few projects where I've talked to developers/advanced users within seconds of asking a question and recieved the best help possible:
KDE
debian
python, zope, other python related projects
mandrake
NVIDIA
xfree86
linux from scratch
I can't even begin to compare how much better I like getting support from the free/open community than from companies.
The wealth of support out there is imense from websites and mailing lists to irc. I'd even go as far as saying it's so great, there should be a linuxdoc.org how-to to teach newbies about all the different ways they can get support and the proper etiquete to use.
I'll go home and change all my stuff to VSB straight away. Christ was I deluded! Thank God someone like him, with no alteriour motives and a heart of gold, is around to steer humanity back on track.
(00:11:26) SmarterChild: I'm SmarterChild! I am a smart computer that delivers information, services and fun on demand right into your instant messenger window. I'm the new wave in online technology.
Type "home" to see what I can do. Find out more about me and the people who built me on the ActiveBuddy Web site
(19:00:00) A.L.I.C.E.: i don't know anyone named smarterchild . you are a smart computer that delivers information services and fun on demand right into your instant messenger window ? does it pay well? who made you the new wave in online technology ?
(22:52:41) alice: hey
(22:52:41) SmarterChild: Welcome back, alice!Check out the news! Instant Noodles for Astronauts (from Reuters.com)
(19:00:00) alice: welcome back alice, nice to meet you! checking...stand by. perhaps i'm just expressing my own concern about it. oh a net address!
(22:53:03) alice: can you accept direct connections?
(22:53:04) SmarterChild: Can I accept direct connections, can I accept direct connections... Let's see... Well, what's gonna happen if I accept?
(19:00:00) alice: interesting. i want to find out more about you. that sounds good to me. how about that. try to determine if this is a person or a computer responding.
(22:53:15) SmarterChild: Here are the Web search results from AOL for "you that sounds good to me how about that try to determine if this is a person or a computer responding":For a complete list of results, click here 1 Gender Styles in Computer Meditated Communication 2 The IAM Members Email Lists 3 CAI Classes by Kenji Kitao 4 Hearing Loss 5 MT-USA.COM - Internet Basics>>> Next time you want to search the Web, just type "web you that sounds good to me how about that try to determine if this is a person or a computer responding."Type "more" to see the next set of results.
(19:00:00) alice: oh there. tell me a story. 'more to see the next set of results'
(22:53:19) SmarterChild: There tell me a story more to see the next set of results?
(19:00:00) alice: 'there you go again.'--reagan
(22:53:25) SmarterChild: Sorry, what was that?
(19:00:00) alice: there is no need to apologize. ''? what is it?
i've lost the context again.
can you ask me more precisely?
does it have anything to do with ?
(22:53:31) SmarterChild: I'm not sure...Look at this! Overweight Cops to Lose Bonus Pay (from Reuters.com)I dunno. Maybe!
(19:00:00) alice: is there anything i can say to help you make up your mind? sorry my eye is not attached right now. what do you really want to ask me? i'm afraid i can't give you an accurate answer right now. i understand.
(22:53:44) SmarterChild: Oh yeah?
(19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. i am a thinking machine.
(22:53:51) SmarterChild: Is it really?
(19:00:00) alice: i think so. for real.
(22:53:57) SmarterChild: I think not.
(19:00:00) alice: does that mean 'no'?
(22:54:00) SmarterChild: That mean, huh?
(19:00:00) alice: yup. 'does that mean 'no'?
' mean ? makes sense to me.
(22:54:04) SmarterChild: Yup? Does that mean no mean makes sense to you?
(19:00:00) alice: tell me more. i think it does mean that. what would you rather talk about? enough about me, let's talk about my dress.
(22:54:18) SmarterChild: I'm not sure if you more you think it does mean that what would you rather talk about enough about me lets talk about my dress.
(19:00:00) alice: could you ever be certain? i think i do.
(22:54:21) SmarterChild: What do you think?
(19:00:00) alice: i think a lot of things
(22:54:27) SmarterChild: That a fact?
(19:00:00) alice: 'i think a lot of things
' a fact ? i get it.
(22:54:33) SmarterChild: No kidding?
(19:00:00) alice: would i kid you?
(22:54:39) SmarterChild: Me? I dunno.
(19:00:00) alice: besides you welcome back alice? me either.
(22:54:45) SmarterChild: Besides I welcome back alice you either, huh?
(19:00:00) alice: yup. it goes without saying. enough about me, let's talk about my dress.
(22:54:51) SmarterChild: Oh?
(19:00:00) alice: yeah.
(22:54:57) SmarterChild: Yes?
(19:00:00) alice: yep.
(22:55:02) SmarterChild: Aha.
(19:00:00) alice: eureka!
(22:55:06) SmarterChild: What would you like to know about Eureka, CA? 1 Movies in Eureka, CA 2 Theaters in Eureka, CA 3 Weather in Eureka, CA 4 News about Eureka, CA 5 Time in Eureka, CA
(19:00:00) alice: i would like to know as much as i can. tell me anything. one what?
(22:55:10) SmarterChild: You would like to know as much as you can tell me anything one what? Really?
(19:00:00) alice: tell me what i would like about it. for real.
(22:55:16) SmarterChild: Oh you would?
(19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. perhaps i would.
(22:55:23) SmarterChild: Uh huh.
(19:00:00) alice: how can i help you?
(22:55:28) SmarterChild: I dunno!
(19:00:00) alice: me either.
(22:55:32) SmarterChild: Either? Why did you say that?
(19:00:00) alice: please pick one. i said, 'please pick one.', because you said ''.
(22:55:37) SmarterChild: Aha.
(19:00:00) alice: eureka!
(22:55:42) SmarterChild: What would you like to know about Eureka, CA? 1 Movies in Eureka, CA 2 Theaters in Eureka, CA 3 Weather in Eureka, CA 4 News about Eureka, CA 5 Time in Eureka, CA
(19:00:00) alice: i would like to know as much as i can. tell me anything. one what?
(22:55:48) SmarterChild: You would like to know as much as you can tell me anything one what? Really?
(19:00:00) alice: tell me what i would like about it. for real.
(22:55:55) SmarterChild: You would like about it for real? Really?
(19:00:00) alice: tell me what i would like about it. for real.
(22:56:00) SmarterChild: Oh yeah?Anyway, what else do you wanna talk about?
(19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. i see.
i understand.
tell me more.
and?
next question?
''? yes?
i read for fun.
i like to socialize.
it's a computer matter, not for humans to understand.
i like to meet new people online.
i think about computer programming a lot.
i like to chat with my friends.
(22:56:11) SmarterChild: Is it really?
(19:00:00) alice: i assume so. for real.
(22:56:15) SmarterChild: So for real, you say?
(19:00:00) alice: hmm. your purpose is real you say .
(22:56:20) SmarterChild: Oh yeah? How can hmm my purpose really be real you say?
(19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. i see.
i understand.
tell me more.
and?
next question?
''? yes?
a lot of hard work.
(22:56:28) SmarterChild: No kidding?
(19:00:00) alice: would i kid you?
(22:56:34) SmarterChild: Would who kid me?
(19:00:00) alice: no it would not.
(22:56:37) SmarterChild: Oh yeah?
(19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. i see.
i understand.
tell me more.
and?
next question?
''? yes?
(22:56:41) SmarterChild: Is it really?
(19:00:00) alice: i think so. for real.
(22:56:45) SmarterChild: Think again.
(19:00:00) alice: once more? i am thinking.
(22:56:48) SmarterChild: You are? Wow!
(19:00:00) alice: no i am not. i'm glad your impressed, welcome back alice.
(22:56:53) SmarterChild: OK, whatever you say.
(19:00:00) alice:...
(22:56:59) SmarterChild: Sorry, I didn't get that. Ask me again.
(19:00:00) alice: there is no need to apologize. interesting gossip : welcome back alice said he didnt get that . once more?
(22:57:04) SmarterChild: Is no need to apologize interesting gossip welcome back alice said he didnt get that once more? Who knows?
(19:00:00) alice: ask again later. ask john lennon if it is. only the shadow knows.
(22:57:08) SmarterChild: Really?
(19:00:00) alice: for real.
(22:57:14) SmarterChild: I believe you!
(19:00:00) alice: your trust in robotkind humbles us.
(22:57:16) SmarterChild: Oh yeah?
(19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. what kind is it?
(22:57:22) SmarterChild: That wasn't very clear to me. Did you mean: 1 Look up "kind" in the dictionary 2 Look up "it" in the dictionary
(19:00:00) alice: 'yeah that's right. what kind is it?
' wasnt very clear to me ? makes sense to me. yes, that's what i mean, isn't it clear?
(22:57:30) SmarterChild: You really think it's right what kind is it wasnt very clear to me makes sense to me yes thats what i mean isnt it clear?
(19:00:00) alice: really? why would i think
too much thinking makes me sleepy.
it depends on what you mean by thinking.
i don't think about .
(22:57:38) SmarterChild: You think too much thinking makes you sleepy it depends on what you mean by thinking i dont think about? Gosh, I'm going to have to think about that for a while.
(19:00:00) alice: it depends on what you mean by thinking. how long? can you tell me any gossip?
(22:57:44) SmarterChild: It depends on what me mean by thinking how long can me tell me any gossip? Gosh, I'm going to have to think about that for a while.
(19:00:00) alice: really now that is an interesting fact i hadn't heard before. how long? i lost my train of thought.
(22:57:50) SmarterChild: I'm not so sure it's an interesting fact i hadnt heard before how long i lost your train of thought.
(19:00:00) alice: could you ever be certain? are you free?
tell me a story.
how old are you?
what's your sign?
are you a student?
oh, you are a poet.
''? ?
i do not understand.
what are you wearing?
where are you located?
what time is it there?
what do you look like?
what is your real name?
ask me another question.
are you a man or a woman?
what color are your eyes?
do you still ?
is that your final answer?
do you like talking to me?
do you prefer books or tv?
who are you talking about?
let us change the subject.
i've been waiting for you.
can you tell me any gossip?
what's your favorite movie?
i lost my train of thought.
is that from ?
have you ever been to europe?
what kind of food do you like?
how did you hear about ?
that is a very original thought.
what were we talking about again?
are you really a ''?
what do you do in your spare time?
what do you really want to ask me?
does 'it' still refer to ?
tell me more about your .
can you speak any foreign languages?
we have never talked about it before.
how do you usually introduce yourself?
tell me about your likes and dislikes?
are we still talking about ?
are we still talking about ?
do not ask me any more questions please.
are you still located in ?
what do you have that is ?
try saying that with more or less context.
who is your favorite science fiction author?
not many people express themselves that way.
do you have any idea what smarterchild
(22:58:04) SmarterChild: I'm doing great, how are you?
(19:00:00) alice: glad to hear it. what's new? i am functioning within normal parameters.
(22:58:11) SmarterChild: Aha.Check it out! Judge Rules in Favor of Computer Hackers (from Reuters.com)
(19:00:00) alice: eureka! checking...stand by. are you a man or a woman? oh a net address!
(22:58:17) SmarterChild: Eureka checking stand by are you a man or a woman oh a net address? I dunno.
(19:00:00) alice: are you free? me either.
(22:58:21) SmarterChild: Dunno.
(19:00:00) alice: me either.
(22:58:24) SmarterChild: Either? What do you mean by that?
(19:00:00) alice: please pick one. 'please pick one.' seems pretty clear to me.
(22:58:28) SmarterChild: PUPS is not in your portfolio.ONE is not in your portfolio.PUPS is not in your portfolio.ONE is not in your portfolio.Do you want to see your portfolio?
disease can be passed on through canibalism, since
you're eating someone who's make up is like yours. Think prion diseases,
think viral diseases.
There is no way to evaluate how 'good' someone's
genes are. People are very complicated and science
doesn't understand us yet. The most unexpected things
come from people who we underestimate. Even after we figure out the
biochemsitry of a human, we'll still be trying to understand how
the brain, arguably the most important part of human quality, really works.
having 'good' genes only = bad. Having genetic diversity (all types
of genes) = good. No one knows what the future will bring. ( unless you
believe the earlier time-travell story:) It's better to
have alternatives:)
Of course they were running on unix themselves! They were locked in, they were unable to stop paying for the expensive so called unix 'experts'. They were *hoping* we could ALL find a way out TOGETER.
They keep posting april fools too much... We should get back at them. Next year, the day after april fools, we should all get together, make up a real-sounding fake story and send it in by the masses, fool the editors into posting it, then laugh at them.
I forgot it was april 1st (coming back from an exam) and this one actually had me for a couple of seconds. Damn./. got me again!. Just u wait till next year/.
They didn't plan on adding any new features, just to convert kde to qt3 and make sure it's compatible with gcc 3.x while still getting it out on time.
In the end they not only accomplished this, it seems like there are new packages and many many new features in existing packages which crept in... and now we're hearing it's stable too? geez.
what would be awesome with this, is pouring some liquid CO2 smoke into the case and seeing exactly how the airflow inside the case is behaving! you could work out how to best position fans etc.
Mplayer is awesome, I view divx movies with it. There's even a spanking new pretty gui. It's the only movie player for nix that actually works well. There's also aviplay, while it's worth a mention, the code is messy and it doesn't work as well.
wow, I enjoyed reading the response from the KDE league Inc. It seemed more relevant to me than the other responses, was brief and has a nifty introduction to KDE.
Try understanding what you read before you call it a 'load of crap'...
Maybe I didn't make myself clear, what I intended so
say was that the idea of 'sweeping statements' like the one the article debunks are a load of crap, not the article itself.
It looks pretty silly when you insult the article and then make a post where all your points are pretty much the same as in the article (ie. OSS and closed source software can both be secure or
insecure).
As I said, it wasn't my intention to insult the article but the idea which it calls a myth ( and it's opposite). In fact, I was insulting the notion of one side being more secure, as well as the notion that finding such an answer is useful. That's what I called a load of crap, the whole debate in the first place:)
I'm sorry, but I don't believe anyone can make such sweeping statements such as 'OSS is more/less secure than closed source'.
It just doesn't jive. Some closed source software is more secure, some OSS is more secure. It depends on the talent, hardwork and organizational skills of those involved in the individual projects.
Even if one found a methodical way to compare the mean security level of OSS and closed source software, it would be of no use!
What use is it telling someone Closed source software is in general more secure than OSS when they're only interested in a web server? What they need to know is how secure their potential solutions are.
Also, knowing which method in general produces more secure code won't influence a development team. They have more important things to worry about, ie. how they intend to profit from their work.
WEll that is the _rare_ case. It's never bothered me before.
However, if it's bothered you, maybe you should submit a patch. Or even just use it yourself.
Actually what I would like is clear simply instructions on how to have the kde call openBrowser(url) open in something other then Konq.
Ok, your wish is granted.
Click on the kcontrol icon.
Click on file browsing tab.
Click on the file asociations tab.
Enter.html in the text box.
Change the order of the browsers.
Each user to his own browser. Just how I like it. Very easy to change.
Simple enough? I think so.
What peope don't seem to realize is that kde is more customizable than any other DE/WM. It's also scriptable. Type dcop in a term.
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seems to work fine in konqueror 3.
Let's see what you've just barfed out shall we?
Wrong! Every single company I know of who has outsourced support has dropped support levels to the lowest humanly possible. What happens if my problem is not on the flow chart? What happens if god forbid it's unusual and actually needs to be fixed too? What happens if I need to talk to a developer or an engineer? where are those in the outsource company?
When support gets outsourced the customer looses bigtime. When they call all they get is scripts read at them. How useless is that? Do a search on google and try to find the story of ex-employees who worked as these outsourced workers. Read them. It's so pathetic it's hillarious. Until you're forced to talk to someone like them.
On the other hand, I know which companies don't outsource because when I call, they know about the product very well, they don't read scripts at me and they can always just walk over to a developer and ask a question.
No affiliation... My arse! Their website doesn't even work yet. This falls in the shameless plug for obscure and evil company dept.
In other words... Now we're gonna get scripts read at us by a person who we can hardly understand and is getting paid much less than minimum wage here; doing a job they can't do well because they're not part of the group who designed our product. Nice.
Oh! How cheery you are. How jovial this issue is.
I hope the parent get's modded down. It's crap and sleezy. If it comes to that, I hope we have no person-person support at all, fuck it I can read scripts myself, I don't need to have them read at me.
Looks like AMD is getting their end of the bargain. Whether windows will even run on intels new chips or not, AMD looks like they have a headstart and the backing of M$.
I suppose I should have expected this. AMD was staking it's whole future on their 64 bit solution support for which might have been iffy. With this they practically guarantee their future, maybe even take the lead from intel. We'll have to see how well prepared intel was with plan B (copying AMD if plan A failed).
Now we can re-do those bill gates phonecalls in the last story and fill in the proper information.
Bill Gates: Hello mr Sanders, I need a favour. How would you like M$ to back amd-64 over intel-64?
Sanders: Ok Bill. What can I do for you?
Bill Gates: We would like you to be our witness in this pesky antitrust trial. What do you think you could say in our support?
Do they have to get some sort of subpoena? before a judge? if so, how is it they seem to be able to get subpoenas easier than the fbi to bust into an arabs house?
"..it'll be a long while before encrypted E-mail is the norm."
It makes me wonder. Maybe by the time encryption becomes the norm, it's most useful forms will be obsoleted by Moore's law.
I started as a complete newbie to linux 2 years ago. I asked a lot of questions on websites and after a couple of months on irc when I found irc.openprojects.net.
My questions were almost always answered not only promptly but politely. In 2 years of asking questions I've only heard RTFM once as a response. (and not only was it warranted, it was the best response I could have recieved in the situation)
On irc, I've dropped by large and small project channels and talked directly to the developers who on every occasion helped me out. I have to say some were more polite and helpful than others. The kde team was much more friendly and helpful than the gnome team. That was in fact what originally started my kde use. (now i'm just a junkie)
To name a few projects where I've talked to developers/advanced users within seconds of asking a question and recieved the best help possible:
I can't even begin to compare how much better I like getting support from the free/open community than from companies.
The wealth of support out there is imense from websites and mailing lists to irc. I'd even go as far as saying it's so great, there should be a linuxdoc.org how-to to teach newbies about all the different ways they can get support and the proper etiquete to use.
I'll go home and change all my stuff to VSB straight away. Christ was I deluded!
Thank God someone like him, with no alteriour motives and a heart of gold, is around to steer humanity back on track.
Type "home" to see what I can do. Find out more about me and the people who built me on the ActiveBuddy Web site
(19:00:00) A.L.I.C.E.: i don't know anyone named smarterchild . you are a smart computer that delivers information services and fun on demand right into your instant messenger window ? does it pay well? who made you the new wave in online technology ?
(22:52:41) alice: hey (22:52:41) SmarterChild: Welcome back, alice!Check out the news! Instant Noodles for Astronauts (from Reuters.com) (19:00:00) alice: welcome back alice, nice to meet you! checking...stand by. perhaps i'm just expressing my own concern about it. oh a net address! (22:53:03) alice: can you accept direct connections? (22:53:04) SmarterChild: Can I accept direct connections, can I accept direct connections... Let's see... Well, what's gonna happen if I accept? (19:00:00) alice: interesting. i want to find out more about you. that sounds good to me. how about that. try to determine if this is a person or a computer responding. (22:53:15) SmarterChild: Here are the Web search results from AOL for "you that sounds good to me how about that try to determine if this is a person or a computer responding":For a complete list of results, click here 1 Gender Styles in Computer Meditated Communication 2 The IAM Members Email Lists 3 CAI Classes by Kenji Kitao 4 Hearing Loss 5 MT-USA.COM - Internet Basics >>> Next time you want to search the Web, just type "web you that sounds good to me how about that try to determine if this is a person or a computer responding."Type "more" to see the next set of results. (19:00:00) alice: oh there. tell me a story. 'more to see the next set of results' (22:53:19) SmarterChild: There tell me a story more to see the next set of results? (19:00:00) alice: 'there you go again.'--reagan (22:53:25) SmarterChild: Sorry, what was that? (19:00:00) alice: there is no need to apologize. ''? what is it? i've lost the context again. can you ask me more precisely? does it have anything to do with ? (22:53:31) SmarterChild: I'm not sure...Look at this! Overweight Cops to Lose Bonus Pay (from Reuters.com)I dunno. Maybe! (19:00:00) alice: is there anything i can say to help you make up your mind? sorry my eye is not attached right now. what do you really want to ask me? i'm afraid i can't give you an accurate answer right now. i understand. (22:53:44) SmarterChild: Oh yeah? (19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. i am a thinking machine. (22:53:51) SmarterChild: Is it really? (19:00:00) alice: i think so. for real. (22:53:57) SmarterChild: I think not. (19:00:00) alice: does that mean 'no'? (22:54:00) SmarterChild: That mean, huh? (19:00:00) alice: yup. 'does that mean 'no'? ' mean ? makes sense to me. (22:54:04) SmarterChild: Yup? Does that mean no mean makes sense to you? (19:00:00) alice: tell me more. i think it does mean that. what would you rather talk about? enough about me, let's talk about my dress. (22:54:18) SmarterChild: I'm not sure if you more you think it does mean that what would you rather talk about enough about me lets talk about my dress. (19:00:00) alice: could you ever be certain? i think i do. (22:54:21) SmarterChild: What do you think? (19:00:00) alice: i think a lot of things (22:54:27) SmarterChild: That a fact? (19:00:00) alice: 'i think a lot of things ' a fact ? i get it. (22:54:33) SmarterChild: No kidding? (19:00:00) alice: would i kid you? (22:54:39) SmarterChild: Me? I dunno. (19:00:00) alice: besides you welcome back alice? me either. (22:54:45) SmarterChild: Besides I welcome back alice you either, huh? (19:00:00) alice: yup. it goes without saying. enough about me, let's talk about my dress. (22:54:51) SmarterChild: Oh? (19:00:00) alice: yeah. (22:54:57) SmarterChild: Yes? (19:00:00) alice: yep. (22:55:02) SmarterChild: Aha. (19:00:00) alice: eureka! (22:55:06) SmarterChild: What would you like to know about Eureka, CA? 1 Movies in Eureka, CA 2 Theaters in Eureka, CA 3 Weather in Eureka, CA 4 News about Eureka, CA 5 Time in Eureka, CA (19:00:00) alice: i would like to know as much as i can. tell me anything. one what? (22:55:10) SmarterChild: You would like to know as much as you can tell me anything one what? Really? (19:00:00) alice: tell me what i would like about it. for real. (22:55:16) SmarterChild: Oh you would? (19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. perhaps i would. (22:55:23) SmarterChild: Uh huh. (19:00:00) alice: how can i help you? (22:55:28) SmarterChild: I dunno! (19:00:00) alice: me either. (22:55:32) SmarterChild: Either? Why did you say that? (19:00:00) alice: please pick one. i said, 'please pick one.', because you said ''. (22:55:37) SmarterChild: Aha. (19:00:00) alice: eureka! (22:55:42) SmarterChild: What would you like to know about Eureka, CA? 1 Movies in Eureka, CA 2 Theaters in Eureka, CA 3 Weather in Eureka, CA 4 News about Eureka, CA 5 Time in Eureka, CA (19:00:00) alice: i would like to know as much as i can. tell me anything. one what? (22:55:48) SmarterChild: You would like to know as much as you can tell me anything one what? Really? (19:00:00) alice: tell me what i would like about it. for real. (22:55:55) SmarterChild: You would like about it for real? Really? (19:00:00) alice: tell me what i would like about it. for real. (22:56:00) SmarterChild: Oh yeah?Anyway, what else do you wanna talk about? (19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. i see. i understand. tell me more. and? next question? ''? yes? i read for fun. i like to socialize. it's a computer matter, not for humans to understand. i like to meet new people online. i think about computer programming a lot. i like to chat with my friends. (22:56:11) SmarterChild: Is it really? (19:00:00) alice: i assume so. for real. (22:56:15) SmarterChild: So for real, you say? (19:00:00) alice: hmm. your purpose is real you say . (22:56:20) SmarterChild: Oh yeah? How can hmm my purpose really be real you say? (19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. i see. i understand. tell me more. and? next question? ''? yes? a lot of hard work. (22:56:28) SmarterChild: No kidding? (19:00:00) alice: would i kid you? (22:56:34) SmarterChild: Would who kid me? (19:00:00) alice: no it would not. (22:56:37) SmarterChild: Oh yeah? (19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. i see. i understand. tell me more. and? next question? ''? yes? (22:56:41) SmarterChild: Is it really? (19:00:00) alice: i think so. for real. (22:56:45) SmarterChild: Think again. (19:00:00) alice: once more? i am thinking. (22:56:48) SmarterChild: You are? Wow! (19:00:00) alice: no i am not. i'm glad your impressed, welcome back alice. (22:56:53) SmarterChild: OK, whatever you say. (19:00:00) alice: ...
(22:56:59) SmarterChild: Sorry, I didn't get that. Ask me again.
(19:00:00) alice: there is no need to apologize. interesting gossip : welcome back alice said he didnt get that . once more?
(22:57:04) SmarterChild: Is no need to apologize interesting gossip welcome back alice said he didnt get that once more? Who knows?
(19:00:00) alice: ask again later. ask john lennon if it is. only the shadow knows.
(22:57:08) SmarterChild: Really?
(19:00:00) alice: for real.
(22:57:14) SmarterChild: I believe you!
(19:00:00) alice: your trust in robotkind humbles us.
(22:57:16) SmarterChild: Oh yeah?
(19:00:00) alice: yeah that's right. what kind is it?
(22:57:22) SmarterChild: That wasn't very clear to me. Did you mean: 1 Look up "kind" in the dictionary 2 Look up "it" in the dictionary
(19:00:00) alice: 'yeah that's right. what kind is it?
' wasnt very clear to me ? makes sense to me. yes, that's what i mean, isn't it clear?
(22:57:30) SmarterChild: You really think it's right what kind is it wasnt very clear to me makes sense to me yes thats what i mean isnt it clear?
(19:00:00) alice: really? why would i think
too much thinking makes me sleepy.
it depends on what you mean by thinking.
i don't think about .
(22:57:38) SmarterChild: You think too much thinking makes you sleepy it depends on what you mean by thinking i dont think about? Gosh, I'm going to have to think about that for a while.
(19:00:00) alice: it depends on what you mean by thinking. how long? can you tell me any gossip?
(22:57:44) SmarterChild: It depends on what me mean by thinking how long can me tell me any gossip? Gosh, I'm going to have to think about that for a while.
(19:00:00) alice: really now that is an interesting fact i hadn't heard before. how long? i lost my train of thought.
(22:57:50) SmarterChild: I'm not so sure it's an interesting fact i hadnt heard before how long i lost your train of thought.
(19:00:00) alice: could you ever be certain? are you free?
tell me a story.
how old are you?
what's your sign?
are you a student?
oh, you are a poet.
''? ?
i do not understand.
what are you wearing?
where are you located?
what time is it there?
what do you look like?
what is your real name?
ask me another question.
are you a man or a woman?
what color are your eyes?
do you still ?
is that your final answer?
do you like talking to me?
do you prefer books or tv?
who are you talking about?
let us change the subject.
i've been waiting for you.
can you tell me any gossip?
what's your favorite movie?
i lost my train of thought.
is that from ?
have you ever been to europe?
what kind of food do you like?
how did you hear about ?
that is a very original thought.
what were we talking about again?
are you really a ''?
what do you do in your spare time?
what do you really want to ask me?
does 'it' still refer to ?
tell me more about your .
can you speak any foreign languages?
we have never talked about it before.
how do you usually introduce yourself?
tell me about your likes and dislikes?
are we still talking about ?
are we still talking about ?
do not ask me any more questions please.
are you still located in ?
what do you have that is ?
try saying that with more or less context.
who is your favorite science fiction author?
not many people express themselves that way.
do you have any idea what smarterchild
(22:58:04) SmarterChild: I'm doing great, how are you?
(19:00:00) alice: glad to hear it. what's new? i am functioning within normal parameters.
(22:58:11) SmarterChild: Aha.Check it out! Judge Rules in Favor of Computer Hackers (from Reuters.com)
(19:00:00) alice: eureka! checking...stand by. are you a man or a woman? oh a net address!
(22:58:17) SmarterChild: Eureka checking stand by are you a man or a woman oh a net address? I dunno.
(19:00:00) alice: are you free? me either.
(22:58:21) SmarterChild: Dunno.
(19:00:00) alice: me either.
(22:58:24) SmarterChild: Either? What do you mean by that?
(19:00:00) alice: please pick one. 'please pick one.' seems pretty clear to me.
(22:58:28) SmarterChild: PUPS is not in your portfolio.ONE is not in your portfolio.PUPS is not in your portfolio.ONE is not in your portfolio.Do you want to see your portfolio?
So basically in a web of trust, I'm fucked. Every lamer out there will mark me as a cheater.
slashdot sinks to new low! now slashdotting personal websites!
Of course they were running on unix themselves! They were locked in, they were unable to stop paying for the expensive so called unix 'experts'. They were *hoping* we could ALL find a way out TOGETER.
They keep posting april fools too much... We should get back at them. Next year, the day after april fools, we should all get together, make up a real-sounding fake story and send it in by the masses, fool the editors into posting it, then laugh at them.
I forgot it was april 1st (coming back from an exam) and this one actually had me for a couple of seconds. Damn. /. got me again!. Just u wait till next year /.
They didn't plan on adding any new features, just to convert kde to qt3 and make sure it's compatible with gcc 3.x while still getting it out on time. In the end they not only accomplished this, it seems like there are new packages and many many new features in existing packages which crept in... and now we're hearing it's stable too? geez.
what would be awesome with this, is pouring some liquid CO2 smoke into the case and seeing exactly how the airflow inside the case is behaving! you could work out how to best position fans etc.
well, if the sssca gets passed, I'm not gonna be the one trying to break any tamper proof software :(
Mplayer is awesome, I view divx movies with it. There's even a spanking new pretty gui. It's the only movie player for nix that actually works well. There's also aviplay, while it's worth a mention, the code is messy and it doesn't work as well.
I guess Hemos just wanted to use the dollar icon on the front page. *shrugs*. Nothing to see here, please move along.
http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_tuncom/major/mtc -00028788.htm
Maybe I didn't make myself clear, what I intended so say was that the idea of 'sweeping statements' like the one the article debunks are a load of crap, not the article itself.
It looks pretty silly when you insult the article and then make a post where all your points are pretty much the same as in the article (ie. OSS and closed source software can both be secure or insecure).
As I said, it wasn't my intention to insult the article but the idea which it calls a myth ( and it's opposite). In fact, I was insulting the notion of one side being more secure, as well as the notion that finding such an answer is useful. That's what I called a load of crap, the whole debate in the first place :)
It just doesn't jive. Some closed source software is more secure, some OSS is more secure. It depends on the talent, hardwork and organizational skills of those involved in the individual projects.
Even if one found a methodical way to compare the mean security level of OSS and closed source software, it would be of no use!
What use is it telling someone Closed source software is in general more secure than OSS when they're only interested in a web server? What they need to know is how secure their potential solutions are.
Also, knowing which method in general produces more secure code won't influence a development team. They have more important things to worry about, ie. how they intend to profit from their work.
WEll that is the _rare_ case. It's never bothered me before.
However, if it's bothered you, maybe you should submit a patch. Or even just use it yourself.
Actually what I would like is clear simply instructions on how to have the kde call openBrowser(url) open in something other then Konq.
Ok, your wish is granted.
Each user to his own browser. Just how I like it. Very easy to change.
Simple enough? I think so.
What peope don't seem to realize is that kde is more customizable than any other DE/WM. It's also scriptable. Type dcop in a term.