Check the parent or grandparent post. The laws of thermodymanics are cool and everything, and way fun to quote and all, but the average game console consumer isn't likely to be familiar with them. Much less worry about them when placing their shiny new console in the same place their old XBox was.
The point is, if it's something that can happen, it's simply bad design. It doesn't seem like negligence as this guy is stating, just that the 360 gets hot enough that it doesn't quite fit the target environment of the device. It's not the end of the world, but it's not the epitome of good design either.
Since we're concerned about how it could be possible that MS could BREAK THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS to bring a next-gen console to your living room, let's examine your fridge. I bet it puts out a hell of a lot of heat, and normally it gets shoved in a corner or even a box cut out for it. Well, engineers designed huge radiating pipes, and fans and thermostats and whatnot. It's loud as hell usually (try putting your fridge in your bedroom at night and see) but that's the tradeoff we're willing to take in that environment. If MS cannot currently make an XBox 360 that has all this 'next generation performance' AND fit it where your old XBox went, then it should be clearly noted that this particular box, although it performs the same function as your old one (playing games) it requires you to actually think about things like heat.
I can't help but think that at least one hardware engineer had his XBox overheat. Although he spends all day thinking of heat dissipation and ICs, he didn't really consider something designed for an entertainment center could not be used in such.
The case. Finding a mini-itx case that looks nice for under $150 is a bitch. You probably want some kind of storage too, be it flash or HDD based. Other than that, you list is entirely what I'm attempting to do to extend my Myth system.
It's less than year before the release of the revolution? Wow. Didn't think there was a release date yet. The only fact I've heard is that it's less than a year before we know when the details of what we may know might be released. That's not what I call a release date though.
Yep. That's the route I'm trying to go. I have a bunch of concerns about it though.
Can I get a mini-itx board that I can use as a frontend in my living room? It has to have a bunch of multimedia features on-board and usuable by linux. Such as:
1) Decent accelerated video, hopefully capable of showing HDTV content (my LCDTV is running VGA at 1280x750 or something) 2) At least 5.1 surround sound AND NO ANNOYING FEEDBACK (I constantly have feedback problems, no matter how expensive my wiring is, or how elaborately I try to avoid interference) 3) Space for an optical drive (I'm hoping to find a nice slot loading slimdrive) 4) USB Support for remote (I.e. ports in the back) 5) Fanless, or damn near silent
Optionally, a fully featured media-reader would complete the set (not just compact flash). I have one a bought at a local chain store for $8 that actually came with linux drivers. It's usb, and works magnificently, but it's ugly to set next to the box.
Oh, and it has to not cost a bajillion dollars. Seems like the actual case is the hardest part, the EPIA Nehemia board looks to fit the bill, and is relatively cheap.
I'm frustrated with my findings thus far, but it seems like new solutions are slowly starting to crop up.
I know I know. I'm not oblivious to the fact that any time we try someone for murder it should take as long as necessary. I was just frustrated by that statistic.
All my sibling posters talk about physical location being the key, but I recall it being more temporally specific. If I remember from my 1980s knowledge of fair-use copying, it was the *use* of the item that was in question. I.e. I could make a bajillion copies as long as no more than one of them was being *used* at the same time.
Then again, my memory is bad, and I'm on my third drink of the night, so fuggit.
My god I had to scroll forever to find someone that brought up this point. How can *any* single entity file that many lawsuits and not be considered as abusing the system? Doing simple math, that's like 20 lawsuits a day!!!
No wonder it takes two years for a murder suspect to stand trial, 23 months to deal with the paperwork of RIAA lawsuits, one month to pick a date everyone can agree on that ain't a holiday.
I love America, but baby, sometimes you make my blood boil.
I'm still looking for a good, cheap thin-client solution. Just for myself, so I can put terminals in unused rooms of the house. Most of the ones I've seen for cheap are proprietary or just plain el cheapo.
What I would *really* love, is a thin client that can stream mpegs from my mythbox. I remember reading about some hauppauge thingummy, but it seemed it had to be hacked and wasn't all that stable.
You don't happen to have any ffmpeg examples that output something I can play on my 2.0 PSP do you? I'm sick of delving into the internals of video format with little success.
As to the PS2Linux, Kudos to you. I had it for awhile, and the PS2 made a nifty media box, but it was easier to build a smaller x86 box to supplant that need, so I sold it. Thanks to ebay, I got more than I paid for it, and it was two years old.
No I dont think a console dies after a year or two, but people love shiny and forget "a year ago" like it was something anthropologist should study. There is really no reason to buy a 360 right now, other than the fact it's new, yet sell they do. I was thinking if Nintendo waited a bit, they would have the shiny on their side in addition to having good games.
As to sucky specs, I never said that, but I don't think poly-pushing is where nintendo is going with the revolution. Were it to launch at the same time as the PS3, I think that graphically speaking the Rev would be the duller of the two.
I know. Thank gawd they told me about that. At first, I was going to dimiss this game anyway due to the cigarette smoking. Then I realized it was cigarette smoking *by adults* which is of course just fine. If it wasn't for the urinating, I might have actually bought this one.
Dear Rampant Parents with Too Much Time,
If a game comes along that shows a child smoking, please IM me and I will obviously join your march to ban not only video games but any television with the possible exception of Donna Reed.
(sidebar:This is my third post I think/. has lost. I had to resubmit to find it, and two others are completely missing)
I know. Thank gawd they told me about that. At first, I was going to dimiss this game anyway due to the cigarette smoking. Then I realized it was cigarette smoking *by adults* which is of course just fine. If it wasn't for the urinating, I might have actually bought this one.
Dear Rampant Parents with Too Much Time,
If a game comes along that shows a child smoking, please IM me and I will obviously join your march to ban not only video games but any television with the possible exception of Donna Reed.
I finally had to upgrade to 2.0 to play GTA. That's as far as I'll go from now on. I absolutely *cannot* get a video out of ffmpeg (or anything in linux for that matter) to play on my PSP anymore. Everything was working swimmingly and now the damn thing won't play a peep. If anyone has any help (why is there not 30 hits from google on the subject?) please feel free to respond.
That's the first time I heard anyone even think Nintendo would miss two XMas seasons. I don't know where you come up with that, given the this announcement will be in may, plenty of time to make an '06 holiday season.
However, it got me to thinking. What if Nintendo did skip a season? Sometimes you need to leave your crop fields fallow. What if Nintendo didn't compete *at all* with Sony and MS, and launched in mid '07? Then Nintendo could would not be facing two powerhouse consoles, but two aging systems. Their hardware could easily be better and cheaper to make than Sony/MS, and there would be absolutely nothing the competitors could do. You can't launch a console and then launch the next generation a year later. It's cutting the throat of your market.
I don't know what all that would mean, other than disappointed geeks, myself included, but it's an interesting thought.
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It's been brought up, many times. The answer is that we really don't know yet, and can't really tell until we have more data. A lot of these recently noticed (medical research speaking) injuries are do to the very cramped nature of inputs our hands have been forced upon in modern times.
It's entirely possibly that naturally waving one hand and pushing one or two buttons in a 2' range will result in less injuries than unnaturally cramping all ten fingers to reach all 10 different buttons, two analog sticks and a d-pad in a 2" range.
Yeah, they go all crazy with the math figuring out proper voltage, but no one whips out the Einsteinian Grand Unified Fluffyness equations. Lazy engineers.
I so hate my PSPs dead pixels. After three returns I settled on two dead and two half-dead. It didn't bother me too much until now. Now that there is a couple of games to play on the thing. Stating that the dead pixels were a normal part of the process I found the biggest insult yet. Nothing informative here, just one guy's bitterness.
I actually prefer something seperate, preferrably USB for ease of use. The reason is you can actually hide the *entire* HTPC, and just have the simple IR reciever out. My first mythbox, an Shuttle, is somewhat attractive, but easily fits behind a door in shelf-system. Cut out some extra ventilation holes and you have the best looking HTPC ever, one that you never see.
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Check the parent or grandparent post. The laws of thermodymanics are cool and everything, and way fun to quote and all, but the average game console consumer isn't likely to be familiar with them. Much less worry about them when placing their shiny new console in the same place their old XBox was.
The point is, if it's something that can happen, it's simply bad design. It doesn't seem like negligence as this guy is stating, just that the 360 gets hot enough that it doesn't quite fit the target environment of the device. It's not the end of the world, but it's not the epitome of good design either.
Since we're concerned about how it could be possible that MS could BREAK THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS to bring a next-gen console to your living room, let's examine your fridge. I bet it puts out a hell of a lot of heat, and normally it gets shoved in a corner or even a box cut out for it. Well, engineers designed huge radiating pipes, and fans and thermostats and whatnot. It's loud as hell usually (try putting your fridge in your bedroom at night and see) but that's the tradeoff we're willing to take in that environment. If MS cannot currently make an XBox 360 that has all this 'next generation performance' AND fit it where your old XBox went, then it should be clearly noted that this particular box, although it performs the same function as your old one (playing games) it requires you to actually think about things like heat.
I can't help but think that at least one hardware engineer had his XBox overheat. Although he spends all day thinking of heat dissipation and ICs, he didn't really consider something designed for an entertainment center could not be used in such.
As to the guy suing, he's going a bit overboard.
The case. Finding a mini-itx case that looks nice for under $150 is a bitch. You probably want some kind of storage too, be it flash or HDD based. Other than that, you list is entirely what I'm attempting to do to extend my Myth system.
It's less than year before the release of the revolution? Wow. Didn't think there was a release date yet. The only fact I've heard is that it's less than a year before we know when the details of what we may know might be released. That's not what I call a release date though.
Yep. That's the route I'm trying to go. I have a bunch of concerns about it though.
Can I get a mini-itx board that I can use as a frontend in my living room? It has to have a bunch of multimedia features on-board and usuable by linux. Such as:
1) Decent accelerated video, hopefully capable of showing HDTV content (my LCDTV is running VGA at 1280x750 or something)
2) At least 5.1 surround sound AND NO ANNOYING FEEDBACK (I constantly have feedback problems, no matter how expensive my wiring is, or how elaborately I try to avoid interference)
3) Space for an optical drive (I'm hoping to find a nice slot loading slimdrive)
4) USB Support for remote (I.e. ports in the back)
5) Fanless, or damn near silent
Optionally, a fully featured media-reader would complete the set (not just compact flash). I have one a bought at a local chain store for $8 that actually came with linux drivers. It's usb, and works magnificently, but it's ugly to set next to the box.
Oh, and it has to not cost a bajillion dollars. Seems like the actual case is the hardest part, the EPIA Nehemia board looks to fit the bill, and is relatively cheap.
I'm frustrated with my findings thus far, but it seems like new solutions are slowly starting to crop up.
I know I know. I'm not oblivious to the fact that any time we try someone for murder it should take as long as necessary. I was just frustrated by that statistic.
Burden of going losing your job to go to court everyday for six months to fight it is on good old mom.
Burden of food is on the children, who will now need to learn street-savvy skills to raise themselves, and club rats for food.
But yeah, it's totally the burden of proof for the RIAA.
All my sibling posters talk about physical location being the key, but I recall it being more temporally specific. If I remember from my 1980s knowledge of fair-use copying, it was the *use* of the item that was in question. I.e. I could make a bajillion copies as long as no more than one of them was being *used* at the same time.
Then again, my memory is bad, and I'm on my third drink of the night, so fuggit.
My god I had to scroll forever to find someone that brought up this point. How can *any* single entity file that many lawsuits and not be considered as abusing the system? Doing simple math, that's like 20 lawsuits a day!!!
No wonder it takes two years for a murder suspect to stand trial, 23 months to deal with the paperwork of RIAA lawsuits, one month to pick a date everyone can agree on that ain't a holiday.
I love America, but baby, sometimes you make my blood boil.
I'm still looking for a good, cheap thin-client solution. Just for myself, so I can put terminals in unused rooms of the house. Most of the ones I've seen for cheap are proprietary or just plain el cheapo.
What I would *really* love, is a thin client that can stream mpegs from my mythbox. I remember reading about some hauppauge thingummy, but it seemed it had to be hacked and wasn't all that stable.
You don't happen to have any ffmpeg examples that output something I can play on my 2.0 PSP do you? I'm sick of delving into the internals of video format with little success.
As to the PS2Linux, Kudos to you. I had it for awhile, and the PS2 made a nifty media box, but it was easier to build a smaller x86 box to supplant that need, so I sold it. Thanks to ebay, I got more than I paid for it, and it was two years old.
Nice, but I needed a Linux solution :(
I want to convert my MythTv videos and moving 2GB files around the network is a hassle.
No I dont think a console dies after a year or two, but people love shiny and forget "a year ago" like it was something anthropologist should study. There is really no reason to buy a 360 right now, other than the fact it's new, yet sell they do. I was thinking if Nintendo waited a bit, they would have the shiny on their side in addition to having good games.
As to sucky specs, I never said that, but I don't think poly-pushing is where nintendo is going with the revolution. Were it to launch at the same time as the PS3, I think that graphically speaking the Rev would be the duller of the two.
I know. Thank gawd they told me about that. At first, I was going to dimiss this game anyway due to the cigarette smoking. Then I realized it was cigarette smoking *by adults* which is of course just fine. If it wasn't for the urinating, I might have actually bought this one.
/. has lost. I had to resubmit to find it, and two others are completely missing)
Dear Rampant Parents with Too Much Time,
If a game comes along that shows a child smoking, please IM me and I will obviously join your march to ban not only video games but any television with the possible exception of Donna Reed.
(sidebar:This is my third post I think
I know. Thank gawd they told me about that. At first, I was going to dimiss this game anyway due to the cigarette smoking. Then I realized it was cigarette smoking *by adults* which is of course just fine. If it wasn't for the urinating, I might have actually bought this one.
Dear Rampant Parents with Too Much Time,
If a game comes along that shows a child smoking, please IM me and I will obviously join your march to ban not only video games but any television with the possible exception of Donna Reed.
I finally had to upgrade to 2.0 to play GTA. That's as far as I'll go from now on. I absolutely *cannot* get a video out of ffmpeg (or anything in linux for that matter) to play on my PSP anymore. Everything was working swimmingly and now the damn thing won't play a peep. If anyone has any help (why is there not 30 hits from google on the subject?) please feel free to respond.
That's the first time I heard anyone even think Nintendo would miss two XMas seasons. I don't know where you come up with that, given the this announcement will be in may, plenty of time to make an '06 holiday season.
However, it got me to thinking. What if Nintendo did skip a season? Sometimes you need to leave your crop fields fallow. What if Nintendo didn't compete *at all* with Sony and MS, and launched in mid '07? Then Nintendo could would not be facing two powerhouse consoles, but two aging systems. Their hardware could easily be better and cheaper to make than Sony/MS, and there would be absolutely nothing the competitors could do. You can't launch a console and then launch the next generation a year later. It's cutting the throat of your market.
I don't know what all that would mean, other than disappointed geeks, myself included, but it's an interesting thought.
It's been brought up, many times. The answer is that we really don't know yet, and can't really tell until we have more data. A lot of these recently noticed (medical research speaking) injuries are do to the very cramped nature of inputs our hands have been forced upon in modern times.
It's entirely possibly that naturally waving one hand and pushing one or two buttons in a 2' range will result in less injuries than unnaturally cramping all ten fingers to reach all 10 different buttons, two analog sticks and a d-pad in a 2" range.
Bottom line, jury's still out.
"...have a fear of commit."
My god you can't even see it through to the end of the word. That is definetly a fear.
"... inherent fluffyness of the carpet ..."
Yeah, they go all crazy with the math figuring out proper voltage, but no one whips out the Einsteinian Grand Unified Fluffyness equations. Lazy engineers.
I so hate my PSPs dead pixels. After three returns I settled on two dead and two half-dead. It didn't bother me too much until now. Now that there is a couple of games to play on the thing. Stating that the dead pixels were a normal part of the process I found the biggest insult yet. Nothing informative here, just one guy's bitterness.
I'm glad I upgraded to 2.0 also. I'm using the web browser right now, and it is fan--OUT OF MEMORY--
Well Solid Snake wasn't released, but Metal Gear certainly was, and was on every U.S. gamers definitive Top 10.
I actually prefer something seperate, preferrably USB for ease of use. The reason is you can actually hide the *entire* HTPC, and just have the simple IR reciever out. My first mythbox, an Shuttle, is somewhat attractive, but easily fits behind a door in shelf-system. Cut out some extra ventilation holes and you have the best looking HTPC ever, one that you never see.
unless it's billed as "128 MB USB stick (with Barenaked Ladies songs)" instead of "Barenaked Ladies songs (on a USB stick)."
Oh. My. God. Although true, your statement makes me want to die while attempting to eat my television. Society, what have you become?
Damn ACs beating me to my obvious and cheap punchlines.