Nice tirade, Liberal sympathizer. You are like all the Libarals/Tories I've ever met.
To address your comments, I will just say that if Paul Martin wins, it will be because the people of Canada are stupid, which goes without saying after the Red Book, GST and Free Trade. Ask Paul about Iraq! Ask him about his corporate tax evasion! Ask him why we have to pay GST! Ask him why we have a Homeland Security Dept. now! Ask him why a top Canadian general is running things in Iraq when the majority of Canada says NO to the war!!
Ask and see what he says. I'm sure it will be very diplomatic and polished... not the kind of response you would expect from someone being truly candid.
"Just because you oppose something, doesn't mean everything you do is satire."
If this paulmartintime.ca site isn't political satire and a tool for change or accountability, I don't know what is. The Liberals are only seeking to shut them down because they don't like what they are doing. If they were cheering Paul Martin on, would there be a lawsuit?
No.
So that in itself means the Liberals are only doing this because they dislike the message, not because of any real copyright infringement.
First off, I'll start by suggesting you think about the whole nature of this parody. They squatted this site as a political rouse, to hold into account a questionable leader, a leader who is very right wing, compared to other moderate center Liberal leaders from the days of yore.
"Firstly, we don't elect our Prime Ministers; ever. We elect our local Members of Parliment, who from their ranks elect a leader. So by the logic of the submitee, all of our Prime Ministers have been un-elected. Therefore the point is moot, and should not have been mentioned."
That being said, is true, but are you suggesting that when you vote for your riding's liberal, you are considering them and their qualities, and not the party leader? That's why Kim Campbell lost so bad after Brian Mulroney retired... because the Tories suffered from her lack of leadership.
When 99.9% of the people in Canada vote, it's like this: 1. Pick the Party 2. Rethink #1
You see? The leader is why people vote for the party, so in a sense, Paul Martin is unelected because nobody thought about him on E Day.
The voters thought about the terrible ad the tories ran that made fun of Jean Chretien's droopy mouth.
They took pity on Jean Chretien, or they were angry with the tories for doing the ad, so they voted him in.
Oh yeah, and the Red Book had a huge effect too. Notice how nothing suggested in it was ever done?
Someone who voted for Jean Chretien's Liberals could have sued them for faulty advertising, but those sort of cases don't ususally go anywhere (because judges have too much to gain from political alliances)
I was in geek heaven during the whole movie. I saw things in Return of the King I have never seen in a movie before. The rich story blends perfectly with the FX to make them almost real. Even with all the bloopers, it's believable (I didn't notice them). I don't think that anyone will come close to the quality that is Return of the King for ten years. They might get better tech running the show, but nothing like the sheer wonder between the cast, story, crew and director in RotK.
"how you gonna send a new car over an internet connection" Well that will be the next unvailed technology, won't it? Why shouldn't teleporters or replicators be possible? If they were, you see, society would have to find a way to price each bowl of soup that came out. Walmart entering the music downloading has basically hardened it as a permanent infrastructure. That was my point.:)
With Wal Mart entering the fray with music downloading, pretty soon we will have mp3 networks pumping our inboxes with free music if we sign up for these really good offers. It's official. Our economy has now vaporized into the electronic economy; expect a downturn on physical object sales and an upturn on non-tangible sales. Services will replace ownership and the middle class will vanish, and the poor will not own anything while the rich will own everything. All because Wal Mart decided to compete in online mp3 sales. It's the beginning of a standardized, McDonald's style cookie-cutter industry in an intangible form. Without the costs associated with shipping and manufacture, industry can charge more and reap more profit. Soon we will be required to do much more intangible stuff than we do, and there will be industry waiting to take our money to help us (give them money for no reason other than to give them money).
This is nothing new really, and as Marshal Berman said, All that is Solid, Melts into Air. ( BooK: Amazon )
Copyright is not a misnomer; it means the right to copy. It would not be illegal, and if someone was arrested for downloading Photoshop (and I have not heard of one case of this), they could use the defence that they beleived they were permitted to do so by law. The thing with copyright laws, is that it's very difficult to prevent them from blanketing an entire industry, and if they apply to one industry, it is difficult (but not impossible) to disclude them from another.
So your bitching is a great use of a technical forum? In case you didn't RTFA yourself, you would have seen that this is supposed to be a fun Christmas story, not a technical one. Lighten up.
The 12 days of christmas are up 18.8 percent from the last year because of a war in Iraq, and horrible Bush spending this year. Rub that together with the greedy marketing guys everywhere, and you have increases accross the board. The psychology of parenting is such that most people will attempt to provide the best possible Christmas or Haunnukah for their loved ones, even if it means they spent 20% extra this year, and even if it killed them, their credit rating or family doing so.
"If I wrote a program that allowed users to put a CD into their CD-ROM drive and allow other users to rip a copy of that CD over the Internet, would that be legal? It looks to me like it might be."
You are my HERO. Let me know if you want some help or a PHP coder/scriptor/dbguy.
"P2P downloading is legal under Canadian law." I knew I was Canadian for a reason! Time to go download Photoshop and all the mp3s I want. And in other news, I'm getting medicinal marijuana for my sleep apnea. I'm going to be happy as a pig in shit! I might even *think* I'm a pig in shit.
I suggest to Mr. Kerr, that he consider BYOCD (bring your own CD). Users could burn their own cdroms from a plethora of projects that meet a particular library criteria, for quality and safety.
It might be smart for libraries to offer two methods for achieving this:
1) Library burns cds on demand for a small fee. 2) Users burn cds themselves.
Having actual cdroms on a shelf for people to "check out", as it were, is likely a bad idea for a number of reasons. The large volume of cds occupying shelves would be a copy of the old library system, so it would likely be their default method, but it's incorrect, imho; it's a waste of space; it goes against the mighty electronic way. Burning on demand is the way to go because the open source community could ensure that the most recent versions of software are available, and that fresh new content would flow into libraries everywhere, rather than fill up shelves until the place has no more room.
Stop gaps could be issued at the base system, to prevent abuse, and this would be much easier if the product was electronic.
If only criminals have cruise missles, at least they would take proper care to only aim and detonate them at targets of their choice.
If Joe-the-inbred-yankie has a cruise missle, what's stopping the US citizens from firing a bunch of home made missles at Canada for the hell of it?
A gun doesn't affect a country necessarily, but a cruise missle or enough cruise missles could be considered an act of war, even if the President did not declare war!
Think about it. What if a hundred people in northern New York had cruise missles and aimed them at Ottawa?
That is the kind of thing that makes for great B movies!!!:)
And our scene unfolds with Bradley A. Buckles, with a stormtrooper hitsquad of RIAA goons...
Buckles (over blowhorn): "YOU MUSIC WHORING PIRATES, SEND THE MP3s AND OGGs OUT FIRST OR WE'LL BURN YOUR COMMUNIST MUSIC SHARING COMPOUNDS TO THE GROUND, WOMEN AND CHILDREN BE DAMNED!!!!"... and the war on freedom rages on.
Windows 98? But they are on XP now... So I guess it's no big deal. How does this harm Microsoft? Win98 is (was) a nice and stable gaming platform, but XP is very stable for gaming too. This counts as a win on the record, but it's still too little too late, imho. Sun should be awarded more rights over *current* and *future* Microsoft products, as a penalty. This could get interesting!
I saw this coming for years. Black Isle was the only group under Interplay's banner that was producing anything worthwhile, and they were suffocated systematically by Interplay, a floundering and financially risky company.
I will always remember Black Isle in fondness, and yet I can't help but cite that the delay of Fallout 3, a suitable version comparable to Fallout and Fallout 2, has to be ultimately responsible for the dissolution of this company.
The fans have been begging for Fallout 3 for years now and Interplay and Black Isle have chosen to ignore our pleas.
The money follows the means and the message of the people.
I think you misunderstood my intention. Killing in any reason is wrong, imho. The fact that science allows us to prove in some facts, be them scientific or otherwise, is proof that science is the path of reason, while religious thinkings often are the flights of fantasy, based in greed or some other sin of the heart.
I'm not knocking religious factions who set out only to do good. Just the ones who set out to do evil.
"Eventually, the working class will have had enough, and that's when the future US history books will become really interesting." There is no evidence to support this. The poor have been poor for ages and lived that way for ages. Even New Rich are stuck in spirals of habitual patterns going back since the stone age that lead them back to the poor house.
So instead of one band of idiots and their bloodline ruling class running the country, we have a million idiots voting in someone who has all the money?
Bush would not have been elected if he failed to raise the funds to get elected. Politics is not about people -- it's about $$$.
Come on. There is no difference between the ruling class of five hundred years ago, and the one that is in today. Today, the ruling class isn't necessarily related, so we don't have as much inbreeding going on, but after that, there's not much difference between George Bush and King Henry VII.
I'm sure Bush has even killed a few of his concubines and the CIA covered it up!:)
Bush rigged the election, stole power and now is going to give round two a go. You'll vote for him or the other guy, but it won't matter. They are both in the same ruling class.
If anything, it's worse because now that we have shareholders, we have a bunch of poor people with lots of money on paper. But they still have to scrape to get by.
If Bush gave 100% of his profits for elections to a worthy cause, they would be elevated to ruling class, and their cause would suffer the same as it does now. Nobody wants to wipe out poverty because it's profitable.
If poverty wasn't profitable, it'd be gone in two fucking seconds.
Biometrics could totally be messed with. I can think of a hundred ways to mess with them. Start with simple magnetic underwear and work your way up to skin-suits with other-peoples-DNA.
Technology can always be worked around. When are you people going to get it through your sick heads that you can't and never will have a secure universe?
One of the fundamental laws of this universe is that it is predatory in nature. So why are putting stock in anything that claims to be safe?
Suppose Biometrics become a staple. Now imagine the spammers get a hold of your key.
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Nice tirade, Liberal sympathizer. You are like all the Libarals/Tories I've ever met.
To address your comments, I will just say that if Paul Martin wins, it will be because the people of Canada are stupid, which goes without saying after the Red Book, GST and Free Trade. Ask Paul about Iraq! Ask him about his corporate tax evasion! Ask him why we have to pay GST! Ask him why we have a Homeland Security Dept. now! Ask him why a top Canadian general is running things in Iraq when the majority of Canada says NO to the war!!
Ask and see what he says. I'm sure it will be very diplomatic and polished... not the kind of response you would expect from someone being truly candid.
"Just because you oppose something, doesn't mean everything you do is satire."
If this paulmartintime.ca site isn't political satire and a tool for change or accountability, I don't know what is. The Liberals are only seeking to shut them down because they don't like what they are doing. If they were cheering Paul Martin on, would there be a lawsuit?
No.
So that in itself means the Liberals are only doing this because they dislike the message, not because of any real copyright infringement.
First off, I'll start by suggesting you think about the whole nature of this parody. They squatted this site as a political rouse, to hold into account a questionable leader, a leader who is very right wing, compared to other moderate center Liberal leaders from the days of yore.
"Firstly, we don't elect our Prime Ministers; ever. We elect our local Members of Parliment, who from their ranks elect a leader. So by the logic of the submitee, all of our Prime Ministers have been un-elected. Therefore the point is moot, and should not have been mentioned."
That being said, is true, but are you suggesting that when you vote for your riding's liberal, you are considering them and their qualities, and not the party leader? That's why Kim Campbell lost so bad after Brian Mulroney retired... because the Tories suffered from her lack of leadership.
When 99.9% of the people in Canada vote, it's like this:
1. Pick the Party
2. Rethink #1
You see? The leader is why people vote for the party, so in a sense, Paul Martin is unelected because nobody thought about him on E Day.
The voters thought about the terrible ad the tories ran that made fun of Jean Chretien's droopy mouth.
They took pity on Jean Chretien, or they were angry with the tories for doing the ad, so they voted him in.
Oh yeah, and the Red Book had a huge effect too. Notice how nothing suggested in it was ever done?
Someone who voted for Jean Chretien's Liberals could have sued them for faulty advertising, but those sort of cases don't ususally go anywhere (because judges have too much to gain from political alliances)
*sigh*
What democracy?
And the video game...
Cell Shading: BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I was in geek heaven during the whole movie. I saw things in Return of the King I have never seen in a movie before. The rich story blends perfectly with the FX to make them almost real. Even with all the bloopers, it's believable (I didn't notice them). I don't think that anyone will come close to the quality that is Return of the King for ten years. They might get better tech running the show, but nothing like the sheer wonder between the cast, story, crew and director in RotK.
"how you gonna send a new car over an internet connection" :)
Well that will be the next unvailed technology, won't it? Why shouldn't teleporters or replicators be possible? If they were, you see, society would have to find a way to price each bowl of soup that came out. Walmart entering the music downloading has basically hardened it as a permanent infrastructure. That was my point.
With Wal Mart entering the fray with music downloading, pretty soon we will have mp3 networks pumping our inboxes with free music if we sign up for these really good offers. It's official. Our economy has now vaporized into the electronic economy; expect a downturn on physical object sales and an upturn on non-tangible sales. Services will replace ownership and the middle class will vanish, and the poor will not own anything while the rich will own everything. All because Wal Mart decided to compete in online mp3 sales. It's the beginning of a standardized, McDonald's style cookie-cutter industry in an intangible form. Without the costs associated with shipping and manufacture, industry can charge more and reap more profit. Soon we will be required to do much more intangible stuff than we do, and there will be industry waiting to take our money to help us (give them money for no reason other than to give them money).
This is nothing new really, and as Marshal Berman said, All that is Solid, Melts into Air. ( BooK: Amazon )
Okay slashdotters, no Independence Day (give them a cold) references.
Copyright is not a misnomer; it means the right to copy. It would not be illegal, and if someone was arrested for downloading Photoshop (and I have not heard of one case of this), they could use the defence that they beleived they were permitted to do so by law. The thing with copyright laws, is that it's very difficult to prevent them from blanketing an entire industry, and if they apply to one industry, it is difficult (but not impossible) to disclude them from another.
So your bitching is a great use of a technical forum? In case you didn't RTFA yourself, you would have seen that this is supposed to be a fun Christmas story, not a technical one. Lighten up.
The 12 days of christmas are up 18.8 percent from the last year because of a war in Iraq, and horrible Bush spending this year. Rub that together with the greedy marketing guys everywhere, and you have increases accross the board. The psychology of parenting is such that most people will attempt to provide the best possible Christmas or Haunnukah for their loved ones, even if it means they spent 20% extra this year, and even if it killed them, their credit rating or family doing so.
"If I wrote a program that allowed users to put a CD into their CD-ROM drive and allow other users to rip a copy of that CD over the Internet, would that be legal? It looks to me like it might be."
You are my HERO. Let me know if you want some help or a PHP coder/scriptor/dbguy.
"P2P downloading is legal under Canadian law."
I knew I was Canadian for a reason! Time to go download Photoshop and all the mp3s I want. And in other news, I'm getting medicinal marijuana for my sleep apnea. I'm going to be happy as a pig in shit! I might even *think* I'm a pig in shit.
I suggest to Mr. Kerr, that he consider BYOCD (bring your own CD). Users could burn their own cdroms from a plethora of projects that meet a particular library criteria, for quality and safety.
It might be smart for libraries to offer two methods for achieving this:
1) Library burns cds on demand for a small fee.
2) Users burn cds themselves.
Having actual cdroms on a shelf for people to "check out", as it were, is likely a bad idea for a number of reasons. The large volume of cds occupying shelves would be a copy of the old library system, so it would likely be their default method, but it's incorrect, imho; it's a waste of space; it goes against the mighty electronic way. Burning on demand is the way to go because the open source community could ensure that the most recent versions of software are available, and that fresh new content would flow into libraries everywhere, rather than fill up shelves until the place has no more room.
Stop gaps could be issued at the base system, to prevent abuse, and this would be much easier if the product was electronic.
If only criminals have cruise missles, at least they would take proper care to only aim and detonate them at targets of their choice.
:)
If Joe-the-inbred-yankie has a cruise missle, what's stopping the US citizens from firing a bunch of home made missles at Canada for the hell of it?
A gun doesn't affect a country necessarily, but a cruise missle or enough cruise missles could be considered an act of war, even if the President did not declare war!
Think about it. What if a hundred people in northern New York had cruise missles and aimed them at Ottawa?
That is the kind of thing that makes for great B movies!!!
And our scene unfolds with Bradley A. Buckles, with a stormtrooper hitsquad of RIAA goons...
... and the war on freedom rages on.
Buckles (over blowhorn): "YOU MUSIC WHORING PIRATES, SEND THE MP3s AND OGGs OUT FIRST OR WE'LL BURN YOUR COMMUNIST MUSIC SHARING COMPOUNDS TO THE GROUND, WOMEN AND CHILDREN BE DAMNED!!!!"
I applaud the use of rocket science at home, but I don't think the general public should have cruise missles.
Windows 98? But they are on XP now...
So I guess it's no big deal. How does this harm Microsoft? Win98 is (was) a nice and stable gaming platform, but XP is very stable for gaming too. This counts as a win on the record, but it's still too little too late, imho. Sun should be awarded more rights over *current* and *future* Microsoft products, as a penalty. This could get interesting!
Okay who do I make this out to? Crap, AC doesn't have a UID... I put UID:0 and it said Thanks! and ran off with my money. :(
I saw this coming for years. Black Isle was the only group under Interplay's banner that was producing anything worthwhile, and they were suffocated systematically by Interplay, a floundering and financially risky company.
I will always remember Black Isle in fondness, and yet I can't help but cite that the delay of Fallout 3, a suitable version comparable to Fallout and Fallout 2, has to be ultimately responsible for the dissolution of this company.
The fans have been begging for Fallout 3 for years now and Interplay and Black Isle have chosen to ignore our pleas.
The money follows the means and the message of the people.
I think you misunderstood my intention. Killing in any reason is wrong, imho. The fact that science allows us to prove in some facts, be them scientific or otherwise, is proof that science is the path of reason, while religious thinkings often are the flights of fantasy, based in greed or some other sin of the heart.
I'm not knocking religious factions who set out only to do good. Just the ones who set out to do evil.
"Eventually, the working class will have had enough, and that's when the future US history books will become really interesting."
There is no evidence to support this. The poor have been poor for ages and lived that way for ages. Even New Rich are stuck in spirals of habitual patterns going back since the stone age that lead them back to the poor house.
So instead of one band of idiots and their bloodline ruling class running the country, we have a million idiots voting in someone who has all the money?
:)
Bush would not have been elected if he failed to raise the funds to get elected. Politics is not about people -- it's about $$$.
Come on. There is no difference between the ruling class of five hundred years ago, and the one that is in today. Today, the ruling class isn't necessarily related, so we don't have as much inbreeding going on, but after that, there's not much difference between George Bush and King Henry VII.
I'm sure Bush has even killed a few of his concubines and the CIA covered it up!
Bush rigged the election, stole power and now is going to give round two a go. You'll vote for him or the other guy, but it won't matter. They are both in the same ruling class.
If anything, it's worse because now that we have shareholders, we have a bunch of poor people with lots of money on paper. But they still have to scrape to get by.
If Bush gave 100% of his profits for elections to a worthy cause, they would be elevated to ruling class, and their cause would suffer the same as it does now. Nobody wants to wipe out poverty because it's profitable.
If poverty wasn't profitable, it'd be gone in two fucking seconds.
Biometrics could totally be messed with. I can think of a hundred ways to mess with them. Start with simple magnetic underwear and work your way up to skin-suits with other-peoples-DNA.
Technology can always be worked around. When are you people going to get it through your sick heads that you can't and never will have a secure universe?
One of the fundamental laws of this universe is that it is predatory in nature. So why are putting stock in anything that claims to be safe?
Suppose Biometrics become a staple. Now imagine the spammers get a hold of your key.
Add water.
Stir.
What about SCO interns?