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Napster To Be Acquired by Google?

YesSir writes "The New York Post claims that Google is considering an alliance or possibly an acquisition of Napster. Rather then starting their own, Google could jump start their music service with the help of Napster. Napster's share price soared more than 30 percent as a result of the report that they are in discussions with Google." From the article: " The company in January told Reuters that it was not on the block. 'The company is not looking to be sold, the management is not looking to step out. It's simply not true,' a Napster spokesman said on Jan. 23. Last week, Napster, founded by college student Shawn Fanning and was once synonymous with the pirating of music, laid off 10 managers." More information available from C|Net. Update: 01/31 19:16 GMT by Z : A Reuters article has Google denying that it has plans to acquire Napster or start a music store anytime soon.

138 comments

  1. Isn't that really Roxio who bought the name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Napster, founded by college student Shawn Fanning, as far as I can tell doesn't really exist any more. AFAIR Roxio bought it because they had a brand that meant "mediocre software" and wanted a brand/name that meant "cool".

    1. Re:Isn't that really Roxio who bought the name? by Kittyflipping · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes. They bought the software 'Pressplay' and renamed it to 'Napster'.

    2. Re:Isn't that really Roxio who bought the name? by value_added · · Score: 2, Funny

      Napster, founded by college student Shawn Fanning, as far as I can tell doesn't really exist any more. AFAIR Roxio bought it because they had a brand that meant "mediocre software" and wanted a brand/name that meant "cool".

      Yeah, but did you know that Shawn Fanning didn't invent Napster?

      It's true.

    3. Re:Isn't that really Roxio who bought the name? by abandonment · · Score: 4, Funny

      not only this, but napster uses Microsoft Windows Media technology for ALL of it's downloads - including the MS DRM solution.

      Google buying them is as unlikely as...[insert favorite conspiracy theory here]

    4. Re:Isn't that really Roxio who bought the name? by ezeecheez · · Score: 1
      Shawn Fanning, as far as I can tell doesn't really exist any more

      He still exists; you'll probably see him on the next season of VH-1's Surreal Life, aka the rest home for pathetic has-beens.

  2. First post! by BestNicksRTaken · · Score: 0, Troll

    I wonder if Google will be nice and make it all free again like the good old days.

    Or will they keep the Winamp disk-out hack.

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  3. Yay! by Malevolyn · · Score: 1

    Finally! No more annoying Napster commercials.

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  4. Gnapster is for you! by cybrthng · · Score: 4, Funny

    Coming to a GNu world gnear you! You can google your songs, google your bands, you can even joing mygooglespace to talk to people and we will watch everything you do so we can recommend gnew music to you as well!

    We gnow what you gneed

    1. Re:Gnapster is for you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I prefer "Goopster" myself.

    2. Re:Gnapster is for you! by dl107227 · · Score: 1

      Google, the WalMart of the internet.

    3. Re:Gnapster is for you! by dangitman · · Score: 1

      But the real question is - can I download Lucy Liu from Google? Is the DRM compatible with my Mac-formatted blank robot?

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  5. Idiots by cdrguru · · Score: 5, Informative

    This "Napster" is not the company founded by Shawn Fanning. This is the company that was formerly known as Roxio that sold off all of their software assets to Sonic and then hired Shawn Fanning and bought the name Napster.

    This company has been mismanaged from the moment it was spun off from Adaptec. This would not surprise me in the least, but unfortunately it is probably a really good move for the current Napster folks. They will make out like bandits.

    1. Re:Idiots by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      Shawn Fanning's first incarnation of Napster went completely bankrupt after the lawsuits. How did he get to keep ownership of his trademark? I would have thought the bankruptcy court would have made him auction off the trademark.

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  6. Google already denied the rumor by satchmodian · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google already came out and denied any involvement with napster, according to this

    1. Re:Google already denied the rumor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because they're too busy trying to find the cure for cancer....

    2. Re:Google already denied the rumor by piquadratCH · · Score: 1
      Google already denied the rumor

      So it is true, then...

    3. Re:Google already denied the rumor by southpolesammy · · Score: 1
      Hmmm.....

      1. Buy large amount of XYZ
      2. Spread rumor that Google is buying XYZ
      3. ...
      4. Profit!!!
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    4. Re:Google already denied the rumor by imoou · · Score: 1

      There's no plans to acquire Napster, nor to develop a music store at this time, but no one is denying Google is talking with Napster, and there are still two possibilities left:

      1. Alliance as speculated
      2. Investment, like Baidu.com

      3. Confirmation will be made after Google employees have acquired enough of Napster's shares.

  7. Again? by Kesch · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is it just me, or can you not go a day on Slashdot without hearing that google is trying to reach into a new market?

    I'm already ahead of the curve; I have faced the inevitable and sewn "Google" into the tag on my underwear.

    So what will this new service be named. Noogle? Gnapster? Goopster? Goosic(As in Google Music)? Or the best combination og Music+Google: Moogle!

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    1. Re:Again? by grungebox · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have faced the inevitable and sewn "Google" into the tag on my underwear.
       
      Puts a whole new spin on the "I'm Feeling Lucky" search, eh?

    2. Re:Again? by dotpavan · · Score: 2, Funny

      the "beta" tag puts a better spin :)

    3. Re:Again? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

      The best part is hes still got the original 50 invites to give to people.

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    4. Re:Again? by Aqws · · Score: 2, Funny

      Um, sorry but you are not ahead of the curve by sewing Google into your underwear, they already sell them.

    5. Re:Again? by Jamil+Karim · · Score: 1

      Sure, that's a perk, but the "targetted" advertising can hurt...

    6. Re:Again? by DarthVain · · Score: 1

      my vote is for Gnapster! Bc that is what the evil purple smurfs say... "GNAP!" Somehow poetic justice for the company that said "Do no evil" and now that statement seems a bit dubious with the censorship in china etc.... Perhaps they were bitten "GNAP!"

    7. Re:Again? by corbettw · · Score: 1

      If I had the time and the talent, I would soooo work up a spoof page saying that Google is in talks to buy VA Software. Just seems so appropriate, somehow.

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    8. Re:Again? by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      Gnapster - I actually like the sound of that. Kinda reminiscent of "Gnab Gib"...

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    9. Re:Again? by Kesch · · Score: 1

      My nerd-foo is strong today. I didn't even have to click the link to know what a Gnab Gib was. Don't worry people, it's nothing important, like, say... the end of the Universe. I'm off to Milliways now.

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    10. Re:Again? by sd_diamond · · Score: 1

      I'm already ahead of the curve; I have faced the inevitable and sewn "Google" into the tag on my underwear.

      So what will this new service be named. Noogle? Gnapster? Goopster?

      Please don't ever again use the word "Goopster" in an article mentioning your underwear.

    11. Re:Again? by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      Or the best combination [of] Music+Google: Moogle!

      Moogle!

  8. These stories are getting annoying.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Let's wait for official world of an imminent buyout before we start pissing over ourselves with inane discussions. That's two in a row today.

  9. Too many google rumors.... by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remember earlier this month, we had this: this. I've even heard people rumor that Google will be building a Space Elevator. Where do these people come up with this stuff? Who knows, this one could be right, but there's still a lot of these out there.

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    1. Re:Too many google rumors.... by Lispy · · Score: 1

      Except that a space evlevator would be cool! Somehow this reminds me off the Transmeta rumors back then (you know the website with the hidden message in the source HTML?) , oh, those were the days. Somehow us geeks need stuff to dream about, Google seems to be the saviour of the day...

    2. Re:Too many google rumors.... by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 1

      Except that a space evlevator would be cool!

      Yup, I agree. It just doesn't exactly fit into anything Google's doing. Maybe it will Sergei Brin's 20% time personal project?

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  10. Actually... by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Funny

    The napster acquisition is further down the list. Next up is Cisco after they've acquired Nintendo. The whole shebang will be paid for after the Goobuntu Vista project comes to fruition.

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    1. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the freaking NY Post, I'm surprised they didn't report all that in the same article.

  11. Yeah... er... no. by pperon · · Score: 2, Informative

    From Reuters: A spokesman at Google's Mountain View, California headquarters was not immediately available to comment. However, a spokeswoman in Google's U.K. office told Reuters, "I can completely deny the report." "No, we have no plans at this time to develop a music store, or to compete with existing online and offline music retailers," the spokeswoman said in a prepared statement."

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  12. Denied! by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 5, Informative

    Google said: "We have no plans to acquire Napster, nor do we have plans to develop a music store at this time." 13:01 EST

    1. Re:Denied! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Source please?

    2. Re:Denied! by Churla · · Score: 1

      And your source for this amazingly fixed width denial? I would say you should cite your references or be considered meaningles rabble.

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    3. Re:Denied! by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      There is no music in the Googleplex. The music is committing suicide at the gates of Mountain View.

    4. Re:Denied! by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

      sigh.. I did put the time of the wire service release. Considering your post is 90 minutes later and an hour after mine, maybe you could have checked any finance site first?

  13. Awesome! by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 1

    I've got both my shuffle and mini ready!
    Can't wait!

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  14. Ummm... by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is this only news because Google is supposedly not buying Napster?

    How is Napster even relevant anymore?

    Raise your hand if you use Napster's service.
    Now everyone who has iTunes, raise your hand.

    Napster was the first on the market with a pay-for-music service and they still couldn't turn that into a leading position.

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    1. Re:Ummm... by BewireNomali · · Score: 1

      that's cause they don't make an ipod, dude.

      just curious: how many IPODS do you have. Be honest.

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    2. Re:Ummm... by StupidHelpDeskGuy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I use both. Napster is a great way to preview whole tracks or albums. Itunes I use for buying a copy to have. Napster is slow, but other than that, it's pretty cool for 10 bucks a month. The ultimate device would allow you to play what you want, where you want, when you want it. I know it can be done with current tech, but I'm talking about directly out of the box functionality. I would happily pay for that service.

    3. Re:Ummm... by finkployd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They have managed to sell themselves to a lot of Universities. The basic idea is that the University pays $x per student (well, they student pays in reality) and the service is licensed to any and all of the University's population.

      Finkployd

    4. Re:Ummm... by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      My understanding was that the large universities that had negotiated such agreements were essentially paying a RIAA tax so that they'd stop getting those pesky legal letters.

      Some of those major Unis had to create a "copyright compliance officer" as a result of the DMCA & the RIAA flooded those officers with notices... to the point that the "officer" turned into an office.

      It was cheaper to sign up all the students for Napster than to continue the way they were.

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    5. Re:Ummm... by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 1

      And that $x per student is going into a service locked exclusively into MS Windows.

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  15. competing against iTunes by cashman73 · · Score: 1
    Considering a recent Slashdot story about an analyst's predictions that Google may be gearing up to compete against iTunes, combined with their recent launch of Google Video, I think they may be on to something.

    And of course, combined with the fact that Microsoft is also interested in this market, I think 2006 could turn out to be the year of video and music downloading.

    1. Re:competing against iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, have you seen the Google Video store? If Google sold music though the store they wouldn't be a threat to Napster, yet alone Apple.

    2. Re:competing against iTunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google Video, in its current beta form, sucks. Wake me up in 2009 when it's finally released and has fewer bugs.

    3. Re:competing against iTunes by ClearlyPennsylvania · · Score: 1

      As I recall, that "prediction" was not in fact a predication. It was simply a statement that it would make sense for Google to do this. Congrats - you found some guy who thinks Google should create a music store. If I find some guy who'll say that it makes sense for Google to create an OS, does that mean that they are? Oh, wait, that's probably how this rumor got started.

  16. Napster hoping for a miracle? by Kefaa · · Score: 1

    If you were sitting in Napster's corporate offices in December, you were probably wondering what was worse, the quick death you thought you would get or the slow painful fall into nothingness you seemed to find.

    Now, if Google is really interested, they cannot come out and say "please save us." They need, like SCO, to keep at least the illusion that they are viable so the price does not plummet before they can sell.

    I do wonder though, what does Google get out of this?

  17. In other news... by RyoShin · · Score: 1, Informative

    Amongst many of the rumors lately, one has come to the forefront, and may be the end or beginning of us all.

    According to the International Herald, God plans to acquire George Bush. More specifically, they state, God intends to acquire the office of President of the United States, and use that to help turn more people towards His Will, as well as enacting greater protection for national forests.

    "Absolutely crazy," stated Vice President Dick Cheney, caught between heart surgeries. "God has never talked to us. Uh, well, myself. Ol' George says he's heard a few snippets here and there, but I'm not too sure."

    However, the International Herald sticks by their piece, claiming to get the news from a source they would only name as "Gabriel".

    We were unable to contact God before press time.

    (I realize stock prices rise and fall based on the Rumor of the Day, but it's been crazy lately.)

    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....while some people believe that this might have already happened!

    2. Re:In other news... by dangitman · · Score: 1
      "Absolutely crazy," stated Vice President Dick Cheney, caught between heart surgeries.

      Technically, upgrading an android's internal components is not surgery - it's only called surgery when you operate on a living being.

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  18. This reminds me of... by Eightyford · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This reminds me of the spending spree done by tech companies during the stock price boom of the late 90's. Google has now found themselves with a shit load of cash, and they figure they better do something with it before people realise how overvalued the stock is.

    1. Re:This reminds me of... by Shakes268 · · Score: 0

      EXACTLY!

      Google is an over-valued company - most people just can't see it right now because of the "cool" factor that is Google and the awe of the stock price.

      Back in the middle of the bubble we saw article after article of company gobbling up company after company. It's happening again.

  19. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What exactly are you buying from Google Video, and why?

  20. Seems that Google's main strategy is... by The_Hun · · Score: 1

    ...leaking tips about its future strategy (like that previous news), and confusing the competition.

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  21. When is he planning on graduating??? by dbleoslow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Napster, founded by college student Shawn Fanning...

    He must be having trouble chossing a major. I suggest something involving computers.

  22. Google rumours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Seems google is about to buy everything.

    Google CEO visits Vatican. Share price in Catholicism rocket.

  23. And it shall be called ... by kitzilla · · Score: 1

    ... Goopster, to go with the vaporic Goobuntu. Goo and Goop as far as the eye can see.

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  24. Oh Thank God. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's been, like, thirty minutes since the last Google story and I was really starting to Jones out.

    Thanks for the Google fix.

  25. Stop the whining, just give up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google FOR PRESIDENT!

  26. Google Digest? Googleback? by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hey editors...if you're going to insist on a news story every time someone from Google gets up and makes a peanut butter sandwich, can you at least give us a Digest version?

    You know...instead of 3 (or more- it's only lunchtime so far) stories a day about Google, ONE Googleback?

    If you think I'm joking, you're right. What I really want is a section for just Google, so that I can click the "NOT ON MY HOMEPAGE" checkbox.

    While you're at it, I'd also like a "web logs" section, so that I can block crap like "Boing-Boing gets a scary letter from a 15 year old kid who 'called the FBI on them for harassment on the intar-web'".

  27. Doesn't Nap run on MS DRM? by scottsk · · Score: 1

    Isn't Napster just a me-too user of MS's DRM like everyone else? It's just a brand name slapped on top of MS's proprietary (but free-as-in-koolaid) media system, right? Why would Google buy technology (they sure don't want the logo/brand) based on lock-in to a MS proprietary DRM layer? Aren't they trying to unseat MS?

  28. raphsody is more popular by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    But I suppose that would make napster cheaper than rahsody which is $10 a month.

    I bought my Ipod because of Itunes and I now realize there are much chaper alternatives. Its a wonder why napster never caught on? Price is alot cheaper than Itunes. But with google behind it I am sure it would become popular.

    I am waiting for a google movie/audio player. Microsoft has monopolized the market which is a shame. Windows is now required to watch porn with some codecs which is hurting Linux. The only alternative is the crappy realplayer but no one seems to use it anymore.

    1. Re:raphsody is more popular by westlake · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Windows is now required to watch porn with some codecs which is hurting Linux.

      What hurts Linux is the success of DRM'd media rentals and sales. When one click synchronizes your downloads to multiple devices, high-def for your plasma TV, low-def for the backseat of your SUV, the list grows to millions of tracks and titles, perhaps the entire RIAA and MPAA catalog, and the monthly fees remain within budget, no one will give a damn about "freedom."

    2. Re:raphsody is more popular by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      I thought it was just me who got this one...

      Windows XP Media Edition, XP Media Connect, XBox 360, and several 3rd-party gizmos, linked with portable players, and powered by Windows Media DRM and sync technology. I don't care if I paid &pound;0.79 for a track if it's 'just there' on everything.

      Apple need to get their Video AirPort sorted to keep competition for this 'unified media' thing alive. I personally think Apple have the upper hand, since one of their strong points is making things just work.

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  29. cahnge in strategy by pvt_medic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think what gave google the initial boost was just how it came up with its own way of doing things and how it tried to be unique. Goodle products were made by google people, and many of them were a result of employees just thinking up new ways to do things. Sure not always it was ground breaking, but they tried approaching challenges with a different perspective. If google starts buying up areas that it wants to expand to it will loose its charm. I think they are already beginning to face this challenge and loose some popularity because of their actions. Google wake up, every thing you do now is going to be scrutinized.

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  30. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by lilmouse · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unclear strategy.

    Heh. If it's unclear, it's because they want it to be unclear.

    <tin foil hat>It's all part of the plan to Take Over the World!!</hat>

    Seriously, tho - Google doesn't want ppl to know what their plans are. Never have.

    --LWM

  31. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry but I'm starting to think that it's just becoming a trend to claim Google is buying this or that and doing this or that. Soon the biggest /. story will be how Google is buying Bill Gates so they can market their own version of Windows for the censored Chinese?!?!

  32. Noogle, Gnapster, Googster, Naggle & Napoogle by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Funny

    The company in January told Reuters that it was not on the block. "The company is not looking to be sold, the management is not looking to step out. It's simply not true," a Napster spokesman said on Jan. 23.

    NAPSTER HQ
    DATELINE: LOS ANGELES
    January 31, 2006
    We are sad to report that the same spokesman was seen earlier today being taken out by stretcher crying,
    "It can't be...it's simply not true! It's not truuuuuueeee!!"
    Napster will neither confirm or deny anything until the stock price hits double digits.

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  33. Re:Google Digest? Googleback? by generic-man · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just uncheck YRO. If I wanted to see fake lawyers yelling at each other I'd watch The People's Court.

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  34. Google : buy Napster ? No, we're not *that* evil. by javaxman · · Score: 1
    I thought for a minute that this rumor might be true. I mean, since Google has decided it's not too evil to help the Chinese government censor the internet, what would the harm be in peddling badly DRM'd music ?

    But then I realized, no way. Google might be evil now, but they didn't suddenly become stupid as well... they're more likely to buy a company that could possibly become profitable. Which pretty much excludes Napster.

  35. apparently.. by dotpavan · · Score: 1

    a search for the keyword "google" on google.com shows slashdot as the first result!

    1. Re:apparently.. by yabba-dabba-do · · Score: 1

      NOT! Not even in the top 10.

    2. Re:apparently.. by dotpavan · · Score: 1

      this is the worst part, explaining a lame/dead joke: Slashdot hit the all-time-high of Google stories, that even searches for google were leading to slashdot.. hmmn? maybe I should take my day off and get back to sleep

    3. Re:apparently.. by yabba-dabba-do · · Score: 1

      Sorry, my bad. I'll try to stay more up to date.

  36. Wrong rumor... by Fr05t · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know how this all got mixed up, but I am closely involved in Google's next acquisition. To bring all of these silly rumors to rest I am proud to formally announce that Google is going to buy my WANG.

    That's right, it will be by invite only in it's beta stage next week.

    1. Re:Wrong rumor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will be interesting to see how the incorporate Ad Words.

    2. Re:Wrong rumor... by dotpavan · · Score: 1
      ..Google is going to buy my WANG...

      Just like it boosted Napster's shares, this acquisition might boost your chances to get laid..

  37. Microsoft Killer! by pete.com · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh man Microsoft is finished now!!!

  38. Oh Sweet Jesus by bryanporter · · Score: 1

    Please make this true.

  39. No kidding. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It almost looks like Google's chief contribution to the world will be the invention of the single-company bubble.

  40. The real question here... by dbucowboy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The real question here is why these goofy stories are getting posted every time... I'm going to submit a story about Google opening a college for the lazy and gullible...

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  41. The buffet is losing out to a la carte by Y-Crate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When the iTunes store first opened, a lot of people at /. bitched and moaned about how terrible it was that you were forced to buy individual songs or albums. Who would want to do that when you can pay a monthly fee and listen to everything in the catalog with a subscription service?

    As it turns out, a lot of people actually.

    The "all you can eat" method sounds great in theory, but the tracks from the major subscription services are often saddled with layers of rules and restrictions well beyond those you find with iTunes. Extra fees for moving them to portable music devices, extra fees for burning them to CDs and oh yeah...when you stop paying your monthly fee, everything goes away. Hundreds of dollars over years gone with one missed payment. All that money and you own absolutely *nothing*.

    iTunes is not perfect, iTunes has problems. The artists do get far, far less than they should, but that is due to the way the contracts are written between the labels and the artists. Yes, you are restricted to playing (but not storing) the songs to any 5 computers at once (which you can change as often as you like). No, Steve Jobs can't lower the prices to 10 cents a track like you so often hear the uninformed claim. Yes, you can put the songs on as many iPods as you want without restriction. No, you can't get higher-bitrate tracks even though that should be an option. Etc.

    At the end of the day, however...you can buy one song for 99 cents and that song will be there for you to play today, tomorrow and next year, the year after, etc. Wherever you want, whenever you want. You can buy that one song, buy 1,000 songs it doesn't matter. You only pay when you want to pay, and you don't feel compelled to justify what you spend each month, because unlike Napster and the Yahoo! Music Store, you only get what you pay for, and you only pay for what you get.

    The dominance of the iPod, and its incompatibility with the other services is only part of the reason iTunes' competition is withering on the vine. People want to feel like they are left with something at the end of the day, and iTunes delivers that better than anyone else.

    1. Re:The buffet is losing out to a la carte by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People want to feel like they are left with something at the end of the day, and iTunes delivers that better than anyone else.

      Let me guess, you are a member of the Black Turtlneck Mafia?

    2. Re:The buffet is losing out to a la carte by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, iTunes got about everything the other music services has minus subscription. And you magically says it's better.

      For offering less?!?

      Can you elaborate on that please...

    3. Re:The buffet is losing out to a la carte by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "and oh yeah...when you stop paying your monthly fee, everything goes away. Hundreds of dollars over years gone with one missed payment. All that money and you own absolutely *nothing*." If you are going to make criticism at least understand how the system works. If you miss a payment, you can simply pay again next month *and still get all the songs you had before*. What you are saying happens doesn't make any sense. Lets say I join netflix, if I miss a month's payment, when I join back I don't have to do something to build back up to having access to netflix's full catalog: the same thing applies here. So it's not if you miss *a* month; it's if you quit subscribing permenantly.

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    4. Re:The buffet is losing out to a la carte by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
      When the iTunes store first opened, a lot of people at /. bitched and moaned about how terrible it was that you were forced to buy individual songs or albums.
      No. No, they didn't. The response was, in fact, quite enthusiastic.
    5. Re:The buffet is losing out to a la carte by ejp1082 · · Score: 1

      It's a subscription model for music, no different than paying for cable TV, except you get the bonus of having content "on demand" rather than being limited by networks and time slots.

      Not everyone gives a hoot about "owning" the music. Especially given that you get sick of any given track after a while anyway. It also makes DRM a lot more palatable - I don't think I can ever really *own* anything with DRM on it, but I'd care a lot less if all I'm doing is subscribing to a service.

      Personally, I think all these services in their current state suck and it'll be a long time coming before I spend a dime on one - but when I do I'd be a lot more likely to go for a subscription service than something like iTunes.

  42. Re:Google Digest? Googleback? by dolphinlover · · Score: 1

    Good advice, yet if my eyes do not deceive me, the Boing Boing fiasco is listed under IT and not YRO...

  43. Google by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 1

    Google google google google. Google, google google. Google google. Google sexy lingerie google, google google google. Google!

    (bit of a Google overload today)

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  44. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by Zemplar · · Score: 1

    "Google isn't fun anymore (tm). Unclear strategy. Bows for dictators. New pathetic services like Google Video.

    What's next?"


    Perhaps Google could hire Carly Fiorina as CEO and buy back Compaq?

    Time to short Googles over priced stock!

  45. Re:Vorbis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    uh no.

    Google's motto is "Don't be evil". It's not "Be really stupid". Napster's a subscription service. That necessitates the use of DRM. It's not a store, you're not buying music. If you want that, go to iTMS.

  46. Question by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    Will Goognapster run on GoogOS?

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  47. google.gov by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $10 says the next /. article is: Google planning to acquire the U.S. gov't

    (Would probably make the court case go a little easier)

  48. Re:Noogle, Gnapster, Googster, Naggle & Napoog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The stock price performance today seems to confirm that Google is not trying to buy Napster. After the high opening prices the NAPS is making a dive to where it likes to call home at about $3.25 a share. Because some investors jumped on the rumor and wanted NAPS to ride the wave up the stock soared in the morning...for about 20 minutes.

  49. I have heard that. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

    Google is going to release a new version of their toolbar.
    Google is going to bundle a bunch of useful software for the PC together.
    If we are going to make stuff up how about this.
    Google is going into Bio-tech.
    Using Google's search experience and expertise in clustering Google is going into bio-tech. They feel that once they have enough sequence combined with medical records their search technology will find the genetic markers for all disease.
    In a secret deal with the Chinese government Google now has over one billion blood samples and medical histories.

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  50. Next up by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google buys the Library of Congress. They change the name to glibc.

  51. This is highly unorthodox by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    A factual post, with a link to a credible news source, disputing a rumor posted as "news for nerds" -- dude, you're really spoiling all the fun around here.

  52. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    No clear stategy... HAHA. Which if funnier- business people talking about tech, or tech people talking about business.... I think it is the latter.

  53. UPDATE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      For all you financial wizards, Forbes also has an article on the suggested alliance/buyout.

  54. Used to sell "Feeling Lucky" boxers (re:again?) by paulthomas · · Score: 1

    Google used to sell boxers with the text "I'm Feeling Lucky" tiled on the bias. This was before the IPO I think.

    They used to be sold through the Google Store, but they've toned down the apparel a little.

  55. Sounds Unlikely. Motive for Rumors? by camperslo · · Score: 1

    Does anyone ever investigate the investment behavior of the people originating these rumors to see if they're attempting to manipulate stock prices? After seeing that recent article suggesting that Apple had a battery life problem because of a Windows driver issue with the Core Duo cpu, I really had to wonder.

    I really doubt that Google wants anything to do with Microsoft DRM. They avoided it with video. Buying Napster for the name makes no sense since it's a joke at this point. And buying it to have access to an instant library with distribution agreements seems unlikely, since those agreements are no-doubt tied to MS DRM and would have to be renegotiated for something else. About all it would give them would be faster time to market since they would have the music industry contacts. I suspect Napster is way overpriced to buy just for that.

    I doubt that very many people would be drawn to a service having an inferior store, inferior DRM, an inferior PC client, and generally inferior players - just to get cheaper music.

    I think to succeed they'd need to do something really different. Provide national free (ad-supported) WiFi and gives us ad-supported VoIP phones that double as music players, THEN we'd have a reason to have something besides an iPod. I think the player should be free or very cheap too. Especially if the music is a subscription service. We don't pay a bunch for a cable or satellite box when subscribing to those services, why should music subscription be any different? A cheap/free Music GooPhone could always be distributed with a drive/flash slot so the user could pick up the cost when they wanted a decent amount of storage.

  56. Re:Google Digest? Googleback? by generic-man · · Score: 1

    Actually, it's both. If you go to http://yro.slashdot.org/ you'll see the Boing Boing story listed. Blocking YRO blocks all stories associated with the topic, even if they're associated with other topics you like.

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  57. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by rwven · · Score: 1

    Well, seeing that Microsoft heavily endorses and supports napster, i think this promises to be interesting...

  58. other platforms by wesw02 · · Score: 0

    Perhaps if this happens, we can get a release for something other than win xp. As of now I am being told by napster representatives at our university that napster is and will always be windows only.

  59. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by PastAustin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Grow up. Google isn't your internet based teddy bear.
    Google is like every other company. They want to make money. They are out to make money and they'd better make a lot since they've just hired tons of new people.

    I am so sick of hearing tons of people (not just /.ers) refer to Google as some evil corperation who is going to take over the world. They may. Maybe they have plans to do so. I don't know but honestly how can anyone on this website claim to know their plan?

    Everyone is complaining that Google is bowing to some evil government. Well you know what I would have done the same. Better to have censored searching rather than no searching. I mean a lot of places have chinese versions of their site. Are they not censoring? Are they evil? Google seems to be a company who a lot of people like (and look up to) and since a lot of people like them they are expected to be angels and turn down everything that makes money. If half of you got the chance you'd sell a censored version of your own software to china if it made a buck. Not even to mention you'd be doing it 100% out of profit, not to open the doors a little.

    Google may not be the most wonderful company but on the list of good corperations they're still on the top of my list. I think people need to give them a little slack and let things play out. When Google does something they do it well (after it is out of beta). I think that before pointing fingers you all should look at yourselves. We all have our pricetag and I don't think anyone has found Google's. They haven't been bought and they haven't done enough bad to destroy all the good they've done.</opinion>

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  60. I hope that Google remembers... by chrism238 · · Score: 1

    ... the geek from the recent remake of "The Italian Job". After all, it was all his idea, and he seemed pissed enough to hit Google for squillions.

  61. Napster: Own nothing. Have everything! by no_barcode · · Score: 0

    I'm particularly amused by Napster's last ad campaign in which they try to sell their most significant shortcoming as a feature:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/27/napster_ sells_nothing/

    Napster would be a nail or two (or three) in Google's coffin. Google can't be that stupid, I mean, if Google googles Napster they should get all kind of information on why doing business with them is bad. But maybe that's the real question here... does Google google? What does it mean for a Google to google? Can Google google itself? Perhaps Slashdot is on the verge of discovering the dirtiest, deepest, darkest secret that Google has been hiding from us, all along: Google can't google using google.com or any Google-related products. Something to do with recursive loops and bacon grease. It's all very complicated.

    Whatever.

  62. Tomorrow's news by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

    "God bought out by Google"

    When asked for comment, representatives stated that in order to do no evil, a corporate takeover of Heaven was required. An anonymous source at Google went on to say: "The rules on what is evil and what's not are so 1st century. We thought it was time to bring them up to date."

    1. Re:Tomorrow's news by Kesch · · Score: 1

      Wait, wait, let me use my new degree in Google Naming Science.

      God + Google = Good (Or maybe Goodle or Godle)

      Anyways, I like forward to RID(Really Intellegent Design). Now excuese me while I use the new fast and easy "I'm Feeling Repentent" feature.

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  63. Next wild Google rumor by Bucc5062 · · Score: 1

    An unsubstantiated report from gP Reuters states that Google is considering the acquisition of the United States of America. A senior management source who would not be quoted said that this is clearly in keeping with the company motto "Do No Evil". Google sees the purchase of the USA as a chance to continue their practice of buying half finished or poorly built products and improving on the product. The first order of business will be to restructure the government to provide quicker response with minimal flash and attention getting.

    Google a spokesman pointed out that much of the country has already been converted over to a marketing/advertising platform. They feel Google can improve the scatter gun advertising that is somewhat haphazard in TV, Radio, and magazines. they continued, "Interested in taking a ride to Grandma's house? Road signs will now start to display targeted advertising relating to what best fits Grandma's needs". When pushed about the various ongoing conflicts the US is involved in Google stated that by purchasing the US, wars will be eliminated from the business plan as they are bad areas for advertising. One other minor result of the purchase will be the total destruction of Microsoft as an American corporation. "Google cannot abide having such evil in its land".

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  64. Why would they BUY? That would be silly! by sircalculus · · Score: 1

    It would be just plain silly for Google to BUY napster and try to COMPETE with the other music services. That's not how be the master of the internet universe and all it's data. To be the omnipresent magnificence that google really aspires to, it seems much smarter to partner with ALL of the music services. If I'm new to the world of buying music online and want to find "Like a Virgin", I google it, and it hooks me up with all of the services that carry it, and how much it'll cost me from each provider. Google can take a cut for connecting the searcher with provider. Teaming with napster would be a great first step. Once everybody finds music via google and they're the all-pervasive hub, ONLY THEN they can buy all of the content and nobody will be able to stop them.

  65. NY Post scam? by LeDopore · · Score: 0

    1. Buy Napster stock.
    2. Print speculative article claiming Google wants Napster.
    3. Watch Napster share price soar.
    4. Profit!

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  66. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by buckyboy314 · · Score: 0

    That was a typo. The parent was referring to Google's NUCLEAR strategy. The satellites are moving into position as we speak.

  67. Napster == SCOsource by knorthern+knight · · Score: 1

    > My understanding was that the large universities that had negotiated such agreements
    > were essentially paying a RIAA tax so that they'd stop getting those pesky legal letters.

        Duhhh... nice university/company youse got here. Youse wouldn't want something terrible to happen to it like a meritless, but damn expensive, lawsuit. For only a few million per year in prot^H^H^H^H licence fees, we can guarantee that nothing terrible happens to youse.

        Please Google, don't buy Napster. Those assholes should not be rewarded with a buyout any more than Mcbride and Yarro.

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  68. Re:Google Digest? Googleback? by cojerk · · Score: 1

    I'm thinking the reason behind all the Google articles (true or otherwise) is because GOOG reports today.

    There's a lot of hype to spread around.

  69. Google's F'n up... Napster = Market Cancer by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 1

    Napster is dead, its been dead since it Metallica destroyed it :) It's not a left over cancer that no one wants to touch.

    Google's screwing up, if they think its a good idea to infect the google name with the cancer that is Napster.

    Yahoo's desktop search is better than googles.
    Yahoo Desktop Widgets is great fun.

    Google shouldnt spread itself so thin, and start a real unified movement.

  70. Napster isn't even Napster any more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do they still call this 'Napster'? it's a frickin shopping basket.

  71. The bubble is bursting... by Canberra+Bob · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That may be the case, but based on the hammering their share price took about a week ago it is possible that the GOOG bubble is in the process of bursting. Having broken downwards through the 400 mark that is no longer a level of support. Will be interesting what happens over the coming weeks.

  72. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by mattgreen · · Score: 1

    I'm curious why people feel like they need to speak up on behalf of some faceless corporation? Their 'online reputation' among fickle folk like those on /. is largely a result of actions.

  73. Re:Google Digest? Googleback? by dolphinlover · · Score: 1

    I guess now we know who is "new here". :P

  74. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by PastAustin · · Score: 1

    For the record I am not speaking up on behalf of Google. I am speaking up because I am tired of people who are total pieces of slim getting treated the same as companies who have at least some virutes...

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  75. Google 2000 = Microsoft 1990 by ChrisMroz · · Score: 1

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not anti-GoOgle. But it seems as if Google buys companies with good software. Spins it around, calls it their own, and its not as good as the original.

  76. Re:Google isn't fun anymore (tm). by mattgreen · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but what does speaking up for honorable companies really do? Change a couple of people's minds? In the end, they're just a company, they exist to make a profit; nothing more, nothing less.

    I suppose it bothers me because I see a large proportion of people who are zealous (far more than you) about some facet of technology when it doesn't make a significant impact on human existence. Suppose 1% of the advocacy directed toward Linux was funneled toward a cause such as human rights? However, I think part of the allure of advocating things like Linux is that one can do so very easily and without much risk.

  77. Full Napster 2.0 story by misaochankun · · Score: 1

    Napster 2.0 was originally called Duet, then renamed to Pressplay. This was created by the original MP3.com and not the corporate bastard child taking the current name of MP3.com. Roxio had bought the name Napster, then came to MP3.com to use pressplay for the back end. They then ripped it out of the MP3.com group of products and struck out on their own, renaming pressplay to Napster 2.0. The back end was well designed last I saw of it, but I can't vouch for what has been done with it since they moved off on their own. For the LAMP lovers, it did run on Redhat 6.2-9.0, with apache 1.x, MySQL 3.23.x and tons of 'drunken coded' perl and a few other fun languages. No telling what it is now, but you might still see mention of duet and pressplay in urls and in random guts of the programs.

  78. Profit? by Mindcry · · Score: 1

    I know this is late, but is it possible someone started this rumor for that predictable 30% stock increase?

    It seems like every "google is looking to buy..." story is plausible, and the results (if you had a day's notice on the rumor or possibly started it) are always profitable.