From the article: "Have had a semester of either VB or C++"
That implies that they're not just green but very green. I think one of his primary points is to find out what we think would be the best way to help them become "good programmers".
When I first learned C, I used Turbo C for dos. That is an IDE, but not much of one. I soon graduated to C++ (When it came out..) on unix using VI. That transition and the summary year programming without any kind of IDE really taught me the value of a good debugging IDE. Since that time, I've learned countless languages and used a smorgasboard of IDE's. But, learning to program without one left me with a strong appreciation for how valuable a tool they really are.
With that in mind, I have, on occasion, whipped out changes or written new features on a customer site without an IDE and am very glad that I learned to do that early on.
I would suggest that you start them out using a generic text editor. Since the first month or two of a programming class as usually not more complicated then Hello World programs. They'll struggle to debug them and struggle a bit with their syntax. Right about the time you can tell they're starting to get frustrated, switch to an IDE. Introduce it as a tool to help them. They'll very quickly learn it's value, but they'll still have some basic NON-ide debugging skills.
If you already have a Bachelor's degree and feel that you need to enhance your "marketability", perhaps you need to consider revisiting reality. If you're having trouble finding a job with a 4-year degree, what makes you think you'll have better luck with another one? You need to spend some time in the workforce and develop some practical experience. I guarantee THAT will help your "marketability".
I should have known that by posting anything resembling a command that I'd get a barrage of suggestions on how to do it better. It's amazing how a slashdot thread about code authors can turn into a bash commentary.:)
I was examining my crack pipe today, and I realized something. If this new law passes, I can blame the company that makes the glass used to blow the crack pipe for my habit! I'm going to sue the glass manufacturer! More CRACK!!!
Everyone here is missing the boat... hairspray, propane... those all work OK
The REAL propellant to use is ETHER! Spudnik is built from PVC pipe (MUST USE SCH. 80), with a rifled barrel. Attached to the combustion chamber is a John Deere Ether Injector. Gives a perfectly measured, atomized spray every time. Distances in excess of 1000 yds.:)
A friend of mine owns a company that makes just such a beast.. http://www.cotcomsol.com/byteworks2.sql I know nothing at it per se, except that it was written by a competant programmer.
Sir:
Firstly, let me state that I am not a "linux-head". I simply want to correct some of your errors in this column. With reguard to linux, you make several assumptions about the way distributions (i.e. redhat, suse, etc.) are developed. These assumptions are incorrect. The kernel itself provides little in the way of operations, function, or security. Those are not kernel functions. For comparison purposes, the microsoft X-box runs a variation of windows 2000 that is without most of the userland tools. The X-box OS is the best example of a windows 2000 "kernel" by itself. This system could not even participate in the security trials. The tests you suggest as a metric for measurement requires a functioning system. That is exactly what the various linux distributors provide. The package (Redhat Linux, Mandrake Linux) provides all of the functionality that either provides or decimates security. The Lindows system, for example, takes security as a far lower priority then usability. Similiarly to windows 98. I don't disagree with you that the best measurement for security is a structured test, and the ones you suggest are seemingly adequete. I only object to your misinformed conclusions on linux' ability to pass or fail said test. As a side note, my company runs on Solaris not linux.
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Very much like you, I've always been fascinated with Nasa and the shuttle program.
I made the trek from South Carolina to witness my first launch and it was without a doubt the most spectacular thing I have ever seen.
It actually brought tears to my eyes when the shock wave hit and I realized how much human spirit was behind that one event.
Space travel is the most amazing thing mankind has ever achieved. I snapped a picture that I think sums it up perfectly.
http://republicguild.com/~sean/Picture%20346.jpg
They aren't good programmers yet.
From the article: "Have had a semester of either VB or C++"
That implies that they're not just green but very green. I think one of his primary points is to find out what we think would be the best way to help them become "good programmers".
When I first learned C, I used Turbo C for dos. That is an IDE, but not much of one. I soon graduated to C++ (When it came out..) on unix using VI. That transition and the summary year programming without any kind of IDE really taught me the value of a good debugging IDE. Since that time, I've learned countless languages and used a smorgasboard of IDE's. But, learning to program without one left me with a strong appreciation for how valuable a tool they really are.
With that in mind, I have, on occasion, whipped out changes or written new features on a customer site without an IDE and am very glad that I learned to do that early on.
I would suggest that you start them out using a generic text editor. Since the first month or two of a programming class as usually not more complicated then Hello World programs. They'll struggle to debug them and struggle a bit with their syntax. Right about the time you can tell they're starting to get frustrated, switch to an IDE. Introduce it as a tool to help them. They'll very quickly learn it's value, but they'll still have some basic NON-ide debugging skills.
Poor caydiem.... /comfort
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how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood
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Answer:
Woodchuck
Could Chuck: As much wood as a woodchuck would if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
According to http://www.enchantedlearning.com/rhymes/Woodchuck
If you already have a Bachelor's degree and feel that you need to enhance your "marketability", perhaps you need to consider revisiting reality. If you're having trouble finding a job with a 4-year degree, what makes you think you'll have better luck with another one? You need to spend some time in the workforce and develop some practical experience. I guarantee THAT will help your "marketability".
I had one of these little wooden toys during my alpha version stage and it was WONDERFUL.
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I should have known that by posting anything resembling a command that I'd get a barrage of suggestions on how to do it better. It's amazing how a slashdot thread about code authors can turn into a bash commentary. :)
cd /usr/src/linux ./) |grep Donald Becker
/drivers there are 232 comments with his name.
cat $(find
or even
dmesg |grep Donald Becker
Just in
I was examining my crack pipe today, and I realized something. If this new law passes, I can blame the company that makes the glass used to blow the crack pipe for my habit! I'm going to sue the glass manufacturer! More CRACK!!!
Everyone here is missing the boat... hairspray, propane... those all work OK
:)
The REAL propellant to use is ETHER!
Spudnik is built from PVC pipe (MUST USE SCH. 80), with a rifled barrel. Attached to the combustion chamber is a John Deere Ether Injector. Gives a perfectly measured, atomized spray every time. Distances in excess of 1000 yds.
A friend of mine owns a company that makes just such a beast..
http://www.cotcomsol.com/byteworks2.sql
I know nothing at it per se, except that it was written by a competant programmer.
"This is my tree. There are many like it, but this one is mine." - Linus
Letter sent to Mr. Wagner:
Sir:
Firstly, let me state that I am not a "linux-head". I simply want to correct some of your errors in this column. With reguard to linux, you make several assumptions about the way distributions (i.e. redhat, suse, etc.) are developed. These assumptions are incorrect. The kernel itself provides little in the way of operations, function, or security. Those are not kernel functions. For comparison purposes, the microsoft X-box runs a variation of windows 2000 that is without most of the userland tools. The X-box OS is the best example of a windows 2000 "kernel" by itself. This system could not even participate in the security trials. The tests you suggest as a metric for measurement requires a functioning system. That is exactly what the various linux distributors provide. The package (Redhat Linux, Mandrake Linux) provides all of the functionality that either provides or decimates security. The Lindows system, for example, takes security as a far lower priority then usability. Similiarly to windows 98. I don't disagree with you that the best measurement for security is a structured test, and the ones you suggest are seemingly adequete. I only object to your misinformed conclusions on linux' ability to pass or fail said test. As a side note, my company runs on Solaris not linux.
Sean Mollet
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