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Go X10 Speed Racer!

BoomZilla writes ""Speedy" Shayne Barr races Nitro RS4 remote controlled Racecars competitively. These cars are nitro fueled, 1/10 scale, and they can go as fast as fifty miles per hour. To make his racing more interesting, he has hooked up an XCam2 to his racecar so that not only can he race the car, he can also view the race from the car's viewpoint after the race is over. Speedy's posted a number of videos on his website where he describes the construction process. The vid where his car winds up on its roof is most entertaining. Go Speed(y) Racer!"

176 comments

  1. Yeah, posting the links to the video... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    That's a great way of saying kill this site, please!

    1. Re:Yeah, posting the links to the video... by gabec · · Score: 4, Informative

      well.. here's at least a pic of his cool little RC car. I copied it to my website since his looked like it was really slow. so if it does go down at least you can still see what the car looks like (unless you guys slashdot me simply because of that one image.. lol..)

    2. Re:Yeah, posting the links to the video... by Derg · · Score: 1

      its like, 12:30 central time and the site is still up.. I was getting speeds over 400k when I was checking out those videos.. either people arent going because they assume its been slashdotted, or he's got amazing Amazing pipes on that site..

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    3. Re:Yeah, posting the links to the video... by adam+arndt · · Score: 1

      The pictures at least are on wayback machine Wayback does not have the videos, even from 2000... disk space issue? I think they only have 200T!

  2. I've always wanted to do that... by Jim+Ethanol · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now it's time to rig on to a kite at the beach ;)

    1. Re:I've always wanted to do that... by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      Now it's time to rig on to a kite at the beach ;)

      That wouldn't exactly be a new idea, but I think the quality of the X10 cameras and shaking of the kite wouldn't give you much of a return on your investment. Maybe fly a model rocket in an arc, taking pictures?

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    2. Re:I've always wanted to do that... by buswolley · · Score: 0, Troll
      Why when we have the internet for porn. Pictures/movies.. its all the same.

      Steal a copy of grrls Gone Wild the Slashdotter Edition, and be done with it.

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    3. Re:I've always wanted to do that... by pyr0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That reminds me of something that happened to me once. Myself and a friend used to go to a Best Buy parking lot around midnight and race our R/C cars until around 4am. Anyway, once a cop saw us up there, and he drove up behind my R/C car with his lights and siren on. I thought I was in trouble for loitering in a parking lot late at night, but instead when he finally got to where I was, he opened his window and said "I've always wanted to do that! Pull over an R/C car." He even was nice enough to clock our cars at full speed with his radar gun.

      Aside from that, I would really like to try and mount a camera to my car. I tried it with a small camcorder once, but it flipped the car every time I tried to turn.

    4. Re:I've always wanted to do that... by Xaoswolf · · Score: 2
      Some friends of mine were planning on making a battlebot with some X10's sending a live feed to a set of VR goggles.

      We could have done it, but it's hard enough to get my friends to focus long enough to watch a movie, let alone long enough to build a bot...

    5. Re:I've always wanted to do that... by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

      Why use a kite?

      Why not one of these?

    6. Re:I've always wanted to do that... by Inigo+Montoya · · Score: 1

      .. And this one time, at band camp..

      (*whack*) :-)

  3. The real question is by madsenj37 · · Score: 4, Funny

    are the racing groupies 1/10 the size?

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    1. Re:The real question is by buswolley · · Score: 1

      Do they have a similar clubHouse as the Thourobred jockeys/elves in The SIMPSONS episode?

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    2. Re:The real question is by El+Kevbo · · Score: 2

      Size doesn't matter.

  4. Added weight by LeapingGnomeArs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm assuming that he is only using the camera for fun, not during an actual race? In RC car races the weight is kept the minimum possible, I don't think adding the 5.8 ounces for this camera is going to help him get on the podium.

    1. Re:Added weight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just drop 5.8 ounces somehow? But no your right, all that matters is winning. Regardless of the joy of getting there.

    2. Re:Added weight by Vess+V. · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If they could just drop some more weight on a whim like that, don't you think that weight wouldn't be there in the first place?

    3. Re:Added weight by Loligo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      >In RC car races the weight is kept the minimum
      >possible

      Might they have a weight minimum, kinda like full-scale racing?

      I know that in NASCAR and F1 and CART and the like, you have to weigh at least a certain minimum. To the point of ADDING weight to the cars if needed. Basically this translates into every car basically weighing EXACTLY this amount, but...

      I dunno anything about RC, do they have something like this?

      -l
      (...you must be at least this heavy to race this race...)

    4. Re:Added weight by dirvish · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you read the site it says that his lap time with the cam was ~5 seconds slower than cars in races.

      Total weight of body with camera and batteries is 11.8 ounces. Total weight of body before camera was just under 4 ounces.

      Obviously it will be slower with a camera on top but I am sure the cam car is just for exhibition. He has lots of other cars for races.

    5. Re:Added weight by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 3, Informative

      >To the point of ADDING weight to the cars if needed.

      Keep in mind that NASCAR/CART remove as much weight as possible. Then they go back and add weight to specific places on the car to make it handel properly. By doing this, they can get the weight lower on the car to decrease the effect of centripital force twisting the body out of a turn.

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    6. Re:Added weight by bm_luethke · · Score: 4, Informative

      yes there is a minimum weight. ROAR sanctions US races (not sure about outside of US). Roar rules can be found here, I don't know the minimum weight right offhand though (and it would matter what class you are running also)

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    7. Re:Added weight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As he mentions on the site -

      # 4/2000

      * Note: Race times for fast cars were in the 16's and 17's. With a 1/2 pound camera on the car, I did one in about 22 seconds.

    8. Re:Added weight by dsoltesz · · Score: 2

      I'm wondering if weight can be trimmed off the camera. I don't have an X10 to disassemble, but I'm thinking there's extraneous weight in the base that could be removed, plus some of the casing (like around the lens) I think could be removed. Additionally, I don't know how much room is inside the car, but if the camera could be installed behind the windshield, it might cut down the drag.

    9. Re:Added weight by Giggles+Of+Doom · · Score: 1

      Yay! You even used the right force term, as there is no such thing as centrifugal force. *sniff* I'm so proud.

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    10. Re:Added weight by trevinofunk · · Score: 1
      Well according to the x10 ads, the camera is designed for "fun...". So I would assume that he is using it for "fun...," and not for racing. You see, "fun..." doesnt necissarily mean lightweight or raceworthy building.

      I might go get one, I hear they're lots of "fun..."

    11. Re:Added weight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's bs. Centrifugal force does exist. It is the force the the driver exerts on the car as he makes the tight turns at high speeds. Centripetal force is the force that the car makes on the driver. They are opposing forces.

  5. drivers by jlechem · · Score: 2, Funny

    now all we need are 1/10 scale drivers. Can we say go speed midget racer?

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    1. Re:drivers by buswolley · · Score: 1
      An event funded by Dr. Evil's Mini-Me?

      Hated the movie??I didn't even see it.

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  6. x10.com by Uhh_Duh · · Score: 5, Funny


    I fail to see how can I use this to spy on girls in skimpy clothing. Is there a very tiny girl driving the tiny car I can watch somehow with the tiny camera?

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    1. Re:x10.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Are you stooopid? Mount the camera on the roof pointing up. 1/10 scale cars are just small enough to drive between peoples legs.***

      *** This behaviour is not condoned by the author.

  7. 1/12 scale people by yerricde · · Score: 1

    now all we need are 1/10 scale drivers

    You'll find plenty in Lilliput.

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    1. Re:1/12 scale people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Out of idle curiousity, I must ask this:

      Do you know of any Slashdotters who have made more posts than yourself?

  8. Videos: What format? by porkface · · Score: 1

    What bloody format is that avi encoded in? I do a lot of video editing, but my Win2k system doesn't have the correct video codec.

    1. Re:Videos: What format? by cscx · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to WMP: Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter

      I do hardly any editing, and I run XP.

    2. Re:Videos: What format? by porkface · · Score: 1

      Ahhh yes, because XP will protect your copyrighted material from even you! Sorry, I had to. Thanks for the info.

    3. Re:Videos: What format? by friedmud · · Score: 2

      Just thought I would mention that it played perfectly - and without any hassle using Xine under linux.

      Hmmmm, things are getting better all the time for us linux users.

      Derek

  9. If you can't make em fast... by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Speedy" Shayne Barr races Nitro RS4 remote controlled Racecars competitively. These cars are nitro fueled, 1/10 scale, and they can go as fast as fifty miles per hour.

    Just make them look like they could go fast if they wanted. Perhaps an offset racing stripe, or a "v-tec" sticker. Check out the official Rice Boy Page for more info.

    Ever seen a colorfully decalled-to-death crap car (usually a Honda Civic) with no power under the hood, but giving off the impression like it's powerful? Well, most of our remote controlled cars arent either and we have no hopes of competing with this guy. Just put stickers on it and any idion who sees the thing will definately be as impressed as he/she would be if it were the real deal.

    Note: "Rice boy" is not a derrogatory racist term; the website deals with this issue. Check it's FAQ before flaming.

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    1. Re:If you can't make em fast... by bm_luethke · · Score: 2, Informative

      Of course since the HPI nitro rs4 takes a .12 engine a quick search through towerhobbies shows that one can get as much a 1.2 horse power engine that weighs something like 7 ounces. Further one would see that the shell is painted lexan plastic. Putting these two things together you can easily get a nitro rs4 to hit the 50 MPH mark, indeed my nitro TC3 will nearly reach 60 MPH with a OS cv-r and a two speed clutch. So not only do you get a car that looks like it goes fast, it does go fast. (for someone that doesn't know typicall rc nitro fuel is 20% nitro methane, 20% lubricant (oils), and 60% alchohol so it's quite combustable. The two stroke engines in use typically have an effective RPM range of ~4000 idle to 35000-45000 top end for race quality motors)

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    2. Re:If you can't make em fast... by ewhac · · Score: 2

      For insulting questionable auto styling, I prefer beaterz.com.

      Schwab

    3. Re:If you can't make em fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course "rice boy" isn't a racist term, although it is obviously a derogatory term. Most rice boys around here are white guys who just can't afford real speed, so they sticker up their bargain imports.

      But then again, I also know quite a few people (guys, girls, white, asian, whatever) who flat out don't CARE about speed. The decals they stick on their cars aren't there to make their cars look faster, they're just prettying them up. I think they're tacky, the same way I think linux tux or BSD daemon badges for PC cases are tacky, but it's all just a matter of taste. What do I care if some Chinese guy wants to put the kanji for "Honda" on the bumper of his Civic? It has zero effect on me.

      The word for people like that guy who runs riceboy page (an american korean, mind you) and the guy who runs beaterz and everyone else obsessed with ricers, is "hater." The only constructive criticism that haters have for people who ike this stuff is, "change your idea of what's tasteful and what's tacky," or, in other words, "like what I like, because I don't like what you like." Sounds like a loser's philosophy.

    4. Re:If you can't make em fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Speedy Shayne Barr races Nitro RS4 remote controlled Racecars competitively

      WTF, how can he race competitively? Wouldn't the pop up ads really slow him down?

      Just my .02 cubic inches.

      Beavis

    5. Re:If you can't make em fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that these automotive cosmetics enthusiasts are (above referred to as "ricers"), in my experience, are some of the hatinest people on earth.

  10. Oh no.. he's been slashdotted.. by jaxdahl · · Score: 1

    Server is in its death throes... must be all the pervs who are clicking on the X10 ads and getting sent to his page and d/l the videos.

    Moral?

    videos + x10 + fast and furious RC cars = super slashdotting.

    1. Re:Oh no.. he's been slashdotted.. by buswolley · · Score: 1

      slashdotter version of Grrls Gone wild?

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  11. Now watch his web site go from 0 to 60Gb/month by KNicolson · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...in under 13 seconds. Sadly, no X-10 camera is available to see that resulting crash!

  12. I want a cam to see... by agnosonga · · Score: 0, Redundant

    how speedily this site gets slashdotted

  13. /. in action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Hmm, nitro RC cars, videos, slashdot...

    Think I'll leave it a few days before I even bother clicking the link :)

  14. Re:WE MUST DESTROY X10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
    Piece of shit link didnt work. I am weak human. Red Robot Crush Hu-man.

    http://www.kompressormusic.com/
    http://artists.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/kompressormusic /

    PS Kompressor does not dance.

    (and yes, i know the fucking article isnt about the real X10)

  15. What scale is RC? by ackthpt · · Score: 1

    I've heard from people who build and race the electric cars that they can achieve speeds of 70mph. What scale are they?

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    1. Re:What scale is RC? by coffeedreg · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The fastest I've heard of a micro rc car was 56mph. That was a 1/24 scale modded ABC DTM car (modified with multiple batteries).

      Learn more at www.microrccenter.com

    2. Re:What scale is RC? by Gabrill · · Score: 1

      I've heard of 10 scale electric AND nitro going near 100mph real speed. The article is a bit dated though, and they may have beat even that speed. http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/need_speed. asp

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  16. X10? I thought /. was better than that by Christianfreak · · Score: 5, Funny

    How much money did you get for the X10 Ad? When are the really annoying flashing ones coming?

    Okay I'm only kidding. Actually those camera's look really cool, I'd probably get one if their business model didn't remind me of used car salesmen.

    I also want one of these little cars.

    1. Re:X10? I thought /. was better than that by enneff · · Score: 2

      Some advertisment - the video quality was absolutely apalling. Slight movement of the camera causes really ugly scanline artifacts. (the image looks 'sliced' in half, as the top half refreshes before the bottom)

      If anything, these videos have convinced me not to buy an X10 cam.

    2. Re:X10? I thought /. was better than that by srvivn21 · · Score: 2
  17. yes its on google by rveno1 · · Score: 1

    the site is on google http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:SlJc55fUhMQC: racenut.com/barrc/carcam.html+&hl=en&ie=UT F-8

    1. Re:yes its on google by LeapingGnomeArs · · Score: 1

      The URL in the parent has an extra space in it. Here it is linked for your pleasure: linkage

  18. I couldn't fit one of those things into a shower by Crasoum · · Score: 1
    stall....

    how could he put it on a car that is 22 cm long and 11 cm tall?

  19. Useless by wilburdg · · Score: 1

    And here I was thinking that all those X10 popup adds were obnoxious and without a purpose.

  20. I'm having the same problem also [nt] by Rooked_One · · Score: 1

    No Text

  21. Did anyone else by starseeker · · Score: 1

    read that initially as Go X-10 and think popup adds?

    And I thought I was immune to things on Slashdot startling me...

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  22. I tried this..... by Chris_Stankowitz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    with a Tiny R/C Digi Q Cars and a KY-D29UCH 3-CCD COLOR CAMERA not with quite as much success, but I promise not to give up.

    1. Re:I tried this..... by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      Uhmmm...good luck in that. I've had similar luck trying to get a Yugo to pull a 53' trailer. If you get yours to work, perhaps we can share technologies?

      [for the humor impaired/those who don't check the links -- it's a joke!]

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  23. The Amazing X Cam! by Kirby-meister · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I'm guessing the car can also be used to spy on women or protect the family...special offer only two days left!

  24. Re:I couldn't fit one of those things into a showe by LeapingGnomeArs · · Score: 1

    In the article it said he had to flip the camera, shorten some of the wires and actually slim down the battery compartment.

  25. For sure by tulare · · Score: 2

    You've gotta love "QuickTime Format" videos that won't play on QuickTime on Apple® OS X.
    Mpegs are my friend.
    Mpegs are my friend...

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    1. Re:For sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when was .avi a QuickTime format. .AVI is a windows format.

    2. Re:For sure by tulare · · Score: 1

      Hey, I'm not the one who called them "QuickTime Movies". That honor goes to the website author.

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  26. One Racer, see bottom of page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's one racer.

  27. Humour... by Crasoum · · Score: 0

    I'm much to unwitty to think of anything else that was semi-orginal in content ;)

  28. Movies Mirror by killa-b(a+was+taken) · · Score: 1

    be friendly to my poor .net server. but thank god for unlimited bandwidth per month. http://matt.yi.org/racer/ its only 3.5 adsl with 80 up. max ten connections so my i can still use my comp.

    1. Re:Movies Mirror by davidstrauss · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Better check on your .NET worth after posting this web site. Bank account 3846 8109-689 at the Bank of Montreal.

    2. Re:Movies Mirror by killa-b(a+was+taken) · · Score: 1

      not my back account. and only an account # so have fun with dat.

    3. Re:Movies Mirror by killa-b(a+was+taken) · · Score: 1

      not to sound like a jac ass. thanks forgot to chk if anythint was worth while. but everything on there is just garbage.

    4. Re:Movies Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WOW YOU'RE AN INCREDIBLE HACKER!
      You hacked in to that HORRIBLE MICRO$OFT (LOL DOLLAR SIGN LOL) server with your 31337 SKILZ, I SEE!
      WAY TO DELETE THE FILENAME and view the directory listing, YOU HAXOR!

    5. Re:Movies Mirror by killa-b(a+was+taken) · · Score: 1

      well i deleted it, cause i assume the dude' who's it is would wanted it deleted. i dont thik he was trying to be "leet" just helpfull.

  29. You knew it was comming... by 403Forbidden · · Score: 0

    1. Put X10 Cam on a nitro car
    2. make lots of videos of it
    3. get slashdotted
    4. ???
    5 Profit!

    seriously though, wouldn't this be funny if it was all one bit X10 ad and in a few moments a big X10 pop-up would appear?

  30. Re:Videos: What format? - Indeo by WD · · Score: 5, Informative

    They're Intel Indeo Video 4.1
    I had to run the Indeo installer to get the video to play on my system.

  31. Wow...a legitimate use? by jwlidtnet · · Score: 4, Funny

    *pondering*

    So it isn't being used for porno? Or spying on someone? Or tawdry videoconferencing?

    I think this guy should be recognized more for finally discovering a legitimate use for one of those cameras than anything else.

    -D

    Unless the cars are NUDE, of course.

    1. Re:Wow...a legitimate use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Nitro truck always runs NUDE! I am forever fiddling with the engine and have no time to put the clothes on.

      Stuart

  32. Try again.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    Here's one racer.

    Oh, and this crap about how much time before you can hit submit after reply is bullshit.

  33. Ah, thanks for pointing that out by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    Thanks for pointint that out, I thought it might mean Raid Conroller, e.g. controlling them from a PCI or older ISA card, making them go around like synchronized swimming. Wouldn't that be lovely?

    After much searching I found that the Nitro Car is the same scale as the standard (1/10 scale) R/C which people get together around here and race in parking lots on Sunday mornings.

    Having to go beyond RC or R/C usually indicates I'm addressing someone else who doesn't know, thanks for taking the time to explain it clearly and avoid anonymously flaming.

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  34. Good Use by nuxx · · Score: 3, Funny

    Imagine the possibilities of a small car (4" long or so) with a small camera (at a fairly high frame rate) racing in and out of dressing rooms or in a shopping mall. Sure, there's the risk of it getting stepped on, so be sneaky.

    1. Re:Good Use by Loligo · · Score: 2

      >Imagine the possibilities [...]

      I'd be too worried about something popping up while it was trying to be stealthy.

      -l

  35. How to make the 'Quicktime' movies run by bobdotorg · · Score: 5, Informative

    While the .avi played fine with QT6, the quicktime file did not.

    If you change the filetype and creator of the quicktime file to:
    VfW¥
    TVOD

    they'll work fine with Quicktime.

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    1. Re:How to make the 'Quicktime' movies run by madsenj37 · · Score: 1

      are you using pro cause it doesnt work for me?

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    2. Re:How to make the 'Quicktime' movies run by bobdotorg · · Score: 2

      I'm using QT6 pro / Mac OS 9.2.2. It later dawned on me that I also have some Indeo Video extensions that I installed long ago (with Quicktime 5.0.5 according to the Get Info), though I don't know if these are crucial.

      Did this tip work (or not) for anyone else?

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    3. Re:How to make the 'Quicktime' movies run by madsenj37 · · Score: 1

      it is those very indeo video codecs that have not been made availible to OS X yet, therefore unless i boot into 9 i cant watch. Thanks for the clarification.

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  36. Cool idea by Joey7F · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess the X10 car idea just sorta "popped up" ::dodging tomatos::

    --Joey

  37. hmm by RedWolves2 · · Score: 1

    I guess posting a story with videos is just asking to be slashdotted.

    1. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      scroll up dumbass, that was paraphrasing the 1st post

    2. Re:hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but the whole point of the post was to get the amazon affiliate $

  38. videos by nhtshot · · Score: 0

    That stuffs nothin..
    check out
    TriLordy Nitro

  39. Linking on slashdot by Tuffnut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it has really become a problem. Because for one, the victim didn't necessarily choose to be on Slashdot. Or for that matter even knows his server being ravaged by a million geeks. Slashdot's server is capable of handling the load, so what's stopping them from hosting a mirror on their site? With the exception of copyrights and such, I'm sure the admin would gladly have a mirror setup on slashdot in substitution for getting a $5k b/w bill.

    1. Re:Linking on slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well just think about this on a business level. Slashdot already has a contract for the amount of bandwidth that they use. Now think about tripling or more that bandwidth because they're now a host/mirror of the site. It just doesn't make business sense. So what if a site is down for awhile for a few users. If you're really that interested in a site, go visit it a few days later.

    2. Re:Linking on slashdot by alonsoac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With the exception of copyrights and such, I'm sure the admin would gladly have a mirror setup on slashdot in substitution for getting a $5k b/w bill.

      I agree the mirror thing is a good idea. But in this case I get the feeling this guy is happy with all the attention he is getting and probably won't even take that bandwidth bill himself. How many sales do you think X10 gets now that geeks think that these cameras are cool despite the way they are marketed. And why so many X10 picutures and references? Seems a little too much. Reminds me of low-budget soap operas in my country. They are just a long and somewhat interesting add, interrupted only by shorter less interesting adds. But people do watch them and bussinesses do pay sponsorships to get on the show.

    3. Re:Linking on slashdot by po8 · · Score: 0

      More to the point, Slashdot is going to get sued sooner or later for actual damages in bandwidth cost plus punitive damages for negligence plus legal fees. It isn't like the editors don't know about the problems they're inflicting on others: they just don't choose to care. That's usually civilly actionable one way or another, at least in the US.

      Yes, yes, I know, off-topic and insufficiently Slashdot rah-rah. But I host a site at my public University that carries a bunch of free software and useful information, and I suspect it's only a matter of time under the current regime until I'm forced to take it down because it gets Slashdotted one time too many. (It has been up two months, and has already been hit once. It has a lot more content now than it did then.) If this were a hard problem to solve for some reason, it would be one thing...

    4. Re:Linking on slashdot by rgraham · · Score: 1

      Read the /. FAQ for why they don't mirror.

    5. Re:Linking on slashdot by djallstar · · Score: 0

      well think about this on a business *ethics* level....

      'nuff said.

      j.

    6. Re:Linking on slashdot by spazoid12 · · Score: 1

      Oh, you mean like Google's cache? The FAQ about why caching isn't done here doesn't actually say why. It simply states a few obstacles, and even some solutions, and then merely drops off with a punt of the issue. IE: Anything difficult is not done here. Slashdot works because it's a fun kind of news category. Yahoo has "odd news" and "tech news", etc... Slashdot represents such a category. The rest is trivial and not implemented in any spectacular way.

  40. camsoncars.com by bobdotorg · · Score: 3, Funny

    step 1. mount X-10 camera to RC car
    step 2. drive through a crowd of skirts
    step 3. ???
    step 4. Profit!

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    1. Re:camsoncars.com by Torqued · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Can you imagine having a Beowulf cluster of these "Profit" jokes?

    2. Re:camsoncars.com by bobdotorg · · Score: 2

      Can you imagine having a Beowulf cluster of these "Profit" jokes?

      step 1. Create Beowolf cluster of "Profit" jokes

      step 2. ???

      step 3. Profit!

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    3. Re:camsoncars.com by eclectus · · Score: 1


      step 1. mount X-10 camera to RC car
      step 2. drive through a crowd of skirts
      step 3. ???
      step 4. Profit!

      In this case, anyone who cannot think up step 3 should be banned from slashdot.....

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  41. RC racing by trybywrench · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use to do this kind of thing when i was in HS and actually had spare time. If you have never been to a 1/10 or 1/8 scale race i seriously advise checking it out. It is very cool. Also, the technology in these model cars is nothing short of awesome. The techniques used for battery matching, motor tuning, and suspension setup are insanely complex. Pick up an issue of RC Car Action at your local bookstore and flip through the pages. It's a great hobby if you got the time and $$.

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  42. Did X10 sponsor Shayne? by Cheese+Cracker · · Score: 1

    Whenever Shayne shows off his fantastic little car, a nicely curved girl pops up with a commercial sign
    for X10... I read X10 has taken patent on this type of commercials... they call it Live Popups (TM)...

  43. What the heck happened? The site's still up ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anomalous behavior. Somebody better do some checking.

  44. DUDE! by cybercomm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He still can sneak up on someone! Like in that 007 movie, when Q uses a robot to sneak up on James bond while he is screwing the latest "bond chick" anyway now all the pervs will see this page and soon well have whole streets full of those cars. Oh the humanity!

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    1. Re:DUDE! by jred · · Score: 2

      A sweet hack would be to somehow mount one on a ZipZap sized car. Even if it was used for something as nefarious as upskirts, it's still be a sweet hack. Strapping one on the back of nitro car seems kinda easy.

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  45. Videos for download by ikkyikkyikkypikang · · Score: 1
    Speedy's posted a number of videos on his website where he describes the construction process. The vid where his car winds up on its roof is most entertaining. Go Speed(y) Racer!"

    Always makes me chuckle when there are videos on some guy's DSL posted on the front page
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  46. good ol' dangling modifiers by gabec · · Score: 1

    I mean, his website looked like it was slow, not his car. ;D

    1. Re:good ol' dangling modifiers by RacenutSB · · Score: 1

      HAHA, you guys have KILLED my server today... :)

  47. What I want to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is how much x10.com paid for that link placement.

    Huh, Andover? Is this thing on?

  48. X10 Use in Theatre by Daveman692 · · Score: 1

    In our school's theatre we are doing MacBeth as our current production. We are using the X10 cameras to do live video that we are gonna show on about 16 monitors, both tvs and computer screens. They are small enough to let an actor wear and cheap enough to buy a few of em. I always despised the popups but hey, they seem to work pretty well.

  49. Noooooooo! by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "he has hooked up an XCam2"

    He supported those pop-up bastards with his money? Say it ain't so!

  50. These cars ARE fast. by SaxMaster · · Score: 3, Informative

    I used to be into racing electric R/C trucks, but I have a friend that races an HPI Nitro RS4 like the ones on the site competatively. They are VERY fast. They can out-accellerate anything else on wheels just due to the laws of physics, and the gearing on my friend's RS4 is set up to top out at 60 MPH. Any more than that is pointless because you need to be able to see the car whiz on by. My point is you should KNOW something about what you're talking about before you start talking smack. 1.2 horsepower in a tiny little car is one HELL of a power to weight ratio that not even a Ferrari F50 could match.

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    1. Re:These cars ARE fast. by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 2

      I'd like to echo the fact that these things are powerful. After racing (non competitively) electric buggies (1/12 and 1/10) for years, I bought a 1/8 nitro buggie. After about 6 months of playing, I sold it for about half of what it was worth.

      The thing would accelerate so fast that the tires (superglued to the aluminum rims) would break the seals. I eventually moved to epoxy to stop that from happening.

      My next prob was accelerating out of a turn. I could accelerate off the start with no probs, but after letting off the throttle for a few seconds before a turn, a touch of breaks, then punch it out of a turn...all I'd see was my car doing doughnuts. I upgraded to 4wd and played with toe-in/camber to control that.

      Anyway, to keep it comfortable at full speed, I ended up adjusting the throttle to only open to halfway. About 2 weeks after I sold it, they guy was wa the track and he jumped the car over his mini-van. The thing was literally about 10 feet above the ground moving at about 50mph.

      I was glad to see that my car had gone to a loving home...And my eletric car was happy to get soem attention agian.

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  51. Hopefully not Scale Speed by The+Tyro · · Score: 1

    Used to love radio-controlled cars as a kid.

    I would always read in the catalog that the car would reach speeds of 60-70mph! Wow! I thought... that's awesome!

    Until the car arrived, and I quickly realized that they weren't going anywhere near that speed. ONLY THEN did I note the asterisk in the catalog where they specified "scale speeds" of 60-70mph. Nice Marketdroid double-speak, designed to fool a kid like me, and I fell for it. Talk about feeling cheated...

    If this one really, truly goes that fast (and not "scale speed"), that's pretty amazing for a model car.

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    1. Re:Hopefully not Scale Speed by bm_luethke · · Score: 1

      no, it's not scale speed but real speed. Though realize he probably spent upwards of 1000 dollars to achieve that speed (with enough controll to keep it from quickly becoming 10000 small parts) though.

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    2. Re:Hopefully not Scale Speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope that's real speed...
      Scale Speed of a Nitro RS4 doing 60 MPH would be... you guessed it 600MPH.

      Definitely not slow by any means.

  52. a random thought... by NerveGas · · Score: 1


    "....as fast as fifty miles per hour."

    A lot of stock, commodity 1/10th scale electric RC cars can go 60 mph, out of the box. With modifications, much, MUCH faster. And that's not even getting into the gas-powered rigs.

    steve

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    1. Re:a random thought... by sevinkey · · Score: 1

      haven't personally seen any cars out of the box that go 60... usually they go about 25MPH, which is faster than you think on that small of a car, especially considering those Tyco Turbo Hoppers in the 1980's went between 5-10MPH. And man do the parts fly off when you get a curb at 25. I had to pour $1000 into a car at dealer prices to get a car that could do 40mph... The local club's record was 48MPH, clocked with the ever so accurate measure of driving it from the back of a pickup and checking the speedometer.

      To get a car to go 60, you've gotta drain those 8.4volt batteries in a minute or two, and that'll kill even the best electric speed controllers after a few runs.

      Man, thinking back makes me want to go buy another kit sometime...

    2. Re:a random thought... by Soulslayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/need_speed. asp

      From the above:

      "Our sister publication, Radio Control Nitro, featured Steve Pond's 101mph HPI Super Nitro RS4 (see the March 2001 issue). Prior to that, Cliff Lett's 24-cell Associated L3O Insane Speed Run car was clocked at 94mph at the Dominguez Hills Bicycle Velodrome in California."

      and

      "...on January 13, 2001 to break Guinness's published record and post a speed more befitting of an official world record title. The result? Legendary RC racer and Team Associated chief designer Cliff Lett spooled up his Factory Team TC3 to over 95mph and touched 111mph with an RC10 L30!"

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      Once more unto the breach dear friends...
    3. Re:a random thought... by NerveGas · · Score: 1


      You're right that Tycos won't do it, but Tycos are trash. Look at Associated, and no, it won't kill the speed controllers. A NORMAL run in an R/C heat is 4 minutes, and the motors and gears are chosen to deplete the batteries (which are very high capacity) in just over that.

      Even the off-road 1/10th RC cars go 30 mph without any modifications, and the on-road models will go 60. Add more batteries, a more powerful motor, and some numerically lower gearing, and you're ready to rock and roll!

      steve

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  53. fyi: speed record for electric r/c (5 years ago) by sevinkey · · Score: 1

    My dad runs an R/C hobby shop.... the fastest recorded speed for an electric 1/10th scale car back when I worked for him (around 5 years ago) was an RC/10 clocked at 72MPH...

    Although I could see them being higher by now...

  54. Headlline should have been... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    "Speed Racer meets Racer X-10".

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  55. even more fun! by gol64738 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    what about mounting a cam on a remote control airplane, you know one of the one's that can do like 70 miles an hour.
    imagine how fun that would be!
    you could have your car passenger search ahead for speed traps on the freeway or you could even fly the plane to the point where you lose sight of it.

    ooh, with that right transmission control, one could fly drugs up from south america on a drone aircraft..

    1. Re:even more fun! by GooberToo · · Score: 2

      what about mounting a cam on a remote control airplane

      People already do this. Mostly for fun, however, I semi-recently read about an ecologist using a remote control electric plane (with cammera; IIRC, it was a modified Wingo or Tipsy) to observe tree top wild life in various jungle preserves. The range was something like 1 1/2 miles and was piloted by means of live video.

      ooh, with that right transmission control, one could fly drugs up from south america on a drone aircraft..

      This has been done for years now. Large R/C planes are loaded with drugs and flown over the Texas/Mexican boarder. They were discovered when crash remains were found and later they were caught on tape. Eventually, they were followed by helicopters. I don't know if this is still done.

  56. Nitro's are pretty insane. by Shanep · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I met up with a friend who wanted to see my 1/8th scale landmax Evo in action. He brought his little Tamiya electric so that we could play together...

    By the time I fueled my car and got it started, his batteries had run out. : )

    Once mine was running, he put his away in disgust. Anyone who's never seen Nitro RC in action has not a clue of the incredible performance.

    Mine gets up to 70kph with the single speed gearbox and 140kph(!) with the automatic 3 speed gearbox (which I wish I had).

    They can be finicky to tune though, even with a slight change in fuel.

    I get nervous every time I take it out and fire it up. Once I rather stupidly (in all the excitement) started the engine before switching on the transmitter. I pulled the rip cord and then WAAAHHHHH... off it took all on it's own, fully open (carb). Luckily I did remember to switch on the receiver so all I had to do was grab the transmitter and switch it on quickly to avoid slamming the thing into something.

    I like to think of it as an RC car that goes on 67% Indycar fuel, 15% dymamite, 18% lube. : )

    No matter where I take this thing, kids just come out of the woodwork from all directions, it's amazing what attention you get. People driving by stop and watch, kids or no kids. : )

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  57. Laying it on a bit thick, no? by tulare · · Score: 2

    I mean, what this guy has done is certainly a creative and dare I say worthy use of one of those nefarious X10 pervcams, but damn... Calling an Intel Indeo avi a QuickTime movie is pretty damn irritating, particularly given the fact that it won't ever play on OS X without borking the creator codes. If you're lucky that'll work. And don't even get me started on divx. Just a thought to people who want videos posted somewhere like /. - think mpeg.

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  58. Offtopic post, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OMFG! I was just about to start reading this article, and lo and behold, what do I see but an ad for, um, brace yourselves, Microsoft Visual Studio .Net. I shit you not. Doubleclick has to be the biggest slut in the current universe.

  59. yeah.... so not to burst his bubble by snowontrees · · Score: 1

    i did this with my digital camera... i'm not saying i'm the first to do so, but i've had it up for a little while.. they're really fun videos.. check them out on my website

    the videos are located here

    i have a few more.. i could email them to you or something if you really really like the two up there :D

  60. not to burst his bubble.... by snowontrees · · Score: 1

    i've got two videos up on my site of the same thing.. i've had them up for a bit.. i'm not saying i'm the first to do this.. but they're fun videos none the less...

  61. Nice to hear from X10 again by lewp · · Score: 1

    Since I started using Mozilla's built-in popup blocking I haven't seen any of their delightful ads. It's good to hear they're still around.

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    1. Re:Nice to hear from X10 again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I guess they've realized this kind of story on /. is much more profitable than those annoying pop-ups.

  62. X10, I don't think so by dr_canak · · Score: 1

    Where the hell is the picture of the babe in the black cocktail dress, the scantilly clad bikini vixen? We all know this is what you get to see when you use an X10. And don't try to defend this, hiding behind some lame logic saying those kinds of women don't attend nitro R/C racing. I know they must, i know they must.

  63. sheesh by caveat · · Score: 2

    have you checked out the specs on these cars? they've modded them out more than i've done to my REAL car (yes,i drive an import [240SX]. no, i'm not a ricer. yes, all the parts i've put on are performance so far [swaybars, springs/adjustable struts, intake/headers/exhaust, chip, and matching cams])...they've probably spent more money, too...

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  64. Yeah, I do that, too. by Gabrill · · Score: 1

    I have an electric TC3, which is the same size, but runs on 6 1.2 volt NiCad or NiMH batteries. It's a pretty cool sport.

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  65. You've gotta be kidding me. . . by PhxBlue · · Score: 2

    X10 has tech support. Moreover, at least as far as this article implies, X10 has decent tech support! Hell with cameras, maybe these folks should write an OS. . .

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    1. Re:You've gotta be kidding me. . . by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      X10 was actually a reputable home automation company... I guess they got a new marketing department or something.

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  66. R/C Short Film by derrickh · · Score: 2

    I made a short film which is an homage to some of the great car chase scenes, except using only RC cars. It's called MiniMall Security. It's at diabolicalfilms.com.

    As you can see in the barR/C videos, the sense of speed when you film a car that low to the ground is incredible.

    D

  67. We've got the camera... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

    now all we need are some explosives and we can play a wholesome round of Diablo Destruction!

  68. And...and.... by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

    how fast was the car clocked??

    1. Re:And...and.... by pyr0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was clocked at around 26mph with the stock motor. Since then I've put a 12 turn racing motor in that boosted the speed up into the high 30's roughly. I haven't been able to get it radar clocked again, but I do know it will catch up to and pass cars driving down the street easily if they're doing around 25-30.

    2. Re:And...and.... by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

      Cool, thanks.

      Back where I used to live, some guys started a small business in R/C.

      They had a nice paved surface for "Road Racing", a dirt track and a small airfield.

      Saturdays were a hoot when half a dozen guys and girls would take their cars out and some others would have their aircraft there.

      They would even have a "regatta" at the Red Cross water safety pond.

      This article brought the shop back to my mind, I've been away for about five years.

      Their little shop, which had a nice storefront operation and a big mail order business, is here.

  69. Re:Videos: What format? - Indeo by gav1n · · Score: 1

    http://www.ligos.com/indeo/indeo.shtm

  70. X10 Spam by macdaddy · · Score: 3, Funny
    In a related story: in an official press release "Speedy" Shayne Barr proclaimed he would "never use email again". This comes after Speedy was bombarded with spam from X10 Inc after purchasing an XCam2.
    "I thought their popups were bad but after buying something from them, the amount of spam in my mail box has quadrupled overnight! I can't eat, I can't sleep. My children are teased at school as 'the offspring of the X-10 sucker'. We're thinking about moving to Hoboken, New Jersey and changing our family name to Clinton."

    Here's at Nakes Slashdot News, we'd just like to give our condolences to the Speedy family. Our thoughts and spam are with you.

    Coming up next on Heraldo Rivera:

    Meet the man behind the spam

    My wife left me because my internet pipe wasn't big enough

    cross-dressing transexual CTOs that use OutLook

    Don't touch that dial. We'll be right back

  71. Nitro RS/4s and Micros... by nooch · · Score: 3, Interesting


    My brother recently (a couple of months ago) put together his Nitro RS/4, and the thing is pretty damn fast. We started with a couple of Micro RS/4 kits (the 1/18th scale), battery powered all wheel drive cars. The micros are fun but your batteries start dying right away and you only have peak performance for a short while. Of course, a 6 cell pack makes for some fun. My uncle actually got us turned on to these, and his 1/18th scale micro with a nice engine and a one-way front diff. (dare I list the rest of the mods??)... well, he gets the little car up over 45mph. I will leave his big 1/8th scale cars out of this.

    My brother has been wanting to strap a camera on his Nitro, and has been looking for a good way to do it. I recommended against hooking the Canon GL-2 to the top. I jokingly suggested an X10, but am surprised, not to see it done, but to see it on the front page of /. Kick ass! These cars are a riot, and there are lots of cool hacks. You can get different bodies for the cars (not too expensive), and painting them is half the fun for me (I am not as good at making them fast, so I make them look cool). I would recommend checking out the HPI site, and check out the forum. There is quite a community surrounding these cars. There are even races for the micros here in Ann Arbor that I know of.

    I better shut up now! -J

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  72. Not impressed by tassii · · Score: 1

    I used to race RC drag cars. The "Top Fuel" class used to hit 100 mph in 120 feet. On batteries.

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    1. Re:Not impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a straight line? So what? :)

  73. RC and Video by Guipo · · Score: 0

    During the .Com boom, we used to do this at work, with X10 camaras. We could sit in one room, and drive our cars arond the whole office. It was really interesting the amount of crap we could get away with.

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  74. This is such an OLD idea... by eaddict · · Score: 2

    if I thought it was new worthy I would have posted my own. I did this a long time ago with my R/C jeep. I even did it one step cooler. I raced by ONLY watching the TV. The jeep I have is an electric one so it didn't go so fast. The guys with the fast gas powered engines laughed at my pace. One of them let me move my camera to his car - then he slowed quite a bit after his billionth crash. It is a lot different driving from the drivers point of view vs from a grand stand.

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    1. Re:This is such an OLD idea... by RacenutSB · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I did it a long time ago too. What was this guy thinking? Oh shit... that guy was ME! HAHA Anyone wanna buy an RC Car? I'll even include the XCam ;)

  75. what's with the mounting? by chryptic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm just wondering why he left the camera in the bulky casing?

    I've pulled one apart and rewired the AV/power to a longer cable so the small lense could be mounted apart from the bulky base.

    The transmitter itself is a single board with a low profile radio/shield.

    The antenna is a 2.4 Ghz directional. It can easily be replaced with an omni directional antana that will give a better transmition as well as lessen the impact on areodynamics.

    The batery pack consists of a small circuit board, the clips for 4xAA batteries, and a big bulky case. A lot of space could be saved by getting rid of the big ugly case.

    I think it may be possible to mount the whole camera behind the windshield.

    Just a thought.

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  76. Airplanes by msheppard · · Score: 2

    More exciting is putting cameras on airplanes. Seeing something you are unable to see yourself is more exciting than the view from 2 inches off the ground.

    M@

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    1. Re:Airplanes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      look here (pictures and videos of airplane-mounted XCAMs).

  77. What's with all the speed? by cjsnell · · Score: 2

    I don't really understand the obsession with fast RC cars. A couple of years ago, I built an HPI Super Nitro kit and ran it around the parking lot. It was fun. A few weeks later, I threw a $70 exhaust system on it, which increased the performance dramatically. Unfortunately, the damned thing became so fast that it was just about undrivable. Even in the biggest of parking lots, you could only run it for a few seconds before you had to cut power and turn to avoid a curb. With all this new speed, my car went through tires like mad and every crash was much more expensive.

    IMHO, R/C is a crazy money pit. The more you spend, the more you have to spend. I ended up giving the car to a friend when I could no longer justify spending $30 on repairs every time I drove it.

    1. Re:What's with all the speed? by RacenutSB · · Score: 1

      HAHA, you just have to learn to DRIVE THE BITCH! :)

  78. Alternatives to X10 Camera by cjsnell · · Score: 2

    Does anyone other than X10.com make a camera like this? I will never purchase from those clowns again. A couple of years ago, I tried to buy their X10 starter kit. I placed an order but they let me go for over a month without any communications before I finally called to enquire about the status my purchase (which I then cancelled).

  79. I put an XCAM on an R/C airplane by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Pictures, movies, and info are available here.

    One of the planes has a steerable camera (radio controled also).

    - Yann

  80. Mod up PLEASE, I have none. by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 2


    Very cool... and right on topic.

  81. Re:WE MUST NOT DESTROY X10 by bsd+is+dying+lololol · · Score: 0

    bsd is dying lololol i am suhc a LUnix geex0r.woot wo00t

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