Ok I hear a LOT of people talking about how they'd rather just get a t-1 run to their house (read pipedream)....
Anyway... just incase you were really thinking about it.
1st.... contact your regional Telco and check out the pricing to lease the line. Depending on your location to the POP of the ISP/Tier service provider you want, this will run about $1500/mo
not to mention hefty install prices
2nd... Contact an ISP/Tier Service provider to see what the cost of the Internet connection would be.
(Better to go with a Tier1 provider like Sprintlink here... That way you KNOW your on a fat backbone rather than having your T run to an ISP that has 2000 dialups, a couple dds56K circuits and 3 more T-1's all going on a 3MB outbound pipe:)) So go figure about another $1650 a month
3rd... don't forget the extra equipment, CSU/DSU (I recommend a good Kentrox), get yourself a decent router, Cisco 26xx would be good..
4th... Get ready to dowload your pr0n!!!!!
so all in all, figure into about 3K/month for your T-1 and about 10K in setup fees...
This is one of the reasons why mid-high speed access is expensive, the ISP's must expand their network infrastructure so you don't have similar problems that the telco's have today, and bottleneck all their customers.
(Most phone networks were created using the average call time of 5-10 minutes.... PRE-INTERNET days)
Sure the wavelengths may penetrate clouds, but...
I've noticed on my dish that my signal|noise Ratio drops depends on...
1) Heavy Winds (Even though the dish is Bolted right on the side of my house)
2) Foliage... (During the winter I get a better signal than summer)
3) Snow!!!! yes A good snowstorm can drop your signal quicker than anything.. now It's pretty easy to keep on cleaning off your dish if you mounted it right outside a window like I did, but there are a lot of people in my who have to mount way up on top of a pole/house/whatever to clear the mountains to even get a clear signal to the sat... If it is at all possible..
Now since I work for an ISP I'm just wondering.. Will the customers call the help desk and complain during the winter about their connectivity, only to find out that they can't get to the roof of their house in a blizzard to clean it off???
Now the idea comes to mind of running a thermostatically controlled heating wire on the rim of the dish that would keep it above 45 F
The other thing I have done for some other offices in the middle of the Styx is setup multi-link (If your ISP will allow it) or grab yourself a WebRamp 310i and set it up for a couple different lines/accounts (Webramps use both Multilink and Cobra protocols to bond the lines) I've seen some people connect better with 2 analogs bonded than with an ISDN connection not only that, the webramps are a little pricey (~$500 U.S.D.) , but they come with built in NAT support as well as a built in 4-5 port HUB.. Perfect for the home LAN
They are also SNMP Based with a built in web interface so you can truly use them cross-platform-wise:)
But that only really helps if the price of the second/third phone line will pay off, but hey!!! It's an option!
As a sys admin for a rural ISP who is delving into Broadband shortly it's been really nice to hear some of these posts. At least the majority of these rants are going to telco/cable companies and not the ISP. Really, our hands are pretty much tied as it comes to getting access to most people.
We work with 2 local/small telcos and 2 larger ones (corporate conglomerate types). The local ones are pretty hip with maintaining a QOS and are self proclaimed "fast followers". I think our biggest mistake (the ISP) was when we jumped on the v90 bandwagon too soon. It has been my experience that
1. Internal Modems are pretty much shitty across the board... granted some companies (3com/USR and Supra to name a couple) are pretty good at keeping their modem firm/software up to snuff.
2. RAS server companies are pretty hesitant about "upgrading" their TAOS/COMOS to keep up with "new"/"cheap" industry standard modems that keep coming out on these machines that you can get for free, etc...
3. You might buy an expensive machine, but nine times out of ten the modem might be a $10 POS..
( My analogy to the less savvy customers is What Kind of Tires did you buy on your car?..... Look at the recent recall of the tires on your expensive Ford Explorer for further insight)
Granted the average or even = average/.er pretty much knows their system / drivers, but then again the internet access business has grown from a "toy" of the hacker types into a must-have god-given right of everyone it seems
4. Wireless/satellite might be an option for some, but I know my DSS goes out in bad weather occasionally, but do I call DirectTV???? nope... I just know it's the weather and do something else. Most of our customers are immediately on the phone to our help desk during a friggin hurricane wondering why their connection is crappy/cut short... and then that's after the phone lines are finally restored !!!!
and I guess my point is "yes" dialup is going the way of the 8-track/BetaMax/and regular gas, but there are still going to be areas that will ONLY be able to do dialup, and even with the best equipment (on both the user and ISP end) will get less than optimum connection/throughput speeds due to phone companies. Most telcos will only "guarantee"(and I say that loosely) a 9600 connection.. Hell with that sort of guarantee here's a suggestion for those with REALLY Bad service...
get a buddy with a fat connection ISDN/DSL/etc...
setup a couple old supra 33.6 modems on serial ports and run pppd (you can even tweak W98SE to do the same thing).
56K can't work without digital RAS, but a 33.6 to 33.6 connection is pretty solid, and the throughput is much better than a shitty 56K connection.
Eventually the telco's are going to catch up with their empty promises, but please remember there are some unscrupulous (sp?) ISP's out there, but a LOT of us are out there trying to help.. but our hands are tied by the telcos, as they always have been.
Standard troubleshooting procedures have found that the "problems" with most internet connections have to do with the medium that they are running through. Telco's hardly ever setup their network considering that connection times would be greater than the average phone call (~5-10 minutes) and in some locations we still have customers with party lines... try that one on for size!!!
Well I'm just letting off steam, but thanks guys.. after hearing these posts, I'm glad to hear that not EVERYONE thinks that It's always the ISP's fault
BTW I've also noticed that the customers who lose $40K on the stock market after AOL/IM's server crashed or a backbone provider had a fibre cut are also those who have problems paying $19.95 a month:)
They also are great shoes for kitchens... I wore them all the time as a chef.. They resisted grease spills, protected your feet with their leather tops, and also looked pretty slick with the chef check pants:P
I LOOOVE those shoes...
I bought my first pair of the Adi Dassler Samba indoor football shoes back in 6th grade.. They lasted forever!!!.. and the best part is that if you ever needed dress up shoes, all you needed to do was to take some black shoe polish to the three white stripes down the sides:)
It's funny, but I still wear them (No, not the same pair) today.. The average lifespan of sambas when taken care of is 3+ Years.. of course back then I'd grow out of them before they broke down..
But hey they're pretty inexpensive as well
Unfortunately if you dialup a 56K Analog Modem from another Analog Modem(like your dreamcast has in it), your best throughput will be around 33.6 since the compression needed for k56/v90 is only attainable through a digital RAS box... However all is not lost. Since you will be connecting at v.34, your transmit and receive rates will be closer to a 1:1 ratio which will mean less apparent "lag"...due to interpretation of the games' sense of lag. So you might even be better off than someone who is connecting at a 53K download, but is only uploading at 24000.
Actually even though we (I work for a middling-sized ISP) keep radius records of users connections and which POP they access from, It's not because of a privacy issue. Sure I've been called out by the State Police to track down malicious email, threats, harrassing websites, etc... But the primary reason is that way when (l)users call up asking how long they've been on for a month, we can tell them. Also, say they claim they stopped using their account the first week, but we have transactions of that account coming from a different area for the rest of the month, we can tell that the account has been compromised.. Trust me, as a net-admin, I have far better things to do than run a tcpdump on each of my Ras-boxen to see who's seeing whom's dirty sites.(That's what my cache server logs are for:)) I'd rather spend my time doing more productive things like a recursive grep through the mail logs and forwarding a copy to the offenders parents/wife/etc.... But seriously Radius logs are usually kept for customers who would be the first to complain.... I didn't even USE the account!!! but this opens up a whole new can of worms
So which would you rather deal with Telemarketers (yeah sure you give me YOUR home phone# and I'll call you when I'm free)
Annoying Pauses wehn you DO answer the phone (I usually hang up on them immediately, or let them try to sell their product to my three year old who just LOOOVES to talk on the phone)
or a telemarketer who hangs up when you answer (I agree with the above poster about that being a little disconcerting)
well I guess they went the way of door-to-door salesmen... What's the next great Arthur Miller Spin off..... Death of a Telemarketer (Spammer)???
i still have my original Mac 1984 running somewhere at home with the system on an external 20MB HD.... If you'd like the system software, I'd be more than happy to send you a copy, but I need to get it on 800K floppies, and I'm having a tough time finding them. I also have a bunch of old 5 1/4's for my Apple II, Infocom stuff, Bards Tale, etc... but I'm REALLY looking for a copy of the old Galactic Trilogy (Empire,Trader,Revolution).... oh the memories
hmm well it would have to be a higher frequency than the speed you were travelling, and hopefully it won't work nearly as poorly, since I've seen deer "trapped" in between the effective range of those stupid whistles (for those of you who have no idea of deer whistles are.. my apologies)
Actually that was the "caterpillar drive" which was supposedly capable of near-silent propulsion. An interesting site for submarine technology, etc.. is over at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/subsecrets/
God is most certainly not dead.... I keep seeing him pop up as the admin on every initial installation of slashcode.... I'm just upset that the passwd is the first name of my manager Who promptly took over that account:)
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I loved the pics with the sneakers... It reminded me of High School Days (Mid 80's) when all we... (geek/nerd/semi-jocks who played soccer/ski-racers/tennis....) wore were Adidas Sambas... The reason They Lasted for at least 3 years, (well before they moved the factory from France to Taiwan) and you could always remove the 3 white stripes and heel print with some black shoe polish and voila.... Dress shoes that you could scrimmage with less than 2 minutes after whatever dress-up function you had to go to... I found them handy for running block-tackle as I dragged my best friend from his *first* wedding
I use both MRTG and Big Brother for different situations and circumstances... Big Brother is pretty easy to setup and it's pages (Both Web and pager/email/call-you-in-the-middle-of-the-night-an d-piss-off-your-wife functions work almost too well:) ) MRTG has it beat hands down though as far as reporting graphs of utilization though
I really needed to hear a response from a sentient being whose neural network doesn't just stop at the spinal cord... After the whole Y2K fiasco with (l)users getting paranoid and frantic over FUD I appreciate knowing that there are some of us who aren't just living by reflex alone..... Thanks again:)
First of all, as stated above, Dividing M$ is like attacking various oozes and slimes in the D&D world, Physically attacking them only divides them further in which each part then becomes another formidible entity which you then have to fight.
Secondly, As I see constantly in my line of work (ISP) The masses still think that Microsoft is the only answer.. yeah there are quite a few mac-heads, and the occasional Linux user around, but given the "choice" more people are heading towards Microsoft.. Reason? PLACEMENT, I live in a rural area where most people do their "technological" shopping at Wal-mart/Ames/K-mart what have you, and are easily swayed by cheap costs and what the salespeople are pushing at them.. including computers that have shoddy parts (i.e. Rockwell HCF 56K modems with drivers in them from 8 months ago) and even less technical support.. But they don't look for that, they see the ads on TV showing sharks swimming from the screen and how it's going to raise your kids IQ from cro-magnon level to rival Stephan Hawking, then give my staff and I shit about how pages aren't loading quick enough at a 26.4 connection.
3. What about updating their shoddy code??? Does that mean that people are now going to have to even search THAT much harder to find updates to their MS products (see #2)
Don't get me wrong, I'm doing the dance of joy for the breakup of M$, I'm just a little leery (no not Denis) of what the future holds for us..... C'mon B.G. is so used to falling face first in feces and come up smiling and fresh as a daisy he makes the other Bill (Clinton) pale in comparison.
ok ok moderate me down now, Im through venting... Thanks all
My vote goes for the millions of "intelligent" IS types who were inexplicibly suffocated this weekend when they tried pulling their feet out of their mouths when their heads were all ready firmly lodged in their posterior regions
It is because the Y2K bug was only invoked in the U.S. versions of Software... You may be laughing now, but watch come 12:00 EST as our wonderful plan comes together to overthrow the imperialist U.S.:) *side note: So that means that all my luser/customers should be safe, I mean they DO buy all the cheapest hardware/software at the trade shows, and don't they all have those !Not for Sale in the U.S.! and !Educational Purposes Only! Stickers on them???*
Remember folks this is but a lame attempt at humour!!! ok REALLY Lame attempt
OK, got a fax from my dad in NZ this am, and he warned me about his Y2K problem... knocked over his Canterbury Draught... So in deference to Him, I've decided to Saran Wrap my workstation "You can never be too careful"
OK let's try that again.... hmmm, isn't this the predecessor to the novel "The Doorway into Summer" by Robert A. Heinlen... What's next... cryo-engineering so we can all sleep to the year 2003?... oh yeah he wrote that a long time ago, the protagonist slept from 1973 to 2003, after creating "household hannah" (I forgot the real name) an automated vacuum cleaner/housemaid, then went into suspended animation to come back in the future to harass some shady business partners oh well, moderate this one down to oblivion, for it IS kinda offtopic.. sorry folks
If you haven't all figured out by now, Responding to ANY sort of/. article dealing with encryption, The Alphabits bowl of cereal the US Government Hides behind (NSA, CIA, DEA, FBI, BLM, DOJ, MS, HUD, LMNOP...) automatically kicks the chemical tracking elements that are implemented in caffeine (most noticably in Mt.Dew coffee, surge and jolt.. ever wonder why they called them JAVA cookies????) and are transferred through our keyboards through an electro-chemical process which identifies us through our own unique keyboard typing stresses, that returns the MAC addresses of our brains and livers to the great datawarehouse that is buried right next to the Church of Latter-Day Saints geneology archives in Big Cottonwood Canyon, or is it Little?????.. So when the revolution comes, they will be able to track us down and put us to use encoding the records of the world in a new technological breakthrough for Y2K... the keypunch... NOOOOO... I went through that once.. never again... Now where did I put that red pill?????
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Ok I hear a LOT of people talking about how they'd rather just get a t-1 run to their house (read pipedream).... :)) So go figure about another $1650 a month
Anyway... just incase you were really thinking about it.
1st.... contact your regional Telco and check out the pricing to lease the line. Depending on your location to the POP of the ISP/Tier service provider you want, this will run about $1500/mo
not to mention hefty install prices
2nd... Contact an ISP/Tier Service provider to see what the cost of the Internet connection would be.
(Better to go with a Tier1 provider like Sprintlink here... That way you KNOW your on a fat backbone rather than having your T run to an ISP that has 2000 dialups, a couple dds56K circuits and 3 more T-1's all going on a 3MB outbound pipe
3rd... don't forget the extra equipment, CSU/DSU (I recommend a good Kentrox), get yourself a decent router, Cisco 26xx would be good..
4th... Get ready to dowload your pr0n!!!!!
so all in all, figure into about 3K/month for your T-1 and about 10K in setup fees...
This is one of the reasons why mid-high speed access is expensive, the ISP's must expand their network infrastructure so you don't have similar problems that the telco's have today, and bottleneck all their customers.
(Most phone networks were created using the average call time of 5-10 minutes.... PRE-INTERNET days)
Sure the wavelengths may penetrate clouds, but...
I've noticed on my dish that my signal|noise Ratio drops depends on...
1) Heavy Winds (Even though the dish is Bolted right on the side of my house)
2) Foliage... (During the winter I get a better signal than summer)
3) Snow!!!! yes A good snowstorm can drop your signal quicker than anything.. now It's pretty easy to keep on cleaning off your dish if you mounted it right outside a window like I did, but there are a lot of people in my who have to mount way up on top of a pole/house/whatever to clear the mountains to even get a clear signal to the sat... If it is at all possible..
Now since I work for an ISP I'm just wondering.. Will the customers call the help desk and complain during the winter about their connectivity, only to find out that they can't get to the roof of their house in a blizzard to clean it off???
Now the idea comes to mind of running a thermostatically controlled heating wire on the rim of the dish that would keep it above 45 F
The other thing I have done for some other offices in the middle of the Styx is setup multi-link (If your ISP will allow it) or grab yourself a WebRamp 310i and set it up for a couple different lines/accounts (Webramps use both Multilink and Cobra protocols to bond the lines) I've seen some people connect better with 2 analogs bonded than with an ISDN connection not only that, the webramps are a little pricey (~$500 U.S.D.) , but they come with built in NAT support as well as a built in 4-5 port HUB.. Perfect for the home LAN :)
They are also SNMP Based with a built in web interface so you can truly use them cross-platform-wise
But that only really helps if the price of the second/third phone line will pay off, but hey!!! It's an option!
As a sys admin for a rural ISP who is delving into Broadband shortly it's been really nice to hear some of these posts. At least the majority of these rants are going to telco/cable companies and not the ISP. Really, our hands are pretty much tied as it comes to getting access to most people.
/.er pretty much knows their system / drivers, but then again the internet access business has grown from a "toy" of the hacker types into a must-have god-given right of everyone it seems
:)
We work with 2 local/small telcos and 2 larger ones (corporate conglomerate types). The local ones are pretty hip with maintaining a QOS and are self proclaimed "fast followers". I think our biggest mistake (the ISP) was when we jumped on the v90 bandwagon too soon. It has been my experience that
1. Internal Modems are pretty much shitty across the board... granted some companies (3com/USR and Supra to name a couple) are pretty good at keeping their modem firm/software up to snuff.
2. RAS server companies are pretty hesitant about "upgrading" their TAOS/COMOS to keep up with "new"/"cheap" industry standard modems that keep coming out on these machines that you can get for free, etc...
3. You might buy an expensive machine, but nine times out of ten the modem might be a $10 POS..
( My analogy to the less savvy customers is What Kind of Tires did you buy on your car?..... Look at the recent recall of the tires on your expensive Ford Explorer for further insight)
Granted the average or even = average
4. Wireless/satellite might be an option for some, but I know my DSS goes out in bad weather occasionally, but do I call DirectTV???? nope... I just know it's the weather and do something else. Most of our customers are immediately on the phone to our help desk during a friggin hurricane wondering why their connection is crappy/cut short... and then that's after the phone lines are finally restored !!!!
and I guess my point is "yes" dialup is going the way of the 8-track/BetaMax/and regular gas, but there are still going to be areas that will ONLY be able to do dialup, and even with the best equipment (on both the user and ISP end) will get less than optimum connection/throughput speeds due to phone companies. Most telcos will only "guarantee"(and I say that loosely) a 9600 connection.. Hell with that sort of guarantee here's a suggestion for those with REALLY Bad service...
get a buddy with a fat connection ISDN/DSL/etc...
setup a couple old supra 33.6 modems on serial ports and run pppd (you can even tweak W98SE to do the same thing).
56K can't work without digital RAS, but a 33.6 to 33.6 connection is pretty solid, and the throughput is much better than a shitty 56K connection.
Eventually the telco's are going to catch up with their empty promises, but please remember there are some unscrupulous (sp?) ISP's out there, but a LOT of us are out there trying to help.. but our hands are tied by the telcos, as they always have been.
Standard troubleshooting procedures have found that the "problems" with most internet connections have to do with the medium that they are running through. Telco's hardly ever setup their network considering that connection times would be greater than the average phone call (~5-10 minutes) and in some locations we still have customers with party lines... try that one on for size!!!
Well I'm just letting off steam, but thanks guys.. after hearing these posts, I'm glad to hear that not EVERYONE thinks that It's always the ISP's fault
BTW I've also noticed that the customers who lose $40K on the stock market after AOL/IM's server crashed or a backbone provider had a fibre cut are also those who have problems paying $19.95 a month
Thanks for listening
They also are great shoes for kitchens... I wore them all the time as a chef.. They resisted grease spills, protected your feet with their leather tops, and also looked pretty slick with the chef check pants :P
I LOOOVE those shoes... :)
I bought my first pair of the Adi Dassler Samba indoor football shoes back in 6th grade.. They lasted forever!!!.. and the best part is that if you ever needed dress up shoes, all you needed to do was to take some black shoe polish to the three white stripes down the sides
It's funny, but I still wear them (No, not the same pair) today.. The average lifespan of sambas when taken care of is 3+ Years.. of course back then I'd grow out of them before they broke down..
But hey they're pretty inexpensive as well
Unfortunately if you dialup a 56K Analog Modem from another Analog Modem(like your dreamcast has in it), your best throughput will be around 33.6 since the compression needed for k56/v90 is only attainable through a digital RAS box... However all is not lost. Since you will be connecting at v.34, your transmit and receive rates will be closer to a 1:1 ratio which will mean less apparent "lag"...due to interpretation of the games' sense of lag. So you might even be better off than someone who is connecting at a 53K download, but is only uploading at 24000.
Actually even though we (I work for a middling-sized ISP) keep radius records of users connections and which POP they access from, It's not because of a privacy issue. Sure I've been called out by the State Police to track down malicious email, threats, harrassing websites, etc... But the primary reason is that way when (l)users call up asking how long they've been on for a month, we can tell them. Also, say they claim they stopped using their account the first week, but we have transactions of that account coming from a different area for the rest of the month, we can tell that the account has been compromised.. :)) I'd rather spend my time doing more productive things like a recursive grep through the mail logs and forwarding a copy to the offenders parents/wife/etc.... But seriously Radius logs are usually kept for customers who would be the first to complain.... I didn't even USE the account!!!
Trust me, as a net-admin, I have far better things to do than run a tcpdump on each of my Ras-boxen to see who's seeing whom's dirty sites.(That's what my cache server logs are for
but this opens up a whole new can of worms
So which would you rather deal with
Telemarketers (yeah sure you give me YOUR home phone# and I'll call you when I'm free)
Annoying Pauses wehn you DO answer the phone (I usually hang up on them immediately, or let them try to sell their product to my three year old who just LOOOVES to talk on the phone)
or a telemarketer who hangs up when you answer (I agree with the above poster about that being a little disconcerting)
well I guess they went the way of door-to-door salesmen... What's the next great Arthur Miller Spin off..... Death of a Telemarketer (Spammer)???
I believe that is the OS that I am running on the machine mentioned below this thread... Sorry....
i still have my original Mac 1984 running somewhere at home with the system on an external 20MB HD.... If you'd like the system software, I'd be more than happy to send you a copy, but I need to get it on 800K floppies, and I'm having a tough time finding them. I also have a bunch of old 5 1/4's for my Apple II, Infocom stuff, Bards Tale, etc... but I'm REALLY looking for a copy of the old Galactic Trilogy (Empire,Trader,Revolution).... oh the memories
hmm well it would have to be a higher frequency than the speed you were travelling, and hopefully it won't work nearly as poorly, since I've seen deer "trapped" in between the effective range of those stupid whistles
(for those of you who have no idea of deer whistles are.. my apologies)
Actually that was the "caterpillar drive" which was supposedly capable of near-silent propulsion.
An interesting site for submarine technology, etc.. is over at http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/subsecrets/
God is most certainly not dead.... I keep seeing him pop up as the admin on every initial installation of slashcode.... :)
I'm just upset that the passwd is the first name of my manager Who promptly took over that account
I loved the pics with the sneakers...
It reminded me of High School Days (Mid 80's) when all we... (geek/nerd/semi-jocks who played soccer/ski-racers/tennis....) wore were Adidas Sambas... The reason They Lasted for at least 3 years, (well before they moved the factory from France to Taiwan) and you could always remove the 3 white stripes and heel print with some black shoe polish and voila.... Dress shoes that you could scrimmage with less than 2 minutes after whatever dress-up function you had to go to...
I found them handy for running block-tackle as I dragged my best friend from his *first* wedding
I use both MRTG and Big Brother for different situations and circumstances... Big Brother is pretty easy to setup and it's pages (Both Web and pager/email/call-you-in-the-middle-of-the-night-an d-piss-off-your-wife functions work almost too well :) ) MRTG has it beat hands down though as far as reporting graphs of utilization though
Hey.... stop reading /. and get back to answering the phones.................... :)
Your BOSS
I really needed to hear a response from a sentient being whose neural network doesn't just stop at the spinal cord... After the whole Y2K fiasco with (l)users getting paranoid and frantic over FUD I appreciate knowing that there are some of us who aren't just living by reflex alone..... :)
Thanks again
First of all, as stated above, Dividing M$ is like attacking various oozes and slimes in the D&D world, Physically attacking them only divides them further in which each part then becomes another formidible entity which you then have to fight.
Secondly,
As I see constantly in my line of work (ISP) The masses still think that Microsoft is the only answer.. yeah there are quite a few mac-heads, and the occasional Linux user around, but given the "choice" more people are heading towards Microsoft.. Reason? PLACEMENT, I live in a rural area where most people do their "technological" shopping at Wal-mart/Ames/K-mart what have you, and are easily swayed by cheap costs and what the salespeople are pushing at them.. including computers that have shoddy parts (i.e. Rockwell HCF 56K modems with drivers in them from 8 months ago) and even less technical support.. But they don't look for that, they see the ads on TV showing sharks swimming from the screen and how it's going to raise your kids IQ from cro-magnon level to rival Stephan Hawking, then give my staff and I shit about how pages aren't loading quick enough at a 26.4 connection.
3. What about updating their shoddy code??? Does that mean that people are now going to have to even search THAT much harder to find updates to their MS products (see #2)
Don't get me wrong, I'm doing the dance of joy for the breakup of M$, I'm just a little leery (no not Denis) of what the future holds for us.....
C'mon B.G. is so used to falling face first in feces and come up smiling and fresh as a daisy he makes the other Bill (Clinton) pale in comparison.
ok ok moderate me down now, Im through venting... Thanks all
My vote goes for the millions of "intelligent" IS types who were inexplicibly suffocated this weekend when they tried pulling their feet out of their mouths when their heads were all ready firmly lodged in their posterior regions
yeah yeah moderate me down to non-existance
It is because the Y2K bug was only invoked in the U.S. versions of Software... You may be laughing now, but watch come 12:00 EST as our wonderful plan comes together to overthrow the imperialist U.S. :)
*side note: So that means that all my luser/customers should be safe, I mean they DO buy all the cheapest hardware/software at the trade shows, and don't they all have those !Not for Sale in the U.S.! and !Educational Purposes Only! Stickers on them???*
Remember folks this is but a lame attempt at humour!!! ok REALLY Lame attempt
What about our mentor Al Gore ? *GRIN*
a cyberjuggernaut/politcally sound/hep cat like that is a definate ringer for this arena
yeah yeah moderate this down into oblivion
OK, got a fax from my dad in NZ this am, and he warned me about his Y2K problem... knocked over his Canterbury Draught...
So in deference to Him, I've decided to Saran Wrap my workstation "You can never be too careful"
OK let's try that again....
hmmm, isn't this the predecessor to the novel "The Doorway into Summer" by Robert A. Heinlen...
What's next... cryo-engineering so we can all sleep to the year 2003?... oh yeah he wrote that a long time ago, the protagonist slept from 1973 to 2003, after creating "household hannah" (I forgot the real name) an automated vacuum cleaner/housemaid, then went into suspended animation to come back in the future to harass some shady business partners
oh well, moderate this one down to oblivion, for it IS kinda offtopic.. sorry folks
If you haven't all figured out by now, /. article dealing with encryption, The Alphabits bowl of cereal the US Government Hides behind (NSA, CIA, DEA, FBI, BLM, DOJ, MS, HUD, LMNOP...) automatically kicks the chemical tracking elements that are implemented in caffeine (most noticably in Mt.Dew coffee, surge and jolt.. ever wonder why they called them JAVA cookies????) and are transferred through our keyboards through an electro-chemical process which identifies us through our own unique keyboard typing stresses, that returns the MAC addresses of our brains and livers to the great datawarehouse that is buried right next to the Church of Latter-Day Saints geneology archives in Big Cottonwood Canyon, or is it Little?????.. So when the revolution comes, they will be able to track us down and put us to use encoding the records of the world in a new technological breakthrough for Y2K... the keypunch...
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NOOOOO... I went through that once.. never again...
Now where did I put that red pill?????
Oh never mind